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@amtlpaul
@amtlpaul 26 дней назад
If I don't know, I don't know. "I dont know, therefore I do know through faith" is an incoherent position.
@BaalsMistress
@BaalsMistress 22 дня назад
mmm. I don't know, but I believe. I understand that belief does not have a good foundation, but believe anyhow would be a coherent position. Noone ever calls in and actually acknowledges that position.
@AdrieKooijman
@AdrieKooijman 9 дней назад
Someone calling in with that position will not pass the call screeners.
@davidbelway6076
@davidbelway6076 25 дней назад
When I was a child the christian community told me, that faith can move mountains. I gave it an heart felt try, and saw zero results. So, before I turned 6 I was completely unwilling to accept it. have a nice day.
@HalfCrazy520
@HalfCrazy520 25 дней назад
I went to Christian schools thru 8th grade. I was the kid raising his hand and pointing out things like: "Wait... Adam and Eve didn't know the difference between right and wrong until AFTER they ate the fruit, but we are all sinners at birth due to their uninformed decision? God can speak a universe into existence, but he can't 'create' a fence around a tree? And why would he want them to remain ignorant?". The response was always an excuse... a lame justification... "We cannot understand the mind of God" or "The Lord works in mysterious ways". That's just the first chapter in the silly story of God's failures we call The Bible. The indoctrination didn't work on me. I would expect God to be smarter than I am... but apparently he isn't.
@KeesKouwenberg
@KeesKouwenberg 21 день назад
@@HalfCrazy520 Could be my life story :) I was exactly the same.
@HalfCrazy520
@HalfCrazy520 21 день назад
@@KeesKouwenberg The Priest: If you don't have faith, why are you in youth group and an altar boy and help out around here so much? Me: Honestly, because it makes my mom happy, the youth group leader is hot, and when you're not looking, I drink the wine.
@KeesKouwenberg
@KeesKouwenberg 21 день назад
@@HalfCrazy520 HAHAHAHA, I was an altar boy too when in grammar school (60 in two days now), I was there for the annual trip :)
@HalfCrazy520
@HalfCrazy520 21 день назад
@@KeesKouwenberg Well, Happy Birthday! I turned 64 in May. I was thinking this morning about the times I had the priest backed in a corner with a question or a bible contradiction he couldn't explain. His Olympic level mental gymnastics in response never made any sense to me. I'm pretty sure he hated me.
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 26 дней назад
Faith is good for fooling yourself that you have evidence.
@kelseykjarsgaard5774
@kelseykjarsgaard5774 25 дней назад
Why didn't you tell me this earlier lmao
@MrMattSax
@MrMattSax 25 дней назад
The idea that at one point gods were showing up, walking around, walking on water, making animals talk, etc and that this happens to coincide with a time that humans were ignorant of the scientific method, largely illiterate, superstitious, and largely consumed with concerns of survival and procreation is so ridiculous as to be utterly absurd.
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 25 дней назад
@@MrMattSax Yet, the theists that crop up here can’t seem to understand that simple fact
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 24 дня назад
The idea that the chirpy god of the OT is the same character as the absent father god in the NT is hilarious. I have absolutely no issue with how the NT pressed how people should treat one another. Connecting that back to the Bronze Age Palestinian god of judgement is really f*ckin rich though 😂
@HalfCrazy520
@HalfCrazy520 24 дня назад
It isn't lost on me that the bible reads like it was written by MEN in the iron age... Women have no rights and, unless they're a virgin, no value either. The Christian faith is absurd from start to finish.
@timothywilliams4089
@timothywilliams4089 25 дней назад
He's so confused; Confucius say 'it is impossible to wake someone who is pretending to be asleep'....
@Mr_Porter
@Mr_Porter 27 дней назад
This call, in a nutshell: If you believe the claims, then they must be true. For this caller, the claim itself is all the evidence needed-no need for pesky things like facts or logical consistency. It’s like saying, “I’m convinced because I’m convinced,” and calling it a day. It’s a masterclass in circular reasoning, where the only evidence you need is your own conviction.
@jayrose8638
@jayrose8638 26 дней назад
Can you imagine what it would be like seeing a sci-fi movie with them? Maddening.
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 26 дней назад
@@jayrose8638that is a terrible thought…ugh..
@d_camara
@d_camara 25 дней назад
No, if people believe in MY preferred claims then it's enough evidence they're true. As for other claims, they're delusional and manipulated
@mattjindrak
@mattjindrak 24 дня назад
That's why I do think belief is a choice
@bazingaburg8264
@bazingaburg8264 19 дней назад
@@mattjindrak To whatever degree choice is involved, it's made under duress. Thankfully, trying to affirm my belief, actually reading the damn book, broke it beyond repair. Isaiah 45:7 is clear, God is not the good guy if he's behind everything good And evil. Once its moral authority was busted, i felt free to doubt and question. Andrew Seidel is right, the road to atheism is littered with bibles read cover to cover.
@davidbelway6076
@davidbelway6076 25 дней назад
Faith is the art of lying to yourself. Critical thinking is the art of questioning yourself.
@reefhog
@reefhog 25 дней назад
Neither of those are arts.
@adelMN2
@adelMN2 24 дня назад
@@reefhog i think it's meant as a metaphor
@sander3130
@sander3130 26 дней назад
the brain gymnastics required for religion is truly amazing ...
@ngcastronerd4791
@ngcastronerd4791 25 дней назад
I think in his case its more of a failure to compute. I posit that he did not present one original thought of his own during this call.
@HalfCrazy520
@HalfCrazy520 25 дней назад
@@ngcastronerd4791 In order to present an original thought, he would first need the intelligence to formulate one. Then again, if he could think for himself, he wouldn't be calling in to the show and embarrassing himself.
