Face-off: Litter Robot 4 vs. M1 Neakasa! 

Glad it helped! If you have one or two cats, LR4 may stay cleaner longer. We have four, but we've always had two or three litter boxes running at the same time-and you see what we get, lol. The open design of the M1 versus the 360 dome just works better.

200 off! Might be my time to pick up another one too

I did the same! I grabbed 2😊

How much litter you guys use a month? My cats already used 40lbs in a couple weeks

How much was is on prime day?

That's awesome, hope you and yoru cats love it like we do!

Did you get it

Thanks!

Thanks!

get it :)

Glad it helped! I also have dealt with their customer service after purchase and so far so good! Plan to do another update soon and will include that

Great to hear you and the cats love it! Comment an update after a few months see how it is doing!

Thanks! Hope you and your cats like it.

Thansk for watching! Yes. everything you mentioned was well said and accurate to my own experience. That's exactly it-I've used them since LR1 until now despite the flaws and frustrations because nothing else was better. The M1 is actually the very first alternative option that convinced me to switch!

Thanks for watching! I’m glad the Litter-Robot works well for you! I’ve used it since the LR1 and have spent a lot on them. It works and is of high quality, but I think the main issue is the litter area being round and small. My cats often miss it, and the rotation ensures that any waste not dried by the litter will streak. I’m happy that I now have a better alternative with the M1! For the longest time, nothing could surpass the Litter-Robot for me, even with the issues I’ve had with it. I still have the LR4 running, so I might switch the litter to what you mentioned. However, I think my larger cats will still miss the smaller, round area, and it looks like they are using the M1 the majority of the time now. I’ve had this problem to varying degrees of inner messiness with the Litter-Robot liner since the LR1 in 2001. I’ve emailed Litter-Robot about almost every edition, tried different cats and foods, and even talked to people who stopped using the Litter-Robot because of the same issues. The design of the LR involves rotation, and if the poop is not completely dry, it will streak. I do not have this problem at all with the M1. There are zero issues with streaking, and since I can add more litter to the M1, it works better at drying the waste. The design also allows the cats more room to use the litter box, so they never miss the litter area liek they do with the LR4. Consequently, the poop is always dry, and since it doesn’t rotate, it never streaks. I also question teh Liner of teh LR4 , I showed in the video the other LR4 I have and teh liner is already tearing and that is about 1 month to maybe 2 months of use.

That is good to know they are incorporating feedback and updates! For most folks, it should not be an issue. I took the entire box apart and noticed a little on the inside. We have one cat that does pee high, so that is probably why. They are sending me those rubber lining stickers as well, and I will have a video of all that. I'm really glad to see they take the feedback! I still need to purchase another one as well. I really do like it and for teh first gen they did a great job on it!!

Bengals are awesome cats! I would love it if it were a stainless steel drum, or how about a carbon fiber surface! It could have some type of removable liner to make it easier to clean. I would be the first to try that if they did.

Litter robot shoud do a inner side of the box like that!

I was honestly surprised how well it worked too! And the open top is so nice and easy to clean. We use BoxiePro and also love PrettyKitty litter. I think the PrettyKitty tracked very little litter outside the box. I did find a small issue but spoke to Neakasa support, and it looks like they are aware and addressing it. I will do a video on that soon!

Thanks! I still use my LR4 too. I like having a few boxes running, especially if we are out for a while. But I will be purchasing another M1 or two, so the LR4 may end up being a backup. The open top design is much better for me and my cats, and it cleans the litter just as well as the LR. Time will tell how they hold up or how support is.

Depends on what the purpose is. I have health issues and appreciate the robot scoops after every use, even on days where I need to crawl into bed right after work. The cleaning (mine never gets that gross!) can be scheduled when I'm feeling up to it. My cats have a regular box, but they choose to use the robot exclusively. Also, one of my cats takes dust baths in the box. I'd prefer he do this in a clean box, and the robot ensures the box is always freshly scooped.

It does, but it's worth it to have a clean litter box after every use, so I don't have to see the mess and the cats walk into a clean box. Both LR4 and M1 are great; the open design of the M1 works better for me and is super easy to spot clean and even deep clean

I use Boxie Pro amzn.to/3Ska7R4 Maybe give PrettyLitter a try. We used that for a long time, and I think it has very little dust or tracking because it is silica gel crystals. It even monitors the cat's health by the color once they use it. Just be sure to get the clumping version.

