Faith Alone Debate: Sam Shamoun vs Pastor J.D. Martin 

I know. So frustrating! And this pastor couldn't even hear the point being made and revert to that point.

I don’t think he even hears himself speak and understands what his saying

Could this be why the Christian faith is so divided.

He doesn't hear himself and is deceived. So close, yet so far away. Pray that Christ opens his heart to the gospel.

This is a silly point about semantics. Obviously his theology isn’t coming from his imagination. Hes attempting to explain his understanding of scripture.

Same with me. I never was taught about being born again and that you can know if you are saved growing up in the Catholic church. I had to find this out outside the church, because they don't teach it and if they don't teach it nor ever read those passages you will never know about it, unless you seek it on your own. When I did ask the church fathers and others, they did not have an answer to my question, if you can know if you are saved. Imagine having the scriptures at your fingertips and keeping that important bit of information a secret, which is a salvation issue.

@@Our_Daily_Bread_With_JB Dear sir, this is the error with modern day Protestantism/Pentecostalism/Charimatism Christian family fellowshipism...There is only ONE Lord (Jesus), One Faith (of Jesus) and ONE BAPTISM (INTO JESUS THE MESSIAH) - Ephesians 4: 5; read also 1 Corinthians 12: 12 - 13 (not neglecting Jesus's Baptism by FULL IMMERSION IN WATER and RECEIVING the Holy Spirit the same time/day and with SONSHIP confirmed by the Father on the same day...no delay! Anything other than that is not part of the Gospel of Jesus (YASHUAH) the Messiah but a pseudo Gospel of man...)🛐🕎📜📖🐑✅️

@@luvpamelanewton I know I will never forget the encounter u had with Him my LORD.

Bullshit.

@@luvpamelanewton John 3:10-12 (JESUS Knows). They May be a Religious Person, They can only teach what they know, and If they don’t The Truth they can’t teach it.

Well said!

@@Godconquersall143 Relying on Many to Support Your beliefs, Is Not necessarily safe. Knowing what JESUS said, and Lead by The HOLY SPIRIT To JESUS Is Safe. We stand Before GOD Individually, To except GOD’s Free Gift, As said by JESUS in JOHN 3:16. Matthew 7:13-14

Pray that he overcomes this.he is fighting.let him get it. And he will.he is softening lol. I pray.😊

This is why the Roman church teaches another gospel than what Paul and Jesus taught. If you feel you earn your way to heaven, you will all fail.

THE TRUE GOSPEL DELIVERS FROM BONDAGE , AND THE SECOND DEATH. 11And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14This is the confidence we have in approaching God: New International Version Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” King James Bible Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; King James Bible Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? King James Bible For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our. (SINS ) according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: King James Bible And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. New King James Version Remember that Jesus Christ, of the seed of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel, New King James Version and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; King James Bible And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. King James Bible Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God. New International Version 1 Peter 2:7 Now to you who believe, this stone is PRECIOUS. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,” King James Bible Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. New International Version So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by ( LETTER.) JESUS IS LORD= GOD. GOD IS TRIUNE. THE FATHER IS GOD. THE SON IS GOD. THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD. NOT THREE GODS, But the one true God. (HEAR, O ISRAEL; (THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD:) 28And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, WHICH IS THE FIRST COMMANDMENT OF ALL? 29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, ' 30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. King James Bible And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. New International Version Whether, then, it is I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE GOSPEL MESSAGE . BELIEVE, AND BE SAVED New International Version FOR I AM NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL, (BECAUSE IT IS THE POWER OF GOD THAT BRINGS SALVATION TO EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES: )FIRST TO THE JEW, THEN TO THE GENTILE. YOU WILL DO THE WORKS THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR YOU BEFORE HAND. BECAUSE YOU ARE SAVED AND THE SPIRIT LIVES IN YOU. BELIEVE, AND BE SAVED IS THE MESSAGE. New International Version john 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. New International Version JOHN 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. HEBREWS 3:19 New International Version So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief. ONLY 2 CHOICES DIE IN YOUR SINS, OR BELIEVE AND BE CLEANSED, WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF Christ. BONUS VERSE 3:11 Micah New Living Translation You rulers make decisions based on bribes; you priests teach God's laws only for a price; you prophets won't prophesy unless you are paid. Yet all of you claim to depend on the LORD. "No harm can come to us," you say, "for the LORD is here among us. DO NOT TRUST IN MEN, OR IN WORKS, BUT BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST.

I agree! I also admired how the pastor remained composed regardless of "Suge Sam's bullying". Fruits of the Spirit on display. Glory to our Lord Jesus Christ!!

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the  assurance of things  hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

@@InnocentRuyonga SAM IS AN ARROGANT POMPOUS ASS BULLY AND A HYPOCRITE. EVEN CHRISTIAN PRINCE SAYS SO! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rJ_H2sMljnk.html

Yeah I agree knowing how Sam deals with people who cut him off lol he gave this dude a lot of grace and I was happy they had this discussion but it was sad to see this young pastor tap dance and get into debate mode instead of just letting the Holy Spirit guide the conversation.

This is identical to me trying to argue with my uncle

you all are INSANE!

Lol. If you think that's patience, I don't know what to tell you. I respect Sam for what he is, but patient is not it.

