Faith and Works: Do James and Paul Disagree on Justification? 

📠. “By works faith was made perfect” James 2:22 When we act on what we believe our faith is made matured (perfect). Shabbat shalom!

a most excellent breakdown and explanation that makes perfect sense in accordance with scripture! Shalom

Faith /Grace movement in Church today includes no good work. All you have to do it is blab it. Then grab it. No adhering to the law. They also hijacked Paul’s letters to support the Grace message and not have to live Torah. Do as thou wilt ( which Satanist Alister Crowley says to live this way) but ask forgiveness after it and you will have right standing with Yahweh. Doing the works in alignment with commandments is what makes one righteous.

SHABBAT SHALOM 🙌🏽 THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRECISE AND CLEAR TEACHING . IM VERY BLESSED BY IT. THANKS SO MUCH FOR HELPING ME GROW IN FAITH AND OBEDIENCE. SHALOM!!

Grace faith and works are all ASPECTS OF GOD'S LOVE. Love is undeserved kindness, his love gives us faith and the desire to do good works.

Shabbat shalom ❤️

תודה רבה דוד וכולם במשרד 119. שבת שלום ויברכך יהוה וישמרך.

We are taught in the typical church today Salvation can only be achieved by Faith and reliance on Gods Grace. It’s not achieved by good works (lest we could boast). Acknowledging the Law/Torah as applicable in our lives today is completely rejected. The fact the services are held on the First Day of the week (Sunday) rather than the Seventh (Sabbath) makes it abundantly clear. If one were to ask the reason why this is in a typical Sunday Church the answer will always be the same. They quote from Paul’s writings every time. The question must be asked then. Is this all due to a misunderstanding?

It’s crazy that Martin Luther was gonna throw out James cause he didn’t agree with Paul. Even though James clearly agrees with Yahweh and Christ. Christianity today still holds on to Paul and discards Yahweh, Christ, and all the other apostles.

"Works of the Law" is a phase that refers to the "commandments of men," known today as Talmud. When reading Scripture you are challenged to determine which law is the subject, law of Moshe or law of the Pharisees.

Excellent presentation!

If we have faith then we abide by the laws of that faith. The Ten Commandments are a good place to start...and we find that the works of the wicked will keep us busy defending our faith. Paul and James were each correct...but Jesus Christ, in his teaching to the Seven Churches in Asia, got it absolutely correct...and it is his teaching that gives every Christian their faith...but, more than this, was Jesus 'working' in his ministry for his Father?

Working out your faith! Shows you are trusting God! Example! I will walk to school this morning in Faith trusting that God will protect me.

Amen. Shabat shalom to all observers. Yeshua said to Satan ( though I wonder who He was talking to really ) men shall not live by bread alone but by***EVERY WORD***that proceeds from the mouth of GOD ( for me that includes HIS COMMANDMENTS , plus there are alot of blessings). The grass withers, the flowers fades. But the WORD of our GOD***STANDS FOREVER***.

Faith made it possible for us to earn the reward, which is “everlasting life” by obedience to the Word/instructions/ordnances/right rulings/Laws given to Moses… Faith is not earned but obedience to the “WHOLE” scripture is earned

Great teaching brother!!! Many Christians are into this Sabbath thing saying we have to keep it!! I do not believe we are under that today in the dispensation of grace!! Could you give a teaching on this?!!!

THE LAW IS GOOD, AND SHOWED US WE ARE IN SIN, AND WE NEED YAHUSHA HA'MESHIACH ARE GOOD SHEPHERD. 🌟 📜🔥🌈 🐑 🐑 🐑 🌬🐐 🐺🌠⚡️🌏

The key word is ALONE. James is a correct translation. Ephesians has subtracted the word ALONE, it should read NOT OF WORKS ALONE, lest any man boast. The Bible never says saved by grace or faith ALONE. The true doctrine, we are saved by GOD'S LOVE ALONE through his grace, gift of faith and works.

In Hebrews it says the gospel was preached to those in the desert but they had no faith. From what I understand, there is the gospel, the Law, and, the gospel of Yahushua by whom we come to the Father.....

FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD its closely the same on science Theory plus work equals Power

Abraham obeyed God in his "works" of putting Isaac on the altar because he had faith that God would somehow save his son, which God did. Works justify faith.

Another thing to consider is James is speaking spiritually about works not physically meaning the desire to do the works within the heart. Because the definition of a work is subjective and were clearly not saved by what we do, but if we don't have the heart and readiness to do it then we don't have the works within our heart and can't be justified.

No, ...before you can do good, you have to have faith. Like before you can enter ,the door have to be open.

Bottom line, its either in your heart to seek out a matter because you want to do what your Father has instructed you to do, and you will not rest until the matter has been resolved according to study of the word alone, not tradition or teaching. You want Yah to be proud of you just like any good child, it is your lifes mission to make your Father proud. In this way you use the scriptures to justify your hearts desire, which in this case is obedience. And others will do the same, use the scriptures to do what is in their heart... which is their will, not Yahs. And it is there where the sheep and the goats are separated. Ever wonder why the wicked sacrifice goats.... when the sheep are gathered by their shepherd, whom they know, the goats are left outside the gate.