@eukaryote-prime
@eukaryote-prime 24 дня назад
@@ngcastronerd4791I don’t think I’ve heard a presup conclude their “argument” with “swish”, so that’s original I guess 🤷
@ngcastronerd4791
@ngcastronerd4791 24 дня назад
@@eukaryote-prime i wasnt being serious. Not that the call deserved serious thought.
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 22 дня назад
And it requires copious amounts of self deception.
@mattarnold4903
@mattarnold4903 26 дней назад
Could one religious person not tapdance around when questioned, be honest and say "I have no evidence to believe god exists" or say "I believe because I'm gullible", which is the position of EVERY religious person
@rbwinn3
@rbwinn3 26 дней назад
I have the scriptures, personal revelation, and can look at what atheists have and see that they have nothing that I want.
@mattarnold4903
@mattarnold4903 26 дней назад
@rbwinn3 We have a free life, not restricted by what you think god wants you to do. Nothing about religion is a positive to me. If god is real, he was responsible and could have stopped all the horrors throughout history. If he could have stopped them happening, but chose not to, he's nothing but a horrible entity who DESERVES zero praise or worship. He's a monster and is evil
@jayrose8638
@jayrose8638 26 дней назад
Note that this thread contains several examples of folks supporting OP’s claim by failing to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods or other divine or supernatural beings.
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 26 дней назад
@@JimCastleberryAnd you’re no better. You come claiming this and that but can’t give one shred of evidence to back them up.
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 26 дней назад
​@@rbwinn3are you aware of the eternal consequences if you don't accept atheism into your heart?
@Jcs57
@Jcs57 26 дней назад
When you get down to the nitty gritty his beliefs were handed down to him and are contingent on his latitude and longitude.
@BaalsMistress
@BaalsMistress 22 дня назад
Indeed. As a child, I was a Roman Catholic. If I'd been born in Tel Aviv instead of where I was, I'd almost certaly have been Jewish as a child. Eventually I came to the position of "I'm told that god exists and knows everything and can do anything. If I make an assumption that god exists, then I have to conclude that either god doesn't know about huge numbers of events, or that god can't intervene, or that god is an asshole." Went from there to either god doesn't exist, or is impotent, or is an asshole and in all three cases, no point in being Roman Catholic anymore.
@roccoedwards
@roccoedwards 25 дней назад
2 minutes in you can tell this caller wasn't going to say anything of substance
@garystokes9979
@garystokes9979 23 дня назад
Tyler is the grand master of circular argument.
@kasplatz553
@kasplatz553 25 дней назад
I think I've discovered a new law: As the amount of evidence for a claim increases, the ability of a theist to cite one of those pieces of evidence decreases.
@catch_me_outside_how_bout_dat
@catch_me_outside_how_bout_dat 23 дня назад
The purported magnitude of evidence is inversely related to the ability to cite said evidence
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 22 дня назад
What would be a good name for this new law? Hmmm…how about “law of inverted rationality” or “law of reduced rationality”? If anyone has better, I’d like to hear it lol.
@catch_me_outside_how_bout_dat
@catch_me_outside_how_bout_dat 22 дня назад
@@ZeitgeistOmega How about the law diminished capacity
@catch_me_outside_how_bout_dat
@catch_me_outside_how_bout_dat 21 день назад
@@ZeitgeistOmega Can you see my replies?
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 21 день назад
I can see your replies, and yes, I like that answer better than mine.
@miitheweirdartist6794
@miitheweirdartist6794 25 дней назад
I'm so sick of these dumb callers.
@youtubestudiosucks978
@youtubestudiosucks978 25 дней назад
If they were smart then they wouldnt be religious
@PauloBarreto15041964
@PauloBarreto15041964 26 дней назад
If there was historical documentation about Jesus being god, it will officially terminate all other religions. From that point in time there will be no atheism, no Judaism, no Budism, nothing! we will all be Christians. What a ridiculous thing to say.
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 26 дней назад
I wouldn't be a Christian, belief and worship are not mutually inclusive.
@PauloBarreto15041964
@PauloBarreto15041964 25 дней назад
@@joshsheridan9511 absolutely. I hate the results of bombs, nevertheless I can't state I am not a science adept. You will be a different kind of christian. One who know there's a god and how he is, but who does not worship him. Because it won't be a belief, it would be a knowledge.
@reefhog
@reefhog 25 дней назад
So you obviously don’t know that Buddhism is a non theistic religion and there are many other non theistic religions.
@BaalsMistress
@BaalsMistress 22 дня назад
The problem with documentation is that it is hard to know the extent to which the views of the author coloured it. Sometimes it's hard to know what the actual purpose was. Galaxy Quest having an alien race mistake television for historical records was a great example.
@terrencelockett4072
@terrencelockett4072 21 день назад
It also depends on what you think a Christian actually is. We would probably all be theists but not really Christians, depending on what you would consider a Christian. Then there would probably still be atheists, because there would still be some that wouldn't accept the evidence. Also, with just taking what's said here, having factual data of Jesus being god outside of the bible doesn't necessarily prove the bible though. Jesus could be God and a lot of stuff about Jesus in the bible could be wrong. Then Jesus himself in the bible wasn't necessarily trying to create a new religion, he might still want people to be Jewish, and all he wanted was for Judaism to be what he considered was true. Jesus could be a real god and never actually "died" for our sins. This also wouldn't inherently disprove other theistic religions who believe in different gods, that would just be proof of gods existing not that no other gods exist.
