@@blotto7162 There was a case of a brazilian guy who had such a thick skull that he survived getting headshot at very close range. Granted, those were lower powered pistol/revolver rounds, but still, he tanked several shots to the head with that even if he ended up in the hospital.
I wonder if 152 mm is still too small caliber for his. Or he is trying to play boss behind frontlines shooting anybody trying to surrender or desert. Usually them big bullies try to feed others instead of themselves to the guns.
@@pw1277understand the difference in the meaning of the word conscripts between the US and Russia. It’s two completely different terms and the Russian “conscripts” are military trained.
Hey Ox, I managed to get a captured Kolpak-20 into the US. I made some mistakes in the video initially, but upon examination I CAN confirm that it's a ww2 SSH40 shell, not an SSH68. It's also backed by UHMWPE. super funky helmet. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1XudVjnPdHs.html
Quite an excellent helmet, not fashionable like Opscor, but for that it has an honest level of armor protection BR2. The truth has its drawbacks, such as rust, lack of fasteners, cheap hanging system, cheap pillows. But this is the only helmet so far honestly holding a 7n28 hit (9x21 aka SP-11, in fact, FMJ).
@Oxide_does_his_best you can see Kolpak tests in this video. You can also find tests of various armor and helmets used in this conflict on that channel (including Turkish, Iranian and US stuff) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YDCe4aprfRE.html
@@Fairfax_kitпри производстве шлема колпак-20 используется все модели советских стальных шлемов, но в большинстве случаев это 40,68. Приходится использовать эти шлема в качестве основы, ибо в прошлом их было выпущено столько, что пускать их сейчас на переплавку глупо.
Thank you for pointing out we can’t quite believe anyone right now, information on either side is obviously going to be very obscured with bias and propaganda from both sides
Russians strongest weapon is truth. Western media all need to hide all the nazi satanic crap that is so overwhelming, like they hid ISIL and others as freedom fighters in Syria. White helmets doing executions and such. All Russians need to do is largely report facts of ukr nazi regime - western media will deny everything as a fairy tale. But why should anybody trust anything - all they do is project or turn reality upside down. Defend yourself - they say you are attacking them.When you refuse american satanic dictates, they freak out and scream you are attacking just as they start throwing punches. Seymour Hersh ? Nord Stream ? US is consistently perverting reality - yes the war didnt start in 2014 either, it started when Putin started evicting the oligarchs Westerners empowered in 1990s. They came to loot and when it stopped, that means RF needed to prepare for confrontation because the west wouldnt let anybody sovereign live.
In my opinion these plates probably were NOT pulled off downed soldiers. Both sides have coordinated efforts to spread morale lifting false messages, e.g. "150,000 dead russians". I don't really care for either side in the conflict, but I think it's funny that people believe russians are being equipped with Chinese air rifles (NOT paraphrasing Brandon herrera had a video about this same incident mocking it as if it were fact)
Well, in general, Chinese carbines really came to the Russian Federation, but they are sold only as civilian carbines, the most budget segment of the AR platform.
@@marcusfanning7513 And I beg your pardon, I didn’t fully understand what it was about, because we were presented with the news that “China is arming the Russian Federation with AR rifles” (I don’t remember from whom the news is, but it’s definitely from your news newspaper publications) and just when they were again brought to the civilian market Chinese AR platform carbines. And I see you presented information even worse?
@@konstantin070797 yeah there was a video by a popular youtuber called "Brandon Herrera", basically he's an American firearms youtuber and he has this thing where he reviews clips about weapons. A lot of people had been fooled by a Ukrainian video of a Chinese air rifle being picked up off the ground saying "oh look this was taken off a dead Russian soldier". There is no dead soldier in the video and the air rifle looked like it had been in an attic for months, NOT in the hands of a soldier. There's lots of fake news in this war everywhere. This is how news is now I suppose, but its crazy that so many people believe this stuff when it makes zero sense and is so easy to see as fake. But yeah Chinese firearms are actually not bad at all, they used to make very bad ak's for $50 in the 90s and sell them to Africa (Vladimir Onkoy from Kalashnikov concern has some videos about his experience with these rifles).