Yeah so much patience that he kept on interrupting

Was the good thieve ( next to jesus on the cross) babtised before his salvation?

He was baptized through the words of Christ...

@@rickvermeulen8916He died and rose with Jesus literally. We can do it in baptism, Romans 6,3-14

@@rickvermeulen8916 which baptism? I believe there are three (3) in the New Testament.

What do they believe?what is the foundational beliefs of the Assyrian east church ? Id say just like Abraham from ur ! Come out of there and follow me , live by faith , be a seed of Abraham . Don’t be deceived, Mary was no more divine than anyone else. And Mary said, “Behold, the slave of the Lord; may it be done to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her. Luke 1:38

"And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest. And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve. For whether is greater, he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth? is not he that sitteth at meat? but I am among you as he that serveth."- Luke 22 verses 24 to 27.

@@MichaelAChristian1 Amen. What is the relevance of quoting this particular scripture here?

@@iamtheteapot7405 The argument about authority made STRIFE long ago. The lesson to serve. Same now. They want authority to exercise lordship over you. To exercise power over you not to serve you. Or to not be of service and do as they please But He is among you as one that serves. And as a 2 edged sword. Those who want to be their own authority, can also not be greatest without being as one that serves. Both argue to give authority to themselves to exercise lordship. None doth seek the things of Christ. Hence scattering of Christians like tower of Babel. Hence every different name being tossed around. Every debate is same strife over and over. It was settled long ago. If you seek to be greatest then they know what to do and don't.

@@MichaelAChristian1You said a lot of things brother, I’m a little slow, can you explain simply to me your point? Who is they?

@@iamtheteapot7405 People argue about authority still. It's prideful as the greatest is called servant.

He's no longer Orthodox?

And that verse cites genesis 15:6 which is after three chapters of Abraham doing good works. Why didn’t it cite genesis 12 instead?

Ok, that's what God says. But what I need to know is what the Pope says.

Christ said to get baptized by water, physically, kinda like he did

Galatians 5:6 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.

​@jaredrussell9100 where did he say that?

It was a fun discussion!

Yeah, J.D. did a great job. Soli Deo Gloria!

@milkmeat What are your thoughts after watching this video?

Be kind and rewind!

I disagree. I saw two honest and humble men have a discussion. Sissified Christians like you have no spine and this anyone who is firm is "arrogant" and not humble. Get off your high horse

@@Thedisciplemike looks like you need to get off your high horse, Mike.

@@Davian_James great comeback

@@Thedisciplemike Yours too!

@@Thedisciplemike - It had nothing to do with firmness. It had everything to do with the pretense that Sam was “educating” JD and every time there was a difference in view it was because JD “just didn’t understand”. We understand Sam just fine.. and think he are wrong. Sam did not show humility.

Please reach out to me on FB messenger. We can talk about it.

Praise God for you brother

@Spartan 300 🤣 Catholics are technically the only true Christian. So you're either Catholic or nonChristian

@Spartan 300 I've been devoting my life to discussing these things lol of course I'd love to discuss them with you

@Spartan 300 the Catholic Church teaches salvation by Grace alone, not faith alone. It's not a works based religion. That's a very common misconceptions by many of the thousands of protestant denominations

God bless you for sharing this

Watching stuff like this is not a faith increaser. Its demotivating. It’s way overly technical and proves the church is just an organization. To argue what faith shows us watching, religion is just argumentative to for men to engage in. And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.” I for one have started questioning these values they both espouse and find it empty and lost in the blackness of it all. Perhaps it really is just man made religion

This would tend to increase your faith and perhaps persuade someone to believe there is a God. But better for you that you don't have to have an experience like that to help you believe, Jesus said.

Love the part on baptism and Eucharist

​@gigglygiggly309 ai hear you. Its because it is all fleshy carnal dispute. Im sorry ypu feel that way. I truly am. Jesus loves you dided for you. Will save you once for all this instant if you believe Him for it. No religion. No changing. No anything other than taking Him at his word. Im so sorry you feel confused by all this.

Allejuia 🙏🏻💯

Nope, it's NOT JUST FAITH, But ...faith in harmony with work. According to St. James, FAITH without WORK is DEAD!!! So faith and works (obedience to Christ) is showing love for JESUS.

And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. - 1 Corinthians 13:2 Paul clearly says that you can have faith that moves all mountains without love, so there's a distinction, but if you don't have love, then you are nothing. So, faith plus nothing (faith alone), according to Paul, is nothing.

@@jacobwoods6153 powerful 🙌🏼

Obedience to the commandment of love: how do we show our obedience? Is it only in mind in the abstract sense or we show obedience through action in reality? So having faith, but not expressed through faith, then faith is dead (James 5:17, 26).

Thank you so much for the encouragement. Online ministry can be so discouraging since people always tear you down. You have no idea how much this comment means to me. Thank you, Chan!

@@exploringtheologychannel1697 i think you did great! Come to see more content! U r very inteligent. God bless you

​@exploringtheologychannel1697 He could have been far more brutal, my Baptist brother, quarreling is not pleasing. Perhaps your position is different now. His position has changed as well. Praying for us.

Act like you are suggesting take another reincarnation through this hell again. Not too bright. Jesus gives us a way off the hamster wheel. Have faith alone and take the step off.

What a terrible argument lol

@cool muso that's the classic catholic argument. Reminds me of a weaker version of calvinism....just a doctrine in search of a proof text.