@HeardFromMeFirst
@HeardFromMeFirst 25 дней назад
Very depressing that so many people have the same skewed reasoning on this planet as Tyler
@Skeptic236
@Skeptic236 25 дней назад
The frustration in listening callers of Tyler's ilk is their comments about "historical evidence" indicates they haven't a clue what hIstorical evidence actually is.
@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral
@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral 26 дней назад
But it feels so real to Tyler 🥴
@davidbelway6076
@davidbelway6076 25 дней назад
Tyler has the ability to be honest, but he only uses it when he's cornered. Keep at it Tyler, you just need to leap past the hurdle of denial,
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 26 дней назад
I have faith that this caller wants to say that atheists and theists use the same methods to come to their beliefs and will fail miserably in his presentation.
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 26 дней назад
​@@JimCastleberrywhen I convert will you attend my baptism?
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 26 дней назад
@@JimCastleberryI’d rather follow the evidence of how reality ACTUALLY works then any “evidence” you spew, which is to say, none at all.
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 26 дней назад
​@@JimCastleberrythat's really interesting. So did the caller do a good job of making a case for faith?
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 26 дней назад
​@@JimCastleberryif there's fine tuning and intelligent design then why did your god put you so deep on the spectrum to make you this way?
@quentind1924
@quentind1924 26 дней назад
​​@@JimCastleberryIt’s a fallacy to give a huge amount of examples to overwhelm the other person. Only pick two of them (the two examples you’re the most sure we can’t have any reply), explain them in a few lines instead of just the name, and we will see if they are really evidence or not. If you avoid the question and not pick two of them, i’ll pick them myself and it will also show your dishonesty
@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral
@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral 26 дней назад
Tyler, you're in way over your head
@smochygrice465
@smochygrice465 26 дней назад
Faith is good, but Beer is definitely better 🍺 And a good Saturday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠☝️
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 25 дней назад
Only if it's home brewed or German.
@devb9912
@devb9912 25 дней назад
@@joshsheridan9511 Belgian, you heathen!
@sanjeevgig8918
@sanjeevgig8918 26 дней назад
The bible is true because it says in the bible that the bible is true. The claim in Chapter 1 Verse 2 is true because it says so in Chapter 3 Verse 4 Circular reasoning loves me, this I know, because Circular Reasoning tells me so. LOLZ
@brucewilliams4152
@brucewilliams4152 26 дней назад
Perhaps Tyler should consider we have no contemporary historical records or evidence from the reign of Augustus or Tiberius Caesar for jesus
@sebastianoviedo253
@sebastianoviedo253 24 дня назад
Lmaoo this argument reminds me of the Boondocks “there’s things we know we know, things we know we know we don’t know, also things we don’t know we don’t know.” 😂 The absent of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
@Beastt17
@Beastt17 24 дня назад
We should believe in God on faith because we don't know everything? GREAT! Does Tyler believe in Santa Claus, fairies, leprechauns, mermaids and unicorns on faith because he doesn't know everything? The CONTORTIONS of logic that theists are willing to use are just STAGGERING!
@mastone3609
@mastone3609 25 дней назад
Ask god to send someone with more legible grammar next time.
@mannybaquero2129
@mannybaquero2129 25 дней назад
Why can theists just admit that they can not prove their belief ??? Their explanation is always based on FEELINGS !!! “I feel blah blah blah so is true” 😖
@adelMN2
@adelMN2 24 дня назад
you answered your own question it's => feelings
@Seticzech
@Seticzech 26 дней назад
Yes, faith is good, faith supported by reason and reality. Definitely not faith in some iron age ridiculous mythology.
@Specialeffecks
@Specialeffecks 25 дней назад
It would be refreshing if theists would just admit they do not know if their religion is true, but that they believe it because they benefit (feel better) from the belief. Tip: the moment it stops making you feel better, dump it, as there are other religions, or you can choose none.
@michaelmcaree6296
@michaelmcaree6296 25 дней назад
That argument is promoted often. "The effect of belief in God is more important than whether the belief is true." Jpordan Peterson runs with that all the time, claiming that wihtout a belief in God, there would be no art, no literature, no philosophy, all because humans would lack a "metaphorical substrate." it's hilariously silly.
@ARoll925
@ARoll925 26 дней назад
Tyler you're making Maryland look really stupid, and this with the poll yesterday that 26% of Kamala Harris's voter have decides to vote for Larry Hogan, it is asinine, voting for Harris while not giving her the Senate to do anything, I'm so pissed at my state right now
@markwoods4439
@markwoods4439 26 дней назад
Why some theists believe faith is a sign of virtue or belief😳
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 25 дней назад
Because their bible tells them to use the force, oops I mean faith 😁😁😁
@quentind1924
@quentind1924 25 дней назад
Becase the bible says so...
@quentind1924
@quentind1924 25 дней назад
​@@JimCastleberryOr you just say "it’s probably true, but i don’t know" instead of "having faith"
@markwoods4439
@markwoods4439 25 дней назад
@@JimCastleberry Atheism is primarily on reason and facts. To be gullible enough as faith belief means falling for to much😡
@tonyclements1147
@tonyclements1147 25 дней назад
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠You just can’t spell theism correctly can you? “Theism is a denial of reason - the inability to reason through uncertainty.” You’re welcome Edith.
@Mr_Rouge
@Mr_Rouge 26 дней назад
Don't you think Joseph Smith made a typo?... 🤔
@skblack5050
@skblack5050 25 дней назад
Has anyone encountered someone that thinks if you don't believe in their christian god, Therefore you must believe in Satan.
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 25 дней назад
Not personally, as far as I can recall, but definitely seen videos over the years of the more fire and brimstone type of preachers use that kinda language.
