Kakashi actually mentions Obitos name in episode 81 of the first Naruto series, so yea I think the writers already had an idea of where they were going with the story long term. But none of us even realized it at the time.
He's actually mentionned before that. During the Third's funeral (episode 80) he went to the grave stone and met the Anbu girl. She asked if he came because of Obito.
what's clever in Tobi = Obito is that Kishimoto knew that the very moment the "reveal" would appear (and TONS of people guessed it), the question would switch instantly and the mystery will still be there. it's not about WHO is the masked man, it's about WHY. Why you Obito ? What happened to you, who finally became Kakashi's friend, YOU the hero of Kannabi bridge battle who died tragically as a youngster, never having confessed your love ?
Still most people knew it was obito from long before the reveal happened... it did have impact but it could have had so much more if it had been an actual surprise...
Yea, i remember back in early manga days of 09, 10 people were constantly talkin about this. A lotta people already assumed Obito, but it seemed so obvious that people made up other theories in the meantime because it couldn’t be THAT obvious, right?
@@tomato2517 I was one of those... a friend kept telling me it is obito and i kept telling him... it is waaaay too obvious... they wouldn't be dumb enough to make it so... still made sense but it felt disappointing...
@@jorgitosilva i like obito a lot and the character of obito masquerading as Madara, so i dont mind it, but yeah it was way too obvious They teased it for too long that it was so obvious. I dont mind the twist, but the way they wrote it was obvious. They placed the Kakashi Gaiden right before tobi appeared, they showed Kakashi lookin into Obito’s sharingan during the Sasuke-Itachi arc, Obito says ‘Kakashi’s Mangekyo won’t work on him’ (so obvious), etc.
Tobi being Obito was even more obvious in the manga. Right after Kakashi Gaiden, a panel of Tobi was immediately shown. For the longest time, the fandom refused to believe it, and would come up with a ton of crazy theories. Even absurd ones like evil Naruto from the future.
Adonis gave a pretty good argument for it being obvious in the anime, too. In the anime, the kakashi gaiden adaptation comes right before the reveal that Tobi's an Uchiha.
5:15 You can see the exact moment Devi realizes something's up with this flashback. Probably never even crossed their minds because Obito became such a different person.
It makes you think there was a moment when you know Obito was chilling in his time space and then out of nowhere Deidara’s arm smack Obito on top of the head. Then and there Obito was probably thinking, “Da fawk. Hmmm, looks like Deidara has been disarmed”.
@@purecrisis8618 i sometimes meet those imaginary scenes in fanfic 😂 in one fanfic obito watching the rocket soar and dissappear in kamui's sky like watching comet, in other the rocket pulverize his make-shift hammock inside kamui 😂😂
just to clarify since a lot of people misunderstand this obito saying he didn't come back to konoha because rin died, he is not saying that's why he is trying to put the world in a genjutsu.
That feeling Devi describes of not wanting to believe it's Obito when it becomes increasingly obvious that it is because of what he means to you is good writing from the series, I think, because it's the exact same feeling Kakashi has. Kakashi pieces it together as soon as Tobi reveals he got his Sharingan from the battle of Kanabi Bridge, but wants DESPERATELY not to believe it.
Devi is so spot on about the writing and it being Obito. Same reason I wasn’t shocked that Madara stayed alive after the reanimation release. It wouldn’t make since for the main character (Naruto) not battle the strongest villain 🤷🏾♂️
There is a strong genetic component to mental illness with the Uchiha. The world would've been a much safer place if the Uchiha developed their therapy skills as much as they developed their jutsu. Can't wait for your guys' reaction to episode 345! It's my fav episode of the whole series!
You know a reaction video is amazing when they make you reawaken all your feelings and more from when you first watched these episodes. You both do this in every episode. This is why you both are my favorite!!!
OMG YES 😭I just found out about y’all yesterday and I watched all the deaths and sad scenes to see y’all reactions and I’m glad I found y’all 🙏 more PAIN COMING SOON
There will be more pain, more confusion, more hype, more strings and it'll end with an epic battle😂 cant wait to see their emotions going on a rollercoaster in these next episodes
Obito has literally been playing as 3 different characters the whole time, man is actually insane both in terms of psychology and his skill as a shinobi
Your theory was correct about Obito’s Mangekyo abilities. Obito has close range Kamui and Kakashi’s eye has long range Kamui. His eyes are strong even while separated, but as Itachi has stated in the past: together they could be more… If he never gave his left eye away, Obito would have won the war.
well, kinda, on one hand, kakashi would be 100% dead without the sharingan. rin would probably explode inside the village as well, taking out many people. without kakashi, naruto might've not even become a genin, and if he did, its also possible that he would've died in one of the missions, specially if they got the first "real" mission.