@@coryalbright9798 Debate me on Instagram livestream on what “faith alone “ means

@@coolmuso6108 "what a terrible argument lol" says a dude who then proceeds not to make any rebuttal whatsoever. Either you're too lazy or you actually don't know how

@@coryalbright9798 and you're answer to it is...?

THE TRUE GOSPEL DELIVERS FROM BONDAGE , AND THE SECOND DEATH. 11And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14This is the confidence we have in approaching God: New International Version Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.” King James Bible Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; King James Bible Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? King James Bible For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our. (SINS ) according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: King James Bible And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. New King James Version Remember that Jesus Christ, of the seed of David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel, New King James Version and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; King James Bible And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. King James Bible Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God. New International Version 1 Peter 2:7 Now to you who believe, this stone is PRECIOUS. But to those who do not believe, “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,” King James Bible Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. New International Version So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by ( LETTER.) JESUS IS LORD= GOD. GOD IS TRIUNE. THE FATHER IS GOD. THE SON IS GOD. THE HOLYSPIRIT IS GOD. NOT THREE GODS, But the one true God. (HEAR, O ISRAEL; (THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD:) 28And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, WHICH IS THE FIRST COMMANDMENT OF ALL? 29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, ' 30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. King James Bible And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. New International Version Whether, then, it is I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE GOSPEL MESSAGE . BELIEVE, AND BE SAVED New International Version FOR I AM NOT ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL, (BECAUSE IT IS THE POWER OF GOD THAT BRINGS SALVATION TO EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES: )FIRST TO THE JEW, THEN TO THE GENTILE. YOU WILL DO THE WORKS THAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR YOU BEFORE HAND. BECAUSE YOU ARE SAVED AND THE SPIRIT LIVES IN YOU. BELIEVE, AND BE SAVED IS THE MESSAGE. New International Version john 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. New International Version JOHN 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. HEBREWS 3:19 New International Version So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief. ONLY 2 CHOICES DIE IN YOUR SINS, OR BELIEVE AND BE CLEANSED, WASHED IN THE BLOOD OF Christ. BONUS VERSE 3:11 Micah New Living Translation You rulers make decisions based on bribes; you priests teach God's laws only for a price; you prophets won't prophesy unless you are paid. Yet all of you claim to depend on the LORD. "No harm can come to us," you say, "for the LORD is here among us. DO NOT TRUST IN MEN, OR IN WORKS, BUT BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST.

The JUST shall live by Faith: Romans 1:17 Expanded Bible 17 The ·Good News [Gospel] shows ·how God makes people right with himself [or God’s righteous character; L the righteousness of/from God]-·that it begins and ends with faith [or that advances from one believing person to the next; or that begins with God’s faithfulness and results in people’s faith; L from faith to faith]. As the Scripture says, “But ·those who are right with God will live by faith [or those made righteous through faith will live (eternally); Hab. 2:4].”

@@erfwiseand yet it if you don’t get baptized you can’t enter the Kingdom.

@@Veteransministry That is heresy - show me one scripture - just 1 that says that

@@erfwise John 3:3-5. I will wait for you to come back and say baptism is not what he meant.

Doesn't result in him being wrong either. Changing your views doesn't mean anything.

@@syntax575it does mean you are easily persuaded by fallacious arguments and lack true wisdom which is apart from intellect

So, what is the essence of the debate, if not throw light to misconceptions and illogicalities? As in this debate, Sam has stronger points than Pastor Martin. Sam is obviously more enlightened about the faith than the Pastor. And if we are to be logical, the Pastor should leave off some of his beliefs, which are very parochial and if like, informed by bias against the Church Fathers

@Flippiecoester

​@@Luiicianoyou are attacking the person, you are being as fallacious as you say he is

Sam doesn’t care about all of that. You have to prove it scripturally. That’s what matters

@@bewitchedprophetofislam9048 And Sam didn’t. His faith = faithfulness is outright false.

@@coolmuso6108 Faith Alone = Faithfulness, is CORRECT actually. Faith without works is dead faith. So he’s actually correct. Faith alone is not dead faith.

@@bewitchedprophetofislam9048 No, it’s the faith (assenting to the truth of the promise of the Gospel) that saves you. Faithfulness is a fruit of the Spirit and the Spirit is received by faith - not works.

​@@coolmuso6108even your "faith/belief" is the product of your "freewill" which clearly you yourself is FREELY ACTING ON/DOING. So, St. JAMES is always right, faith without works is DEAD., thus, ANNIHALATING protestant heresy of "FAITH ALONE"!!! 😏😏

God bless you!

Christ is the savior. Rest on him alone!

@@exploringtheologychannel1697 yes Jesus is my Lord, my saviour. Acts 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”

Amen to that. I do think the local church is important though.

@@exploringtheologychannel1697 i do go to rc church because its near by, but i am no very fond of traditions, except for sermon and bible quiz which is good. Regarding protestant churches, i have been many times, their sermon i love but they should also give more emphasis on topics like repentance which they hesitate on preaching. Repentance is one of my favourite topics because i was a drug addict and reading the four gospel changed my life, today i am 13 years away from drugs after know how beautiful our Lord Jesus is in his nature. I don't go to Churches who believes Jesus is not God. For me Jesus is my Love and my only Love.