@adelMN2
@adelMN2 24 дня назад
yes occasionally, it's rare tho
@jc6800
@jc6800 20 дней назад
I remember sounding just like this caller.
@jaimep4888
@jaimep4888 25 дней назад
circular thinking...
@jasonharris8486
@jasonharris8486 10 дней назад
Columbus had the false belief that he could more easily get to India by sailing west across the Atlantic. That false belief had one of the most significant impacts on the world ever.
@elisawhitman8526
@elisawhitman8526 19 дней назад
I’ve never met a theist who doesn’t fall victim to the following belief: “If I really want something to be true, then it must be true.” Every theist confuses desire for knowledge.
@walterdaems57
@walterdaems57 25 дней назад
Believing and fate are the gold plated excuses to stop thinking: Daniel Denneth. Believe in me, have fate in me. First words of every conman
@randyzeitman1354
@randyzeitman1354 25 дней назад
SPECULATIONS ARE NOT BELIEFS.
@adelMN2
@adelMN2 24 дня назад
technically it is when you look at the definition of belief
@riccardozanoni2531
@riccardozanoni2531 23 дня назад
@@adelMN2 i don't think that's the case. Speculations are rarely an acceptance of anything as true without proof. they are without proof, but they are not an acceptance of something as true. They wouldn't be speculations otherwise.
@Specialeffecks
@Specialeffecks 25 дней назад
When people are surrounded by other people that are convinced of a religion, those people can and do also often become convinced of that religion. It happens with every religion and the results are similar - lives are changed. But all religions cannot be true as they make different claims. This means reasonably (if we want to believe true things) we must FIRST test any testable claims before accepting one of the religion's claims. If any claim is untestable, again we must wait for it to become testable and then test it BEFORE accepting any claim. Of course, if one's purpose for accepting the claim is for reasons OTHER than confirming the claim true (comfort, always been told, provides a sense of purpose, made me feel better when I was down, placates one's existential dread and fear of the unknown, etc.) - then to be honest, admit that, and then have fun with it, because the reason for accepting the claim is NOT because the claim is demonstrably true.
@elisawhitman8526
@elisawhitman8526 19 дней назад
Public schools need to spend a LOT more time teaching students about the definition of “proof,” or what constitutes evidence.
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 21 день назад
Belief in the absence of sufficient evidence...is a virtue? How? Why?
@smoochfa973
@smoochfa973 15 дней назад
"Impact" 😭
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 9 часов назад
This topic has been thrashed to death !
@richardowens9061
@richardowens9061 12 дней назад
What Christians seem not to understand is that it does not matter whether Jesus ever existed, or not - and, here's why: If Jesus was a real person who actually lived upon the Earth, all we have left of him are the words and events ascribed to him by others. And, if Jesus never existed as a real person who actually lived upon the Earth, all we have left of him are the words and events ascribed to him by others. See? No difference. Jesus was ostensibly a teacher. So, what matters are his teachings and whether, or not, they have application in our lives today. And, that is something we can each discern for ourselves, whether Jesus ever actually existed, or not.
@RWGish
@RWGish 25 дней назад
Of course Santa Claus is real, he gives me Christmas presents every year tagged "from Santa." He always gives me exactly what I ask for in the letters I write to him that Mom mails for me. I love Christmas. I get presents from Mom and Dad and, hey wait a minute.........!
@JonathanBushnell-h8w
@JonathanBushnell-h8w 19 дней назад
Caller: “I believe this bullshit, theology, ‘cause I was culturally, brought up with it and told to believe it even though there is no evidence to base my beliefs on!” Welcome to religion!
@WayWalker3
@WayWalker3 13 дней назад
belief = conviction, or confidence in something without necessarily having evidence. It's opinion, not truth.
@Gerryjournal
@Gerryjournal 20 дней назад
It must always come back to what created the creator
@sanjeevgig8918
@sanjeevgig8918 26 дней назад
The gospel of John was written in 90-100 AD = DECADES after Jesus was dead. Josephus born 37 AD - AFTER Jesus was dead. Tacitus born 56 AD - AFTER Jesus was dead. They wrote DECADES after the fact. Jesus was performing MAGIC TRICKS in front of all these people and conveniently NO ONE WROTE about it while he was ALIVE. LOLZ
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 25 дней назад
@@sanjeevgig8918 preach brother! Spread the good word on how ignorant these theist trolls are!
@MichaelPosenke-el9to
@MichaelPosenke-el9to 25 дней назад
Ghandi had significant impact on those around him, so did Buddha and Alexander the great and Michael Jackson, big hairy deal. It proves nothing
@joels5150
@joels5150 2 дня назад
The cognitive dissonance of every theist who admits that every religion (aside from the very specific version of religion they subscribe to) could be wrong, and still be impactful, formative, beneficial, etc, and then they will immediately do a special pleading for their religion being the truth, even though they have zero evidence that proves their religion is true compared to all the other religions they just dismiss out of hand. They deserve no credibility.
@67cudaksa34
@67cudaksa34 16 дней назад
Evert time a christian mentions tactius, none of them can say what tactius said. they are just parroting
@fantasticmio
@fantasticmio 21 день назад
My life was massively changed for the better when I was diagnosed and treated for ADHD. Does that make Vyvance God?
@seraeirian2
@seraeirian2 25 дней назад
Comets had a major impact on the way people thought. Is Halley's comet God then, Tyler?
@tristen_grant
@tristen_grant 22 дня назад
I guess so.
@jeoffwalden4492
@jeoffwalden4492 6 дней назад
There is only one answer If you can prove a God there would be no atheist
@20yrsfarming
@20yrsfarming 25 дней назад
I want to see the notepad by Tyler’s bed, the one where he writes down what he dreams at night.