The Bible has a funny way of being additive in how it presents information. Line upon line, here a precept, there a precept. If Paul says faith and James say works, then it's Faith AND Works together. Funny too how to this is captured in Father's Holy Days. First Passover, which is the faith of being covered and saved in the blood of Christ, then the Feast of the Unleavened Bread, where you're asked to take action in the removal of sin in your life. Even the order is significant: first Faith, then Works. First belief, then Action. It is as beautiful as it is simple.

Paul is talking about getting grafted into the vine and becoming heirs to the promise. Getting grafted into the vine is a free gift based on faith not works. We hear the word, believe, repent, and recieve the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the downpayment of the inheritance, proof we are grafted into the vine. Jame is talking about staying grafted into the vine. Once we have the Holy Spirit it starts writing Gods laws on our hearts and we disciple after Jesus's behavior. If we are following the Holy Spirit and discipling after Jesus, there should be fruit that is produced. The branches that dont produce fruit wither and are burned. ‭Romans 11:16-24 ESV‬ [16] If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches. [17] But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, [18] do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. [19] Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” [20] That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. [21] For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. [22] Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. [23] And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. [24] For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree. ‭John 15:1-11 ESV‬ [1] “I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. [2] Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. [3] Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. [4] Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. [5] I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. [6] If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned. [7] If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. [8] By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples. [9] As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Abide in my love. [10] If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love. [11] These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full.

Yes you can believe in your head a historical Jesus who died upon the cross, mental ascent. But it has to be in the heart to save you, born again!!! Faith came 400 yrs before the law!!!

They don't disagree. James has a different audience to Paul. Gal 2:7 - KJV, VUL, Duoay Rheims Paul - Gospel OF UNcircumcision. Peter, John, James - Gospel OF circumcision.

comparing apples and oranges equals orangles

Luther was antisemitic so his opinion means less than nothing to me.

Faith IS believing what Yah says. If we believe what He says, our actions line up. Yah says OBEDIENCE is the way to salvation. "Obey Me and you will live." "If you want to enter life, keep the commandments" Salvation is a gift and we didn't deserve it because we've already broken Yah's law. But to gain it, we believe Yah and do what He says. He says OBEY. "I know that His command leads to eternal life." The "works of the law" being discussed that flagrantly contradicts Yah if it's talking about His law, is of course, NOT talking about His law. It's talking about talmud. Oral law. Following the works of rabbinical law that was going on in their day and now. Yeshua confronted it all the time. A handwashing ritual, defining work on Sabbath as healing or picking heads of grain, fasting from all meat (vegetarian) in case it was sacrificed to an idol during slaughter, forbidden to pick up anything on Sabbath, a Sabbath day's walk, even preparation day. NONE OF THAT is in Torah. Men made up those commands. Paul also confronted this in Galatians. He railed against brit periah. Timothy, of course, obeyed brit milah. Paul agreed. "Keeping God's commands is what counts." You're doing all kind of gymnastics in order to elevate Paul's words or James' words above Yah/Yeshua's. Unless any writer confirms Yah or Yeshua, they are in error. Therefore, you need no gymnastics. Yah/Yeshua tell us our obedience to Yah's law is what will save us and if we refuse to obey Yah's law, (lawless) we will be rejected. Any writer who does not uphold that doctrine, is a false teacher. So you can try as hard as you can to define terms but bottom line, either Paul and James made it past a Torah examination or they didn't. If they did, they are confirming Yah/Yeshua, not contradicting them. Our job is to make it past a Torah examination as well. Who are we actually following? Paul? James? Someone else NOT crucified for us? You better think long and hard on that one!

Salvation and justification are simply two sides of the same coin with different meanings. Those who negelct to study firther on Paul and claim that he is a false prophet, are not believers of the whole word of God. Deuteronomy 4:2,12:32

At 4:25 you lay out the different connotations of words based on CONTEXT, yet you FAIL to address the Elephant in the room concerning Paul verses James, and their differing uses of the word "justification." The failure occurs when you don't address the party to whom the justification is ascribed by. Christians are "declared Righteous" or "Saved" the very moment they hear the Gospel, and BELIEVE IT. Ephesians 1:13-14 'In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.' James is NOT addressing Justification ascribed by God in James 2. This would be in absolute contradiction to what Paul teaches us here: Galatians 2:16 'knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.' The correct CONTEXT of who James is saying that justification is ascribed by can be found here: James 2:15-16 'If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed ⚠for the body⚠, what does it profit?' James is talking about Faith in action. He is NOT addressing Justification to God. He is talking about being justified to mankind, as a witness of Faith, NOT TO BOAST, but to bring glory to God, as the Holy Spirit works through you to spread the Gospel! Works also result in rewards in Heaven, but that's an entirely different topic. It's very simple: If you believe your works contribute to why you're Saved, you are rejecting what Christ Jesus did by shedding His PERFECT BLOOD on the cross FOR YOU.

Reject false teachings and false prophets as Jesus, James, and the apostles rejected Paul the apostate

So, in effect, you're saying the one word - "justified" - in James 2:24 means two different things in the same sentence (!!) - one meaning with respect to "works" and another meaning with respect to "faith". Your interpretation amounts to grammatical nonsense and a false teaching. That verse make grammatical sense only if James is applying the same meaning of "justified" to works as he is to faith. Stop twisting the words of Scripture to fit your false "faith alone" doctrine.

These days I don't see what is missing to realise Paul writing are only to expose what is in reality a a false apostle a antichrist. One only need to read Jesus words and then Paul to make it obvioust.