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Exposing Ashes of Creation with Scam Expert SaltEMike

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Ashes of Creation is an Immersive huge open world Sandpark MMORPG that is redefining the gaming landscape. Created for fans of PVP, PVE, and Roleplay, this ever-changing world promises the ultimate MMO experience. This game, which began development in 2016 and upgraded to Unreal Engine 5 in 2021, is now on the cusp of revolutionizing the MMORPG genre. Intrepid Studios are working towards delivering these highly requested features to an old school playerbase waiting for that MMORPG to bring them back to the golden age of the early 2000s:9 different playable races with both male and female options.A massive 1200 square kilometer world size at launch with 85 Nodes.A fully open world game with no loading screens, offering complete freedom to explore.A rich array of features including Dungeons, Raids, World Bosses, Open World PVP, Caravan PVP, castle sieges, node sieges, arenas, duels, guild wars, and more.A vibrant player-driven economy, crafting and artisan system, political system, citizenship, player run shops, taverns with parlor games, and a unique character customization system.Ashes of Creation offers an experience like no other, combining the best elements of both sandbox and theme park MMOs. This is a game built by an MMO fan for MMO fans, fully funded and committed to a zero pay-to-win model.

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@Guidozam Месяц назад

Never thought I would see the Star Citizen, and Ashes Community coming together to cope!

@C.hrisis Месяц назад

I thought most people had 2 tanks of copium, 1 for each game

@vilestine Месяц назад

when you think about it, they fit together so well. the games are so vastly different that nobody is arguing which one is better and focuses on the development and copium

@StepCrow Месяц назад

@@C.hrisis Yup, this is me.

@jebidyah Месяц назад

Let's see a crossover, where you can fly to the system where AoC exists, land a starship in the riverlands...snatch up a caravan in your C2

@vorpalrobot Месяц назад

@@jebidyahjust added 14 years to both games

@archaic78 Месяц назад

A Star Cit player would be a "scam expert" lol

@HateKillDestroy87 Месяц назад

based take i know 😂😂

@Drunkninja101 Месяц назад

Is this an AA meeting?

@dodoz44 Месяц назад

CA*

@SaltEMike Месяц назад

Yes

@Thunk787 Месяц назад

Nah. People in AA can admit they have a problem.

@ratedxvn Месяц назад

@@Thunk787 I mean if you watched the video they did admit they had a problem with their addiction to their individual games and that there are people in their communities that are worse than them....Also i'm sure there are people in AA meetings that don't ever admit to their problem...

@beavschannel5217 Месяц назад

Alphas Anonymous

@zaccevans995 Месяц назад

I thought the last 4 showcases were good 🤷‍♂️

@AuxxiliaryATC Месяц назад

Not sure why narc and others go “how are they going to be able to host all these players, how is it that they won’t have lag, how does it all work?” . We get a server mesh technical stream explaining what they have been working on for years, and people say “I don’t fucking care mate” …wtf? You either do or don’t, I’m not sure why the videos have turned into complaining about everything all the time. Doomium is fine sometimes but Jesus Christ.

@chonkiboii 17 дней назад

@@AuxxiliaryATCexactly.

@LuminairPrime Месяц назад

This SaltE guy seems like a major COPIUM inhaler, I bet he'll get along well with Narc

@idn Месяц назад

He's actually one of the more critical Star Citizen streamers -- but still he makes his living from a game that is not yet finished and might not reach v1.0 until 2026, which would mean 10 years of development in earnest.

@Insane-Saint Месяц назад

@@idn well noone tryed this mmo scale ever before in that way of cause it takes long^^ im happy this actually happend, cause no normale dev studio would ever try something ambitious like Sc or AoC

@PhurPher Месяц назад

Narc, they're so disorganized because they're an indie studio. If you got to lay your eyes on the development pipeline of a studio operating at that kind of capacity it would melt your noggin. Remember Steven talking about sharing excel spreadsheets and talking about them every day, all that's corpo shit. There is such a mind boggling amount of planning involved in a game this big. Time, money, available devs, this dev can do that, this one can do this, but also that, this project is going to take 2 months, but actually takes 3 which doesn't allow this dev to continue on with his next project so we're swapping him over here which means we have to swap this guy over here. It's a fucking shit show and no studio gets it 100%, it's still being figured out and it's highly dynamic so there will always be problems. It nuts dude

@TheGood_Bro Месяц назад

It's almost like there's an amount of work that's done when your creating anything no shit bro. And that's not the point no one cares because we all know it takes some kind of work but when your hiding behind the "oh but it's so much work" ya no shit don't make a game if your gonna complain about the work that goes into making the game. That just sounds beyond stupid.

@Xalantor 22 дня назад

The first 3-5 years of development of SC where they were around AoC's size right now basically was scrapped because they did a terrible job and had to fix everything about their work flow. AoC is already doing better than SC at the same point.

