Yes they're usually actually kind and very likeable in general. There really isn't like a group of "popular girls" it are mostly around 10 girls that everyone kinda knows about. I do live in Belguim so it may be different here
I think it's funny how the Fine Bros literally work and talk with teens much more frequently than the average joe and yet cannot write a teen character for the life of them. This movie feels more inaccurate than High School Musical.
Ink Rose but the difference is high school musical was supposed to feel that way, obviously there aren’t organized dance numbers when school gets out, that’s what’s great about it... this is just a horrible interpretation.
Cthonis Princess in movies they never display cringe , like omg it’s just hahahahahaaaaaa 😂 like what, most ppl will not look at that and be awkward about it , i mean they’ll be ppl who will laugh but not the whole school, most ppl won’t ever see it , like maybe 10 ppl max and i’m exaggerating 😂
I like to think they haven’t actually watched movie until the premiere, and after they did, deep down they hate it but can’t say that they do without upsetting anyone.
I really don't get the pants thing. Like one dude pants his friend in 8th grade and EVERYONE in our class was mad at the dude for embarrassing his friend. We were like 13
FairyLights Yeah also like everyone would... avoid the guy who pantsed him,, like I dunno about y’all but I wouldn’t stick near someone who’s notorious for pulling pants down
Very late reply! But a friend of mine got pantsed, EVERYONE apart from our friend group found it hilarious. The worst thing? That friend is disabled, and everyone knew that. Kids can be fucking evil, honestly.
I imagine if this happened at my school, my school is filled to the brim with hot Cheeto girls and selfish assholes, most people would laugh, except for a few select amount of people. Then someone would post it on their IG and we'd move and forget it ever happened within the next 30 seconds.
Cause they were the nerdy boys in high school who never got the girl. I'm so over male directors making high school seem like a zoo of popularity and play the feel sorry for the nerdy guy trope.
One detail in this movie that confused me is the fact that Maddy had a different hair style every day of high school. Who knows that many hair styles that you would never have to repeat one for 4 years of high school? That’s literally impossible.
Elisya Sinea I’m pretty sure she just wouldn’t wear the same hairstyle everyday. I think it she does a ponytail, she’ll do it only once a week, and then it’ll come back by the next week
Add on complaint: I hate movies that claim theyre relatable to all teen audiences but they forget that shy people exist. The exact thing that happens to shy people in highschool is being forgotten. We got forgotten from media too! Yaaay!
I highly recommend you watch Equestria Girls: Forgotten Friendship. I know it’s essentially My Little Pony, but it’s actually pretty good! The writing is good, the animation is great, and the lesson at the end of the movie is fantastic! It centers around a wallflower who erases the memories of a former bully with her new friends.
he was shunned because (bad this is a direct quote from the movie) he was too gay for the straights and to straight for the gays whatever the fuck that means
My school: Everyone lightheartedly makes fun of cheerleader stereotypes, there's no true 'it girl', Cliques aren't very defined and cookie cutter. F the Prom: *claps as cheerleaders enter the room*
I wish i could experience the loud applause like the one in the movie, most of times it will be just "Oh yeah, that one is popular girl, but whatever we need to get our homework send first." and then eventually forgot about the girls for the rest of the day. Don't sure how much relatable this is since i was talking about school experience based in Asia country.
I just can't get over the scene where those people are randomly talking to no one as the 'm&ms' go by. It's like a sad, awkward re-enactment of mean girls
It really annoys me when there is a character on the cheerleading team so the only thing they wear in the movie is a cheerleading uniform. Just because someone is on a team or in a club doesn’t mean that the team or club is their only personality trait.
Also the trope that boys on sports teams and cheerleaders even like each other like that. It might happen but like if it does now it’s just people trying to live out that trope on purpose.
Thayla May - I gotta agree with you. Napoleon reminded me of some of my “acquaintance” friends (outcasts who happen to be okay with the grunge scene teens) and the awkward outcasts no one knew how to talk to because they were that socially awkward and weird. Same with Pedro. Though, sadly, none of my classmates would have voted for him. :(
We need a teenage film/director prodigy to make a realistic high school film. Also comparing this film to Mean Girls and The Breakfast Club is blasphemous.
