F-15E Strike Eagle Enters Service - "Junior" Suminsby, F-15E Initial Cadre

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10PCT #30: Rob "Junior" Suminsby.
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:55 Junior's Bio
00:03:07 F-15E Initial Cadre Selection
00:05:05 Patch Wearers Galore
00:06:21 '791 and the DRF
00:08:08 A Cadre and B Cadre
00:09:44 Flying the F-15 & F-16
00:13:33 Strike Eagle Requirements and Timing
00:18:39 Initial Cadre Composition
00:22:48 Academics with McAir
00:28:53 No CFTs
00:33:53 Cockpit Avionics
00:36:30 Radar Mapping
00:40:29 Tactics Development
00:45:47 Stuff Engineers Think Up
00:52:59 Responsibilities of the Initial Cadre
00:58:58 Cooks vs. Chefs
01:01:14 Tactics Validation
01:07:44 Boil the Ocean?
01:18:15 Community Perspectives
01:19:52 Light Grey Handling Differences
01:24:26 G Limits
01:25:13 Back Seat Controls
01:29:21 First Operational Wing - 4th TFW
01:34:02 Practicalities of a Dual Role Mission
01:38:49 LANTIRN
01:45:03 Scenarios
01:47:48 Training Syllabus
01:50:06 North Pointer... Software Development
01:53:55 WSO integration
01:57:24 Challenges of New Capabilities
02:00:31 Degraded Operations
02:05:54 AGMs
02:09:32 Outboard Pylons
02:11:05 Learning Outcomes
02:25:08 Sending the First Students off to War

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Комментарии : 51

@forthwithtx5852 2 года назад

I worked on F-15 A/B at Holloman through the ‘80’s. I think it was 1989 that we deployed to Luke and saw the brand new E. Looked weird with the conformals, but cool. “Funny” story: We used JP-4 exclusively at Holloman, but Luke used JP-8, which was a thinner fuel. Our jets immediately began leaking through every marginally good connection, which had us removing panels that had never been removed before. A decade or more of paint. So, I spent practically the entire TDY removing stuck screws. Great interview. Really enjoyed that.

@rsuminsby 2 года назад

One point I meant to cover, and forgot: How the airplane got its name. The term "Strike Eagle" was a MacAir marketing term, but in the 1980s, "Strike" was essentially a synonym for "Nuclear", and with relations with the Soviet Union starting to thaw, we all figured that terminology wasn't going to be the message the US wanted to send. But when Gen Robert "Big City Bob" Russ, the TAC Commander, came to Luke in April 1988 for the F-15E Activation Ceremony, he used the term Strike Eagle in his speech. So we all looked at each other and said "well, I guess that settles that!"

@sedlo 2 года назад

Ha! Golden Rule in effect!

@Dan-qp1el Год назад

Hi Rob Curious why the F-15 didn't get the same g-limiting protections as the F-16? As I understand it. you could wring out the 16 to its limits but the computer would protect the aircraft. I get the impression that one had to be more careful with the Eagle? Thank you for you service to our nation.

@rsuminsby Год назад

@@Dan-qp1el - the F-15 does have a fly-by-wire flight control system, but it operates in parallel with the hydro-mechanical system, so there was no limiter (hence the phrase “if I need 10Gs, then I’ll do as I please…”.) The F-16 had a slight advantage over the Eagle in initiating a break turn, in that they could command a very high G-onset rate without worrying about an over G.

@LRRPFco52 7 месяцев назад

Great interview! 86-0183 was F-15E #1. I remember when she arrived at Edwards AFB on the F-15 CTF with that nose marking. It arrived in March of '87. I remember seeing it at the CTF and flight line that year. We were still on the F-16C Block 30 & 40 A2A capes expansion at the IFAST Bldg at the time.

@104thMaverick 11 месяцев назад

Junior was a blast to listen to, what a funny guy his enthusiasm was infectious!

@Spirit-jm6ll Год назад

Thanks Steve and Rob for this episode. An absolutely fascinating look into the Strike Eagle entering service! I was associated with this program in the early 80’s as the McAir Flight Test Engineer for 71-0291. I had the privilege to work with Gary Jennings, the Program Pilot, as well as Wayne Wight, who performed the WSO duties during the A/G radar development and initial weapon deliveries (BDU-33). Seeing the ground radar images improve during the program, the addition of Pave Tack to further sweeten our targeting results; those were amazing times with truly impressive and hard working people. A/C 71-0291, the second two-seat Eagle ever built, was also the first to fly with the prototype conformal fuel tanks and prior to the Dual Role Fighter Program and its “lizard green” paint, it sported the red/white/blue bicentennial colors. Unfortunately, its fate was to become a battle damage repair trainer at Warner-Robbins.

@sashadiakow7609 2 года назад

Another really great interview. The one thing I like about this interview, is it isn't just about flying the F-15E but it is really about the story of introducing the F-15E into service.