@ikdeikke 13 дней назад

@droog_plays Месяц назад

Am I alone in actually enjoying the technical and game design dev updates? Also, we have been getting MOSTLY gameplay updates the past few months (which were bangers), the recent server meshing one was the only one that was a powerpoint again...

@vrdynasty3896 Месяц назад

Yeah I dont think its that bad either? The weakest showcase was probably the lighting update and even then, the environment, npcs and biome was absolutely beautiful

@Turgal_ Месяц назад

AOC should just stop posting dev update as From What narc and his " Scam expert" are saying Adding leaves in the game is just numbers and they don't do anything sitting behind there chair , Narc is not worth beeing a CC for this game . as for His "scam expert" his game got 800 milj pumped in and 15 years later not even a Date on a beta release ....

@OGParzoval Месяц назад

Streamers have a cycle. They usually hype up, followed by crusing on the normal content, but then see flagging numbers so they go straight into a vicious cycle before something happens in the game and they restart the cycle over.

@MrSpetzz Месяц назад

I'm really drawn to tech showcases in games, almost as much as gameplay showcases. Coming from an IT background, I appreciate how these events highlight the technical prowess behind the games we love. It's like getting a backstage pass to see the craftsmanship that goes into creating deeply engaging gaming experiences

@TheJQuon Месяц назад

I think the server meshing updates are extremely important (I think @SaltEMike actually thinks so as well)... I'm pretty sure the game developer videos he was actually talking about were the one SC has been doing lately about showing how the concept art so they had an hour and a half long video where they drew a 3d art rendition of a guy on a space bike with a dog driving the bike. It was painful.

@MrKevlarkent Месяц назад

So many of the things narc says in this video is completely made up. Like saying they haven't started on node progression past the village stage. It might be true, but he has 0 idea if it is or not. Really disappointing

@dimitreus99 Месяц назад

"Ashes is in such a dip right now" Lmao, what?

@Grux_ASG Месяц назад

*inhales copium* We are in a golden age! I love playing the game!

@dimitreus99 Месяц назад

@Grux_ASG Yeah that's totally what I said lol. It's almost like you spergs, Narc included, can't just casually appreciate the development of a game without hinging their mental sanity on its success. My point was that it's such a weird take to say "Ashes is in such a dip right now" when most people would probably recognize the strides they've made over the years. I think ret ards like Narc and his audience have a porn-addled mentality where they NEED to see everything immediately in full frontal glory otherwise they click next. That and Narc is down bad for growth so he's probably controversy farming lol.

@Arthur-1337 Месяц назад

Post Alpha-2 Anxiety

@Carpetotron Месяц назад

SaltEMike is not a scam expert, he is a copium connoisseur

@VoiceULove Месяц назад

I don't know what doesn't make sense. It was clearly stated many many moons ago that Alpha 2 would be a permanent test server ( this is something a lot of games have which they use to test new updates before applying them to a live server ). So, if you're confused as to why the beta servers will be separate from the A2 PTS, than I'm not sure what to tell you. Not that it matters since the beta phases wont be that long anyways

@StepCrow Месяц назад

With game development in mind, I wouldn’t worry if there’s only one biome. Biomes are a big art investment, and not as much a game dev investment. It makes more sense to focus on getting mechanics working with one biome to function as a toy box.

@StepCrow Месяц назад

Might just be copium, but this is how every game dev company I’ve worked for has operated.

@onyx4469 Месяц назад

I don't understand why they think the alpha 1 map was scrapped? like wtf is the thought process that would make no fking sense to scrap a yr worth of work

@StepCrow Месяц назад

@@onyx4469 I’m not sure. On one hand, I’ve seen game companies throw away tons of work for arbitrary reasons. On the other hand, yes it would be really stupid to just throw away all that work.

@actually5004 Месяц назад

@@StepCrow A "sandbox" like that won't work past a certain point with a game like ashes because how the nodes evolve over time is a core mechanic. A car company can't test aerodynamics until the body work is on the car.

@BoundlessBoredom Месяц назад

Narc seems to want to treat Alpha 2 like a launch, but its not. It does not matter what content is or isnt in the Alpha, because 90% of their launch playerbase isnt following the development. As long as the game is good at launch, they will be fine.

@Shoelid Месяц назад

It sounds like they're reopening A2 keys though. and if they keep them open, and continually add content to the game... we're basically going into a typical early access steam MMO launch. Full launch is still important, but you're downplaying the importance of A2 launch.

@LurnWell Месяц назад

It's been 8 years....Can't blame him

@Heliox98YT Месяц назад

Narc is honestly such a Dunning-Kruger effect stereotype....

@TheToledoTrumpton Месяц назад

I do think that AoC won't be a good game for streamers and content creators, which may be a greater concern to them. The whole structure of the game, is going to make it far more fun to participate in, than to watch. And as you rightly say, they need to be a lot smarter to comment on a game this complex. I have 25 years in banking IT, and have been playing and creating board games and computer games all my life, since I bought a commodore64 in 1979, so I have a pretty good idea of games, software development, computer infrastructure and economics. Most of what they are saying is complete bollocks.

