I think it is because most heroes can't seem to grasp the idea that Batman does not know everything or makes mistakes. I mean it also doesn't help that Batman hardly if ever admits to when he doesn't know or when he screws up.
@@jokerhalo1 when ask if he don't know, he won't really deniy that he don't know. Everybody just seam to blame batman for shit that is mostly never his foul.
Despite being a Batman fan, I believe everyone, or at least most people blame Batman for these things because Batman was the first to involve children in his crime fighting crusade, at least in the DC Universe. Over the years, Batman's crusade has led people to become his rogue's gallery. It has led his allies to be severely injured, killed, and/or quitting. It has also led the members of the Justice League to not trust him for when he created contingency plans to defeat them without their consent. Besides his good qualities to what he brings to the Justice League and keeping Gotham safe, these actions have proven that he can not be trusted. Yes, this can be said for the Flash or any other super hero with sidekicks and loved ones, but they always point to Batman first.
To me it seems they blame him because he doesn't tell the full truth to all the heroes or leave things alone if he didn't try to peer into the darkness the whole DC Metal event wouldn't have happened and it happened because he got too curious about the darkness after his "near" death crisis after fighting Joker. So that's why I think most if not all the heroes blame Batman there could be other reasons but I think the main two are his over curiosity and his ability to not tell the truth in full.
"At least I never forgot one of my partners existed!" Geez. Batman is the best at everything. Solving mysteries, having the best rogue gallery, throwing shade.
If Barry is fighting with a calm cool head he could easily best Batman. Most times Batman wins is because Barry is mind controlled, not himself, angry, upset or what ever. A normal Barry could easily run circles around Bruce. Also for heavens sake Batman or superman could easily create a serum that removes powers so Gotham girl can live a normal life. I mean if superman can create serums/pills do people can have HIS powers he could easily create one that is reversed and remove powers
It depends if how much time he has on the spot like the fight they just had Batman gets destroyed but if Batman has about an hour he'd figure something out
Batman is just human... So are his other counterparts like Batman Who Laughs. It seems Batman Who Laughs is invincible because they think of him as a human, so no killing. Wonder Woman doesn't have the same ideology so look at his skull on the cover of Death Metal.
I’ve enjoyed this storyline a lot. I love Wally West’s character, but I’m not sure I want what happened reversed anytime soon, the impact that it had on me.
Benny! Listen I got a good what if story. What if instead of Billy becoming the champion somehow Batman became him instead that would be amazing! Just imagine the costume.
Batman would have died, he does not shy away from death, however he does what he can to help a person come to their sense before making that final decision to kill. And Wally died doing what he loved best, helping people, and it also reminded him of his family especially his kids.
I'm a little surprised batman wouldn't have better defenses considering his last fight with the Reverse Flash left him at a disadvantage. But then again he is in a fatigued state. But he did put his mask back on in preparation of Barry's reaction...so maybe the lasers were a distraction to prep an offensive defense?
@@nerdlord7209 the parents or a parental figure (the kents) to my knowledge are dead Batman, Superman, flash, Martian manhunter(his entire family) so what do you mean by they come back in reboots?
I think Benny one this one... because we all stuck to the end of the video btw I think batman could win, not because skill or powers, but because he's right. No amount of power can undo Barry forgetting Wally, and Batman having had his family maimed, brainwashed, corrupter or killed never forgets them.
Personally I believe after the events of "The Button" Batman Would've had a better speedster security system installed. Like retrofitting a captian cold cold blaster into it. So that what thawn did wouldn't happen again.
Just a fist moving bullet speed would be a nasty impact on the face. Will be no face, and to think he is way faster than any bullet. Probably disintegrate Batman.... lol
Flash has moved faster than instantaneous. There would be no way to record the motion of the punch. It would just be one instant nothing and the next "oh I see the problem, there's a fist where your brain should be"
Another excellent reading, Benny! It really sucks that yet again DC gave us the comicbook version of 'clickbait' by promising a fight only for it to be a falling out, though. As for who would've won, that's an interesting thought. Putting aside any personal thoughts of who would've won, I...actually am not sure. A lot of people are saying the Flash would've won, and yeah, Flash clearly had the upper hand since he got the drop on Batman, but at the same time, he did the worst thing any hero can do, he lost his composure completely for a moment there. Yeah, he did managed to stop himself, but if he hadn't, it's hard to say where it would've gone. Also Batman...we don't often see him lose his temper and snap at someone quite like that (Though I'm shocked he handled himself so well given everything he's been through recently), but he did seem to keep his head better than Flash did, even having the sense to prioritise pulling his cowl back on (For some sense protection, I presume, though who knows what good it'd do at such speeds.) rather than using the few seconds the cave was defending him to launch any sort of attack, so if one factors the emotional states of each of them in that moment into this, Flash did have the upper hand, but Batman, as much as I like him, is sort of a jerk, and I wouldn't put it past him to take advantage of Flash's emotional state if they HAD fought as a means to gain the upper hand. Again, not sure who would win, though Flash had the odds in his favour apart from his emotional state and general composure.. (If you're reading this, hi! Blame Insomnia and exhaustion for this thesis-like wall of text. :P )
Batman knows all of the Justice League's weaknesses especially Flash so I say Batman would win even if flash killed him that man will have a trick up his sleeve
I'm just gonna put this out there. You guys ever noticed that the comics are saying reverse flash was the only one at the scene of Barry's mother's death. And the cw flash tv show comes in says that flash AND eobard were at the scene of her death.