@@OTFCR and what about any dust in the surrounding area after weeks of use of the M1? That's our biggest concern

@@wokowuku4583 I don't really have an issue with it. I think give the PrettyLitter a try with a really cheap regular open litter box to see what you think before getting the M1. PrettyLitter is a 99% dust-free litter

I’ve tried a lot of different options. Like I mentioned, I’ve had the Litter-Robot since the original model in 2001. I've had different cats, used various foods, and even know others who stopped using them due to similar issues and plenty of threads online about it. It seems to be a design problem: it rotates, so any non-clumped, not-fully-dried waste can cause problems. Additionally, it has more areas to clean. If it works for someone else and they don’t experience the mess, it’s a great-quality box with excellent support. However, I’ve found that the open top and the way the M1 actually moves to clean the litter work much better for me. Right from the start the M1 worked perfect with the litter I use, the default time delay is spot on and I have no mess after a cycle.

I did call support and spoke to someone right away and they were also great with follow up. That was just one experince so who knows long term.

Nice! Glad it is working for you. Woudl be curious how you like it after a few months !

Oh, that's great! I'm really curious to hear how you and your cats like it, and if you encounter any issues. I'd love updates on your experience, whether positive or negative, but hopefully, it works out well for you! I haven't tried the Popur because I'm not a fan of the accordion feature on it for some reason. Maybe I should give it a try and compare all three, haha! I do like the few parts of the M1. As it cycles, it sort of pauses here and there to shake the litter! Brilliant

@@OTFCR it just got here today and I set it up. I noticed it also does the “auto-cover” thing where it tilts forward and back to try to make sure the 💩 is covered with litter! What a smart idea! They used it immediately and I don’t think they’ve gone in the litter robot since the new one has been set up. They are big 13.5 lb ragdolls so the open design seems much more comfortable for them. In another review they mentioned that the trap door above the waste bin could potentially get soiled and pull gunk into the machine. He put brush style weather stripping around the top of the trap door to help push anything off the door that might have accidentally ended up on there. I ordered some to do the same thing. Replacing weather stripping is much easier than opening up and cleaning the whole machine.

@@katiegraham6149 That is a good idea with the brush style weather stripping; I may look into that myself! I really haven’t had a big issue with that, but I did open the entire box to see what was inside. I will be posting a video on that. When you clean, make sure to clean the trap door as well. Also, it sounds like Neakasa will be making improvements to the M1 based on feedback, so that is great to see! Comment in a few months , would like to know how it is going with the M1 after soem time has passed!

Hi! Thanks for watching! I’m genuinely glad that you and your cats are happy with the Litter Robot! This is just my experience and preference, and others may have different experiences. But as long as our feline friends are happy and healthy that is all good! The Litter Robot is a very solid machine that I have used since it came out in 2000. I’ve used it with different cats, different food, and different litters, and through it all, I still had the streaking on the inside issue. However, I continued using the LR because, like you said, it was still the best option-a quality product with amazing support that has been in the market for 24 years-and something I could deal with, as nothing is perfect. The sticking and streaking have been common complaints over the years. There are plenty of other reports from users about experiencing issues with waste streaks inside the Litter Robot. Some users have suggested using sprays to help prevent waste from sticking to the Litter Robot's inner lining, such as clear silicone spray to create a non-stick barrier, although this solution only worked for a few days. Other users have mentioned trying hydrophobic solutions like Liquid Off or NeverWet, which are designed to repel moisture and might help with the sticking issue. Additionally, there are commercial non-stick sprays specifically designed for litter boxes, such as Litter Care and Lady N-Non-Stick Cat Litter Box Spray, which some users claimed were effective in reducing sticking. I know other folks who stopped using the Litter Robots for the same reason I listed about the inner lining and streaking. I even got confirmation from several people before making the video that this was a big issue and a negative reason for why they won’t buy another one. I would love to see Litter Robot address this complaint. Our cats see the vet and they are extremely healthy, never had an issue. I feed my cats very good food! Fromm for dry food and Weruva B.F.F. for wet, with the proper recommended daily amount. Fromm frommfamily.com/products/cat?Animal=cat&Query=&LifeStage=&BreedSize=&RecipeType=&Attributes=&Protein=&ProductLine=&ProductTag=&Sort=4 Weruva B.F.F www.weruva.com/pages/best-feline-friend?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhb60BhClARIsABGGtw8jf-4pDV0CWGKOF-G-WA1mEYv1fqaeGfaoFVHeNL_8JpQaErZVpvQaAsMgEALw_wcB

I feel with my cats, the litter outside the box is about the same. The Litter Robot offers great support and a warranty that has been proven for 20 years, so that is a big plus. I can say I have been in contact with Neato support after purchase to see how it is, and so far they have been very responsive and easy to get a hold of, so that could be a good sign.