@MrMalkraz Месяц назад

@@TheToledoTrumpton whole lot of words to say absolutely nothing of substance

@OmniDan26 Месяц назад

@@MrMalkraz true sister. Speak your truth!

@joshuawyatt4737 Месяц назад

What I love about the dunning Kruger effect is that most people who quote it don't actually understand it, making it a perfect example of the Dunning Kruger effect.

@TheToledoTrumpton Месяц назад

@@MrMalkraz Well, I really don't have to dance for you, but specifically: 1. Pre-alpha 2 width of development does not contribute to progress. So how many biomes have been completed for the Alpha 2 is not relevant. 2. If they are at the point where they are designing infrastructure and performance they are pretty much ready for Alpha 2. You don't design hardware until you know what the requirements of the software are. 3. The economy in AoC is going to be nothing like New World, because as a node levels up, lower level mats can be made scarce or be used for different purposes. For example the copper used for bronze weapons at node level 1, can be made scarcer and can be used to put on ships to make them faster and cheaper to maintain, at node level 4. Either way you have far more control over the economy than you would have in a static world. And about 30 other things I could point out.

@Ponzini77 Месяц назад

6 years of alpha 2 is an absolutely WILD take.

@lucketvids Месяц назад

WoW took 5 years to develop. This game switched engines and survived covid.. so give them a couple extra years to bake.

@iriya3227 Месяц назад

@@lucketvids lol in their original timeline in 2017 they mentioned game was out by 2019!! All we got was a battle royale that was half-baked...

@tygoro Месяц назад

@@lucketvids dont forget wow launched in 2005, comparatively ashes alpha standards are equivalent to retail wow polishing

@DxBlack Месяц назад

Ssssshhhhhh...let the haters chew rocks. These games are nearly 10 years in dev, but at least they aren't Hytale, which is also nearly as old in dev but shouldn't have been because it's a frickin block game and hasn't reinvented the wheel.

@biadhoce Месяц назад

@@iriya3227 But why be mad about that? The scope changed, the systems they have showcased all look better than what we all imagined.

@666evo666 Месяц назад

1 biome = proof of concept, easy to expand on (change textures and shaders, diff weather). Not every one is going to care about node stuff, casuals especially dont care about that nonsense they just want to lvl up and do quests. UI does not need polished in an alpha its literally place holder, in fact a lot of assets are considered place holders in an alpha game state. Star Citizen is known as being vapourware because they sell ships at silly prices for a game that is just a shell, that is not even relatable to AoC. I have been taking part in alphas and betas for 20 years and everything AoC are doing is considered more or less normal other than the fact a shareholder or a publisher is not forcing them to launch earlier than the intended development road plan.

@arnaudkaho7137 Месяц назад

Seems like you never ever made a game, not even starting. When you hold 150 people on your company, you don't put them on "temporary work", everything has to be designed and prototyped before the actual production start. Now that stupid word "Alpha" in reality means exactly = "Post tech demo playable version". Basically once all basic systems are coded, put together and in case of mmo, AFTER server/client network testing. So you should have ~30% of the game by that time, all things considered. 1 biome and what ? making another level is not about changing textures and shaders lol, it's a new level prototyping, new assets, new sounds, new quests and text content, optimization, server optimization, sync rework... etc etc, and guess what, it should be planned from the beginning. UI should be already designed and prototyped before starting production (so think 1 or 2 years BEFORE even hiring programmers). It's not a joke to design cross-platform UIs. Know one thing, if a video game company can attract investors up to millions of dollars, that mean they have all the design already done. It's very simple, no design doc ? no investors.

@pipz420 Месяц назад

@@arnaudkaho7137would love to learn more lol

@VerraNewsNetwork Месяц назад

cope

@666evo666 Месяц назад

@@VerraNewsNetwork NPC

@musiclayer5192 Месяц назад

One thing is for sure we are weeks from finding out bois.

@g.m.fernandes3579 Месяц назад

As someone who really likes when devs talk about game dev stuff on their dev streams... I thought that the recent server meshing video was really cool. They were talking and introducing a technology that's probably going to be foundational of future mmos. And, as someone who has been following the dev journey of some games for almost a decade at this point (exanima, zomboid...), sometimes the devs will realize that they need some major piece of tech that it's not actually developed yet, and everything they want to do is heavily dependent on it, so they have to stop everything and focus on it. And it's not like they didn't know such tech was going to be needed, it's just that they weren't at the point where they had to develop it. And that's what they had to show for themselves this time: a massive update on a background tech that's probably going to be the foundation of their whole game going forward. It's not the most exciting stuff for the casual gamer, but, the casual gamer is also unlikely to watch the 2 hours dev stream anyway. So they're making that showcase for the most avid and interested viewers.