@seekerhonest
@seekerhonest 22 дня назад
Faith is, what made the Canaanites sacrifice some of their babies to their gods.
@tristen_grant
@tristen_grant 22 дня назад
So faith is a mental illness?
@rogerbee697
@rogerbee697 18 дней назад
I think the caller just invented a new logical fallacy. The fallacy of impact. The claim impacted many people, therefore, the claim is true-ish.🙄
@RosieRoserules
@RosieRoserules 23 дня назад
Even if the story is true in the Bible is true and God is real it's a horrible story from a horrible being
@richardowens9061
@richardowens9061 12 дней назад
Faith is the tool of deceivers and those who would allow themselves to be deceived. If someone, anyone, demands your faith, look to why they might be trying to deceive you - because, they are. Doubt is the tool of those who would earnestly seek the truth. If something is true, it will be able to withstand and assuage doubt. That Christianity glorifies faith, while demonizing doubt, indicts it as a deception. Having said that, though, faith does have its application in our lives. For example, it is through having faith in ourselves that we develop the confidence we need to overcome challenges that we face. We have no evidence that we will accomplish tasks we have never attempted - but, our faith in ourselves empowers us to make the attempt, anyway. Furthermore, we have faith in our scientific principles and processes - even though, we have no way of knowing whether they will always be sound. All we can do is the best we can do and have faith in the processes, while being willing to be incorrect about it all for the sake of learning something new. Finally, even as an atheist, if there is a God (whatever that is) and it has anything to say to me, I have faith that he knows where I am and how to say it so I know it is really him. Therefore, I ignore anyone and everyone who would claim to speak on God's behalf - especially, if they lived and died thousands of years ago. That "God" has never reached out to tell me anything tells me that he must think I am getting along just fine without him.
@KGP221
@KGP221 11 дней назад
If Jesus is God incarnate and referred to as the word of God, how absurd is it that he didn't write words when he supposedly walked the earth?
@dalecs47
@dalecs47 3 дня назад
Call it religion if you want, I call it lies and fantasy at gunpoint! I have no respect for people of faith. Not being satisfied with the freedom to believe in their own religion they far to often insist on forcing me to believe, listen to them “Respectfully,” obey them and their rules, live my life the way they order me to live and give them my money, either directly or through the taxes that I pay.
@uncleanunicorn4571
@uncleanunicorn4571 20 дней назад
Well sure, If I imagine spider man is real then doctor octopus becomes a foregone conclusion...
@shmootube5000
@shmootube5000 25 дней назад
non-theist here, but not sure how “atheism requires a degree of faith” turns into “but you can’t prove jesus was god, go back in time and video record him flying and flinging loaves and fishes from his hands”
@joecoolioness6399
@joecoolioness6399 19 дней назад
Not believing in santa claus requires faith then?
@shmootube5000
@shmootube5000 19 дней назад
@@joecoolioness6399 Irrelevant to the comment I made which was about HOW the caller’s argument was “debunked” not the caller’s argument’s validity, but sure I’ll answer your question. Imagine you’re 5, you never caught your parents hiding presents, you don’t yet understand how hard it would be running a global distribution business from the north pole, and don’t know how to do the math on minutes in a night to chimneys around the world, but little Timmy from the playground says “Santa’s not real“, yeah, that would require a small leap of faith since you don’t have the resources and knowledge to discount Santa on your own. If you’d like me to use the same example for defending a god’s existence which I don’t have any interest in doing in the first place, I would say by comparison, we are five-year-olds in the universe who never caught their mommy tiptoeing around at night, making spacetime expand exponentially faster, or conjuring quarks from energy, and even though it’s clear that the pope is just a man in a costume, we still lack the knowledge to completely explain away what we don’t understand, especially since there’s any number or manner of possible Santas that could be out there. Hey I never realized how valid the Santa argument actually is AGAINST atheism, this has been interesting thanks.
@colinlavery625
@colinlavery625 15 дней назад
An antelope is innocently munching grass on the African savannah. A lion sneaks up and tears that antelope to pieces. Can you imagine the pain and suffering involved ??? God designed the universe, we are told therefore ultimately God is responsible. If God exist, are we talking about a good God or an evil God or no God at all ???
@Shokunin_Spirit
@Shokunin_Spirit 25 дней назад
Not a religious person myself but I happen to live in a so called "third world country" which has been struggling to maintain peace between its different religious communities since its birth. So, I am the last person who needs to be convinced of the social curse that is religious fundamentalism. But I see numerous people around me who are empowered by their religious beliefs to dedicate their lives in the service of humanity without asking for anything in return. And I also see countless people who have been born into impossibly difficult circumstances and who should literally have no material reason to want to live. There's no light at the end of the tunnel for those folks. They don't have the luxury of sitting in air conditioned rooms and debating the philosophy of religion. Their faith in a higher power is the only thing that keeps them going. You guys might look at those people and call them fools but it'll never not be cruel to try to talk them out of their faith.
@adelMN2
@adelMN2 24 дня назад
Even if their circumstances are crap believing in a deity or not will not change those circumstances... so i don't think it matters at all, in fact it tend to make things worse by adding problems (religious rules/indoctrination/abuse) on top of the already existing ones, which is why i always have to explain that reality is independant to your way of thinking/perception you won't solve anything if you keep finding excuses and rationalizations.