@@marcusfanning7513 It is clear, but I apparently did not watch this part of Brandon. Well, about Chinese weapons, in principle, yes, cheap, and qualitatively, although there are questions about the barrel, but overall not bad. As for the information, for us it’s as if there is no such problem, we clearly know no matter how hard the residents of 404 try, everything is even, and they understand it, it becomes more difficult to lie, there are fewer people, funding is also not eternal, human resources are running out. For you, maybe we don’t have any choice, we are not satisfied with the world with the Nazis and heretics who bang peaceful people is the same as throwing their marks ... In the meantime, they can carry out general mobilization and send another batch of meat to the front, only now let them pray when they get to the Bakhmut direction, now they will only be buried there, after recent events they themselves issued a black mark to all their soldiers. In other matters, we do not mind, a war without sentimentality has long been suggested, there is no longer any point in pitying the killers.
What we see online isn't the full picture, it's all filtered through organisations so you only ever see what the organisation wants you to see and that goes for every side.
@@sweetnerevar7030 ты действительно уверен что ты потребляешь ВЕСЬ контент? Сколько УКРАИНО/РУСКОЯЗЫЧНЫХ каналов в телеграме ты читаешь? Каков ретард, лол
Would be interested to see if instead of just testing real plates, you'd improvise some armor with relatively cheap alibaba ceramics. AlO2, SiC and others can be acquired for a low cost although shipping can be expensive as well as some products have large quantity minimum orders.
Dude! You really know your stuff. Very few people mention the kevlar backed steel helmets. Also I didnt know why the Russian kevlar helmets were so soft
I think Mike B did a ballistics test of an M56 a couple years ago. I don't remember it really being anything all that interesting, it performed essentially on par with other soviet steel helmets, but I do recall it eating a .357 magnum without a ton of deformation, albeit sans the helmet liner.
Bruh they just put in a fake tweet, didn't elaborate and only provided a pic of the front view. Even on the front, a 90 degrees cut can be seen. It also just so happens, that the granit plates are composed of squares. It's almost like they did a cutout, took out the square of ceramic and posted it on twitter.
one of the few guntubers who actually calls out all the fake info regarding this war. saw even some vets and big guntubers talk about this as if it's fact.
Ryan McBeth uploaded an article to his Substack this morning that contained a video of two Ukrainian soldiers clearing through a trench. They needed to shoot some of the Russians with roughly five 5.45x39 rounds to kill them, and some even survived slightly offset grenade blasts beforehand. There are Russian soldiers on the front with rifle-rated armor. I'm sure there are cases where Colonel Corruptovich sells his unit's armor on the black market, but that's not the case across the board in the Russian Army.
the answer? peremoga from the ukrainians that quickly turned into zrada after they tested the same granit plate and tried to propagandize it, but the plate ate multiple PKM rounds
The US DoD issued 3M ear plugs that provided no hearing protection for a decade or so. US Marines hardly had any PPE during the first several years of GWOT. If these kinds of issues can happen to the worlds premier military force, it can also happen to second and third rate forces. There is also the fact that the media is playing this up as a big deal yet Ukraine didn't have rifles or munitions until the rest of the western world stepped in for them.
Okay but Ukraine had rifles, they even had enough to hand them out to civilians in Kiev when it seemed the VDV was going to push into the city. It's just that you can't go from a 250k strong army to declaring mobilization and outfitting 700k soldiers. Their major issue with munitions was that their artillery is mostly Soviet era, and most of Ukraine's allies only have NATO standard munitions. So they had to scrounge up shells from Bulgaria, Pakistan, etc. and eventually start donating 155mm artillery pieces.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD They did a photo op in one city that people lapped up, and a lot of people that did get a rifle didn't have any ammunition to go with it. How did that work out in the east after Ukraine conscripted all able bodied men? Additionally, Russia was amassing forces on the Ukrainian border for 7 years and nobody in Ukraine thought to maybe acquire more ordinance just in case things popped off.