@lfk113 Месяц назад

holy shit I dont believe I actually watch the whole video at once I must be high as fuck on copium good lord

@HiYurd Месяц назад

My guess is the reason that Beta servers is different than Alpha servers because then everyone will have to go through the beginning content again on the Beta servers (i.e. fresh start).

@chaoko954 Месяц назад

That is correct. I believe the graph that narc is referring to in his description is actually a graph of character progression and not actually related to the servers at all.

@arnaudkaho7137 Месяц назад

Gamedev here, big inovating projects in video games industry are no different than any startup. It has a major chance of failure, especially when we talk about network games like mmo. Is it a scam ? No, people work on the game everyday. Will they finish the game ? It depends on talent, design and financials. No devs in the world will work on a project "for passion", keep that for kids, or indies on their first game. You dislike those facts ? Then you have the wrong hobby.

@BlackJustice2637 Месяц назад

2 of the best games released recently, Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring absolutely had passion as a driving force. It's part of why they turned out so well. Larian Studios even stopped working on the DLC for the game because they didn't have passion for what they were doing and didn't feel that it would meet their standards. Big innovative projects are risky, but to say that passion is a deciding factor reserved for children and naive indies is simply untrue

@Billy-bc8pk Месяц назад

@@BlackJustice2637 Baldur's Gate 3 still was rushed out without its proper ending. So no, passion was not the deciding factor, finances were. They needed post-launch update to add the intended missing pieces of the third act.

@BlackJustice2637 Месяц назад

@Billy-bc8pk A deciding factor. Not the deciding factor. From a company that famously gives free upgrades to the definitive edition of the game to those who bought it earlier. Where in my comment did I say that money was irrelevant?

@TheSandman. Месяц назад

Jesus your click bait is getting worse and worse. no way I am listening to some self proclaimed "Scam" expert waffle on for more than an hour

@vorpalrobot Месяц назад

Nuanced opinions also get me angry

@ccloudleaf Месяц назад

Bye

@Isid0nis Месяц назад

you guys didn't take the joke, eh? classic yt commenters lmao

@yous2244 Месяц назад

You clearly haven't watched the video. Only saw the title and got offended because of how small minded you are😂

@Roooooobi Месяц назад

made you click on the video, didnt it? >:)

@Mdynan Месяц назад

The server meshing video was the most hype video for Ashes. The comments about how you don't care are about the fact that they are achieving S Tier server tick rates, and revolutionized the server mechanics is fucking insane. You two are an example of why you don't cast your pearls before swine.

@kellywilson137 Месяц назад

They just want to see the game be fun. If the game sucks but the server tech is from the future, what good is that server tech? "Show me the Game being fun" Thats literally all most people want from AOC.

@TheXephTV Месяц назад

I agree with this 100%, IF they can truly pull it off in an actual test. The theory is only great if the practice follow along.

@Mdynan Месяц назад

@@kellywilson137 Never throw the baby out with the bath water. If you struck gold while searching for silver and copper, before you knew what gold was, what would you do?

@JuanTorres-xd4by Месяц назад

I was considering subscribing, but this sort of content, from click baiting to hypothetical negative conversations really leave a sour taste, sorry narc, good luck to you and your community.

@Douchebagus 18 часов назад

Yep, I unsubscribed after seeing videos completely conflicting in tone and content back to back, ie "Ashes has a great future ahead" followed by "Ashes is dying!" I saw this video pop up in recommended and man, this guy is even worse now.

@encure Месяц назад

35:00 i thought they said more than once that they will do wipes in alpha alot. maybe i misremembered. great video as always

@vrdynasty3896 Месяц назад

I also remember that.

@alfanan123 Месяц назад

They did, however. They also said that they would "prefer" to wipe as little as possible. But they WILL happen. That is what remember.

@liarwithagun 18 дней назад

The goal of devs is to not have to wipe, but inevitably wipes will be necessary but there is no such thing as a perfectly designed game with no flaws or mistakes.

@PhurPher Месяц назад

Holy shit dude, that comment about the "subconscious P2W" has got to be the most 5headed galaxy brain based fucking take I've ever heard. I love it.

@j.d.4697 Месяц назад

Judging by your comment you got an IQ of 50, so...

@overcast80 Месяц назад

Please have Mike on again. What a great conversation!

@everlonggaming1966 Месяц назад

Second monitor content huh? :Josh Strife Hayes: has entered the chat

@CALLE92JOHANSSON Месяц назад

Oh boy it's my two favorite content creators making videos about my two favorite games that literally does not exist. I really have been dreaming about the day you two talk it out about these games and you know the algorithm works when this video is at the top of my feed.

@oybeutu Месяц назад

Maybe they don't want to reveal too many biomes in detail?

@pawneyao6079 Месяц назад

My expectation for Alpha 2 is: "We will show you the mechanicsi, but we won't show you everything because we want everyone on the same playing field upon release."

