This is my first attempt at a video, and was done the night before a project on Lockheed Martin, so please don't be too picky over the messy transitions etc.
@newmanfrigan im from england and love our euro fighter, but being unbiased and witnessed the performance of the f22 over here, i can admit it is number 1 of the world, f35 i can say is awsome and glad we contributed to its manufacture..
The Soyuz/Tumansky R-15BD-300 is an axial flow, single shaft turbojet with afterburning capabilities. The engine provides massive thrust and high performance at altitude, but at a cost. At dry thrust the engine could produce 7,500 kilograms force (73.5 kN, 16,500 lbf); with afterburners the output is 11,200 kilograms force (110 kN, 24,700 lbf). This allowed speeds of up to mach 3.2 in the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25 (which used two engines).The MiG-25 was able to supercruise.
@torque2802 A multirole combat aircraft is an aircraft designed to act in at least two different roles in combat: 1. the primary role is usually a fighter-hence, it is as often called a multirole fighter. 2. the secondary role is usually air-to-surface attack. These two roles can be named "major roles". Sub-roles are Close Air Strikes, air interdiction, suppression of air defense, air recon, forward air control, electronic warfare.
@ISinisterI Remember the strategic reason for the Harrier's invention: Runways. You can't use conventional jets if the enemy bombs your runways; carriers are vulnerable to anti-ship missiles; and far-flung airbases add flight time to the theatre. If a nation has STOVL / VTOL capable planes (like F35s) that can operate from a makeshift airbase close to the front lines, that's a huge strategic advantage. They're like gunships, but jets, and can be hidden on the ground and moved wherever needed.
@benrodgers44 - Because, the Harrier was developed in the 1960's ( by the way, the U.S. Marines also use the Harrier in an American version and it TOO is subsonic ) and uses a turbo fan engine which is ducted through four exhaust vents - two on either side of the fuselage. These small duct openings are far too small to allow use of an afterburner and prevent the capacity to push supersonic EXCEPT in a dive. Where as the F-35 has a traditional wide open tail "turkey feather" exhaust.
@torque2802 And yes, it has been discontinued off the production line because it hit the limit of requests for 187. The reason why they took it off was NOT because of problems it was because of military spending cuts.
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@NatedogJr Yes, it's a multi-role fighter. It has to meet both threats. (Will the USN have anything better for air to air?) In my understanding, the F-35 is built to increase survivability when faced with increasingly lethal air and surface threats. If it cannot operate in hostile air space or confront new air to air threats, it hasn't addressed the shortcomings of the legacy fighters it will replace.
@2BarKawi The Wright brothers made their first successful test flights on 17 December 1903. Their flights are recognised by the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI), the standard setting and record-keeping body for aeronautics and astronautics, as "the first sustained and controlled heavier-than-air powered flight".[19] By 1905, the Wright Flyer III was capable of fully controllable, stable flight for substantial periods
Nice technology! STOVL flight, carrying lots of weapons, is a game-changer in places where we will have to fight in the future. Flying from well-conditioned protected air bases is often not available. This aircraft allows superior air power to be placed where it normally cannot, to do things that are difficult even in the best of conditions. I'm not so sure of the F-22's "boutique role" but this plane definitely has a place.
@4V14T10N No, the big wing C variant is for US Naval. UK is only interested in the vertical landing F35B variant, although the carrier landing regime has yet to be met, its not yet good enough...:(
@2BarKawi The first MILLITARY submarine was Turtle (1775), a hand-powered acorn-shaped device designed by the American David Bushnell to accommodate a single person. It was the first VERIFIED submarine capable of independent underwater operation and movement, and the first to use screws for propulsion. During the American Revolutionary War, Turtle (operated by Sgt. Ezra Lee, Continental Army) tried and failed to sink the British warship HMS Eagle
Lockheed consulted with Yakovlev engineers during the design phase of the F-35B's VTOL system. It wasn't a direct copy, but Yakovlev's experience with the Yak-141 definitely influenced the VTOL design of the F-35.
@EnglishTurbines The Joint Dual Role Air Dominance Missile or (JDRADM) is a scramjet missle that will be developed for both Air to Air and Air to Ground with a top speed of Mach 6 at altitude. The pilots found the F-35 loves to accelerate and go fast. And does a stealth aircraft that is a strike fighter need supercruise? If it did then why didn't we fit a B-2 to be as fast as a B-1R.
