It should be noted: Those gaming results aren't typical. There can be several contributing factors to those results: 1. Toms Hardware was using a less optimized and earlier version of Cyberpunk (before the benchmark was added) 2. There is a CP2077 LTT discovered where it did NOT apply the graphic setting presets, even through it said it did. A debloat will net between 5-10% performance uplift, UNLESS your CPU is the bottleneck leading to lower performance, which those numbers can get higher.
*few things and queries* >How did you do the graphics card pass through in an VM >Name the VM software you used VM ware or virutalbox >Can you provide the windows ISO you used
Hello @ChrisTitusTech , been following you for a while now, thank you for the good content. I was wondering if you know about a tool to edit the context menu on Windows.
@@keerthyvash Proxmox is the better choice for bare-metal hypervisor. Virtualbox is a simple level 2 hypervisor; VMWare is nice but often overkill for simple tasks. Proxmox fills a good void. It supports passing video, storage, etc., controllers through.
There is a bug with CP2077 where the graphics settings are not applied correctly, unless you put each setting manually, otherwise it will default to a lower preset, that happened to Linus Tech tips in their 4090 review
@@ChrisTitusTech Yeah it's true you have to use a setting that makes the "apply" appear and then click it. Such as turn on DLSS hit apply then turn it back off then the settings will stick. It's quicker than going thru each one or restarting after each change.
@@ChrisTitusTech That is not what happens exactly, what happens is the game applies the right settings, but the presets also activate FSR, that is what is needed to change manually.
I forget which, but some popular fps game anticheat required windows smart screen to work. Anticheats are always the biggest problem for me when cleaning up windows.
I used your tweaks on top of ghost spectre. Cool tool. Also don't forget to disable all your scheduled task and set all services to manual , like browser updater, adobe updater etc...
@@Skajdrovski When it comes to this stuff, test it for yourself. Numerous people have used LDAT tools etc. and there's not much of a difference with or without debloating. I used to go real hard with debloating in NTLite but these days I just use a stock Win10 LTSC 2021 and my own registry keys to set the settings / disable defender. CTT Tool can do pretty much the same thing as well. Up to you in the end.
@@Skajdrovski You can experiment with / without CTT tool, see what you feel like. There has been an update to the GamerOS preset however on NTLite forums about a month ago so I'm going to check it out. It has a bunch of changes and some minor fixes for things.
Chris, when you upgrade to Zen4 you should make a passthrough tutorial, Zen4 has an integrated GPU, even with 2 CU's you can easily passthrough all the pictures to the host-system which come from the discrete graphics card in the virtual system. However, make sure that you then buy a motherboard with good IOMMU. In regard to this comparison with Tom's Hardware, take into consideration that updates might make the game perform the game better too.
I'm not sure how updated the graph is but the game fps increase might be because of the updates from CDPR and driver updates from AMD, the game was very unoptimized at release. Love your vids keep up the good work!
You still get extraperformance when you exced your monitor's refresh rate. Hardware Unboxed made a video on this topic, it's about input lag, that's why CSGO players play with uncap framerates. On games like Cyberpunk 2077 and such, is not as necesary but just to be correct, more fps is almost always better even if you are running on a 60 Hz monitor (unless you are getting inconsistent frametimes). LTT also made a video, analyzing all the different scenarios, high fps on 60 Hz monitors delivered better results in their testing. More accuracy from a sample of 5 people (noobs and pros).
I'm tempted to do an Extreme Debloat on my Music Server (VLC with Full-Screen-Visulizations). At the moment, there's 150 processes running, with the fan kicking in periodically. 15W i7-8650U NUC
Thanks for the guide I have been using a debloated windows from a torrent site since I wasn't able to do it myself. But with this and the other videos, it's time to try again. Windows is so much better will out all the junk. Although, Arch Linux is still the best but nothing beats windows for no nonsense gaming.
im not a tech guy at all but some 25 years of personal use on windows, i was able to -- disable some windows processes from RUN> MSconfig > services and was at 3gbs in ram before i saw this video but doing it every freaking install is a bitch.
@@alexandernazarov7636 User Account Control (UAC) is a Windows security feature designed to protect the operating system from unauthorized changes. When changes to the system require administrator-level permission, UAC notifies the user, giving the opportunity to approve or deny the change.
If only they made a modular windows where we could install the bare minimum to run the OS and then download "feature" packages from the microsoft store instead of planning to make an entirely on the cloud OS for the next windows version...