@RS-ek9dr Месяц назад

"PvP mmos die" isn't true, albion servers are lively since 2017. It is just that you need really good systems for it to not go wrong

@jjaramillo5780 Месяц назад

that game is dead af...

@sangheilizealot5787 Месяц назад

@@jjaramillo5780 absolutely not

@blockedbox6024 Месяц назад

As long as there are hardcore whales willing to fund the game monthly, perhaps it will last longer after launch. We will see.

@sangheilizealot5787 Месяц назад

@@jjaramillo5780 no

@OmniDan26 Месяц назад

Albion isn't an explicitly pvp mmo no matter how hard the fanbase copes. It's pvevp. Try again, chud.

@Tcara1 Месяц назад

Narc you need to stop ... I do actualy think you are hurting your content. When you look at "the space tomato" to learn about server meshing, you did realise that your content has a path to grown up. But you still actualy farming the same sh*t again and again, clickbait after clickbait When there is much much more quality subject to talk about AoC. Now it's been 6 videos, you decide for some random reason to "farm" view by clashing 2 community. This is not what I want from you. You have the right to do some much more quality driven content and deep dive into lore, classes, system, gameplay, ect ... You don't need to be hard stuck as the "copium lord", juste try new things more complexe, more visualy elaborated, ... For exemple, even if the subject of this video is not that great on my opinion, I would have watch a "resume" of your discution with SaltEMike where you go over your thinking when chating with him, with more elaborat thought. You need to realise that you are in competition with other video avaible on the platform, It only take 1 click to find something else to watch and I don't think you are in a good enough position for you name to be able to retaine people from switching, you are not asmongold...

@LurnWell Месяц назад

Narc helped me discover AOC..And if your idea of content means agreeing on everything, then perhaps the coverage overall is flawed.

@Xalantor 22 дня назад

Space tomato makes videos with wonderful production value and they're fun to watch, but he is one of the biggest copium inhalers i've ever seen. He makes baseless speculations and guesses that all skew in a wildly unsupported positive direction that borders on delusion. "This studio they've acquired will save Star Citizen" to paraphrase one of his latest videos. I think Narc has a lot to say about MMOs in general and I think him playing different ones and making comparisons would be great to watch.

@krashsx Месяц назад

Is it just me or does he seem extremely agro in this more than usual?

@ZyvhurStudios Месяц назад

3hrs? this video is only an hour and a half! scam! scamed again

@PhurPher Месяц назад

Lmfao, why you gotta do Fantmx like that bruh He was just coped out of his wazoo

@Gamerznation704 Месяц назад

Na I'm good, shoulda kept this one in the drafts. The desert comparison is....a bit much. Just because you can do it doesn't make the argument valid.

@-Bleriot- Месяц назад

Really liked the "real context" of situations from various topics

@jebidyah Месяц назад

I think this speculation that just because they haven't showed it means it doesn't exist is false. This may be true for SC who shows things they dont even have yet, I think Steven and AoC often keep things close to the chest, like server meshing coming out of nowhere, without hyping it for years before even having a test of it. I think A2 will have plenty of surprises for players...

@rjswas Месяц назад

Well they have said a couple of times now that we have only seen something like 10 or 20% of what has actually been done, as they don't want to give too much away, but it seems people went deaf when that was said.

@TheJQuon Месяц назад

Hahahaa @SaltEMike "I was in Germany at the time, I was one of the dumb as$es in the crowd yelling and screaming about how cool this is, not knowing that this was going to ruin my f@cking life". That sh!t cracked me up 😂

@thebrokenman6860 Месяц назад

The title of this video has me in stitches! You know, the same material keeping SC patches together.

@Vioblight Месяц назад

So cool seeing you both talk about our copium games. NGL, gameplay is king! But… that tree cutting demo was sick af 😅

@SoTalkAboutIt Месяц назад

So, they recently announced they were selling alpha 2 keys on their own. I wouldn't have bought the pack earlier if I had ever known the key would be sold on its own. Why did they do this if not for fomo? Studios monitizing fomo does not leave me feeling good about the future of the game. Ashes, this was a decision that feels deceptive. Not a good look.

@JonBondgsr Месяц назад

It is easy to look back and say I wouldn't have done a lot of stuff had I known future events. They didn't even know they were going to have the space to allow more players into Alpha 2.

@noneofyourbusiness7651 Месяц назад

They didn't know if their server tech would be developed enough to host more testers. That literally just happened.

@SoTalkAboutIt Месяц назад

@@noneofyourbusiness7651 Yeah, that did literally just happen. The result is still that I spent more than I would have otherwise. Do I understand it? Absolutely. It still severely affects what my tolerance will be for any other hiccups in the games development. Allow me trade my pack for a regular key while being refunded the difference or I will always have something to hold against the dev team. The only thing that makes up for this is the game being significantly above expectations or providing some sort of trade in or refund.