_I was homeschooled and don’t really know what public schools are like, but let’s make an exaggerated movie about teens going to a public high school :D_
*I'm home schooled and I don't know what public school is like plus I'm old so I'm not really down with the kids but sure, let's make a movie about 'realistic' but exaggerated life during high school
as a jewish person i found it funny honestly. kinda like how mort from family guy is just one big jewish stereotype. but i understand why it’s seen as offensive.
@@christina286 Yeah if that every happened I know most kids in my school be scared and mad At the person who did it becuase it’s just weird and makes everyone uncomfortable
movies like this are the reason why i had such a skewed vision of popularity and high school in general growing up. the reality for me is that no one really gives a shit, we're all just trying to pass. where i'm from, being popular just means you go to parties and have rich parents.
The fact that they compared this epic dumpster fire of a movie to mean girls is BLASPHEMY the plot made NO SENSE and I hated everything about it oh my g o d
And the fact that this was made by a home schooled. Look, I love FBE, been watching them for 8 years but I think they should've sticked with non-high school-related stuff.
Eddie at The LMV mean girls 2 was better in terms of movie plot than f the prom, i reckon. It had a solid ending and backing, considering its disney-filled cast (as in, they could get away with a couple less realistic points as probs just another disney-show-like gimmick anyway)
You know what confuses me. EVERY time in some of these movies? The outfits the popular characters wear. A lot of times they look like cross between something a child would wear and a costume for theatre. Sometimes the outfit is actually really cool looking other times it looks awful. But the thing is, you can usually NEVER find anyone who dresses like that in real life.
This movie is such a "How do you do, fellow kids?" failure. Everything about it is so BADLY DATED. It is so obviously written by someone who A)Never went to high school and B)Hasn't been "young" in at least a decade. Paw Paw really thought a cool teen comedy in the year of our lord 2018 needed jokes about pantsing and bra stuffing like it's 1990.
I don't even want a film that's totally relevant on the day that it's released because by the next week it'll be outdated. I watch movies for escapism... not to be reminded that other teenagers exist and also browse memes.
17:58 i'm a jew and forcing him to make out with her is the equivilant of me forcing a vegan to choke on raw meat, it's like if i'm keeping kosher and someone forces non kosher foods down my throat, they're forcing me to break my religious rules and beliefs.
I feel like that whole pure evil popular girl trope is done to give audience members who might have some resentment towards popular girls a fantasy world where the target for that anger actually deserves the hatred. In real life that anger is often sad and impotent because the person they hate, envy, or resent doesn't know their name and probably couldn't pick them out in a lineup.
Let's not forget that these movies encourage some crazy internalized misogyny in their female viewership. Like, how many of us went through that, "All girly things are rubbish, I'm not shallow like that, I only like GOOD stuff" stage? Popular evil girl tropes are almost entirely fictionalized, because generally IRL most popular girls are nice people, but these movies will never have that. (I also have a little pet theory that a lot of the people who work on these movies project their own rubbish HS experiences in writing high school characters, and the cycle continues)
Movies like these gave me a false perception on social status and highschool popularity. Like I went to a charter school all my life, now I'm in a public highschool I can say it's not like this at all.
I really wish the "Popular Bitch" trope would die. Most popular girls are popular because they're nice and have good personalities. And I knew a lot of popular girls in middle and high school who weren't even all that conventionally attractive; people just gravitated towards them because they were fun to be around. And, inversely, I knew of a lot of physically beautiful girls who didn't have boys eating out of their hand because they were either introverts or jerks. Not to say popular bullies don't exist. But these movies tend to paint pretty/popular girls in an unsettling, misogynistic light. And as an adult, you can see how a lot of these high school movies were written by bitter adult males who are projecting their hatred of chicks who spurned them in high school by portraying them as sluts/bitches/sociopaths/etc.