@@exploringtheologychannel1697 Yes Church is important, and i love having fellowship who can share the gospel and the love of Christ. But most christian like to speak about wordly affair, politics etc.

you are delusional, Sam is brillient but a prideful, arrogant very disrespectful, ass

what are you referencing when you believe in the 352 instead of the 381?

@@JohnQTaxpayer. - That was a year ago so I'm not positive but I believe I was referring to the two different Nicene Creeds. One in AD 352 & the other 381.

John 3:5 New King James Version 5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. There is not much room for interpretation

"And there was also a strife among them, which of them should be accounted the greatest. And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve. For whether is greater, he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth? is not he that sitteth at meat? but I am among you as he that serveth."- Luke 22 verses 24 to 27.

First study and meditate on the word that you may not be deceived by men writings and men's church history. Indeed it is good to know the history. But you should know the word predates all that history. It's like if you want to become a doctor; you studied a doctor's book. So if we want to be a true believer of Jesus; we must know the word. So studying the Bible for it is the one that takes you right back to Jesus and Apostles timeline. Church history will lead you only to men creating things but not truly to Jesus.

When it comes to church history I would highly encourage you to listen to Gavin Ortlund at Truth Unites. He does an amazing job and provides much needed historical context

Amen brother keep searching and asking the Holy Spirit to guide you in truth and not your own understanding. ❤️❤️🙏

@@rishanborrymbai1104deceived? Have you read the church fathers? I would invite you to truly study the early church and their beliefs and the roots of Protestantism. The disciples protected the true faith and passed it on to the early church as they defended the faith. If we seek truth and truly humble ourselves before God we will find truth in these understandings, not of our own. God bless you brother / sister ❤️🙏

I kind of agree, his knowledge is very shallow and hopefully he isnt running a church, but in mentorship. Hopefully he will become seasoned and more well versed

Where does it say pre-millennialism or any other view is esssential?

The Gospel is essential. Eschatology is not. This seems obvious.

This is an absurd statement that you are making as a false straw man attack against Protestants. Obviously it is not arbitrary. The Scripture gives example regarding non essentials and speaks to Christian liberty The two groups of Christians were arguing and passing judgment on one another, and Paul told them to stop “quarreling over disputable matters” (Romans 14:1).

After quoting the Scipture will you continue to claim that Protestants are being arbitrary with no biblical basis regarding "non essentials"?

Roman's 14:22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves.

No, faith alone is a biblical doctrine. Faith plus works is a man made doctrine. Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] *NOT OF WORKS* , lest any man should boast. Romans 4:4-8 KJV Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. [5] But to him that *WORKETH NOT* , but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. [6] Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, [7] Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. [8] Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. Romans 3:20-24 KJV Therefore *BY THE DEEDS OF THE LAW THERE SHALL BE NO FLESH JUSTIFIED* in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. [21] But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; [22] Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: [23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; [24] Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Galatians 2:16 KJV Knowing that a man *IS NOT JUSTIFIED BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW* , but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and *NOT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW* : for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Romans 3:28 KJV Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith *WITHOUT THE DEEDS OF THE LAW.* Hebrews 6:1 KJV Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of *repentance from dead works* , and of faith toward God, Romans 10:3-4 KJV For they being *ignorant of God's righteousness,* and going about to establish their own righteousness, *have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God* . [4] For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. Over and over the Bible makes it clear that a person is saved by faith without works. Yet many people deny this and claim that passages such as James 2.24 teach that a person is saved by faith and works. This is false, the Bible does not contradict itself. James 2:24 KJV Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Is James 2.24 teaching that a person is saved by faith and works? No. It is not even talking about salvation. Both Paul and James use the word dikaioo which is translated as justified. This word has a range of meanings depending on the context. Dikaioo had primarily a forensic (legal) use meaning that one is declared righteous, acquitted, this is the way Paul uses it and is talking about in the sight of God. James however does not use dikaioo in this way, instead he uses it in the same way that 1 Timothy 3.16 and Luke 7.35 uses it which is talking about vindication, something being proven to be true. Justification in these passages is simply referring to that. It would be absurd to say that dikaioo (justified) in relation to Christ is talking about him being saved. Because people fail to recognise how dikaioo is used they end up misunderstanding the Bible. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, *justified* in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Luke 7:35 KJV But wisdom is *justified* of all her children. James agrees with Paul. That is why they both quote Genesis 15.6. James quotes this in verse 23, just prior to the passage many claim teaches that you are saved by faith. Yet Abraham was 75 when he got saved. (Joshua 24, Genesis 12). About 100 years old he get circumcised. Years later he finally offered up Isaac. To say that Abraham's work of offering up Isaac saved him denies that he was saved prior which us evidently false. James 2:23-24 KJV And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. [24] Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Genesis 15:6 KJV And he believed in the Lord ; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Abraham was not saved by being circumcised. Romans 4:9-12 KJV Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness. [10] How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? *Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.* [11] And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: [12] And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, *which he had being yet uncircumcised.* Neither was he saved by offering up Isaac. Abraham was saved before he offered up Isaac, he was saved before circumcision, he was saved by calling on the Lord, his faith saved him. When James says Abraham was justified by offering up Isaac he is talking about being justified in the sight of men. Not God. Romans 4:2 KJV For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but *NOT BEFORE GOD.* Abraham proven his faith by his works. This is the point James was making. That is why James 2:18 says, "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works." Man cannot see someones heart to know if they are saved. Man looks at works. In the sight of man, Abraham was justified by his works, in other words, his faith was proven to be true. Paul and James are not talking about the same thing. Paul is speaking against self-righteous Judaism while James is talking about dead orthodoxy. When Paul speaks about justification he is talking about the declaration of innocence before God. When James speaks about justification it is talking about the sanctification of believers in the sight of men. Paul is speaking about Genesis 15.6, yet the emphasis of James is on Genesis 22. People are saved by faith, not works. Over and over the Bible repeats itself on this point. Paul strongly rebukes the Galatians calling them foolish for later adding an element of the law to the Gospel, thinking they would be justified by it. Galatians 3:3-13 KJV Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? [4] Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. [5] He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? [6] Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. [7] Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. [8] And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. [9] So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. [10] For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. [11] But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. [12] And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. [13] Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: People were preaching false gospels of salvation, one of which included the work of circumcision. The type of work added to the Gospel for salvation is irrelevant, any work added makes it a false gospel (which the Bible warns of). As Paul makes known in Galatians 5.4, that Christ became no effect to the Galatians, since they were seeking to be justified by the works they included. Therefore whoever believes in a Gospel of works is not believing in Christ for salvation. A person can claim they trust in Christ, yet whoever believes works are a part of salvation clearly do not as the Bible reveals. Galatians 5:3-5 KJV For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. [4] Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. [5] For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. Galatians 2:21 KJV I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Titus 3:4-5 KJV But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, [5] Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; In conclusion, the Bible teaches that a person is saved by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, not of works. The Bible teaches that those who add work (whatever work that might be) to the Gospel are preaching a false gospel, one that frustrates the grace of God and renders Christ of no effect to those who receive it. In short, a person cannot be saved by believing such a gospel. FALSE GOSPEL Christ + faith + works = salvation TRUE GOSPEL Christ + faith =salvation Salvation is a free gift of God, given by his grace and mercy. It is not earned. It is a gift.