@noneofyourbusiness7651 Месяц назад

@Loopin360 Ya, I disagree. You knew the risks about following development for a game that doesn't exist. Nothing is guaranteed. You don't really get to be a victim here. It's all your decision. Maybe the game never launches. We won't know until it does. You would be happier if you change your attitude and take responsibility for your actions and don't blame others for your emotional state.

@SoTalkAboutIt Месяц назад

@@noneofyourbusiness7651 it’s been some time since I’ve actually been interested in playing MMOs at all. I’ve followed this game for a year or so but I’ll likely lose interest by the time it launches. I would like the swap to the cheaper version but in truth I likely won’t be playing it at all at this point. There is nothing they can do to get me back on board. I suppose this individual transaction isn’t the thing I’m really annoyed by. You can’t tell me that offering that key trade in wouldn’t be a friendly move by the devs though. I wouldn’t say im trying to be a victim. I just want out and if they’re willing I’d happily take some of that money back.

@BrodeOne Месяц назад

After you see the left camera few pixels smaller you cant unsean it, sorry :-X

@TheFatalintention Месяц назад

Cant believe that 2 of my favorite content creators under rated by their faith in games made of copium are together. love it

@soulhunter1596 Месяц назад

This interview sounds like a Therapie session for Narc

@silvernode Месяц назад

Can you do these regularly every time new patches come out for these games? We need these conversations to exist as much as possible, not just because it's really fun/intereating to listen to but also because it helps keep all of us copium addicts grounded. See if Saltemike would be down for that. I see these epiaodes as like a "state of the game" type of thing.

@KCRC-SLC Месяц назад

Aye mate, I like this kind of longer form content, PERFECT 2nd monitor vibe!

@joshsmith5626 Месяц назад

Everyone bitching about them playing devils advocate and questioning some of the QUESTIONABLE things theyre doing or showing or NOT showing, yall are the reason us gamers have been getting shitty games. We need to hold all of our favorite game developers accountable at all times. Were not supposed to just suck them off and take everything they say as the truth. If you want the game to be as good as you claim you want it to be, hold the devs accountable.

@CHIM3RA. Месяц назад

White knights gone white knight 🤦‍♂

@zombyjew Месяц назад

The most real quote ever, "this is like a therapy session for you... I've been there bro." A fundamentally workable thing is not really something I want to see. I'm happily satisfied with the chicken dance and the night sky. These monthly updates are, for me, just something I can watch that keeps me interested so I don't forget intrepid exists. I don't care that they have gone quiet, please do, go focus on the game, stop talking to me, but when you come back to talk, and you have something to talk about, I'll be here ready.

@bookmark1479 Месяц назад

Welcome to the copium addiction meeting

@caintindal1671 Месяц назад

The last thing I will say if all three devs Ashes of Creation, the New Dune game and Star Citizen Server meshing teams dont come together and share what they have learned well that will be a big mistake as they could make it better than each one team can.

@Xalantor 22 дня назад

Humanity would be much further developed if people freely shared inventions. Alas competition is a bitch and everyone has rent to pay and a family to feed. I think we are very lucky to not be born in earlier times already. Our society more comfortable and safer than ever in history.

@kellywilson137 Месяц назад

I love this content, Huffing copium together over games that literally don't exist.

@Eggyse1 Месяц назад

I remember the tree!! - Thank you SaltEMike, Narc go back to making good videos!

@mrcreed6874 Месяц назад

All the wild speculations while 3 months of waiting are all it takes to find out whether this project is ready for the graveyard, joining the corpo freak show or still on its way to being a good game.

@mucool328 Месяц назад

More than Wild Speculations, this was a Coping video where both of them were healing by sharing their concerns about each other's game.

@xeno9754 Месяц назад

while i can understand the logic of it taking so long, i think steven said that they focused on building systems that let them implement all the stuff so far. Like the server meshing. I dont think they hand craft every node. They build a system that builds nodes for them. so i think A2 will last maybe 1 -1,5 years. Beta another 0,5 year. Then launch. On the playerbase per server i think 5k will be their goal. If 10k players per server is the goal, then 5k for A2 to test 1 continent would be logical. No word if Castles will be in early A2. We did see them in showcases.

@Lagrangeify Месяц назад

For me the biggest thing WoW had going for it at launch was that the world felt truly massive, fully fleshed out, teeming with life and interesting things to discover. It wasn't until Cataclysm that I felt I'd had my fill of Azeroth. If this game doesn't launch with a similarly fully realized world I agree with Narc, its dead on arrival.

@bobbins5037 9 дней назад

Large PvP guilds /collectives will always kill a pvp MMO, I've never seen it NOT happen.

@michaelol Месяц назад

Oh I dont like the title of this video, lets get into it then.

@WarpedSpace Месяц назад

The Collab I didn't know I needed to watch ! 👌

@chucknorris5476 Месяц назад

I’ll never play another non-subscription based mmo. It always ends in a cash shop.