Thank you for watching the video and subscribing! I appreciate that! I give my cats only 1 can of Weruva BFF wet food split between the 4 cats per day- so very little. As for litter, I've tried nearly every brand on the market! Currently, I'm using Boxie-Pro by Boxie, a premium litter that has won several awards. However, regardless of the reason, I don't have to worry about it at all with M1 Neakasa, Since it's not a 360-degree rotating globe, that's why it's my preferred choice. Others may do perfectly fine with LR; it just hasn't been my experience since LR1. Maybe I just have always had big, messy cats! 😄

​@@OTFCRthat's right.

That is a really good price!

It isn't an issue with our cats. They see the vet regularly, are always healthy, and we feed them top-quality food. The problem seems to be with the Litter-Robot 4's rotating design. Any non-clumped, not-fully-dried waste can cause problems, and there are plenty of threads online where people have tried other methods, like spraying non-stick solutions over the lining. This has been an issue since the Litter-Robot 1, regardless of the cats, food, or litter used. With the Litter-Robot M1, I’ve had zero issues-same litter, same food.

@@OTFCRI’ve been using two for over two years. The only time mine get really messy is diarrhoa, bad litter or too short a delay on the cycling. I’ve done a huge amount of testing and numerous videos about self cleaning litter boxes. I also have 7 cats using them.

7 cats! Nice! Yeah, if the Litter-Robot works for someone, that’s great! I still consider it a quality box with excellent support. For whatever reason, these issues I have had (an dothers I know) with Liteer Robot since LR1 have not been a problem at all with the Neakasa M1 which just was more a set up and forget (well clean , add litter etc) . So naturally, that’s why the M1 is my pick , but everyone’s situation and every cat are different. What might be right for me might not be right for you, It takes different strokes, yes diff....... Yes, I started singing "Different Strokes" in my head as I was typing, so now it will be stuck in my head all day! :)

I warned you! lol

I can, that may be good to do a video on. Also, I have another video of the M1 where I unbox, set up and show it cycle, but in this video, I just wanted to compare some of important points.

Hi , Thansk for watching! Diets are fine. They see the vets regularly and are fed Fromm dry premium and Weruva wet food, getting the recommended daily amount. The issue seems to be the small litter area, the cats occasionally missing it, and the liner not being ideal for sliding, along with the fact that the globe rotates. Others online have reported similar issues, with some even going as far as spraying non-stick stuff on the liner (which I have never done). I’ve had this problem to varying degrees with the Litter-Robot liner since the LR1 in 2001. I’ve emailed Litter-Robot about almost every edition, tried different cats and foods, and even talked to people who stopped using the Litter-Robot because of the same issues. The design of the LR is smaller round litter area that my larger cats tend to miss a little, cleaning cycle involves rotation, and if the poop is not completely dry, it will streak.

Glad your cat loves the M1! Ours took to it right away as well. Not fully closed? Do you mean where the gears are, and you remove the pieces to take off the globe?

LOL, I'm not sponsored at all; I bought the M1 myself during the Indiegogo campaign as contributor 1014 on October 19th, 2023. It's nice that you think M1 would sponsor my little channel! Even if they did, I never filter my thoughts; if something sucked, I'd say so. I'm not seeking sponsors; I do this for fun in my spare time and anything you see I bought. Also, your assumption that I cleaned the M1 before the video just proves my point. Both boxes were cleaned at the same time and then left alone for the cats to use for the same length of time (thought I mentioned that in the video). That was an unfiltered look at what the Litter Robot and M1 looked like after being cleaned and with several days of use afterward. Now you can clearly see why I picked the M1! I speak my mind because it hurts to bite my tongue \m/ \m/

With all due respect to @OTFCR, he only has 44 subscribers and < 3000 views on this video as of this comment (I hope to see your channel count grow! RU-vid is a grind, but these non-bias videos will definitely help!). This channel doesn't have enough reach (yet) to justify a sponsorship. @OTFCR - Thanks for posting this review! Very informative!

@@michaelhansen1316 You are 100% correct, and no offense taken at all! I know the big channels put a ton of time and effort into building a channel. I do this for fun; I'm not on any schedule to post videos and don't even know what I'll post next, as I have a decent work schedule outside of this. (I don't even ask folks to like and subscribe during the videos.) Some videos are better than others, lol. But yeah, no one is going to give me anything or sponsor me :). Thanks for watching!