@@jesusisgod2953 sorry to say but faith alone as defined by the protestant in not biblical, its a man made tradition created on 16th century later.

@@christianspear6322 Salvation is a gift. It is free. You don't work for it, you don't earn it neither can you add to what Christ did. Christ is sufficient. Not our filthy rags.

@@christianspear6322 i think you do not even know what "Faith alone" means

Ok then.. how much good works have you done to add to to His grace....who has bewitch you?

Thank you so much for your kind comment. May the Lord help us all grow in grace.

What I believe what Sam was arguing is that FAITH also encompasses a FAITHFUL ACTION according to what the Bible and the early Christians taught.

@@JoseRodriguez-dw9dv Newsflash: there is no "Faithful Action" ANYWHERE in Scripture! Indeed, "for it is with your HEART that you BELIEVE (Faith) and are JUSTIFIED"....PERIOD--Nothing More--Nothing-Less!!!

@@cassandragarcia5548 I was merely trying my best to clarify Sam's point in this argument of what scripture and church fathers meant by Faith. I took a while to respond sorry. Here are some scriptures on faithfulness (faithful action) in scripture that you couldn't find. Matthew 24:45-50 Luke 12:42 1 Corinthians 4:2 Hebrews 3:5 Take time to look into this video if you can. Lengthy but I'd rather you get context and hope it's a blessing. ru-vid.comBGud75GGm3w?si=CJdY57gV6t2os39U

Is faith a one off Faith i.e Past tense? No, it's a continued walk. OSAS has no eternal security, it's a time will tell doctrine. Just look at 1 Timothy 1:4. They were never saved to begin with? No, not true. They Departed from "THE FAITH"

​@@cassandragarcia5548Is faith a one off Faith i.e Past tense? No, it's a continued walk. OSAS has no eternal security, it's a time will tell doctrine. Just look at 1 Timothy 1:4. They were never saved to begin with? No, not true. They Departed from "THE FAITH"

it's because Sam was patient.

@@user-nu3sd7zb2j are you one of those people who begs Sam not to block them and then praises him to feed his ego when he spares you? Sam, patient? Lol

@@p4pdestined8 calm down. Your narcissism is showing.

@@user-nu3sd7zb2j sounds like Sam too. Also, I don't think you know what a narcissist is; if you did, you wouldn't have made that comment.

@@p4pdestined8 I do. It's very telling.

AMEN.

Hahaha Sam was fighting the urge no to annihilate him. He was actually being very charitable the whole discussion. Thank God he didn’t challenge Sam to a debate.

You simply dont know Sam, his judgment belongs to the lord alone, not us. We are all in a spiritual battle with the enemy, and Sam admits his falts, he admits hes impatience, he struggles with anger ect. But that doesn't meen hes wrong about his theology. Sams not perfect like all of us are not perfect, but i watch Sam daily pray to the holy spirit live on video asking god to give him patience and to calm his anger. So Sam is humble, but Sam also has a amazing gift from God to memorize the scriptures almost perfectly. So because of that hes extremely confident in his theology, because in doing so he can look at the big picture and help layman understand. Sams not here to tickle people's ears and boost their own ego. Thats not why Sam does this, Sam could care less what any man thinks of him. What matters is truth, no matter who it may offend. But i watch Sam pray 🙏 daily for god to give him patience and humility because Sam himself recognizes his own falts. And isnt trying to hide them from anyone, you have to admire a man like him honestly.

