Exposed Fastener Vs. Standing Seam Metal Roofing Revisited 

This is a FANTASTIC episode! I’m new to this channel and cannot thank you guys enough for selecting a great speaker with good content, good flow, and perfect speed of delivery. I learned so much because this was so well put together 🙌🏼🙌🏼

Very informative video, I plan on building my first house with my dad in cash, in order not to take out a mortgage, and I’ve really have liked the look of standing seam roof. I’m definitely gonna check out the rest of your videos. Thank you

We covered our home (two story with a "shed" addition from the previous owners) with 8" steel purlins, blown or sheet poly foam insulation, and R-panels. Being in my 60's and having done R-panels starting in the 70's, and given how much it cost to put this roof on, even though I did it myself, yes, cost was a big factor. I was pretty clear that a) I didn't have the equipment to do a "real" standing seam roof (and believe me, I investigated it, from manual crimpers to trailer bound forming machines to small electric roll crimpers for the seams, all the way up to "snap-lock" type "standing seam" roofing), b) I didn't have the experience/expertise (or patience) to do the standing seam, and c) I was able to do my roof at my own pace, getting materials from suppliers I knew could fill my needs when needed. Our roof is a category 4 metal roof and earns a nice insurance discount. I need to go up and scrub it down once in a while because of the natural tendency of anything left outside to get dirty and dusty. But, all that said, I think the standing seam with no fasteners showing is a more "classy" looking roof, as mine tends toward the industrial look. But, sometimes we have choices to make, and mine was to "DIY" and save several thousand dollars. For about 7-8 thousand bux, I got my 2700 square foot home covered with metal, as opposed to the $20K I'd have spent for a standing seam installed by "professionals" (not to mention that I was doing it in the midst of a massive roofing effort in this part of town due to two consecutive springtimes of bit hail storms). Excellent video, much appreciated.

I’ve bought exposed fastener roofing from 3 different places and just like you they leave out a very big consideration.The metal might last a long time but the seals on the screws will not.I have never been told CHANGE SCREWS EVERY 10 YEARS. If you put it on change the screws or you will regret it.

Great presentation, I've roofed since 1974 and my experience always leans toward standing seam, I'm doing Inspections/ repairs now so for my old ass it's a kick to see the progress in the science that takes place now. Roofing has come a long way through the years I've been involved. Nice job guys, live long, work well. ☮️

Thanks Thad for all your info..

Bought a house with a metal roof. Screws sticking up every where. Panels were coming loose and had some damaged de king under neath. Creeked and popped all day as it warmed up then again as it cooled down. The noise when it rained hard was deafening. Metal roofs are very popular around here. People say they love to hear the sound of the rain. No thanks. We went to shingles and the house is so much quieter there is no comparison. As to your speech some one commeneted, if you just slow down a little and are not in such a hurry it will be better. You gave a ton of good information in a short time. The listener needs a chance for it to soak in. Cheers!

Thad, you do a great job with these videos. Thanks.

Youre awesome Tad!!! Thanks so much for sharing youre experience, knowledge & skill!!

We installed a galvalume standing seam roof on our 1000 sq ft addition project ourselves, awhile back, prior to an army of DIY RU-vidrs being a thing. Should be a lot easier to find good educational videos now. Saving the installation cost makes the standing seam roof a swinging deal if you're looking to not have to roof again, or do any maintenance to speak of in your lifetime. The cool roof (galvalume, light silver, plus we spent a little extra on a more reflective UV coating) makes a massive difference on insulation efficiency and comfort (we don't have AC, but we insulated over double the code requirements , used a good radiant barrier, and we have a hydronic heating system in the floors below the metal roof, which is great in Feb). It wasn't that hard to install, as we did it when the weather cooperated. In fact, we even invited our architect over to help us, and learn how to do it. He said the experience changed the way he designs structures. Hardest part was renting a flatbed and driving the panels from the inland empire to ventura county. That was 12 years ago, when we were gambling on a future of rising temperatures wreaking havoc with utilities and wildfires getting worse. Yesterday it topped 112F here on our property in the conejo valley, and we are hoping not to have to evacuate this year. Guess we gambled well on those materials back when. The galvalume standing seam roof, the cement-board siding, and the warmboard decking we ran the pex in for our hydronic floors were definately all a bit of a splurge at the time. In retrospect they were all SO worth it! As we look to retrofitting the existing 1970s construction that needs upgrading, we will insulate and radiant barrier at 3 or 4 times code, waterproof with the new self adhesive barriers available at big box stores, use good whole house fans, install another cool roof over it, and -- if we can--ditch what's left of our forced air heater for point of use hydronics, so we aren't heating rooms we aren't using, or breathing all those allergens. Still hoping we might not have to install AC.