I was a freshman this year and I think it may have been the 2 week of school and one of my guy best friends got pantsed on the way to 5th period and legit no one laughed but the guy and his friends. A lot of people just looked at him with that "wtf?" Look. Some people even straight up told him that we aren't middle schoolers and that shit like that is pointless and childish.
julia cudney I walked in to my BF cheating (he’s a doctor) he said he was “inspecting her reflexes” FOR 30 MINUTES until I kicked him out of my house and broke up with him /and threw his stuff out\
In high school everyone just stayed in their groups and that doesn’t mean “goths/emo” or “cheerleader/football player” it’s basically just your friend group
I don't know about them but when will people learn the high school popularity is either one of two things one is that everybody knows your name but doesn't necessarily like you except for your own small click, so more or less they choose to ignore you so you kind of just become everybody else. Or two that you're actually genuinely a nice person and you may just have a variety of Interest so you end up with a large friend group or acquaintance group.
yesssss literally no popular girl at my school and other schools are mean they just have really tight nit groups that hang out a lot with the close nit group of boys like i feel like that was how old high school worked idk bullying still happens but yeah idk thats how i feel
I feel like these "popular" kids in these movies are all so odd. Like I dont think people tend to praise people who act as assholes? Idk about other people, but no one I know likes someone who acts so unnecessarily rude to everyone. Those people tend to be the most disliked vs the most popular?
You're right no one in high school acts like this. Honestly everyone considers the losers to be the people who are genuine assholes and not the "nerds/weird kids". Hell, in my school people were a little impressed if you were smarter than average. High schoolers aren't even really paying attention to popularity anymore. I mean you have the well liked kids but no one's really concerning themselves with where they fall on the "social hierarchy". Everyone kinda minds their own business.
Menfhis24 I agree, for the most part, the "nerds" are respected for being smart. You cant really hate someone for being smart, people just get impressed and amusrd at how they did so well on a test or a project or something. I feel like friend groups are a lot more personality based rather than social standings and people tend to keep to themselves *unless* soemone is being outwardly offensive. And yeah well liked kids or "popular" kids are just charismatic people who get along with people, they are liked because they are likeable and nice, not because they are snobby and rich
In my middle school, me and the people at my table started clapping (I don’t really remember why I started clapping) and everyone started clapping in the cafeteria and people continued it in high school. And that’s the closest thing it can relate it to.
One time near the end of my math class everyone was talking and one of my friends started clapping and we just gradually all started clapping for some reason. I genuinely don't know why we did that but for some reason it was so funny to me (were 7th graders, we're stupid asf)
Gemm Furnier In my experience the nice people ARE the popular people. In high school movies there are these super nasty „hot“ queen bee bully girls who despite their prima donna complex and entitlement everyone loves and worships. I don’t know about others, but in my school the popular guys are either genuinely nice or at least fake a nice personality. You would never be popular if you were so openly mean like some queen bee or jock characters in movies are.
Through my experience, the popular (jocks) usually won cause the only people who voted were them, or the outsiders that the popular teens were nice to. Everyone else didn’t care enough to vote or would write in their own candidate.
For my school the popular girls are pretty nice, there are bullies but they just *think* they’re cool. Nobody tries to hang out with people who suck, there are plenty of nicer people
Ok seriously?? No actual school has these 1980s stereotypes! Popular people are not worshipped, nerds aren't given nick-names and made fun of in front of the whole school, and there is NOT that much drama between human beings. My gosh, just get someone who's actually been to school to direct it. People are more likely to bust out singing "we're all in this together" in the gym than tar and feather someone in a photo booth.
High School Musical is absolutely what brings teen girls together today. It doesn't matter who you are if someone starts singing Fabulous then you're legally obligated to sing along and be friends with that person now
The sex humour with the adult characters is SO creepy. Why did the filmmakers think that it would be a good idea having adults acting sexual around what are meant to be minors? Gross.
As someone who has been homeschooled their entire life, and never got to experience school in general.. why would you want to write a movie about what being in high school is like??
real people with real friends and real flaws driven by character, rather than some flimsy plot about what high schoolers were conceived to be by some old dudes
Yeah, from my experience at high school, I can definitely ensure you all that most movies that are set in highschool is probably about 15% true. I’m not saying all highschool movies are unrealistic. But there’s not really the cliche mean popular group (if ur popular ur usually likable and friendly). Highschool is just filled with awkward conversations and boringness. That’s just me tho, highschool can be different for anyone
Dude, we call the druggies and "sluts" (men and women who dress and act as such) the "popular kids" for a lack of better word. It took me half of high school to realize that my friend group was the "popular" group since we're generally cool with everyone.