@@davekendall1139 I agree that Sam is a gifted man when it comes to the Scriptures, but it seems Sam and you have agreed with me - he has "issues" that are unChristlike and they may be a distraction and deterrent to effectively sharing the Gospel. I also agree that we all have our struggles, but none of them justify inappropriate attitudes, speech, or behavior. Not "ticking people's ears" or "caring what others think of you" is not a license to habitually demean or mistreat other image bearers of God no matter how wrong or deceived they are. So I applaud you for praying for Sam and encourage you to continue praying for him. Yet, the truth still remains, he and you both admit that he does have problems that need to be repented of and addressed. I'm also praying for Sam, but if Truth is important to us all and it is, then we must be truthful with one another and not try to cover up, excuse, sweep under the rug, or downplay that which is wrong and must be corrected and changed. This is not a personal attack but an admonishing between brothers in Christ.

It seems he doesn't have patience for foolishness..God bless you sam

I agree, Sam likes to intimidate , threaten and condescend towards people. He loves flexing his muscles on his videos, wears offensive t-shirts and think he is a reincarnate "Bruce Lee" - very carnal and narcissistic...sorry Sam please mature spiritually...

I see Sam fights his own demons. I see he keeps trying.

His channel, his rules. I don't know why that would seem crazy to you.

@@elpibe1924 It's called respect

Sam has always been interrupting his whole life on debates.

They can have moral certitude, but we are sinners - we tend to be attracted to sin. If Jesus had said Once Saved Always Saved, for example, we’d likely take that as a free pass to sin. Luckily, he preached the opposite: Sin is very serious. It offends God. Nothing sinful can enter Heaven. Jesus died so we could live eternally, so don’t neglect this gift. Don’t take his grace for granted. ❤️

It does. I grew up with that uncertainty and constant fear. I was raised Catholic. When I asked if you can know if you are saved, no one could answer my question. I had to find out outside the church. I felt betrayed. It's a serious salvation issue of my soul. Telling me I am going to wind up in Purgatory from unconfessed sin, to have the sin be beat out of me, is not something to look forward to. Not knowing the connection of why Jesus Christ died and resurrected and that you still need to depend on church fathers and their mediation for your salvation isn't good enough. You become completely dependent on them for your salvation and hope you can be good enough to make it. The scriptures showed me Jesus Christ is the mediator, because He is the one who died for me. The scriptures taught me that if I confessed Jesus Christ the Son of God is Lord, I can inherit the gift of salvation by what He did, dying and atoning for my sins on the cross. This I never learned in the church. I found out when it was shown to me in the scriptures outside the church. Why? If they follow the apostles and their teachings, why not teach this? Why keep it a secret?

It's doesn't not Don't And yeah if you have a problem solve it with Peter not us 1 Peter 3:20 New International Version 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 1 Peter 3:21 New International Version 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also-not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.[a] It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, John 3:5 “Jesus answered, ‘I tell you the truth, unless a man is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.’ Acts 22:16 “And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name.”

Salvation is by faith

@@kiroshakir7935using the niv just shows your not very knowledgeable my brother or sister in Christ

@@Bornagain5.56 I know it's not the most popular in scholarly discourse and has some questionable translation choices but I quoted it because it's the easiest and most accessible Besides the translation of the verses in question is virtually the same compared to the "better translations" like the ESV and NRSV

@@kiroshakir7935 yall are both right they go together.

So believing is all it takes? So you don't need to keep any of Jesus's commandments? We can believe in Jesus and just go around murdering people? If believing is all it takes then you have just included devils in heaven, James 2:19.

Christ be with you thats a dead faith But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, *and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.* Wherefore the rather, brethren, *give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:* For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. (2 peter 1:9-11) Gpd bless you

@@MrKev1664 amen

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I doubt he will ever become a Muslim...however, one requires discernment when listening to his anti-Protestant talks.

​@@ephesians6124 sham shamoun is a Muslim destroyer

Nowhere does it mention that Peter loved Jesus more than the other apostles. Jesus asked Peter if he loved Him 3x times, very likely to restore him after he denied Him 3x. Just because Jesus gave Peter primacy, it does not mean that was based on him loving him more than the other apostles. There can be other reasons for entrusting a person or persons with something other than their love for you. Even in the OT, God chose Israel out of all the nations, but that does not mean it was because they loved him more. In fact, it's made clear that they were chosen based on nothing they had done. Jacob and Esau is another example of God choosing one over another for his own purposes, since He made that choice before they were born. Let's not try to refute Protestantism by falling into their own errors of reading our own thoughts and speculations into the Holy Scriptures.

get out of here with your fake piety.

@@robdee81 I forgive you and pray for you sir.

Faith absolutely in itself is a work. Faith is an action word. Faith requires you to move your lips Romans 10:9. Moving your lips is a work.

Christ be with you Rom 4 speaks of works of the Law, not good works. It speaks of the circumcision of Abraham, and King David's forgiveness without animal sacrifice. St Paul talks of the promise to Abraham that came by it faith. This promise was full we are told by God was fulfilled because he Obeyed God (Gen 26:4-5) God bless you

@@MrKev1664 yep, that's because we are now saved by faith alone. However we are also not by the works of the law Moses either. But rather the works of the law of Christ. We certainly must keep the law of Christ or we are not saved.