@EnglishTurbines Total orders are still speculation until final price is set, plus the type of involvement each country will partake in like parts production will affect the price of the JSF for each country. 2600 orders for all 3 variants together was the last we heard, but now there is interest from India, Israel and others plus the economy, most countries will take a wait and see approach. Canada has 1600+ employed and signed for parts production, this is why our government has given the ok.
@4V14T10N ...I think they have a vested interest in the B Variant of F35. For sure the Engine Lift System when you consider the USMC will have the F35B variant. Thats a lot of business for Rolls Royce from the USA.
@ResiusOnline I illustrated the differences between fly-away cost and development cost in my post. There was no need for you to argue that point. And, yes, it is just as effective. The F-15 has a 100% success rate in air superiority. You can't get better than that. So it is at the very least as effective.
@EnglishTurbines We should be on the same team, this is exciting for both our countries, lots of hard work has gone into this program. Canadian Developmental Avionics. yahoo baby!
@EnglishTurbines I doubt giving it canards would help improve manueverability. Its good at rolling but do you think it can do a powerful sudden posistive 8 to 9 gs without destroying itself? The Eurofighter can pull major g forces in seconds while from seeing certain vids of this aircraft the plane pitches slowly.
@FXWorldBeater I agree with you that legacy fighters won't do well against modern air defenses and that a VLO airframe will be important, but believe it has limitations on such a small plane. It will not prevent near-future air defense systems from locating the f-35. There are several VHF target acquisition radars on the market. These should get scattering in the resonant region and should see the f-35 very well.
@bliss0512 Cheers wasn't aware of that, suppose if there's all the radar tech to spot IED's etc from the air it follows on.. Pity tho because all these new stealth aircraft and Naval designs look really cool eh!!
@torque2802, the A-10 is suppose to be replaced in 2028. Nobody knows what CAS will look like. The Apache D block III ability allows the co pilot to control sensors on drones so it can engage in CAS from maximum missile distance or pass off the targets to other weapon systems such as artillery or even nearby tanks.
@torque2802, Yes. It looks like drones and helicopters will be the CAS vehicles of the future. There are several major flaws with jets and CAS. The two major ones are expense and timing. A lot of the expense in Afghanistan is due to jets providing CAS. The second problem is most CAS calls are called off because the enemy left before the jets got there. The loiter time for jets is about 15 minutes. The drones now can last 4-6 hours.
Hope they iron all the kinks out of this fighter. Excellent design and a great step up from the harrier. I being english would love the uk to adopt them to our air force.
@EnglishTurbines Well i wonder is it about the size and quantity, i mean to fit more jets or just because they have a lot of arangements and adjusting so that they trust that jet better and they know it better in and out.
@KARASAWA40 Thats right, I said that, I also quoted the S-400 SAM. I also said, "when the F35 runs the guantlet across a network of these SAMs, let me know.....The USAF cant account for future threats, for the simple reason they dont know what those threats might be, or who from, or what hardware those threats might use.
@newmanfrigan I agree, the best and the last that came from (post) Soviet Russia was the Mig-25. Our technology has metamaterial, stealth, the latest engine design concepts by lock-heed, and overall the best performance, people think that we throw out our plane designs the moment they're completed. Look at it this way everyone, the F-22 was thought up in 89, and it kicks ass, so in 2011, we're 30-40 years ahead of publicizing it to the world. Our military is 40 years ahead of the world!!!
No, it's clear Kopp isn't a fan, but he presented well founded and detailed arguments. Atm there is uncertainty surrounding what the final version of this plane will be, so ofc I will reserve final judgement until then. But the flaws I pointed out are pretty serious. But they'll resolve them as you claim, considering the insane money thrown at them....right? ;)
@Timsalt3100 the f-35 was the primary replacement for our Harriers. and if it does well enough we will look at replacing our F-18's. they also want to use the F-22 to replace F-16's, and F-15's but it isnt gonna happen.