@alejandronunez7650 Месяц назад

makes no sense but oke, you do you.. nobody cares

@ratedxvn Месяц назад

Well World of Warcraft took a dump on this take when Wotlk released. Try again!

@chucknorris5476 Месяц назад

@@ratedxvn yea that’s what made me finally quit lmao. Was #1 Ret NA for awhile and #1 world a handful of times on WCL the past few years (schizo stuff) and even I couldn’t stomach such a loss of ethics anymore. Oh well I’m thankful for the friendships I had!

@zog382 Месяц назад

I feel like I lost braincells trying to listen to this brain trust. I keep wondering when their game came out. 🤷

@Xcyper33 Месяц назад

Narc is basically SaltEMike in a few years.

@Nukedm Месяц назад

Really like the longer videos. Good job dude!

@PhurPher Месяц назад

Where's the other 1 hour and 32 minutes Narc? Huh Narc? Where is the other 1 hour and 32 minutes??

@Narc 21 день назад

it was deleted because I spent 9 hours removing every single breath between our words to save you time :) you're welcome.

@TruthIsKey369 Месяц назад

Ashes of creation is way easier to code when it comes to a server meshing solution, since it is only on a 2D plane with borders, and if they succeed it will become a REAL MMO too. Starcitizen is totally another beast where the game is seamless without borders and in true 4D space. What many people here doesn't seem to know is how Nova Quark and their Dual Universe indeed has working server meshing on the Unigine 2 engine, but sadly the developers fudged their project and it's at a standstill. They also have the most promising tech when it comes to voxels. I hope CIG buys out Nova Quark and implement their voxel tech in their Starcitizen v2 in the future.

@Panikaze Месяц назад

I'm really enjoying your arc. From the very start, defending the scam, inhaling copium, and now having doubts. Can't wait when in 2-3 years you make the final AoC video saying you were all scammed. xD

@kfarbarata 21 день назад

My only concern with ashes were in the terms of big fights videos. A lot of them I noticed 'bots' or accounts with macros. The one where they show the habilities from the mayors and some nodewar they kinda left an account show that. It was a cleric spammim the same skill, also got stucked into a tree trying to get target to an enemy who was also a bot/macro character (that time a renger) trying to get the target of the cleric. That kinda worried me and hearing that they ''have enough ppl to test'' 13:00 does not consolidate with what I saw in the game. Well. I just hope they do it in their onw pace and dont try to overachieve. nowadays, if they simple make a good mmo they will have years to implement other things as time goes by.

@onthelow415 Месяц назад

Point of clarification: Ragnarok Online when it debuted was BETA for several years. There were two international BETA servers. All while having an ongoing ALPHA test server that would be wiped more frequently, until the final game eventually shipped. It's not a new concept, we've seen this before. Will add that the BETA serves eventually turned into the official serves maintaining much of players progress & content minus a few pre-established things that was no shock to the community. I think people need to stop bringing their past trauma from other games over to new communities. It actually ends up being more toxic than anything.

@chonkiboii 17 дней назад

10 min in, already lost you. Detailed overview of systems - like server meshing - are extremely interesting and useful to see.

@mintberry6014 Месяц назад

Oh’ly sh*t! I never thought that id see my favorite Ashes creator and my favorite SC creator in the same video….. this is awesome!

@TheJQuon Месяц назад

Hahaha 🤣 the "chicken dance" part of your guys convo cracked me the f up. Haha "am i a clown" lol. Joe Pesci in "Goodfellas" instantly popped into my head "am i a clown? Do i ammuse you??" f@cken chicken dance lol. I saw it on a video and was like wtf

@ronniebarrio Месяц назад

@9:10 secs Narc is about to blow a jugular haha

@FrissYT Месяц назад

Star citizens "Events" are like a car show room that opens up in game with their ships on display. You're then "Allowed" to buy their "limited" ships for "limited time only" (these events happen all the time)..... (major FOMO) Haven't seen anything like that from ashes. .....yet.

@phil5592 12 дней назад

threw on RU-vid, logged into my game, instantly exposed me for second monitor watching...... get out of my head Narc!!

@gamingtemplar9893 Месяц назад

"you can make this in 15 min UE5" no, you can't, not for a real game and not for something that looks good anyway. This happens when you talk about things you don't understand, like 3D or game development. Any decent environment artist/game dev will tell you this. What you made doesn't look good and won't work in a real game, sorry.

@infinitely-random Месяц назад

Narc proved this by recreating an area in Ashes with UE5, which needed to be toned down to become a trailer (still in progress).

@nixxie9362 Месяц назад

It will be interesting to see how environmentally ravaged the nodes in the river lands will be if they overload them. The consequences of over farming will be interesting to see if they are implemented on launch

@blackhorde22 Месяц назад

Alpha Testing is used for experimental debugging and Beta Test is the almost stable edition of Alpha Test.