@@KyrieEleisonMaranatha Christ be with you No we are saved by Gods Grace, his forgiveness of our sin there is no such thing as Faith alone especially if we must keep the Law of Christ. do you now what the Law of Christ is? Can you define what faith in Jesus Christ is? God bless you

@@MrKev1664 absolutely the law of Christ is Jesus's commandments he gave while on earth with us. Baptism, euachrist, charity etc. Faith is the belief in and obedience to Jesus. But it also includes Baptism and confession. Faith in itself is an action word, a work.

Sounds like you may be on a journey to the ancient, apostolic Church..praise God ! Have you read any Church Fathers? or the Didache? Since this episode was originally aired, Sam has converted to Catholicism, he's been attending the Catholic Church.. God bless you brother ...or sister! I will say a prayer for you :) 🤍🕊️🤍

I am looking forward to the next talk!

I agree, there was way too much talking past each other and distraction, going down rabbit trails. Having a moderator to keep the dialogue on track would have been beneficial.

Can you show me 1 verse in the entire Bible that says we are saved by faith alone. I'll wait.

@@KyrieEleisonMaranatha you’re starting to sounds like a Muslim. “Can you show me where Jesus says I am God” Or a Jehovah witness says “show me one verses with the word trinity” We both know that doctrines aren’t established that way. Romans 5:1 Therefore, since we have been 👉🏻justified👈🏻 by 👉🏻faith👈🏻, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ Romans 4:5 And to the one who does not work but 👉🏻believes 👈🏻in 👉🏻him👈🏻 who 👉🏻justifies👈🏻 the ungodly, his 👉🏻faith👈🏻 is counted as 👉🏻righteousness👈🏻, Romans 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham 👉🏻believed👈🏻 God, and it was 👉🏻counted👈🏻 to him as. 👉🏻righteousness👈🏻 Ephesians 2:8-9 For by 👉🏻 GRACE👈🏻you have been saved through 👉🏻faith👈🏻. And this is not your own 👉🏻doing👈🏻; it is the 👉🏻gift👈🏻 of God, not a result of 👉🏻WORKS👈🏻, so that no one may boast.

@@jamesb6818 I didn't ask you to show me the exact words faith alone. Because even if you did that there is only 1 verse that actually says faith alone. That's James 2:24. Also I never said we are saved by the works of the law of Moses. Not really sure why you posted a bunch of verses about works of the law of Moses. We don't teach that anyways. So that is straw man argument to post all those verses. I asked you to show me where the Bible says/teaches we are saved by faith alone. None of those verses say faith is alone in the process of sanctification. You aren't going to find a single verse that teaches faith is alone. Faith and works of the law of Christ go together. You can't have one apart from the other.

False.

There are truly saved members of our family that take communion at mass, however, the catechism and doctrine that lands outside Scripture. We only have one priestly intercessor whose name we pray, Mary and the Saints dont get us to the Father, only Christ. I take communion at mass every now and then btw

TRUE!

@@gabriel-uc1uzIt’s true

@@jaredrussell9100I recommend you read the Catechism (again?), since you don’t seem to understand Scripture as Catholic Church explains it. Free online.

Where did I mention it was not a debate? I said a lot of things in this discussion, so I don't remember everything.

@@exploringtheologychannel1697 i will check the time line and send to you brother. just give me some time.

Opening prayer you multiple times call it a conversation.

1:42:44 in concluding remarks its against referred to as a conversation.

I don’t view a debate as a bad thing. A debate is a discussion where people disagree. Thus, in my view every debate is a discussion, but every discussion is a debate since if you agree it can’t be called a debate.

No you are wrong Sam is right like seriously check out the Bible verse Sam is quoting from baptism is important in Christianity

@@Cool.905 LOL No, you are wrong. Your OPINION is duly noted and summarily dismissed because, well, it's just that and MORE IMPORTANTLY God says otherwise. “Even a fool who keeps silent is considered wise; when he closes his lips, he is deemed intelligent.” (Pro. 17:28) "A fool does not delight in understanding but only in revealing his own mind." (Pro. 18:2) I'm not only familiar with that verse but EVERY verse regarding Baptism and Salvation. Neither JD nor myself are saying that Baptism isn't important. We're saying it's NOT essential and NOT part of the Gospel. Nor does it regenerate anyone,

You probably didn't notice how Sam knew J.D.'s arguments in advance if you think he wasn't listening

@@HeavyDutyJack315 - You probably didn't notice where I gave EVIDENCE that Sam wasn't listening.

@@RoyceVanBlaricome You probably didn't notice that you gave your personal opinion and not evidence

You clearly have no clue. Sam is without patience. He is lost so I'm not surprised.

Does he make a living just sitting in the apartment doing live streams?

Thank you. You're attacking Sam without any facts smarter and deeper than the Mohammedans and other filthy heretics. With you guys, Christianity will grow much faster. Bravo 👏

Isn’t Protestant in the same boat by leaving Catholic Church and creating their own authorities and own interpretations of the Bible?

@@ar2ro969 In all honesty, you have to admit it’s pretty bad.

You are ignorant of what the apostolic churches are teaching, came on the 16th century later and claim you have the truth which actually you dont have.