@Shokunin_Spirit
@Shokunin_Spirit 22 дня назад
​@@adelMN2 In my admittedly limited personal experience, I haven't met anyone who believes that God will come down and lead them out of their misery by the hand. Almost every religious person understands that it is only through effort that things improve. But many people find it fulfilling to center their existence around the doctrine of a higher power. When you're about to step off a ledge and end it all, it's not cold hard logic and argument that holds you back. There's no right or wrong in all this. Just fundamentally different ways of living life. The truth is, when you find something that truly works, you lose interest in everything else including the urge to convince others of your point of view. ✌
@steveymoon
@steveymoon 27 дней назад
Why does this video say "background play is unavailable for this video"?
@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral
@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral 26 дней назад
Press ALT+F4
@steveymoon
@steveymoon 26 дней назад
@@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral - on my phone?
@johns1625
@johns1625 26 дней назад
You lost connection briefly or your screen locked while loading. Just refresh.
@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral
@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral 26 дней назад
@@steveymoon I'm not being helpful
@steveymoon
@steveymoon 25 дней назад
@@johns1625 - No, unfortunately that's not it. There is something specific about certain AXP member videos that cannot be played in the background - despite me having RU-vid Premium. It doesn't happen with any other videos ever.
@ijaygee1
@ijaygee1 26 дней назад
Tyler: "What's the most likely explanation for this?" Well it sure isn't some eternal supernatural being that can exist in non-existence, with all the magical powers and sheer intellect, to be able to create a universe out of nothing. The probability for a naturalistic solution to existence, is a near certainty, compared to the insane improbability of a magical God existing before existence. This perfect being the religious believe in, is absolutely destroyed by their own religion. A perfect being would need and want for nothing. Yet their religion claims this thing created the universe, and populated a planet with people, for the sole purpose of believing-in and worshipping 'It', or else you'll burn in hell. These are not the actions of a perfect being, they're more akin to that of a sadistic, psychotic, egomaniac - ergo, their perfect God simply doesn't exist, as a direct consequence of their religious beliefs. And we've not even hit on the utter insanity of insisting on a blood sacrifice of your supposed only son, to somehow pay for all our sins. What the hell is this thing smoking? Is this the best a perfect God could come up with? It's a joke. It's a very, very, very, sick joke. How far along the utterly insane scale do you have to be, to believe any of this garbage is 'The Truth'?
@freakishuproar1168
@freakishuproar1168 15 дней назад
This is a massively underrated comment. If the Abrahamic god exists, then it seems suspiciously desperate to be worshipped.
@ijaygee1
@ijaygee1 15 дней назад
@@freakishuproar1168 Thank you for the support. I'm preaching to the converted here, but imagine the reaction I'd get on a Christian channel...!!! I don't think it would be pretty ;)
@freakishuproar1168
@freakishuproar1168 14 дней назад
@@ijaygee1 No problem dude! :D The best defence I can think of this proposed god's actions is that it's too catastrophically stupid to know that what it's doing is ineffective, that's the _best case_ scenario for why it'd want to be worshipped, despite how it's set up the universe and despite it's supposed efforts to make itself known. If there is a god and it's genuinely omnipotent, omnipresent and omnibenevolent, then it is uniquely burdened with a responsibility for demonstrating it's own existence and justifying it's actions. Even if people have grotesquely misrepresented it's nature and values, it'd still ultimately be responsible for our confusion regarding it for it _specifically_ made us that way. As an atheist I'm genuinely less offended that people might believe in a creator of some kind, but more bewildered why somebody would want to prostrate themselves before such a being and explain away it's catalogue of cosmically scaled squalid failures.
@ijaygee1
@ijaygee1 14 дней назад
@@freakishuproar1168 I try to keep an open mind, but I draw the line at magic. I don't claim to know there is no God - something kicked all this off, but I tend toward a naturalistic explanation. I'm however convinced the Biblical God is complete fiction - there are too many errors, cock-ups, and things we know for certain simply didn't happen. The whole idea of using a book to tell us anything of its existence, is risible - but a handy tool to control the illiterate masses of yesteryear, and all those foolish enough to believe anything on blind faith alone...
@stevecole3917
@stevecole3917 25 дней назад
Ad Populum
@Fimbulvinter19
@Fimbulvinter19 24 дня назад
Before you can claim that something is the most likely explanation, you first need to demonstrate that it even can be an explanation. In this point, to make the case that the most likely explanation is that Jesus was God, you first need to demonstrate that there even is a God for Jesus to be.
@terrencelockett4072
@terrencelockett4072 21 день назад
Why would you base your entire worldview around something you don't know or probably can never fully know? And why do so many of these theists think we're doing the same thing they're doing when analyzing our worldview? "How we got here" or whatever the theist will say isn't really a foundation for my worldview, it really wasn't as much when I was a believer either.
@petermeichan3160
@petermeichan3160 20 дней назад
CIRCULAR !!!!
@SteveLomas-k6k
@SteveLomas-k6k 21 день назад
I'd say having faith in something like atheism, without recognizing that faith as such, is just blind faith.
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 20 дней назад
Being an atheist has nothing to do with faith. It’s about logic and reason. Faith is something we don’t respect because having faith in something without concrete empirical evidence for a god or gods is the very definition of blind faith. You have it backwards
@SteveLomas-k6k
@SteveLomas-k6k 20 дней назад
@@ZeitgeistOmega My point exactly- you don't recognize it as faith. "concrete empirical evidence" for which naturalistic creative mechanism for the universe... multiverses? string theory? DNA being created by lighting hitting a puddle? A bacteria accidentally mutating into a human? We all believe in something, there's nothing wrong with that. And when we recognize our beliefs as such we can all get along. But denying faith and claiming 'undeniable fact' is where the problems usually begin, don't you think?