@DejvidR6 Месяц назад

damn narc is kinda right if u look it that way game is in development for 3 only years.. since they upgraded to unreal 5.. they had to do everything again only ideas stayed.. but i still think A2 wont be for 6 years or even close.. biomes and filling those biomes is least of an problem systems like this server meshing is what takes the most time and core gameplay systems..im guessing 2027 or early 2028 is when game gets fully released naval content is what could also take some time

@TruthIsKey369 Месяц назад

I hope CIG never finish inserting things into Starcitizen when it goes 1.0

@beanboi789 Месяц назад

Who tf cares about biomes lmao?

@FearHype Месяц назад

Really loved this collab, best Narc has ever done! Hope to see more SC AoC content in the future! Thanks @SaltEMike!

@chrishutchins9384 Месяц назад

I agree about little grey npcs running around do things is better than how things look. But! Most people care how things look.

@Ecksplisit Месяц назад

Love Mike. He does amazing SC content. This is a collab I never would have expected in my entire life. Good shit narc.

@jebidyah Месяц назад

figuring out population density is literally the biggest challenge MMOs have. Make it good when its crowded and not so crowded....it needs to feel good during peak hours and off peak hours.....or 6 months after launch and half of the pop is no longer logging in. If they solve this problem, everything else is easy. Having a world that adjusts and grows organically with nodes should definitely help, meaning if certain areas lose pop or become abandoned, maybe the world swallows them back up and it organically evolves, rather than just leaving ghost towns behind.

@torrey3536 Месяц назад

Ultimate is peak nostalgia

@robertwaremusic Месяц назад

No fucking way, two of my favorite youtubers for two of my favorite copium wellsprings. Big ups for doing this guys

@RobnGG Месяц назад

Imagine saying the largest leap forward in MMO technology in the last 20 years is less interesting than a gameplay showcase

@qowkerf Месяц назад

What is this, copeaholics anonymous?

@Samary- 29 дней назад

Même pas besoin de comprendre ce qu'ils disent pour comprendre qu'ils ne métrisent pas leur sujet, c'est assez magique. Savoir convaincre c'est savoir présenter.

@velshu 2 дня назад

The monetization of this game is clear to you and your audience. Maybe instead of arguing against it and making it look like a victim position, you could give alternative options on how it could be made?

@moontsuki9791 17 дней назад

If there is a massive exploit after official release that totally fucks the game up, I am happy with game reboot. Delete all and start from 0. Everyone gets back their itemshop currency and that's it

@stundardutch5320 Месяц назад

Terrible Salty guy hope to never see him again

@jWeslo Месяц назад

who asked you

@stundardutch5320 Месяц назад

@@jWeslo no need to ask buddy. Its a comment section.

@Strangingness 17 дней назад

I believe there should be bot NPCs in Ashes of creation, for PVP. Like in Gears of War. if You don’t have enough players to match a larger Guild or group You have these bots in to fill in for players.

@tionblack 16 дней назад

its concerning what they are saying we still dont have any real solid proof,considering AOC is latest hope after shameless CAMEELOT UNCHAINED SCAM it would be a shame if this game becomes new star citizen that never ends to one day fail. Also if this game also turns into MEGA GUILDx5-6 type of game and turns into new world which is ssuper shallow it will be a shame. I hope system wont let big guilds abuse rvr mechanics by first competing with other guilds then making agreements for theeir benefits etc.

@davidsumpter4933 Месяц назад

I envision 4 races at the start of Alpha 2. These are the two human races (riverlands/desert) and two dwarf races (tropics/mountains). The other 4 races start on the eastern continent and will be introduced later.

@TheToledoTrumpton Месяц назад

It is only data. There is no point in creating too much data before they have tested the framework it hangs on, that will slow them down if there are bugs in the engine. You guys keep on complaining that they are slow, but as soon as they try to get to Alpha2 faster, you complain. Any more than 3 of anything is a time risk, and often you can get by with 2. Test it and then there is a lot of fast copy/paste/inheritance, because you know it will work.

@outforbeer Месяц назад

Storytelling and content must exist to set the tone. Warhammer is like a sandbox game but the storyline and lore set the tone to the miniature game

@gamingtemplar9893 Месяц назад

MMORPGs are RPG games (strategic, tactical) and about ROLES in a epic medieval fantasy world (PVE games), with massive people, that makes the world like a real world (with people, social). It is not about competition between players, so not PVP games. If you want PVP, play Albion, LoL, whatever....

@ATXAdventure Месяц назад

Let the toxic guilds be as toxic as fk in the alpha, that will give the devs plenty of time to figure out what changes they need to make for a healthy game. Last thing I want is for the toxicity to just become apparent at launch.

@baz4k Месяц назад

I feel like I have faith in Intrepid now unless either: 1. Alpha 2 is complete dog shit, or 2. Alpha 2 doesn't come out this year. Until one of these happen I still believe in the project. Either way, I will have the answer by the end of the year.