Great video. Informative.

Awesome and a great looking guy to look at to learn about a boring subject.

Nice breakdown

Loved this!!!

Great video very helpful I'm a salesman starting out selling steel I've sold different home improvement products this is a new learning curve for me thanks again look forward to watching. Other Video

Thanks….Great info…helped me decide which material to go with..👍

Hi! You mentioned that the metal roof needs to be maintained well for good longevity. Can you do a video on metal roof maintenance? or point to one that was made previously? Searching didn't find any. Thanks!

Thank You Sir.

this guys a great spokesperson.

You are the only person I’ve heard even attempt to pronounce pvdf properly. Even though you are my companies competition, I appreciate the work you are doing

This is good information. Thanks!

Great video. Thank you.

Galvanized exposed lead seal nail last a hundred years ..! If you insulate with celotex underneath it that will take all the heat out of your attic..!,, if you look at the price compared to the years the old fashioned barn roof galvanized expose nail is the cheapest roof of all ! I have seen this roof on a 12/12 pitch with a bullet hole in it and it still don't leak..!

How would you flash around a 12" roof jack on a 5/12 pitch? I haven't found a channel yet that discusses this. Thanks!

Great video

thanks!

Thank you.

What about the longevity of the gaskets under the screws with the exposed fasteners?

It's time for me to replace the shingle roof. I wish to do a metal roof; standing seam. I live in SE NYS. What gauge metal would be best to use??? Can you recommend a company who can do this correctly??? I presume I would want to remove the single layer of shingles OR would it be ok to have a metal roof applied over the shingles???? When I had the current roof applied, 2 layers of singles were removed prior to the roof I have now. What do you think it would cost to apply a metal roof on a standard 26' x 40' ranch-style house??? I do have a semi-detached garage & screened porch (between house & garage) , as well. I am more concerned with having only the house redone due to costs.

I always wondered how these types of roofing coop with condensation?

what does everybody think about Stealthbond adhesive vs screwing in the metal roof?

We live in south FL. Shopping for a colored metal roof. We currently have asphalt shingles. I'm wondering, would a matte black metal roof hold more heat than my asphalt shingles. I understand thr SRI is lower than other lighter metal paints, but we are mostly concerned with whether or not the black metal would really hurt our power bill. I've asked around about this, but no solid answer from metal roofers.

I purchased a house with a hidden fastener type tin roof. It has a three car carport that was extended with the same material. It has long deep running grooves at a very shallow pitch. I don't think that the carport will hold a person on is an I am not sure of the best way to get the leaves off of it. The trees drop lots of dabree and I would have to have to pay someone to bring a cherry picker out here a few times a year.

A matter of pay me now or pay sometime in the future. Standing seam with zink coated steel is probably the last roof you will put on that roof. Please note that cathedrals built 500 years ago still have the original roof. These are cast in place lead.

What about the fasteners on the exposed type. How long do those “rubber” washers last?

Great video. Thanks. One topic you missed though was leaks. Exposed fasteners has substantially greater propensity to leak.

What style of roof is best for solar panel attachment

Can you recommend a quality standing seam installer in the Sarasota/ Bradenton Florida area for your product?

I have an existing car port with exposed fasteners. The panels are the classic ridge , i would like to install a poly-carbonate panel for natural light . The issue is i can seem to find a supplier. The local big box stores don't carry them. The car port is 10 years old an no leaks, any ideas where i can purchase???

Where I live in Florida standing seam hidden fastener cost twice as much as exposed fastener roofs. Another thing all these companies leave out is exposed fastener is superior to standing seem when it comes to high winds like hurricanes. If you are going to lose an exposed fastener panel it means you are losing the plywood under it as well and in that case standing seem would fail as well. According to FEMA and again not talked about on these videos is standing seem snap lock panels are the worst performing metal roofs with the panels coming unsnapped from the change in wind pressures. We just went through Hurricane Ian this past September of 2022 and the exposed faster roofs all survived around me without damage, the same can not be said for standing seem hidden fastener roofs were some of them did fail. One shopping plaza has a standing seem hidden fastener roof and the entire roof is having to be replaced, right now they have the entire roof shrink wrapped.

and most businesses use standing seams also because they can dictate the length,and eliminate having a lap

What does a hip rafter standing seam detail look like

carport roof is shingles and they have blown off several times but were not installed properly .The nails were not nailed in the nail strip and were nailed up to high .I called Max Kendal here to put on a metal roof as they are the metal roof makers here in VA .He wants to put down strapping first and then the metal roof over the shingles .Carport was installed in 2006 with gaf shingles .Should this be standing seam install

Good info and nice presentation, my concern is what region was your info from. Being from Michigan we hear good and bad, but our weather can change as much as 50 degrees overnight. Which paint type and roof type can or will handle such extremes better. Is it better to use longer roofing verse shorter panels. i.e Gamble roof or Dormers and issues that have come up from the type of roof add on,s, such as Sky lights. Anyone know more please post.