There is a huge flaw in your performance analysis against Tom's Hardware's numbers. The Tom's Hardware numbers are from Cyberpunk 2077's launch version (1.03) which came out back in December 10, 2020. Cyberpunk 2077 has seen a lot of bug fixes and performance optimizations since. Also, one other thing to note is that Cyberpunk 2077's launch version didn't have an in-game benchmark, this was added with the Patch 1.50 earlier this year, in February. Tom's Hardware might've used a different location which is likely more demanding than the benchmark scene CDPR has chosen. That too is another thing to consider. Edit: Looks like I was absolutely spot on about their choice of test location, to quote the Tom's Hardware article: Our test is simple: We start near the entrance to V's apartment complex, down on the ground floor. Then we walk down the stairs, cross the street to the left, cross the next street to the right, and head off toward Tom's Diner. Turn left in front of the diner, across another street and up the stairs, and past the two cops talking to some irritated civilians. "But when the Tygers come around, you ain't nowhere to be found!" (I may have walked this path too many times.) Furthermore, AMD"s drivers have matured, and if you use features like Resizable Bar, you can get even more performance out of the RX 5700 XT, especially when you're in CPU limited scenarios. The best way for you to gauge the improvements is to actually compare it against an absolute stock Windows 10 ISO, run the games and compare its numbers against the stripped-down Windows 10 installation you've created. That's the only way for the benchmark numbers to be meaningful. Love the work you're doing, looking forward to seeing where this all ends up.
@@dullahangaming5107the reason why he didn't show it in this video is because you wont really have any performance boot. He is not dumb, by creating this video he definitively knew that is what we wanted to see
Cyberpunk 2077 has always been buggy and inefficient. I was amazed when it first came out that everyone believed it was just "So good it pushes the bounds of your graphics card" ... when the reality is the game has garbage optimization. The trend in the industry has been, for decades, to write shittier and shittier code that runs like hot garbage and rely on hardware improvements to cover for the awful programming. Microsoft spearheaded this trend with Windows and now all the AAA gamers do it... they obviously won't fix the trend because people keep buying the hardware to play the "popular" games.
something is seriously wrong with these abnormally high results. in my testing, debloating windows does not result with more than %3-%5 performance uplift. maybe its a bug in the game and the settings are not really set to ultra.
Someone mentioned a bug in C2077 that didn't apply settings correct even though it showed it did. Also those Tom's results I'm pretty sure were from an earlier version. Either way, I'd say it is not typical to see that kind of jump.
@@ChrisTitusTech The Cyberpunk 2077 bug that LTT experienced (along with nearly every other media outlet apparently) is that you need to change a setting after changing the preset to get an "apply" button to save your changed settings. LTT and a few other outlets only changed the preset and never took the second step to get an "apply" button to save their settings so their benchmarks were ran on the default stock settings. (this isn't actually a bug, per se, just a shitty design choice that has been in the game since launch)
@@dim3nt0 man just try it out and see it for yourself, he even goes as far as explaining what everything is and does if you let the cursor stay on top of it
@@fabioalmeidajou i did try, multiple times. Thing is you dont miss big things, small thing are dealbraker. I dont want win7 or xp, w10 is wastly better experience and you lose some of that or much of that deleting everything from it. Its hard to remove all the bad stufd witout removing some.of goos stuff also.
the biggest problem with that debloat is, sometimes i had a problems with steam games, i couldn't start them because some files were missing, or system wasn't stable, fps dropped and got stutters, im not saying that debloat is bad, it's great but i have encountered some problems, and had to reinstall after
From all the games you could've tested, you've got to test CP2077? And even though it got some patches since it's release, didn't you realized that there should be a flaw with the result you've got? And still you've posted that video... That's not cool.
Hey Chris, Hope you're doing well, I would recommend and would like to see an alternative preset/version that preserves Wi-Fi connectivity, an extreme windows lite install is great but if you are wanting to do it on a laptop it would be crippling to not be able to take advantage of the built-in Wi-Fi functionality and the portability that comes with it.
My main question which I also hope you adress. How much maintenance does this take? The main issue with debloating in extremes is not that it's too hard but that usually some work is undone with simple updates which take priority for security. Also I find there's a little bit missing information on what exactly is getting debloated. Like personally I'd prefer keeping Windows Defender. I'm not an avg user...but not a educated power user. I'm in the middle. I'd love to have like a middleroad in this.
Exactly the same for me, every time I try to debloat my Windows, something, somewhere, sometime will eventually break because of it. At this point I just don't bother anymore, I never felt any real performance difference from before and after debloating anyway.
Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021 is the best version of Windows for the time being. It is already been "debloated" without breaking anything, and it is an official edition by Microsoft. It can be debloated more if someone needs that, but most of the crap is removed. Also it has no Microsoft Store, but it can be installed with a single command. ( For example to play games with Xbox Game Pass.) If anyone interesting I can recommend the r/Windows10LTSC subreddit.
I love these debloats, but I wish there was one tailored to Gamepass Ultimate gamers who need the dependencies for it. Or at least notes about what we would need to keep that Chris throws out.
I highly recommend trimming down windows. By and large it won't significantly impact your FPS, but it will noticeably improve smoothness. NTLite is a great tool allowing you to strip out core subsystems like windows update and services which the system doesn't allow you do stop. The result is a system that is fast and frozen in time.
Love these latest videos about taking the useless junk that comes with a standard windows install, purchased NTlite following your video and would love to see a video on how to make some good pre-sets to use . Also love your Linux videos.
Thanks bro, I went from 135-140 processes minimum & 150 processes average to 79-86 processes minimum & 95 processes average on windows 10 I used another debloater (Still used yours), it didn't give me much more space, but it did decrease the ram usage by 200 megabytes and brought the minimum processes 77-83 & 94 processes average I killed some tasks with task manager and set some tasks to low priority and it got my minimum procceses down to 75-81 & 90 processes average I still like to use some of the microsoft apps and have some security features on (I downloaded some fishy stuff a few years back) so I didnt get as low as you, but I went from 5.5gb left to 22gb left on my c drive
w7 i had ~40 proc. fully functioning for gaming and office etc w/o much hassle at all, just some services and other basic tweaks, for w10 with the same effort/easy its impossible to even reach 80, needs more work w10 is the definition of bloat, runs stable though cant complain much
It should be noted, bold and underlined in flashing letters, that debloating windows usually affects its stability and future compatibility with updates. Windows is NOT modular. You cannot forcefully remove something from the OS and expect it to keep working perfectly forever. Only do this if you are not afraid of having ocasional bluescreens, app crashes, missing things, failed windows updates and etc. While this can be useful, do this at your own risk. Don't call Windows "unstable" if you try to always debloat it to the max. Still, great video for those who really want it (and understand the risks)!
Microsoft itself should provide something like this "only for gaming"... A version they don't run st*pid background apps and collect our data and other tons of sh**ty background things. I would love to pay for it $10 a month if I see a huge performance increase on my system during gaming
Hi Chris, I really appreciate your effort that u put in making this useful win utility, keep up the good work! Just one question: why do u have to change my boot menu if disable telemetry is checked ? can u just get rid of that string that I believe it isn't related to telemetry... and moreover it will NOT be reverted if I click UndoALL tweaks.... Write-Host "Enabling F8 boot menu options..." bcdedit /set `{current`} bootmenupolicy Legacy | Out-Null
i avoid customize too many things on my windows. yeah i can get smoother gaming experience but somehow i can't run certain software i usually used due to unknown error. unless i have better knowledge on computer.
Great video as always... Think this process should be good to do at anytime, as you are stripping out the what can be removed without compromising the system. Also people can use this as a reference point to check off whats necessary and the unnecessary processes that are installed with some programs.
Why haven't Microsoft created a gamers version baked into windows, so it'll restart and boot into a gamers session that uses a stripped down gamers version while having the full windows experience by rebooting back into it.
3:10 you lost me at disable UAC. Secure network doesn't have much to do with it, letting *everything* that asks for it have admin rights is a great idea. not.
Looking forward to the next one. Have to ask though, at this point isn't it just better to game on Linux instead? That much of a heavy debloat makes Win10 very impractical for a daily driver machine (security and stability-wise). Not everyone can do the pass-through thing, and dual-booting just for gaming is annoying at least.
As someone that does a dual boot. Performance is definitely worse on Linux by about 15%. I let my pc boot into Linux by default as I mainly go to RU-vid and Reddit. But when it's gaming time, gotta switch to windows really. Maybe not if it's a low graphics game
You are showing benchmarks from old version of the game.. like 2020 or something.. 13:45 "I only have 120hz display so why waste additional resources when I don't need to" - sir you are literally doing benchmark.. In benchmarks you are supposed to not limit performance by any means. Please learn basics before making videos like this. All this video does is disinformation. In reality there is barely any difference in performance beween regular windows and barebone difference unless your computer is outdated.
