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Express lift stuck 

Beno
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Firstly, this is a 70s 2nd gen Express lift, that has had the logic semi replaced. The position system has been replaced and wired into the original logic. Very unusual.
Lifts do get stuck sometimes. This doesn't mean that they need modernizing. Its just that mechanical things do brake down sometimes. I believe that the problem was either an overheat of the motor or DC converter (either from the amount of use these lifts get, or something making it draw too much current). The thing is not that the lift broke, but how the staff handled it.
Before the lift got stuck, I could hear an alarm coming from the motor room. At the time I didn't know anything about this (although I know now as theres videos of this alarm). I thought the alarm was coming from the Mobile transmitter, and I got in the lift. All 2nd/3rd gen Express have this alarm (separate from the lift alarm) which sounds when there is a problem. The lift then got stuck when it started moving, It tried again twice then gave up.
What was most shocking was not getting stuck but what happened next. After I rang the bell for a long time and got no response, I then looked up the phone number of the building and phoned them (I would have been very stuck without my Android, which was almost out of battery).
I tried phoning the building but didn't get anywhere. Then the next thing I hear is loud banging from the motor room. And this was not the lift, I could clearly hear someone up there banging away at something. I had no idea what they were doing, the lift didn't need manual rescue as it was not far from the floor. I shouted out as loud as I could and the guy in the motor room muttered something back which I couldn't understand. Their lack of communication was shocking, and banging at stuff in the motor room is not acceptable with someone trapped in the lift. I believe he was banging at the brake to release it, which is very stupid as this gearless lift would have started moving out of control without a brake (the proper rescue procedure uses controlled brake releasing, not banging the lift free). If he had succeeded the lift would have started moving upwards (as one person in lift is below mid weight) and he would not have been able to stop with a smashed up break, the lift would have hit the roof.
After some more attempts at phoning them, I finally got a response. The person on the other end started off being friendly then quickly started being rather rude. After I explained that the lift got stuck, the conversation went on for a while, and she then asked if I wanted the fire brigade to let me out. (rather odd thing to say). I said something along the lines of "that sounds a bit extreme", and I didn't want to waste their time unnecessarily. She then started getting grumpy and said that I would now have to wait half an out for Jacksons to come and let me out as she would not do it herself because of some crap about health and safety (which was not true as building staff should be able to let people out a lift, its not exactly hard).
After this the conversation started to get heated when she realized that I knew stuff about lifts, when I started asking questions about the operation of the lift. She acted as if having knowledge was a crime, and then started demanding to know why the lift was at the top floor when there is no cars up there (She didn't understand lift filming). Then she demanded to know my name and address and I told her to stuff it. After a long conversation she said that she would phone 999 for the fire brigade as that was the only way that I could get out.
Within 3 minuets, 2 friendly firemen came and let me out (who luckily didn't have better things to do with their time). After I was out the lift the guy in the motor room, and the lady I spoke to took me (more like forced me) into there office and again started asking for my details. I told them exactly what I thought of their shitty communication skills, and I demanded to know what was going on in the motor room. They denied that the banging in the motor room ever happened (the fucking liers trying to cover up that they broke H&S). And they had the cheek of saying that they couldn't open the lift doors themselves due to H&S (what a load of total shit, like they never do anything against H&S like trying to smash a lift's brake). Then they started interrogating why I had a knowledge of lifts and they made it clear (although without actually using any words) that they would forcefully not let me leave if I tried, if I didn't give them my details. So I gave them fake details, oh yeah, like I was going to give them two shits my actual details.

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@DieselDucy
@DieselDucy 9 лет назад
also the way the staff handled it was uncalled for. you should not have to give them your details when their lift broke.. again excellent job in handling the situation both with the broken lift and the crappy staff
@boiii3productions945
@boiii3productions945 7 лет назад
not good. This Elevator (LIFT) might now be modernized by another company (usually a generic company).
@Mind-The-Doors
@Mind-The-Doors 6 месяцев назад
​@@boiii3productions945It still hasn't been modernized yet!!