@@apersonontheinternet8006 "after Ukraine conscripted all able bodied men?" - Not true in the slightest. In a population of 44 million (minus a few million refugees) only about 500k men were mobilized. "nobody in Ukraine thought to maybe acquire more ordinance just in case things popped off." - Because Ukraine was split into arming itself and "not poking the bear". Zelensky himself was elected as the peace candidate while Poroshenko was seen as the pro-war hardliner.
he showed on a livestream it had pretty much generic results, iirc the consensus is that any chinese plate you buy will have similar performance whether it be from official military issue or whatever cheap ebay sapi - just like his other (unlisted but you can find it in the "helmets" playlist) video on chinese helmets
Whatever they can get their hands on. Wagner's more or less cut off from Russian supply and conscripts, Russia seems to be prioritizing materials for their new northern offensive, but based on the attacks that are believed to be a part of that, things aren't looking too good for them, especially with the rainy season coming, threatening a slow in movement due to mud, meanwhile more western equipment and material is flowing into Ukraine from the west. Most likely both sides will take time in the spring to consolidate their supply
Pretty interesting saw that kevlar helemt video and thought it was saying some sort of truth, never thought it was just weak to blunt force and waqs act ually real
"I thought I was going to be a high speed low drag foreign legionaire operator,where's my quad NVGs and block 3 M4?what do you mean I'm being issued an AKS-74? What do you mean we are digging a fighting position?!"
They very heavily in equipment. Ive seen a whole lot of drone drop or surveillance videos and you can see with your own eyes how their equipment gets shittier as the war goes on
Honestly it's possible that some bad plates were mixed in with the real ones to "supplement" shortage, also possible that a soldier got scammed trying to get body armor... And then it's also possible that the fake armor is NATO psyop to reduce Russian confidence in their armor. In any case, Russian morale has been quite low since the beginning, and that hasn't been helped by the clever use of strategic media information sharing through Russian forces. What we can say is that there are no certainties, especially in war.
About three months ago I watched a video about bulletproof vests taken from the killed Ukrainians, where there were models instead of normal plates, I don’t remember more such cases. Was morale low? When did we start cleaning Ukraine from NATO Nazis? Pretty weird statement.
It's possible. The issue is, there are no real shortages on the Russian front. Not even a smidge of proof of any shortage. Truthfully, Russia hasn't even really used its own military for this incursion. They've mostly relied on Wagner forces which are private military Corp and source their own equipment. But if you watch a western Media or a European media they will tell you something completely false. Which is extremely concerning for someone who is just looking for truth and wants an unbiased opinion. I honestly think you're right about it being a psyop. That it's only designed to decrease moral amongst Russian troops. Wouldn't be too difficult to find a deceased soldier and place a dummy plate on him
@@JohnSmith-bh8um there's no conventional shortages, we'll say. The lack of maintenance of their ridiculously large fleet of vehicles is quite obvious however, as it costs a lot to maintain that much equipment. Considering the amount or corruption in the Russian government, which certainly exceeds American military and political corruption in most conventional regards, the amount of funding pulled away from Russian forces is having a severe effect on their actual effectiveness. Shortages of equipment are due more to logistical errors and handicapping via convoy attacks over lack of legitimate supply of resources in Russia. Russia nor any other military world power, despite having overwhelming forces, can't take a country of militants for long, if at all. The supply chain to Afghanistan and the middle east has been absolutely minimal, and despite that Guerilla tactics have and always will always prevail on home turf... Compare that to Ukrainian access to Javelin systems and other modern guided AT/AA munitions as well as vast NATO information chains including satellite support, and it starts to become very clear Putin made a grave error. It doesn't matter how many tanks, ammo, and guns you have at home when you're on someone else's turf with what you have on your back. Your effective supply then, is nothing but what someone can bring to you, assuming they can make it to where you are.
@@danielconquer909 I mean... considering the amount of losses they've sustained in both terms of ground, assets, and lives, I find it hard to believe Russian morale is at an all time high.
The footage at the beginning of the video amuses me, a senseless operation on an island captured by the enemy. The Ukrainian special forces lost several of their people and could not pick up their bodies (then some people on the Internet called the corpses of people with 5.56 magazines and American equipment Russian special forces), while several helicopters were shot down before the start of the operation. For what?
Have you thought about doing a loadout video on some of the wackier forces of the war? Possibly a comparison between Wagner Assault groups and western volunteer squads/Ukrainian territorial defense and LPR DPR Militia?
Not really when you understand that the DPR and LPR militias aren’t getting the Russian armies standard equipment so it’s easy to point a finger at a less equipped DPR soldier and claim he’s Russian and under geared.