@tlfflt1983 2 года назад

Really enjoyed the interview. It was great to hear from the F-111 transition perspective - how a great airframe can really keep getting better with electronics and software upgrades. There was no room in the F-111 for anything. We could not even get a new parachute on the overweight capsule knowing we could not survive a landing without likely back injury. I never would have guessed that the initial cadre were all patch wearers. A great success story well told. Thanks

@stevenc1978 Год назад

Another amazing interview, this makes me want to cancel my cable tv & just listen to more of your great channel ❤

@FoursInHot 5 месяцев назад

Great segment with Rob. Plus 10 for having the best heritage room seen to date. Is that a 20mm gun barrel and every squadron scarf Rob wore? The only thing more impressive was his articulate and expert knowledge of the Strike Eagle... Most us pilots refer to crap as magic. Rob was one of the early dudes who understood the technology and taught the jet to the Air Force... Great segment.

@therocinante3443 Год назад

What a criminally under-rated channel!

@terrancemccaffrey9954 2 года назад

This was an awesome interview Steve! I loved listening to the development of the jet and especially the contrast and connections to the Vark. The one question you asked about the radar generated instrument landing system was a good one. It was, in fact, developed for the exact situation you described. The reason we didn't do it very often is it is not a certified approach because it cannot insure separation from any obstacle. I remember practicing in VFR at Heyford on several occasions so that we were proficient. There, you opened another memory! Anyway, thanks again for continuing to produce such high quality programs! Marco

@10percenttrue 2 года назад

Great info, Marco 🥇

@garyklett405 2 года назад

Man, that was a 'blast from the past'! Junior covered stuff that I had forgotten about for years. I didn't get into the F-15E until the summer of '90 and a lot of the basic tactics had been largely worked out by those guys he talked about, but there was still a lot of experimentation with tactics. Way different today. 3-1 is the bible and not much "lets try this" getting briefed. Great discussion.

@10percenttrue 2 года назад

Thanks for watching, Reverend.

@rsuminsby 2 года назад

Good to hear from you, Rev!

@robo3915 2 года назад

Well this was great! It’s another one of yours that I’ll be listening to a few times! I’m going to re-listen to the F-15E interview with Stinger now.

@patrickshaw8333 2 года назад

Wow, this was a great discussion and very entertaining. I crossed paths with Junior several times during our Air Force careers--the Air Staff, command courses, etc. I am amazed at how much he recalls and how he still looks like he could be a new lieutenant in the RTU ;-) Thank you Steve!

@10percenttrue 2 года назад

Thanks, Patrick. Not sure whether Junior is still monitoring comments here, but will let him know about your response next time I message him.

@rsuminsby 2 года назад

Thanks Pat! You need to do an interview with Steve about the development of the GBU-28 during DESERT STORM!

@renopelletier4952 2 года назад

Nice job, Junior!

@shawnbillions1886 Год назад

Sacramento in here

@KernowekTim 2 года назад

Another excellent interview Steve. BTW, I managed to buy a brand new copy of your book on the F15E three weeks ago. I was very lucky to secure it. What an excellent book it surely is; a marvelously in-depth study, yet so readable and easily understandable for the 'average Joe' like myself. You certainly did 'the hard yards', and they most definitively payed dividends. Your book 'Boeing F15E Strike Eagle' is 'off the charts': a superb study. Thank you.

@stephenhampton7444 2 года назад

I love the F-15E mudhun so much really liked this video 😄

@10percenttrue 2 года назад

Thanks, Stephen. I am recording "Going to war in the Strike Eagle" this week - four dudes who took the jet to Desert Shield/Storm in 1990/91. Should be fun!

@stephenharrison7651 Год назад

Excellent Steve, keep up the good work.

@10percenttrue Год назад

Thanks, Stephen. Will try my best!

@singlesprocket 2 года назад

Great interview, thanks gentlemen. Had to split viewing into bite-size chunks it was so long but it was worth it. Would make a great updated edition of a book 😉. Could you co-interview a current/recent strike eagle driver/WSO? Would like to hear about SDB comparison etc.

@bcthomas2h90 2 года назад

A very informative interview with a lot of important information, and related in a straight-forward, interesting and sometimes hilarious dialogue. Well done!

@rsuminsby 2 года назад

Thanks, BC!

@juslee746 Год назад

Your videos are excellent in many ways. Very informative and I love the long format.

@justsmy5677 2 года назад

👍this brought back memories! Steve - long time no see. How have you been?

@10percenttrue 2 года назад

Mike? MQT Magot?

@justsmy5677 2 года назад

@@10percenttrue yes, Mike from our days at Lakenheath, early 2000s.😎

@10percenttrue 2 года назад

@@justsmy5677 Smy! email me! editor@10percenttrue.com

@guffroofing Год назад

Thank you

@gwizdolby Год назад

Grat stuff!

@markk364 4 месяца назад

I was not on that ship during vietnam!

@georgiogorge 2 года назад

This is a comment. Hooray!

@10percenttrue 2 года назад

🥇

@averagejoe1943 4 месяца назад

I wonder if he had StarBaby???

@SavageHenry0311 2 года назад

Al. Gore. Rhythm.

@sharizabel2582 Год назад

I think the only squadron that was cleared IMC TF was the one in AK.

@rsuminsby Год назад

I was initial cadre in that Sq as well. I remember flying TF in some pretty marginal weather conditions, but I don’t think we were approved for IMC. Might have come later.

@sharizabel2582 Год назад

I made it there in 2001