Well, yeah..sure, how about those people with psychological disabilities from birth (Ex. Autism)? If faith is "religiously" required to enter the kingdom, how do people with psychological disabilities since birth get baptized? Baptism is one thing. Baptism in the catholic sense is Christ giving authority to be PART of the kingdom, and personal FAITH is not YET a requirement, thus, the baptism of infants. After baptism, we in the Catholic church have "CONFIRMATION", that's the time when your "faith" is required so, then you can enjoy His body, in the Eucharist. And your task doesn't end there, your faith needs to persevere until the end. Christ, by His sacrifice already redeemed ALL MEN past, present and future--- but for the present, Christ's sacrifice is our TICKET, now we need to go to the BALL. How do we get to the ball (heaven) miles and miles away from our house? We need to save money, take a bath, go to the airport/terminal/pier, journey to the destination with food and water, also, the outfit for the ball is required, extra money for some miscellaneous and just make sure to be in time before the ball starts. And let me remind you that the "TICKET" for the ball is so expensive that all ur effort to go to the ball would mean "NOTHING". But, u need to get to the ball of ur own doing (FREEWILL = FAITH+WORKS) All those efforts u did for making it in time for the ball are parallel to BAPTISM, CONFIRMATION, EUCHARIST, ALL THE SEVEN SACRAMENTS, THE ROSARY, GUIDANCE OF THE CHURCH..., and ur able to do those things because God through the Holy Spirit provided everthing you need for the journey (GRACE), all u need to do is use those things on the journey.

We have a different view on baptism. Imagine your son walking across the street on his own at 2 years old? Do you let him cross the street on his own or do you hold his hand? Same Thing with Christianity for the Eastern Orthodox faith. We love our children so much that we baptize them to wash away their sin. At that point they are saved… but then in life God has allowed the devil to roam the earth. The devil works very hard to tempt us to screw up and fall off track. By falling into sin, we become aware of our sin, repent and reach to the Bible and church to grow closer to God. I was saved, I am being saved, I will be saved. We say that we will be saved because at the end god is the most merciful. We get to choose whether we want to go with him or not. If we choose not then we will face eternal hell.

The end where we have a choice is the second coming the final judgment

How?

​@@malamanalopa2786It's circular argument. The bottom line is they both believe what they want. Sam says Desire is counted as water baptism. Faith he means is counted as water baptism. Faith is counted as righteousness he means. He just doesn't get it. Then bring up one baptism. You can't lose baptism. Thats eternal security.

Great comment. God bless NGN!

Christ Be with you No faith alone means no works (James 2:14-26) and that means not love (john 14:21-24) Without love and obedience to Christ we cannot abide in Him. The thief on the cross showed love for Christ defending him while going to his own death, that is work (luke 23:29-43) God bless you

How can claim to love God and believe in him and not abide in every one of his commandments? The rich man who professed Jesus as "good" (meaning he is God) but did not do as Jesus instructed him showed the kind of faith that is dead. Professing and believing is not faith. Professing, believing and doing all his commandments is faith.

@@adedamolaayo-onita8603 Many will say, Lord, Lord in your Name, we Prophesied, in your Name, we healed the sick and driven out demons, but Christ will turn around and say to them, I never knew you, away from me you EVILDOERS." (ref. Matt. 7:23)... The FIRST will be the last, and the LAST will be the first to enter the Kingdom of God... (Ref. Matt. 20:16)... Anyone who DOES the WILL of my Father (God), is my Brother, Sister, and Mother,... and will enter the Kingdom of Heaven." (Ref. Matt. 12:50 / Mat. 7:21-22)

Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, so how does the natural man have it, unless God first give it as a gift that radiates from our God given heart of flesh that God gives by grace " unmerrited favor "?

​@@CBALLENI think when we are obedient, God gives us Faith. 1 Timothy 1:4 refutes OSAS. If some depart from "The Faith" OSAS believers have to say, they were never saved to begin with. OSAS is a time will tell doctrine. Abiding Faithfull is our security.

@archaicgoon5990 God loved us when we were dead in sin , He made us alive with Christ by grace and gave us faith Eph 2 4-5

You will be called names like "son of the devil", because of your JW pic. LOL

Debate him then if you're so confident you know more than Sam.

I do think a moderator may be helpful for future debates I have on the channel. Someone else recently said that as well.

Information is in the details, Sam is breaking it up as he talks to prove where he is wrong. When we make a decision that something is wrong, we have many reasons to support our belief and sometimes it is because we reject something in the earlier days which could be the mistake of ignorance or rebellion.

Initially, I really had a very high opinion of Sam, his knowledge of the Word of God, etc. However, in a very short time watching his videos, I have lost the desire to watch his videos or debates. It seems that Sam has a serious issue with impulsiveness and anger, and it's hard for him to stand corrected. He reminds me of one of my Christian brothers back in the US, who despite his zeal for the Lord has allowed his testimony to be diminished by the same behavior. What really ticks me off, is the fact that Sam hates when he's interrupted, or when someone is trying to talk over him, yet he does the same and that 10x worse.

@@mr.jollybear5180 true. I stopped watching him as well. He acknowledges that he has this issue of bad temper and anger seemingly every stream, but does absolutely nothing about it.

Say you're protestant without saying you're protestant