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 20 дней назад
@@SteveLomas-k6k You don’t seem to understand the concept of blind faith. At least with scientific research, you can actually see the how and the why of reality and have an understanding of the world around us. Taking things on faith alone is naive and ignorant. Yes, it can bring like minded people together, but if the faith is shattered because of new information that contradicts it then what do you have then? At least when you have some evidence to validate your claims, you have something to work with. Not all evidence may be able to explain something but it can point us in the right direction. Belief in something that is unsubstantiated and unverifiable is, by definition, blind faith. As for your rant on how life came to be. You are guilty of oversimplifying complex processes that took hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years, for these processes to bear fruit. So Steve, stop using these tired arguments that you seemingly have no idea what you are talking about.
@SteveLomas-k6k
@SteveLomas-k6k 20 дней назад
@@ZeitgeistOmega "You are guilty of oversimplifying complex processes that took hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years, for these processes to bear fruit." So it's not so simple? not so concrete after all? Then how about just the very first baby step in Darwinian evolution; a bacteria mutating into anything other than more bacteria? That leaves a lot of speculation, not direct empirical evidence. If you dig up the Rosetta stone and deduce an act of creative intelligence, this is not blind faith, it's recognizing the objective fingerprints of creative intelligence- even if you have no direct evidence of the creator. Forensic scientists, archeologists, insurance adjusters, use the same scientific methods to determine agency v naturalistic causes.
@Ben-no4lz
@Ben-no4lz 20 дней назад
How is Atheism a faith based position? Faith = Belief without Evidence. Atheism = A lack of belief due to a Lack of evidence. Theist - “There is a god” Atheist - “Can you demonstrate that?” Theist - “No” Atheist - “I’ll believe you when you can” Replace the word “God” with “Bigfoot” or “The Loch Ness Monster” …..and explain how that’s a Faith based position.
@terrencelockett4072
@terrencelockett4072 21 день назад
Why do theists have to use the dishonest framing when making claims about Jesus' existence? They do this with the entire bible though. They think some point about a person or place being proven to exist proves any and all supernatural claims the bible makes.
@pauls.6360
@pauls.6360 25 дней назад
People who become rich in a capitlistic society believe in God. And so do all of their victims. Cheers!
@RosieRoserules
@RosieRoserules 23 дня назад
Hearing your callrr talking about Jesus died for our sins That sounds like a terrible thing. Even now I would not want anybody to die for any of my sins Don't put that s*** on me
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 22 дня назад
Why are theists unable to admit that they dont know? Why do they so desperately need to believe an invisible sky Grandad did it all by magic?
@heinz57channel39
@heinz57channel39 25 дней назад
No sir …. Translation … You fool
@kelseykjarsgaard5774
@kelseykjarsgaard5774 25 дней назад
Plus bunch bible sounds like annuaki tablets
@kelseykjarsgaard5774
@kelseykjarsgaard5774 26 дней назад
😅
@bobbybecker3572
@bobbybecker3572 25 дней назад
"I mean, if you can't appreciate the SCOPE of Jesus' death, think of the MAGNITUDE of it"
@albaniahenry-franklin2829
@albaniahenry-franklin2829 25 дней назад
A man, that may or not have existed in reality, possibly was crucified and died. According to the mythology this person wasn't even the only man crucified in Golgotha and he was NOT he only one who resurrected a short time later. Scope and magnitude aren't even to be considered in this fantasy story🤣🤣
@gaagsl
@gaagsl 25 дней назад
The old testament doesn't talk about Jesus. It never says that he would die for our sins in a cross and then he would be resurrected from the dead, during the time of the Roman empire.
@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761
@hjalmarolethorchristensen9761 25 дней назад
Hostióz Helpu Ufar fatai jaga iz wóðnas weraz
@lordnecrorder8476
@lordnecrorder8476 23 дня назад
Yeeeeeeee, 666th like!
@tryme3969
@tryme3969 25 дней назад
Is faith a negative word?
@Diviance
@Diviance 25 дней назад
The type of faith used by the religious? Belief without a good reason or justification? Absolutely.
@tonyclements1147
@tonyclements1147 25 дней назад
Do you have an IQ that makes Forrest Gump look like Einstein?
@Seticzech
@Seticzech 25 дней назад
No. Blind faith is negative.
@seraeirian2
@seraeirian2 25 дней назад
What does that even mean? It's just a word with a definition that means 'believing in something without evidence.'
@tryme3969
@tryme3969 25 дней назад
@@Diviance Where can I find that definition being used?
@ThroneofDavid8
@ThroneofDavid8 25 дней назад
If you really know what a god is, then why can't you believe that there is one?
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 25 дней назад
Because it annoys you and that's fun to do
@tonyclements1147
@tonyclements1147 25 дней назад
Provide some evidence first, then I’ll worry about his existence.
@Seticzech
@Seticzech 25 дней назад
Sure, god is just man made idea. This is nothing secret. 🙂
@quentind1924
@quentind1924 25 дней назад
Because it probably doesn’t exists
@smochygrice465
@smochygrice465 25 дней назад
Why, because that is God's will brother. For everything that happens, happens accordingly to God's will. God bless The Atheist Experience 🙏
@wwlib5390
@wwlib5390 25 дней назад
It's not God's desire that ANYONE perish. He gives you the Way, the Truth and the Words of everlasting life. (John 3 16). He provides evidence to all who come to Him. He does not provide evidence (except what He placed in all Creation of Himself for all to see) for anyone who demands evidence before coming to Him.
@thejabberwocky2819
@thejabberwocky2819 24 дня назад
If that were true, god would ensure that everyone has no reason to doubt his existence. I doubt his existence, therefore God either doesn't exist or doesn't want everyone to not perish
@joecoolioness6399
@joecoolioness6399 19 дней назад
"He does not provide evidence". I agree. So why do you believe any of the claims? Why would you believe anything to be true without good reason?