@@-Zardoz- Except donetsk and luhansk are claimed by Russia? By the Kremlins logic the DPR and LPR are Russians defending Russia no? My understanding is that DPR+LPR are around 40k troops strong, you would think it'd be crumbs to properly equip them from Russian stockpiles, or at least I would. The fact that they aren't getting equipment is incredibly strange. I don't know if its a reflection of a lack of equipment or just an inability to get it to the field.
@@Frdyan do you not understand that this is a civil war that’s been going on for a decade now? East Ukrainian rebels make up a lot more than 40k. That isn’t the kremlins logic it’s the logic of the media you consume wholeheartedly.
Ну в конце ВНЕЗАПНО правильный вывод. Думаю, копнув еще дальше, в пропаганду и т.д. многие бы поняли и про причины этой войны, и про последствия. Надеюсь, когда ниубдь до людей дойдет, кто дергает за нитки и эта спираль смерти остановится.
rusofobi ľubjat alternativnuju realitu, i verjat što Rossija proigrivajet, uže 200 tisjač rusich dľa nich uže po smerti. Pričina vojny davlenie SŠA na Rossiju čerez perevoroty byvšovo Varšavskovo dogovora - odstuplenie od dogovora dľa PRO. Mozgy zapadnych dumajt što oni vyšše Rossijan ponimajte, oni eti orki te untermenši. Oni choťat nas ograbiť i tak dale. Reaľno o vas ničevo neznajut. Ja Rossiju neznaju tože, i Kitaj. Ja nebyl tam nikagda. U nas nikakovo interesa protiv Rossiji net. Ja dolgo chotel videť kak tam u vas. Zdes my nikakich gejov netrebujem. Nikakie taknazyvajemye cifrovie dengi tože. Nikakie lana nesvobody i zla. My protiv tovo. No, kogda ekonomičeskaja situacia choroša, boľšinstvo ľudej oni tupie i neponimajut, što elity zapada oni existencionaľnaja ugroza dľa nas - Rossija uničtažajet našovo vraga. Sevodňa v malom gorode blizko ja videl okolo 15-letnovo parňa cigana i on krutoj v odežde devočky. I eti učiteli, kotorye vsie ticho ? Vsio praviľno ? Ja nevidel što im v mozgy rvut molodym. Ne vsjo čerez SMI. Eto mošč lži i mnipulirovania temi, kto slaboj i nevosmožno mu polnocenno braniť sa i skazať, što eto vsjo lož. I jesli tebe plocho, na tebja gestapo. Takie policeskie što oni ? Svoloč tože. A po pobede Rossii, kak SŠA uchodit, oni budut kričať, što oni neznali, dolžno ich kazniť. Oni iskali komfort, bezchrebetnyje i po zaslugam eto budet. Privet iz vostoka Slovakii.
Afaik they aren't used by any Russian units today, but I've seen ZSH-1-2s and maskas in use with the DPR and LNR so it's possible,though the visors would probably be removed.
1:17 looking into these two I found out few details. That pont on right of fake plate seems like to be a tecnological rudiment of pressed production as when real one is made by high pressure casting. you can clearly see difference on quality of edges. Fake one, how weird it wont sound, is better quality. Both technologies is used in russia but first beeing cheap and easy to mass scale prefered by militarry while second is more of a civilian customer thing where visual apealing is a thing. It still doesnt give conclussive answer on whats going on but here is few theories. 1- russia is scaling up productions, but due to the fact that they litreally have nothing whatever were produced already is send with shortcuts on quality control. 2- Ukrain somehow is managing to sabotage russian supplies with fake plates 3- Its fake. So far in this war there was many weird attempts to kid the enemy. And in contrast on some tries, making fake fake armor is not so crazy of an idea.
Lol wut. No the fuck it isn't. Thickness, alloy, and especially heat treat affecting hardness all make a huge difference in how well it can stop a bullet.
im surprised to see you defend russian equipment unlike others, because most people think "russian equipment = shit, because russia" in reality its pretty decent stuff, and can actually hold up to western stuff, and especially their tanks, cause their tanks are obviously supposed to fill a specific purpose but the crew just dont use them correctly, but people see the wrecks and think "russia tank = shit, because russia and destroyed"
and sometimes yes there can be shit examples like helmets more than 50 years old being used but people still think the same of helmets that er newer and pretty much on par with western counterparts