This works wonders for my system. I tried it on already installed and bloated Windows, and it didn't work as I thought, so I reinstalled and then ran the utility, and my CPU went berserk with gaming and benchmark performance. I have a nearly 7% increase in overall performance and I have all the software that I have installed previously as of now. Thank you so much for the magic trick. I really owe you.
So what happens to these custom windows tweaks when it's time for Windows to do a big update? Can the newer big updates even install correctly after so much custom tweaking? Or will the entire thing break and you'll need to reinstall windows from 0?
At 2:15 he says there is no windows update, so it will never update. Which means you will need to download the newest update and build the custom windows off of that, basically rebuild windows again and set it up all over again. But if you only care about gaming and very basic things then you shouldn't need to worry about windows updates at all
This is a life saver for computer that are usable and not old enought to be discarted! Thank you very much for all the work! you just save me two computers to use for my family.
10:56 "we have 8 cores or basically 4 cores with 2 threads each" Meanwhile at the top " AMD Ryzen 5 5600x 6 core processor" 🤣 that was unprofessional to be honest
Thank you Chris. I have two tuxedo laptops one has to run Windos. Your tool and vids are helpful in keeping my system clean I’m not a windows guy so I’m very happy with your help. Greetings from the Netherlands
I installed Tron not too long ago and was wondering why my cpu was being maxxed out. After doing a scan using bitdefender, it found 3 trojans! Luckily they were deleted but I hate to think what they sent from my box :(
I enjoy these debloat videos. I mainly run flight sims in VR, so extra processes in the background can make a difference. Tuning your rig is the best way to get the best performance and still have great immersion.
@@DrNooberious ??? You got pro players on 20k setups using low settings. This tutorial is for bots he isn't even a gamer. Your FPS depends on your Hardware
@@flipinfin Pros play on low settings for the highest fps possible. Reducing the number of active processes in windows can and does increase fps, mainly the 1% and 0.1% lows, or stutter as some call it. I am curious if their is any tangible fps difference in windows 11 normal vs debloated hence why I left the comment.
@@DrNooberious Its all personal preference. Some want graphics over FPS nothing is wrong with that. Though as a gamer with a decent rig debloating software isn't going to decrease your FPS in a far margin. Hence you can disable background apps lol disable game bar. If you a have a Nvidia GPU go to your 3d settings and and lower the settings tons of RU-vid videos. I just used pro players as an example cuz some has the best hardware money can buy and still play on low settings.
Horrible video that doesn't tell you any manual process so that you know what processes you're removing, it is literally just this guy selling his program that does it all for you. Shamelessly gets straight into his program that he created for this task.
Your tool is pretty awesome. I used the "Desktop" preset only unchecking the GameDVR option (Because I do not know and do not want to mess anything up) and voila! running processes went from 205 to 110 in next reboot. Subscribing to you now! Would love to see more such videos. Please do Win 11 22H2 next.
@Chris Titus Tech Your testing methodology is BAD! you cannot take performance benchmarks from gpus that are 2 years old with old drivers and compare them with up to date drivers and game patches. You basicly did not proof anything. A real test would be using the exact same hardware default windows! at least 3 meassurment cycles then the exact same hardware debloatet windows at least 3 meassurment cycles and then compare numbers.
@@Mgame1988 Maybe you did not understand what i tried to say here. he is putting a lot of work into his videos it´s just a shame that a bad testing methodology renders his results unusable.
Sometimes in CSGO you feel something is wrong when you tap or fire some head your bullets misses (fps and ping seems normal). For me cutting win process to half and add steam games folder in antivirus exceptions make the difference 💯
Chris, I love it that you couldn't resist to emphasize that you don't use settings like film grain, motion blur, flares. I am with you on that! Especially those fake camera effects don't make any sense to me, the point is to not look through a camera but get immersed in the gaming-world. Also, TV and movies are not as popular as those once were.
Holy crap on a cracker! I haven't done any tweaks on my home system in awhile. I work and game on my home system, RDP into work..etc. I had about 250 processes when I had everything open during work hours that I normal do. This is now down to 150 with everything open. I am definitely going to look into this when we role out desktop refresh this year. Thanks for this! Just subbed.