In all reality? I don't think it's any one's Fault. IF they don't bring these kids in then they will simply do so themselves and that would just result in MORE Hero Deaths then what happens already. If Batman is a fault for ANYTHING it's the fact he doesn't have a dedicated training facility and a team to bring these new Hero's up-to-speed before they go out to fight crime. Really? the Justice League is only there for the seasoned Hero's who have been fighting Crime for a LOOONG time.
I agree but flash always been to emotional about things as Batman calm an reasonable try figure out please backlash since DC metal getting dump what happens to nightwing is cause him slip up hard enough I don't get why everyone blame him hell rehab for former heroes were whole league idea not Batman alone an I find it funny among all they blame someone who is just a mortal man with no power magic alien tech or magical item
@@dinkcrab2427 true, but put yourself in the Flashes shoes: he lost someone he considered a son in all but blood, how would you feel? Batman is trying to go about this the calm way.....but I don't think in this case Calm won't help.
I couldn’t help but notice that there was a ‘the usual suspects’ reference in this story. You know the one with batman and making people think he had a plan?
I don't feel like Batman thought Flash would've hit him. Per his "always planning for the future" thing, I think they'd have him have had proper countermeasures of SOME kind for Flash.
The flash would have owned this fight. Look what Prof. Zoom did to Batman even though he caught Batman off guard. Prof. Zoom is slower than Barry. And as Barry said in this issue, He could havd punched Batman 100 times before he even realized it.
Batman is that one person out of all the superheroes that is the one who you blame because he's the one who's going to take it all in a use it for fuel unlike most of them. Batman is the shadow that the world needs. But let's be honest Batman causes so much chaos but in return he also saves so many it's really a give or take with him even he's the cause or he's the reason the chaos ended 🤦🏽♂️😂 sometimes he's both.
I think Batman held back when flash was angry at him and if they where to fight always remember this is Batman he always has a plan the thing that separates him from everyone else is his compassion for all the loses in his life that he is not willing to take anyone’s life unless he has to but to me Superman will always be the greatest hero
agreed I'm a batman fanboy myself... But Flash would have annihilated poor Batsy if he didn't hold back. It's the difference between pushing the limits of human physiology and pushing the limits of the universe. Flash is faster than instantaneous. Imagine getting punched so hard and so fast that according to all known measures of recording, the only evidence you were punched is that one instant you're fine and the next there's a fist embedded where your skull should be.
Is a fight if flash gonna win, because don't make difference win or lose this kind of fight batman dont try much harder win probably gonna lose in one punch
I think its time we see flash get an edgier behavior in the main timeline, hes too op of a character to not have one with all the shit going on, it would be pretty cool seeing him not hold back on ppl, idk whats going on atm but this story is awesome so far
Flash EXPOSED Batman for the fraud he is. This is why he need prep-time to win. Batmans victories came from planning. He looses a lot to his villains before he makes a plan to win. Bane. The Talons. Joker. Barry should have just beat his ass like Thawne did.
If you want to see how a Batman versus Flash fight would turn out all you have to do is look at the fight between reverse flash and Batman at the beginning of the button storyline
Ok, this one is too easy, BECAUSE BRUCE ALREADY SAID IT TO SUPERMAN. "I'm only human" in regards to his weakness to Superman, after showing all the weaknesses he'd been collecting like a creepy weirdo. The Flash had already closed in on Batman before any counter measures had succeeded, thus, the question would have been "Could Batman hold off The Flash in a melee fight long enough for a stopping agent to take effect?" The answer is no. Batman's only human. I couldn't delay The Flash if I was in hardcore instinctive survival mode. Neither could he.
yeah flash hands down there is really not much batman can do unless he had a lot of time(with the flash its some thing batman does not have ) and still even with the power of set up the flash is a detective him self with his skills and speed he is on another level hints why batman fights normal bad guys to were flash always battles super bad guys
I'm a batman fanboy myself... But Flash would have annihilated poor Batsy if he didn't hold back. It's the difference between pushing the limits of human physiology and pushing the limits of the universe. Flash is faster than instantaneous. Imagine getting punched so hard and so fast that according to all known measures of recording, the only evidence you were punched is that one instant you're fine and the next there's a fist embedded where your skull should be.
The only way Batman defeats Flash is with his armored batsuit, and he would need his tank of a batmobile and his Batwing to defeat him. Those 3 things combined with his intelligence would destroy Flash in my opinion because Flash is fast but reckless, and has a weakness with ice which Batman knows.
In this case it would be the flash because he held back yeah the defenses would stop him from killing him but still Barry definitely had the upper hand this time