@the_alex_ellis_channel6923
@the_alex_ellis_channel6923 9 лет назад
You MUST report what happened to the proper authorities. It will otherwise only be a matter of time until they do something stupid and actually yank off the brake, and ruin their lift, or possibly seriously injure or kill someone.
@DieselDucy
@DieselDucy 9 лет назад
there were people working on the elevaror and they ignore the bell ? that is not right. anyway great job remaining calm
@benolifts
@benolifts 9 лет назад
+DieselDucy There wasn't anyone working on the lift. A guy that worked in the building went into the motor room to try and get it moving. All I could hear was loud banging of a hammer against the lift machinery.
@pri6490
@pri6490 7 лет назад
Beno THATS WHY FUCK RELAY LOGICS
@alees9344
@alees9344 4 года назад
Beno test a VERY VERY OLD LIFT
@mattmoreira210
@mattmoreira210 9 лет назад
In my country, someone patented in 2005 a "self-rescue mode" equipment that has a button for it inside the cab. This equipment sends the technicians SMS messages with status informations, and at the same time resets the lift controller for it to pass again through its self-check and self-adjust routines, and be quickly returned to service. Unfortunately, (of course) no lift company showed interest on this system, because they receive revenue for each service the client requests. Saaaad... :(
@johitch5837
@johitch5837 6 лет назад
I found this funny when the lift said Doors closing the doors are closed lol
@xxzrx
@xxzrx 9 лет назад
Hi I love your videos, great work. I typed in beno accidentally on my keyboard and It came up your youtube videos.
@keith800
@keith800 9 лет назад
Seems the building did not have a very good procedure in place for such an incident and should review their policy as someone should recognise the lift alarm bell and respond appropriately.
@PostTower
@PostTower 9 лет назад
I already expected that one shouldnt tell anything about their knowledge about lifts when getting stuck, now it has been proven to be a good idea. However, I can't believe they actually put you and the lift into risk of upwards crashing. This is absolutely inacceptable and should be told everywhere around! Good that you've done this video, Ben! Such ignorant behavior can not be tolerated. You handled this situation perfect, calm and smart. Was that strange person a Jackson employee? If not, I actually recommend you to report that to Jackson.
@benolifts
@benolifts 9 лет назад
+Uplifting PostTower The guy that went in the motor room was not a lift engineer. He was just somebody who worked there. He sounded like he was waking random bits of the lift with a hammer to try and get it going.
@PostTower
@PostTower 9 лет назад
Lol. And? Did it work? Then I'm gonna whack the motherboard of my PC next time it gets broken, Lol! Or maybe not... really, how can one allow a seemingly non-qualified person to access the lift machine room? Strange...
@ELPaso1990TX
@ELPaso1990TX 7 лет назад
The guy in the motor room sounds like he was Frank Spencer.
@letterEl894
@letterEl894 Месяц назад
​@@benoliftsbro was howtobasic but with a hammer
@pikakai
@pikakai 9 лет назад
Yeah you show them! Don't let them give you shit :p
@satoshiaaron
@satoshiaaron 9 лет назад
Bells never work :C Same in Bennie lifts. When I get stuck in them I can't get out. I need to wait until I get lucky and get phone signal... Or it starts moving again.
@Matty12333
@Matty12333 9 лет назад
This is disgraceful, I would contact the health and safety executive. Not acceptable at all, does the lift not have remote elevator monitoring?
@DieselDucy
@DieselDucy 9 лет назад
also do lifts have phones over there ?
@benolifts
@benolifts 9 лет назад
+DieselDucy Not all lifts have phones in the UK. It is not a requirement.
@haz05-06
@haz05-06 9 лет назад
some lifts do have phones. but not old ones here.
@imeakdo7
@imeakdo7 7 лет назад
CraftHunterGaming - buses, trains lifts in here dont have them.