Is this supposed to be an online system because no one but advanced users should ever remove WIndows Defender or Update. That is how you get viruses and adware and compromise your system. It is like never updating your phone. Even advanced users should not be gaming on Windows 7 online. Vulnerabilities exist and will grow overtime.
him: some pcs reach 200 processes at full load. me sitting here with 240 processes just because im watching yt and have discord opened (i have done all the advanced settings to get best performance):
Hey Chris, thank you for all the things I learned through your content, love your videos 🙏 can I use your tool to deblote my W11? It isn't a clean install, that's why I'm asking
Wazzup ChrisI Super great video!👍 Wonder how Good This kind of Extreme Windows will Work for Like Photo edting Programs like capture one, Photoshop And Lightroom? You can benchmark Photoshop, Lightroom, DaVinci Resolve, After Effects And Premiere Pro with a Program called PugetBench from Puget systems. 🤓 It would Be super Intresssting to see You TEST somthing like that on a Extreme Windows Build! If you Would Have the Time to do it! 😎🤤🤔 Hope you have a great WEEKEND! 🤙
It is time to make a serious Linux gaming video again. For the time being, I am not using Windows, at home and I have a Series X for the Microsoft specific gaming needs. Oh, and in this stripped version of Windows, does the XBox Store still work?
I'm pretty sure it's removed, like the normal MS Store, since most people find it to be useless crap but I would assume it should be easy enough to reinstall it, I think it's just a normal windows store app, anyway
Isn't your resolution way less than 1920X1080 since you manually changed the windows resolution, so your results show a 50% increase because its rendering 50% less pixels?
No windows update? What about security updates? Also, do you suggest a replacement for windows defender? I don't think Brave by itself will save you from every threat 🤔
> ...Setting 120FPS cap because on 120Hz monitor it won't matter (to go above) Of course for this use case it wouldn't matter, but in general I saw some videos about Pro-CSGO, where they say it's better to increase the FPS cap slightly above max Hz, so the GPU has some overhead frames and picks the best ones to display, instead of disregarding all extra frames.
This is impressive. It would've been a must for me on the i5 7400 back in the day. But on a 5900X it's just unnecessary. Unless some of those "deleted" processes used the GPU for 3D work, there's basically 0 improvement on that front. But it's great for boot times and lowering the CPU/RAM usage a little bit. With this you can def gain some Cinebench points for free.
Absolutely spot on. I tried tiny 10 a while ago but I found that it really was not very different than my regular windows install after I had installed the basic things that I need. The process count may be about 50 processes lower but those processes were probably tiny anyway.
When i start my system my usage is around 4gb but this is with bitdefender and malwarebytes installed.When i run the browser with addons and 5 tabs it gets to 6.3 gb
So you didnt make AB test on your system before and after but took a random number from internet and left the viewers to think that you gained 30+FPS from your tool. WoW. I llike some of your videos but THATS CALLED MISSLEADING.
Sir please help me: For ubuntu 20.04,(which i am installing. Not yet installed) i am giving 60GB for root. 10GB for swap 54GB for home. I want to know under which file system and what mount point should i mount my HDD(1TB rem 900gbs) so that later i can symlink my home's subdirectories i.e downloads, docs, music, etc to my HDD. So as to ensure bigger storage space. I want to know Which partitioning scheme for the HDD i. Logical or physical File system for my HDD partition eg Ext4, Ext3 or FAT32 Mount Point i should create for it(if anything in specific)
13:45 "Going above that.." Higher fps gives you less delay. This is important in competitive games such as cs, valorant. But for games with single player stories, This can be useful to use less power. My real example: 60 fps valorant vsync: 80 ms delay no fps limit (180 fps) valorant: 40 ms delay.
You know I tried a lot of things over the years, my most recent was de bloating windows 11, went from 180 to around 70 processes, and what I've found that a bone stock Windows install opting out of most of the data collection did not change my gaming performance much compared to the de bloated OS, but what I found was the RGB software that hammers the FPS more than anything, unfortunately most RGB crap uses software as a controller so the amount of calls it makes even for a static color kinda hurts FPS. But leaving the preinstalled bloat and the weather, all that bull crap really didn't change much in terms of gaming performance, at least not with my 5900x and 3080ti and 32GB of ram. I do de bloat to a point though, I dont want preinstalled bull crap, im not going to use Hulu on my PC, or Netflix, I run a Jellyfin Media server with a ton of movies to avoid paying for that stuff, or groovy music, yeah nope, it can go. Data collection yeah i'll disabled that bull crap. But I do want to leave the OS mostly alone, debloating too much does break some things that I might use or need later down the road. The PC I use for my windows server, I de bloat the crap out of it, if I don't need it, its gone, Windows 10 on it with Jellyfin and Pihole, im just under 1GB of ram usage and rough around 60 processes.