I watched like 10 minutes of this movie but then I quit. I couldn’t get into it. Also does anybody notice that Maddy instantly becomes popular without justification? There is no development with it and it just happens.
Honestly I can't speak for anyone else, but my High School has around 3,000 people in it. With that being said, literally no one is "popular" or "Queen Bee" like you have your own group in your graduating class. Like I'm a junior, and I don't know anything about popularity in the Sophomores or Freshmen. Public High Schools are getting bigger now and directors need to stop trying to outdo classics like Heathers and Mean Girls.
As a Jewish girl, let me just say that there are no laws in the Torah about premarital sex. So when the Jewish kid made that comment to the goth girl... just shows some REALLY poor research and understanding lmao oof
PrimaKittie Quick question, sorry if this sounds stupid, as I’m not Jewish. Because the fine bros were raised Orthodox Jewish could they have possibly been taught that when they were younger? Not defending them though, I think the whole schtick is unnecessary. I’m long past my HS years, but I had plenty of classmates who were Jewish (practicing) and none of them acted this way.
Wait, they're Jewish? Wow, okay. So, in truth, the Torah doesn't have anything prohibiting dating or premarital relations. That isn't to say the character's parents could've had a rule about him being a "good boy" but if the whole point is to make him the "Jewish kid" niche, then I sincerely have to question the directors' understanding of their own religion. Literally no one acts like that?? I.... I don't know what to say. It just doesn't add up.
Somehow I skipped over where you said Orthodox. This is a little more realistic for that lol but still it is way too overexaggerated and I don't know how most people let that slide tbh
Honestly one of the best portrayals of a HS popular girl was Spiderman: Homecoming. Liz was popular because she was genuinely a nice person and was really involved in the school. Like most popular girls I've met.
Lisbeth Rivera same low-key some of the worst popular people I've met were mostly men. And strangely enough, most of the nicer ones have been less popular men and "popular" girls. Edit: for my school
this movie is too old for our time, this is something you see in a 90s movie, nowadays students don't have 'popularity' or whatever like people just work and get high and make memes all day ya know
We had a kid from the special ed class who would go on the stage during lunch and toss his lunch box as high as he could and catch so we could all see and we’d applaud him, but that’s just cause everybody wanted him to feel good.
I feel so bad for poor Madeline Pesch. She keeps getting cast in all these shit shows and movies like this for example and Riverdale which I also still watch for some reason. I feel like she would be such a great actress can some one just please get her a good mean girl role so we can see her potential
Facts but her playing Cheryl is amazing with her character development and Cheryl dating Toni. But yeah. I rlly wish she could be cast in bigger and better roles that shows off her true potential
ok, I relate to this vid, but Superwoman was acting like she was in a video she makes on weird teachers. I have never seen anything else she's in movie wise, but the way she was in this movie definitely makes me think she thought the script was supposed to be a joke, too. Which may be why she acted like her character was a joke.
I guess she was a comic relief character, which is fine on its own, but since everyone else is also hilariously bad and super blown-out, she just doesn't fit.
I don't get this trope that teen shows and movies push that the popular kids are assholes. As someone who was definitely NOT popular, I can say that all the popular kids were popular because they were charismatic, outgoing, and generally well liked by most people.
it's just a tactic to get a more relatable main character. Most of the people watching this show aren't popular and the assumed notion that they're fanbases are made up of kids who feel alienated because they aren't popular. The most logical antagonist to that protagonist is those who are actually popular is to villify them and show them as assholes' whose only redeeming qualities are their surface level attractiveness and physical ability
goodgirl140 literally popularity doesn’t exist at my school. It’s the people that are actually really nice and genuinely sweet and there’s the people that choose to ignore everybody but their friend group. The last general type of person at my school are what I call roamers, they are just a part of every group and are really nice.
Wow. Honestly at my school, most of the popular kids are kinda asshole-ish and they kinda act like they’re better than everyone else, but whatever. It’s different for everyone. I really hate my high school though, so 😂🤷🏽♀️
