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F-4F KWS LV ICE - Bad Plane, Good Missiles [War Thunder] 

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@PvtPartzz
@PvtPartzz 2 месяца назад
I play this exclusively on Afghanistan in air sb and do pretty well with it. The radar is actually fantastic and when paired with the western RWR, it’s more competent than something like the Mig29G or SMT imo. That’s something I vehemently disagree with in this video- I think it currently has the best radar in the game. People really need to switch to the rectangular radar screen to get the full benefit of its quick scans and TWS angles. Sure, if you merge with someone and can’t disengage you’re going to have a bad time but again, stick to the mountains and that’s not too difficult.
@swordsman1_messer
@swordsman1_messer 2 месяца назад
Having played more extensively at 12.3 via the F-15, I think the issue is player mentality than the plane being lousy. A lot of the flaws of the plane can be mitigated through map knowledge, good target selection, and using hit and run slashes rather than staying in furballs. In the words of War Thunder’s greatest menace, “missiles don’t go through mountains”.
@erikkusters378
@erikkusters378 2 месяца назад
the only proplem this plane has is BR compression. its a fun plane to fly if you get downtiered or same tiered without any higher br planes in the match. but hey at least its not as bad of a suffer craft like the new tornado
@bagelmaster2498
@bagelmaster2498 Месяц назад
From the future after some of the compression changes, but my issue when looking at it is that if you look at the pound for pound against other planes it is worse in every metric. If you took myself in an f16c vs my self in the f4f ICE the f16c version will win every single time, and while there is a separation of the br doesn’t matter at the moment
@warthunderclipper
@warthunderclipper 2 месяца назад
Honestly, it’s stuck in a br compression dilemma If it goes up, it will be the same br as the maneuverable 13.0s with Fox 3s and suffer But it already gets uptiered there If it goes down to 12.3, it’ll get downtiered to 11.3 and eat everything up So it’s unfair either way
@Luisasophie163
@Luisasophie163 2 месяца назад
true
@LordTomi2011
@LordTomi2011 2 месяца назад
Yeah, honestly. I've been playing the F-15J a lot lately (both to grind the (M) and because it's isanely fun right now), and I'm sure the enemy team absolutely despises me, raining 7Ms and AAM-3s on them from above. F-14s deserve it, I have no sympathy for them, but the rest of them I kinda feel bad for how unfair it must feel for them. However, whenever there's an AV-8B+ on the enemy team, they are always the ones to shut me down. Now, if I absolutely hate something in one of the most powerful aircraft at that br, imagine what those poor 11.3s feel. Or just try to grind the french tt in the Mirage F1C-200, I ate an amraam without getting a single rwr ping one time.
@yamatokurusaki5790
@yamatokurusaki5790 2 месяца назад
​@@LordTomi2011i do have the invisible missiles too
@PvtPartzz
@PvtPartzz 2 месяца назад
As someone else already stated, we could just increase the top br to 13.3 or 13.7. This would negate those issues.
@warthunderclipper
@warthunderclipper 2 месяца назад
@@PvtPartzz yes
@Usurphlhen
@Usurphlhen 2 месяца назад
Personally I think the ICE is incredibly underrated b/c if you compare it to 13.0 planes it seems really weak but if you compare it to other 12.7s the only thing that might be better than it is the Gripen A. If Gaijin would increase the max br to 13.3 or 13.7 it would be in a much better spot but for now its not that bad
@yamatokurusaki5790
@yamatokurusaki5790 2 месяца назад
And any other aircraft
@hotdog3438
@hotdog3438 2 месяца назад
I feel the ICE gets too much hate. I currently only have AIM-9/I s and I get at least 2-3 kills per game. I have fought F15s F16s and even a mig29 and won only using guns and turn time. It's really just about knowing the plane and how it's energy holds.
@yamatokurusaki5790
@yamatokurusaki5790 2 месяца назад
More like how dumb are you enemies
@luuk341
@luuk341 16 дней назад
With the greatest respect. Your opponents in the F15, F16 and Mig29 were completely braindead then. If they remeber: "hold elevator up" the will completely dumpster this garbage fire of a plane
@zachthepizzaguy
@zachthepizzaguy 2 месяца назад
yay a ice review!!!!!
@timb3499
@timb3499 2 месяца назад
I was looking forward to this aircraft because I have had a good time with the EJ Kai, but it’s been a struggle and I have actually done better with the AV-8B in uptiers. The stock grind was not too bad once the bombs are unlocked.
@nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666
@nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666 2 месяца назад
i played as a rat and did extremely well
@budekman
@budekman Месяц назад
How to play as rat ?
@nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666
@nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666 Месяц назад
@@budekman yyes
@nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666
@nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666 Месяц назад
you basicly just zoom around the battle field and take pop shots at the enemy planes
@luuk341
@luuk341 Месяц назад
@@nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666 Thats just every game of warthunder. What does that even mean
@luuk341
@luuk341 Месяц назад
Its utter utter utter garbage. It is completely shit in everyway
@AuGTN01
@AuGTN01 2 месяца назад
The ICE is a hit or miss to me, i will say it depends on your teammates. You get people who can take the enemies attention and doesn't quickly die? You're set for the whole match, the AIM-9L/is' are great if you get in close and not turning too much. AIM-120As are a blast, i recommend using them in medium distance on high altitude targets In a great game I could get 3 kills minimum
@lbuunjj
@lbuunjj 29 дней назад
F4 Phantom is the peak of aviation
@SilverCobraWT
@SilverCobraWT 2 месяца назад
The best way to play this is to side climb, launch your AIM-120s, notch, and land, then repeat. It's more of a support aircraft with AIM-120s, and I usually get about three kills this way.
@sirbonobo3907
@sirbonobo3907 2 месяца назад
Sounds pretty boring. The Most fun are deffo gun only Jets
@diegowushu
@diegowushu Месяц назад
I'll never understand how anyone can find that fun. Prop 4 lyfe.
@m.s.1925
@m.s.1925 2 месяца назад
Can you make a review on the new cv9035dk from Sweden btw love your vids.
@world02ful
@world02ful Месяц назад
They added this to make me suffer
@GuffinMcGuffin
@GuffinMcGuffin 2 месяца назад
I want to try it for CAS. Germans don't have a good CAS plane right now.
@logicmaster756
@logicmaster756 2 месяца назад
AHh yes a missile bus is good enough
@ItzCPU_
@ItzCPU_ 2 месяца назад
From watching your gameplay you tend to fire a-lot from outside your missiles max range
@ItzCPU_
@ItzCPU_ 2 месяца назад
Aim9 from 4.8km is way too far, unless you’re basically in space
@solo-ch6ev
@solo-ch6ev Месяц назад
Is the mig 29g better or the f4 f4 ice line cuz I just want to grind one line the texh tree pls reply
@SoftPillow-qx9fo
@SoftPillow-qx9fo 2 месяца назад
Hot take: the ice is actually good. The reason why is it has a bad but still usable airframe and it has great missiles and a good gun tbh your just a missile truck but that doesn’t really matter if your used to other f4’s it will be a piece of cake to use
@frosty8183
@frosty8183 2 месяца назад
Compared to planes like the f15 and the flanker it is bad. Both of latter have better missile kits and much better flight performance overall.
@RaodyOPS
@RaodyOPS Месяц назад
I don’t wanna play top tier just to play like a fvcking rat… I grinded top tear to get the top gun experience and that’s what I expect to get
@brahthunder
@brahthunder 2 месяца назад
First
@ChillaRibbit
@ChillaRibbit 2 месяца назад
plane isn't bad. just be better pilot honestly
@luuk341
@luuk341 Месяц назад
Plane is garbage. Missiles are okay
@luuk341
@luuk341 16 дней назад
It really is just comparatively aweful. Literally everyting at its tier has better flight performance except maybe the Tornado
@11luismp
@11luismp 2 месяца назад
so basically the players are the problem trying to do things with a plane it clearly cant. among other things ofc like its BR but yeah.
@luuk341
@luuk341 Месяц назад
Yeah, the problem is that the ICE cant do anything that its competitors do except for strapping on and launching AMRAAMS. As soon as you are out of Amraams, you are useless. Yet, despite the thing being completely inferior in every way to other jets. it is still almost at the highest possible BR.
@7ThePrimagen
@7ThePrimagen Месяц назад
it's not that bad, there should really be more videos about it I feel like german players should stop bitching and just be happy we got a vehicle that carries fox 3s at all XD
@luuk341
@luuk341 Месяц назад
When we could have had a Dutch F16 or a Swiss F18. Yeah no
@7ThePrimagen
@7ThePrimagen Месяц назад
@@luuk341 well quit your bitchin either way I feel like common sense should have told you gaijin hates germany So we'll probably never get something like that XD
@sirbonobo3907
@sirbonobo3907 2 месяца назад
Still pretty Bad
@michaeldebondt1236
@michaeldebondt1236 2 месяца назад
Ime intrested in it but the grind of the belgian f16s and britsh tornado has me ocupied full...
@YF23BlackWidowll
@YF23BlackWidowll Месяц назад
I mean.. I like it but it sucks when you’re a German main and it’s the only thing you have. I am currently researching the su-17m2 trying to get the su27 for Russia 😅😅😅😅😢😢😢😢😢😢🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🤪🤪🤪🤪
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