There are common misconception about stealth techniques. Most people think it's a special type of skin coat that gets painted onto the Airframe surface. Thats only 1 way to stealth a jet & usually that's only done after the other techniques. First there is vehicle shaping, the most effective ways is with orthognal metal plates - dihedral or trihedral, 2nd planform alignment 3rd burying the engine in the wings or eliminating propellers, bumps or protrusions & burying turbines.
@nitojo7 Short operating ranges? The F-35B operates on internal fuel(which has the smallest by far due to fan) can go as far as an F-16 with 2 fuel tanks, the F-35C can exceed the F/A-18 SuperHornets in range. The F-35A has a gun, F-35C is looking to get a gun once the initial blocks are out and possibly the weight issue is fixed.
@OlderG0ds I agree that the technology has improved but so has the detection methods. Even the USA purchased the Tesla radar responsible for tracking the F 117 so I expect they have been developing it since then.
@torque2802, The A-10 was first made to take out Soviet tanks in Eastern Europe and then went on to peerform CAS missions. The air force has always hated CAS and that's why the A-10 has been on the chopping block so often and why the F-15's pitch was, "Not a pound for air to ground." The F-35 has an extremely limited abilty outside of air to air and bombing fixed targets. Without drones, the air force and navy won't be involved in CAS beyond 2028 because of the limited ability of the F-35.
@orlock20 so what your saying is that in about 2028 jets will be pure air to air combat vehicles and the military will hav new ways to provide precision fire support to ground troops?
The "One Plane that does all" More like the third, or fourth. The F-16 and F/A-18 are very popular because they can do it all, and they didn't even have 3 versions to spread out the work load. The F-35 will do it all, and do it better, seems like a good plan for success.
@EnglishTurbines Lockheed since 2007 have been talking to India about acquiring the F35 for their Navy. India has expressed interest in the F 35B or the F 35C depending on their carrier modifications. India would like to compliment the Su-30. Finally, I would like to see these ``comments`` about F-18 vs F 35, Americans seem to dislike? I know the Canadian public is interested in the purchase of 65 F-35s.
@TheARMAProductions There is actually 2+ T-50s at the mo. And have seen sources that say the F22 is vulnerable to rain and small arms fire. Yes the other projects are veiled in secrecy, but some info is availiable. Simulations of Sukhoi 35s against eurofighters came up badly for the EF2000, despite the 'jamming' the sukhois gout info from other sources to shoot them down. As much as I wish the best of luck to NATO and our projects, but from my sources, they are having problems (the F35 and F22).
@ISinisterI A UCAV is like a remote control plane isnt it so maybe its possible for a powerful country to disrupt the signal between transmitter and reciever. Just a thought. But i suppose you guys have already thought of this. No one wants a plane that the enemy might just flip a switch and make it crash or worse.
@EnglishTurbines The F-35 will get 6 internal weapons in Blk 3 or Blk 5. So that'd make it 4 Aim-120Ds and 2 Aim-9Xs, with the Eurofighter typhoon being forced to keep it's amraams until the F-35 gets close enough to be detected and locked onto meaning extra weight. And the Eurofighter will be constantly forced to be dodging Aim-120Ds until it's able to get the F-35 within Visual range.
@themadmek01 Actually..old and outdated is only a perception to a degree. The F-16 Block 60 has tremendous upgrades to it's airframe including additional space for much newer avionics. Also, with Block program upgrades ( Block 10, Block 20, Block 30 etc.....) it not only includes upgrades such as electronics but almost always includes engine upgrades as well. The F-16 could go far beyond what it currently is by expanding the F-16 XL test platform.
I said currently fielding, the J-20 and PAK-FA are not currently in use by their respective air forces. The F-35 is actually designed for a multi-role capability and meant to be able to handle fighting and bombing. Also, stealth planes, stealth plane avionics, and maintenance of stealth planes is expensive, but necessary for fifth gen fighters. The J-20 is already semi-outdated and less stealthy than other 5th gens. The F-22 and F-35 are currently the fighters on top.