@Steve-sg3uz
@Steve-sg3uz 26 дней назад
Didn't the Nazis, Stalin, and Mao say they had a good reason?
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 26 дней назад
The guy in your avatar praises people like Putin and Kim Jong Un so he'd probably be praising all those people you mentioned too.
@quentind1924
@quentind1924 26 дней назад
We’re not them. It’s a red harring and it’s a sophism
@amtlpaul
@amtlpaul 26 дней назад
People say all kinds of things. For example, you spew bs on a daily basis.
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 26 дней назад
Anybody can claim they had a good reason. Doesn’t mean it’s right.
@Columbiastargazer
@Columbiastargazer 26 дней назад
the first 2 were christians
@Steve-sg3uz
@Steve-sg3uz 26 дней назад
They have faith that their partners love them. They have faith that God is not real.
@cullenjohnson0
@cullenjohnson0 26 дней назад
No in both cases.
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 26 дней назад
The guy in your avatar has had three trophy wives and none of them ever liked him.
@jayrose8638
@jayrose8638 26 дней назад
OP has failed to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods, other divine or supernatural beings or that faith is a reliable way to truth. Seems to be a problem they are having difficulty getting past. Must be frustrating.
@Steve-sg3uz
@Steve-sg3uz 26 дней назад
@@canderson5098 His current wife is smokin hot!
@XEndlessSteelX
@XEndlessSteelX 26 дней назад
1: Informed, reasonable trust 2: That's not what atheism is.
@Thunderbolt-9
@Thunderbolt-9 26 дней назад
Without faith, then there’s no hope. Faith can help people have the strength to endure difficult times and the courage to do things that scare them
@jayrose8638
@jayrose8638 26 дней назад
So does alcohol but it’s not a good way to find the truth.
@ZeitgeistOmega
@ZeitgeistOmega 26 дней назад
@@jayrose8638caffeine too, if you want to risk way too much in your system at once.
@albaniahenry-franklin2829
@albaniahenry-franklin2829 26 дней назад
If you mean the religious meaning of "faith", I definitely do not believe that is true and you can DEFINITELY cope with the rigors of the real world without resorting to magical thinking and superstition religious nonsense.
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 26 дней назад
You said you weren't going to preach anymore
@ianchisholm5756
@ianchisholm5756 26 дней назад
Dumbo's feather.
@Mark1615-zi4er
@Mark1615-zi4er 26 дней назад
Repent. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. Luke 13:3 KJV I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Romans 10:9 KJV That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
@t800fantasm2
@t800fantasm2 26 дней назад
Wow, you're here already, once again proving the bible is for morons and low IQ trolls...
@ericmishima
@ericmishima 26 дней назад
The words of irrelevant men.
@albaniahenry-franklin2829
@albaniahenry-franklin2829 26 дней назад
Without reading it yourself in the ORIGINAL Hebrew, Aramaic and Koine Greek how could you possibly know for sure the KJV Buy-Bull is an accurate translation of the original texts?? Obviously the only TRUE way is if your "God" told you himself...because you're important and special to "him"...in "his" own voice that it was accurate. Did your "God" speak to you in "his" own voice directly? How often does your "God" take time out of maintaining what you think is "his creation" to personally speak to you? Does anyone else hear your "God" voice when "he" speaks or only you no matter who else is near you? Do you need to speak to someone to help you get over the unbearable lightness of being? Why won't you answered these simple questions? Did your "God" tell you NOT to answer any questions so your close and obscenely intimate relationship remains discreet??
@quentind1924
@quentind1924 26 дней назад
What tells us that you’ve not been converted into a cult ?
@berosi
@berosi 26 дней назад
Wake up and start educating yourself. James 15:15:15:1-7+18
@Vforvengence
@Vforvengence 25 дней назад
I feel sorry for these people who call in Jesus said don’t throw your pearls to swine
@albaniahenry-franklin2829
@albaniahenry-franklin2829 25 дней назад
Sure, the mythological super-powered demi-god character of "Jesus the Christ of Nazareth" said that in a book of historical fantasy fiction called the Buy-Bull🤣 I heard he had heat vision and could breathe underwater but his cellular regeneration powers were weak🤣🤣
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 25 дней назад
You would call but you can't figure out how to dial the toaster.
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 25 дней назад
I feel sorry for people like you who will defend a mafioso g0d that slaughtered children to punish their parents because you are a total *COWARD* who is afraid of what that mafioso g0d is gonna do to you if you call him out.
@tonyclements1147
@tonyclements1147 25 дней назад
Obvious troll is obvious AF.
@thejabberwocky2819
@thejabberwocky2819 24 дня назад
1 Peter 3:15-16 Oops, you're a bad Christian
@Vforvengence
@Vforvengence 25 дней назад
The Bible is the evidence of you don’t believe than that’s you
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 25 дней назад
Beg pardon?
@quentind1924
@quentind1924 25 дней назад
What tells you that the bible wasn’t written by normal humans ?
@Vforvengence
@Vforvengence 25 дней назад
@@quentind1924the writers were normal humans but the point is God exist because he said he does this evidence and proof is sending y’all to hell
@Vforvengence
@Vforvengence 25 дней назад
@@canderson5098all knees will bow to Jesus Christ all the unbelieving will have their place in the lake of fire pardon me
@canderson5098
@canderson5098 25 дней назад
​@@Vforvengencestop it you're scaring me
@donspinella3706
@donspinella3706 25 дней назад
There's that little ghost hater. Please debate Zack Bagans
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 25 дней назад
Why would anybody want to debate an actor about a load of made up bullshit?
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