@mowyourlawn889
@mowyourlawn889 6 лет назад
Some times when you press the alarm for 10 seconds but not always
@scottsliftsX1
@scottsliftsX1 5 месяцев назад
Some lift in the UK have phones but there built in the bell button
@imeakdo7
@imeakdo7 7 лет назад
the laws on my country say "there must be cameras, propietary keys and anti surf devices on all lifts since 2012 and only certified lift engineers will be authorized by the goverment to be on top of, service, and rescue people from lifts. also, the motor room must have a propietary key, anti intrusion devices with tamper and vandal resistant and evident technology and cameras, in order to prevent terrorists from attaching bombs to the lift, it's shaft, and it's equipment. In addition, triangle key imports are banned. BUT WTF!??!?!?!?
@breakinglimitssickjambutte9450
Just read the description after watching the video. That lady has a cheek to speak to you like that. She doesn't understand lift filming wtf.
@sheel1972
@sheel1972 4 года назад
Who exactly were those two staff, who were completely off their heads?!
@sheel1972
@sheel1972 4 года назад
If I was the engineer in the motor room, I would open the shaft door and surf the lift to the nearest floor, rather than constantly making all those banging sounds.
@tastysalad114
@tastysalad114 9 лет назад
Is the siren sound in beginning of the video from motor room?
@benolifts
@benolifts 9 лет назад
+Some Boody Yes.
@Alanabanana09
@Alanabanana09 9 лет назад
+Aaron Burtt must be a fire or a smokey motor
@satoshiaaron
@satoshiaaron 9 лет назад
Alanabanana09 Nah, roller fell of door and the lift wouldn't give p trying to open. I turned the lift off and left a note on top so I got a thanks from the engineer
@maxtransport1673
@maxtransport1673 8 лет назад
Yes
@DylanGamez_Offical
@DylanGamez_Offical Год назад
Bro I can hear the fire alarm going off
@noahkopitzke6884
@noahkopitzke6884 Год назад
On 0:03 There was an Fire Alarm
@lukedavis436
@lukedavis436 5 лет назад
That bell sounds like an NAC fire bell
@newchannelcomingsoon5800
@newchannelcomingsoon5800 4 года назад
Who else hears a fire alarm going off
@ethanethanminecraftandmore3804
i can hear the alarm system going off the moter probably stop shoted out and cut the power
@NESTABROWN9
@NESTABROWN9 4 года назад
Pretty worst this elevator is done a heck of it!
@shibelover9433
@shibelover9433 9 лет назад
That's scary !'
@Mia-vc2mf
@Mia-vc2mf 2 года назад
What Town was this in Please
@RobloxTrainspotting
@RobloxTrainspotting 2 года назад
I can here the fire alarm
@BluestarFanOfficial
@BluestarFanOfficial 5 лет назад
Beno.i.think the staff had a fire alarm going off I think the lift got stuck on fire mode when I herd the alram from.the outside
@tomosjones-abbas2279
@tomosjones-abbas2279 3 года назад
Read the description (it explanes the sound).
@NariNW
@NariNW 9 лет назад
i got stuck in a lift once when i was 5, i don't know what lift it was. Also why can i hear a alarm going off?
@nelsonahlvik6650
@nelsonahlvik6650 5 лет назад
Read the description
@nubiandoll7
@nubiandoll7 8 лет назад
So did he get out?
@benolifts
@benolifts 8 лет назад
No, I am still stuck in the lift today.
@PL1Lifts
@PL1Lifts 7 лет назад
LOL!
@Tralient
@Tralient 6 лет назад
OwenR10 You idiot he got out look at his videos you
@nelsonahlvik6650
@nelsonahlvik6650 5 лет назад
Read the description before you comment
@Fatboy012
@Fatboy012 4 года назад
How long were in there
@villagernumber77
@villagernumber77 8 лет назад
why was the fire alarm going off
@benolifts
@benolifts 8 лет назад
+Villagernumber77 Channel it wasn't
@Cazkumali
@Cazkumali 8 лет назад
+Beno How long were you stuck in there for
@maxtransport1673
@maxtransport1673 8 лет назад
It was not the fire alarm it was a alarm by the lift motor room
@mareecrawford5672
@mareecrawford5672 8 лет назад
hi dieselducy
@lanovkarj
@lanovkarj 8 лет назад
CRAP!
@matthewr955
@matthewr955 9 лет назад
Fire alarmMotorised bell)lol m
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