@evildeathmonkey1 Actually, the STOVL / VTOL was being built for the Marines..not the Navy. The Navy is getting the F-35C which has larger wings with folding tips and a heavier undercarriage to support carrier landings. The STOVL / VTOL is the F-35B which is now on hold by Sec. Gates current budget cuts and to allow both the A nd C variants to get into production faster since they do not have the complex shaft driven lift fan assembly.
there are alot of detecting types and the stealth thats talked about is related only with some types of radars...EM using radars can detect this plane so easily but the cost is much ofc comparing to classic - usual radars
@NoOne3234 A Kopp fan I see. Kopp loves to push the whole lumpy underside line as well. The underside of the fuselage is designed to maximise its high AOA ability (53 degrees departure aoa at combat speeds, very impressive). What Kopp didn't account for is that the F-35 as you said has a very good EW system and excellent networking. The lumpy underside of the aircraft can be turned away from threat radars by subtley banking 5-10 degrees.
@mgdisthebest do they air maneuvers are restricted by the g force limit of the pilot not the plane itself. so yes planes without pilots can do more tricks than a one with a pilot
@nexus1g That incident was restricted to Guam, where the air is much more humid than in most other places. The F-22 is also a very new plane. It will take time to work out small bugs, but they will be worked out. That an F-15 isn't grounded by rain is due more to its 30+ years of service than its quality. By the time the F-22 is fully deployed and operational, the F-15 will be a thing of the past. And that day is fast approaching. You must have something better than a minor glitch.
@FXWorldBeater "existing fighters would meet requirements" Read the quote in context. If SAMs remain, it is no longer a low threat environment. Modern air defenses are really nasty and hard to dismantle.
Actually the F-35 utilized the Harrier lift system, although the turning nozzle is the same as the Yak the method of stabilizing the aircraft has evolved from the Harrier Everything to do with VTOL and STOL on the aircraft was from a British company BAE, they controlled that concept and the British defiantly did not copy the Yak
@EnglishTurbines Ok i got it, so is RAF planning to use STOVL on carriers but why not C variant are there to big in size for relaitvely small UK carriers(relatively to US carriers) and by small i am not meaning anyting rude... So with smaller jets RAF is planning to have more jets on a carrier? I mean is it about quantity...
@AlabamaSoldier Like I said, the F-22 has its pluses: an advanced sensor package for BVR fights, stealth, supercruise. It's the things that are wrong with it that make it a failure.
@TheARMAProductions Actually, the new engine is evidently much more efficient and cheaper. And, actually the F-35 isn't in trouble at all. Carswell and several other LM plants have begun installing assembly-line equipment, and are in the final testing stages on all versions of the plane. What gives you the impression that they're grounded? I saw three of the Carswell aircraft take off last week. They're behind schedule but most of the design kinks have been ironed out.
@WickedrWil The MiG-29 does not have thrust vectoring, only the OVT model had, but the standard MiG-29 does not. the Su-27 does not have, the Su-33 neither. The Su-37 was an experimental aircraft, not an operational one.
@FXWorldBeater Once detected, the f-35 will need to rely on electronic warfare and its VLO airframe to defeat fire control radar. My opinion of the f-35 swings heavily on how well the F-35 defeats the final stages of the kill. While the f-35's EW suite is impressive, systems are much more robust than they used to be so the question remains. The F-35 seems less optimized for all aspect stealth than the f-22 and has a lumpy underside, potentially undermining its effectiveness in this role.
AF F-22 fighter pilots say the exact same thing.The idea is to take out the targets before getting into any potential dog fighting range. It's really a marvelous air superiority fighter. The only problem is that if in a dog-fight situation, it really doesn't have much of an advantage over any aircraft like the Euro-fighter Typhoon. I expect that to be solved though.
I think you did a great job on the video. You should be proud of yourself. I have been following the progress of the F-35. I even have an RC model of one. Did you use Windows Movie Maker to make the video? Keep doing what you are doing. It looks great. Wayne
Wow 3 conflicts, numerous sorties and missions, flying into heavily defended airspace time after time and only one was lost, not bad at all. You are somewhat right that stealth alone may not be enough in the future, that's why i suggest you read up on the f35 and realize it is not just a stealth plane. The f117 was spotted 60km away at most when the bomb bay doors opened, now a days if you detect a stealth plane at that distance, you probably have seconds to live
@NatedogJr you have just given me a definition of multi role and air superiority fighters doesn't change the fact that the SU-27 is better in air-air combat than the F-35 which is what i said from the beginning so you saying all these definitions isn't really defending the F-35 more just a brochure for people looking to buy 1 and letting them know there should buy more
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