How often do you guys install radiant barriers underneath?

KING OF ROOFS!!!

What are your opinions of standing seam clips vs. nail strip installation????…..Do clip installations with stand hurricane force winds better?

Very informative. Thanks for the information!

What are my options if I want to install standing seam with spray foam as I would on an exposed fastener panel?

No comparison one is for people going cheap one is for people spending money for a high end product you get what you pay for

I see a lot of exposed fastener roofs where the screws have backed their way out of the decking over the years. Do standing seam metal roofs have this same problem as well but you just can't see the screws? If no, why not?

I thought the fasteners were supposed to go through the "flats" on an exposed fastener system. Your video showed the screws through the rib.

On an exposed fastener roof I have heard that you have to replace the fasteners every 5 to 10 years.Any truth to that?

The video never got to heart of the issue. The exposed fastener steel may last 60 years but the neoprene on the screws won't, so you have a roof that will leak in best conditions in 15-20 years. For a post frame farm building that may not be a big deal but for a residence or commercial building it will be a disaster. Think about it, steel expands during the coarse of a day and then contracts at night; movement of the roof panels happens over 700 times a year. Screw holes eventually elongate the rubber seal loses it integrity. Chip and Joanna Gaines may get away with exposed fastener roofs in Texas but in Wisconsin exposed fastener roofs on homes and commercial structures are only for the foolish and ill informed. This video does not do justice to the issue.

If you can do the install yourself then you are better off purchasing standing seam. The cut in install price should even out closely to the ribbed and install costs.

Exposed fasteners are terrible. They loosen after time and on my 10/12 roof it's a pain to tighten them. The screws would be best to have into your framing not the sheeting but that's usually possible. I have 2 feet or more of snow on my roof at times and loose screws are a real problem.

25 k roof----where's the gold ? in your pocket?

ive been building pre engineered steel buildings for 20 years.no doubt standing seam is way better.alot slower.more components in a standing seam.not really non with a screw down(what we call it)

You sound like MC Hammer here 4:29

We have an exposed fastener roof on our ice rink and indoor turf fields. About 85,000 square feet. It was a huge mistake. The roof is about 20 years old and about 10 years ago we started to get leaks all over the place. Seems like the roof expanded and contracted over the years and since the screws stayed in one spot it cut holes in the mental roof. We got leaks all over the the place. We are suppose to get a new roof next year. Total shit show. I hear the old owner said he could have laid 3 exposed faster roofs for the price of one standing seam roof. Not sure about that.

Exposed fastner roofs are meant for Barnes Sheds etc not homes take it from me I have a exposed fastner roof it been on about 8 years and all of the rubber washers around the screws have began to dry rot therefore creating leaks.....my parents have had a shingle roof for 27 years now no problems at all just stick with shingles there cheaper and seem to be more reliable from my experience

Here's a quick tip that might help some people get by if their rubber washers fail, before you ever attempt to put a metal roof on if you have a shingle roof DO NOT remove the shingles and put 30 lb felt over the shingles before you put the metal down and then use long screws that will penetrate through your old shingles into the plywood this will impregnate around the screw even when the washer do fail and give you some extra time, contractor told me this once and he said he'd never went back on a job in 35 years of experience he also coated each screw head with neoprene caulking which is going to take a little longer but in the long run you'll benefit from it

Check out enkapsulator.com This application might sway the standing seam lobbyist.

The fact that we re still talking about putting exposed screws through a roof in this day and age is mind boggling. US is way behind on this.

Typical Installer trying to justify the higher price of the standing seam system vs the DIY friendly home depot/lowes exposed fasteners panels...

A) no actual figures, not even ranges, to answer the question of expense. B) This is so obviously shilling for standing seam, that it actually weakens your case. Try again, as if you were not a salesman for a company that makes and sells standing seam.

Background music junked another video 👎🏻💩

Shit. He just talked the whole video. No help at all

Good video, but I had trouble understanding you. Don't "slur" your words. You know, potatoes in your mouth? Take a class in public speaking ... even a lesson from a voice teacher. Good Luck.

Steel roofing sucks

What is the "maintanance" of the exsposed fastener you mentioned? Thanks.