If I'm not mistaken, in OG Naruto, Kakashi mentioned something about Obito to Karenai and Asuma. It was in the episode that Itachi and Kisame were in Konoha.
you're really good at breaking things down the fact that you had an idea that White Zetsu had a part in prong longing Madara''s life span through Hashirama cells and Obito being saved by Madara at this point is really good.
i really love you guys reactions. i love how you two couldn't believe that the masked man is obito. i laugh so hard when she starting to realize and change her expression in mid flashback. lmao.
What the all knowing say about sharingan is not related Obito it's related to Madara. Obito became a villain because his love died and Madara offered him a way out from his misery , by creating a fantasy world where everybody is alive and happy. So obito agreed to help him. The all knowing explain how a person like Madara comes about.
This is still one of my favorite episode of the anime. The build up, the soundtrack, the intelligence of Kakashi, of course Naruto being Naruto. "You're!" --- "UZUMAKI NARUTO!" and of course, the entrance of the GOAT.
When the manga was coming out, there was a laughed at theory that TOBI = OBITO, and it was really just based on name similarity. People were like "You really think it'd be something as simple as that???lol" You'll love as they reveal the Obito story, can't wait!
I remember that theory was a hot topic between a friend of mine and I back in middle school. We both believed it couldn't be Obito because it would've been too simple (or so we thought). So we came up with our own theories: he thought it was Sasuke's dad and I thought it was Izuna (Madara's brother). I still remember how surprised we were when the chapter was released lol, we were both overthinking it.
I always like to see how long it takes some people realize that Tobi was Obito. Some figure it out perty fast because the Kakashi Gaiden episodes comes out around the same time we see Tobi's sharingan & we first see him teleport by swirling away the same Kakashi's mangeyko sharingan does.
As a manga reader back then it was harder for me because the Kakashi gaiden was put in right after part one Naruto ended and before shippuden started in the manga
@@quentinjones6877 I know . It would have been better if they watched the two episodes first then go back to episode 1; which the series should have done.
Bro look how scared she was when she saw the split face reveal. She starting breathing fast for a min lol. I’m not gonna lie my heart was racist just a bit too cause that flashback was giving an unbelievable hint
Dayummm wtf is this some kind of jackpot or something? I woke up at 6 in the morning and saw the notification of the previous episode and then went to gym and thought that i will watch it while doing breakfast and then when i got out of the gym i saw notification of this video and i was like wtffffffffffff man .... ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Thanks for this... Made my day
zetsu are made out of hashirama cells so obito having hashirama cells could take an arm from a zetsu and put it on his own. obito has said and shown multiple times that he had hashirama cells, also obito was 14-15 when he was fighting minato and took nine tails
you cant blame them theyre binge watching it unlike us back then we have the oppurtunity to theorize longer..thats the disadvantage of binge watching you cant process all the info because youll tend to forget some small significant infos
Madara is literally the biggest menace in anime 🤣 kishimoto was like: let me introduce you to a villain who doesn't know the meaning of giving a f**k lol
These two have some really good analysis, and many of their guesses are on point. I would love to see them do a Detective Conan anime reaction. They might be able to solve the cases faster than the plot reveals.
Her reaction was like all of us who read the chapter... the fated fucking chapter 599. Sawyer7Mage's reaction to chapter 599 is probably the most crushing, his reaction is almost the exact feeling we all felt and reminds me of yours 😂
to think of it it was obito all the time,,, the man behind the mask, the man behind the death of yellow flash, the man behind the nine tails attack, the man behind the Akatsuki. he goes by many names, tobi, madara, obito..
I thought as you guys had seen a similarity in kakashi's jutsu and it's been so long that maybe you would deduce who was behind the mask. But they were successfully tricked. Caught in Tobi's genjutsu! I remember when the manga was coming out and the theories about who was behind the mask. I was on the "I still believe Tobi is Obito" team, even after he said he was Madara. But the question is why and how XD?
I love how everyone watching the anime at the time already guessed it was Obito since Kakashi Chronicles came out in like 2009 or something... but these two only realised in the last second hahaha I really wish I were u in when this came out... in like 2015 haha (we already knew for 6 years yes)
Tobi, Obito. (play on words) When they introduced Tobi, I have a strong feeling that that's Obito, especially when his mask only show the side that was crushed.
The timeline in Naruto is a bit messed up. There is not a lot of time between the first hokage and the fifth. Hiruzen was a genin(around 12) when both Hashirama and Tobirama were alive. Madara would be a maximum of 100 years old around the time of the second ninja war.
Even though you can tell that Kishimoto had planned for Obito to be the one behind the mask from the beginning, the plot still has A LOT of holes in it.
