TRAIL RATINGS ARE LOCAL. Given the trails nearby it's at least a black. Lens and good rider can hide difficulty to keyboard warriors. What is a green in France, Colorado, or Whistler has nothing to do with a trail in Utah. Heck, even a trail rating 6mi away has nothing to do with the trail ratings at this location. Also an interesting fact; the name comes from the fact that when building the trail the builders discovered a corpse. Hence Boneyard and Tombstone.
That is an absolutely ridiculous statement. Ratings are not something, and definately should not be, 'local' or variable in any way. A standard is a standard regardless of location. This trail is not even close to being a double black. at best it's a blue trail, basically a straight up flow trail. Understanding that trails are, or at least are supposed to be rated by there most difficult section, be that short or long, there was not one section on this that could honestly be called 'double black diamond' and to rate it as such for whatever reason simply is an effort to make an area or trail network more appealing to tourists (visitors). Any respectable trail manager/builder would never rate that trail as more than a blue, which is what it is. Rating this harder could ultimately lead someone to think they the skills for a proper double black diamond, which could put them in a VERY bad situation with serioud risk of injury. That is THE reason ratings are standard regardless of location. Someone could get hurt riding a true double black, and theoretically, come back and sue these guy for making them think they had the skills to ride a true double black, when they don't. Dumbing down ratings is never a good thing and should never be defended.
@@Tony_Karzen With all respect, you are clueless. Ski trails and MTB trails have been rated LOCAL for eons. It's not a new thing. A blue in Squamish has little resemblance to a blue anywhere else (for example). Otherwise every trail in Squamish would be a yellow or double black, and every trail in Cedar City a green (for example). That's a stupid way to do it. The ratings are a relative rating to give GUIDANCE to riders on how to progress on a new-to-them trail system. Pre-ride, work your way up, not work your way down. Have a good one.
@@johnconnolly2815 Clearly it is you who is clueless. That could not be further from the truth. Standards like trail ratings are not local, otherwise they carry zero actual value and tell people nothing. Having grown up in a ski town, skied my whole life, across the US and Europe, I can tell you for certain, a blue is a blue wherever you are. The same holds true for bike trails. As a trail builder myself, having also ridden in a very wide array of locations, blue trails are blue trails. There is no discussion on this. Also, having worked in both the ski and bike industries, I can say that the insurance industry is a HUGE driver in how trails are rated. It is critical to liability claims and related issues. Do you actually believe they would insure one location whose black trails are proper black trails when others rate their blue trails as double black diamond? Of course they wouldn't. The standard is there as guidance, of course, but that guidance has to be consistent otherwise it means nothing.
@@Tony_Karzen pretty funny since I rate a lot of Utah trail difficulties for the signs and apps. You should stick to your home cooking stuff. Also funny that you are a skier. A Snowbird blue is vastly more difficult than a blue at 95% of ski areas around the world. For example. A Snowbird green is a black at a lot of places. Just saying. The standard is trail ratings ARE LOCAL.
I'm guessing the risk factor of certain sections being at height and the potential dangers made this a double black, because otherwise it looks pretty chill.
I would agree with that. I also wondered about all the warning signs at the trail entrance, makes me wonder if several people got hurt pretty bad on that trail because of those dangers.
Most likely from people with over inflated egos trying to haul down it as fast as possible without ever being on it first and simply getting out of control in the wrong place.
True to some extent, but while cutting across the upper ridge, the trail is much steeper than it appears here and is very loose terrain. Compound that with the high exposure and you understand why it’s a double Black
And that trail does not look anything more than a blue! Maybe if you started hitting some of those doubles, it might be a single black, but what is all the warning about?! There was absolutely nothing to that trail that was double black!
Rode about a year ago. It’s steep otherwise ordinary black. And although steep, not all that rocky and no? ledges. (don’t remember - but none noteworthy). It was a fun trail and the warning and skeleton are neat!
Looks pretty steep in places. High consequences in many parts and you could reach huge speeds if you let it go. But if you keep it controlled it looks quite chill.
I use to ride trails alone till I flipped and landed on my head. I was luckily, I was alright. The other thing was, it was just a sunset. If I was really hurt I would have been there all night long. After that when I ride alone, I take it easy.
I'm going to guess it's called Boneyard for all the ER visits caused by people thinking they are better than they are, and this is just a blue flow trail .
I thought it becomes double black when difficult features are mandatory and not easily walkable. If not hitting the features, it is more of a blue trail with some loose steep sections that you need to watch your speed. Looks super fun tho.
Awesome looking trail and nice riding Not seeing how they designated that as a double black though. Seems bluish but hey, I’m not in charge. Thanks for the video
Thats pretty lame. Trail is medium difficult at least. But- if i was in your place riding this for the first time i would have done just the same. Go slow, explore, you nver know whats up next...
There is nothing dangerous about this trail, it is a fun solid blue trail I ride all the time. This guy's camera makes sections look like they might have exposure, but they don't. It's just an easy, fun trail.
I know that the camera flattens things out considerably, but I still don’t see this as a double black. Black/Blue? Definitely. I still revere Portal as the ultimate double black and I’ll likely never ride it again.
Trail builders have nothing to lose and everything to gain by listing a trail as double black and dangerous. Then when someone inevitably gets hurt on it they are less likely to get sued.
Looks pretty fun actually. If you want some truly chunky black diamond try tunnel Trail and cold Springs in Santa Barbara.. 😂😂😂😂 especially tunnel Trail. There are plenty of RU-vid videos, check it out. I lived there and we would go up it on electric mountain bikes because it's so technical and fun.
It's a pretty sweet trail but it's listed too high for the reality of it. But I can understand as a newb with too much speed is going to F themselves up, big time.
How you liking the Knolly fugitive? LT? I have the exact same also in Raw. Love it. Great for trails like this. Just ordered the 170 Chilcotin today on sale. Great riding.
I absolutely love the Fugitive LT. Knolly makes very awesome bikes. I’ll bet you’re stoked to get that Chili… I’ve been eyeing that one and the Warden as well.
I don’t think the camera does it justice for how steep it is. But if you send the jumps and drops properly, they are double black features. The exposure and high winds add to the difficulty.
Yeah, that optional line has two back to back drops on the exit. I didn’t get a good look but I’m guessing they are 4 footers. I could be wrong though.
This IS NOT A TOUGH trail. I've ridden this several times and is maybe slightly challenging but definitely not a Double Black. Maybe your skills are not great but the trail is not the tough type.
