Is The US Army’s New Helmet a Complete Disaster? The IHPS 

I love this 😂 the memories

Jesus, Top, just let me pretend to be John Wayne.

​@@teamflyboys buckle your fuckin chinstrap John Wayne

@@teamflyboys no one needs a John Wayne 🤌🏽

Truth. Second only to the most lethal mistake; hands in pockets.

That is why I wear a portable freezer for ballistic protection.

90% of being cool is looking cool.

I'm astounded they didn't go for the nazi style helmet given the current admin

​@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs say what you will about the nazis but their helmet designs is what paved the way for modern helmets.

That's why everything from Russia is way cooler

Except if you sat down on them. Same as with any other hard objects.

You are supposed to fall on them from a ladder while cleaning naked!

@@Seelenschmiede Ah, yes, sure. #Accidentally 👍👍 😁

Lol.

🤣

As a former marine from new Mombasa, I can tell you these helmets absolutely would not save you from a 9.5x40 from a br55 from a friendly fire incident

Prior service ODST here, 23/65, a buddy of mine actually did survive a needle rifle on his helmet (though no this one) before. The round bounded off his helmet, which was beyond lucky. Getting called "pin head" for the rest of his time was not. rip

My buddy died to a brute shot wearing those helmets 😭

@@Allseeingguy-sp2hw :|

Neither would a spartan helmet, did you hear what happened to NOBLE team’s technical expert

Lol bUt HaVe yOu tEsTeD iT????!

I mean… he’s not wrong

hahahahahahahaha you got me bruh

My brain is hurting from hearing this

The logic, penetranted

yes

Good to know my head will be caved in while my body is perfectly safe from bullets. lol Should of stuck with the Bastion Diamond Age.

so exactly the same as the old helmets from ww1...

@@ugandanknuckles3900 not all of your body just the middle-ish of your plate

it saves when it'd be a lethal hit without it with at least some sort of angle to the shot rather than a dead-on shot.

My drill seargents in 73 told about one of their friends, also a DI, who got hit in the side of the head by an AK round. Apparently it hit, amf imbedded 1/2 inch into the side of his head. “He was STRAK before. He’s very mallow now compared to before.”

@ 30 years ago, I worked with a guy who was a squad leader in Germany, on the Czech border. He said there were constant border issues, and nothing made the news. One incident was when they got this HUGE black private. He was so big, his steel pot wouldn't fit even at the loosest setting; it looked like a helmet from Beetle Bailey on his head. So, one day on patrol, this private suddenly pitches face first into the dirt. He stands back up, wobbly, touches the back of his head, and comes away bloody. He then pitches face down again, and stands up wobbly. He feels the back of his head again, and again comes away bloody. After this, everyone got low, left the area, and hunted cover. They called for a medevac, and the wounded private was taken back to base while the rest went on a sniper hunt. The shooter wasn't caught, but the 2 spent 7,62x54mmR cases were there, roughly 1,200m away from the spot where the private was standing. He recovered and from then on was known as "Hard Hat", because the 2 rounds DIDN'T PENETRATE; his skull bone was literally 1" thick! Same Sgt, different patrol, he and his RTO had to get up high to get signal in a mountainous area. So, they're up on this peak, next to a steep dropoff (his description), when up out of the dropoff comes a Czech Mi-24 Hind. He said that Hind just hung there, the 4-barrel 12,7mm machinegun tracking every little movement they made. He told his RTO to freeze, then held up his right hand (the radio handpiece was in his left), and gave a slow wave to the crew in the Hind. He said the pilot did a wing waggle, gave a little wave, then flew off. They were scared shitless that those Czechs were going to light them up .

Holy shit, that sniper probably just ran away, after shooting a guy twice in the head and him just getting up and rubbing his head 😂

My grandfather was hit with a round from the space shuttle door gunner and he has the thruster from the space shuttle

​@@Dragon_Werks you're telling me the thin strip between west Germany and Czech Republic had armed conflict along the border and I never knew? Where can I read more

Helmets were always used.

Not when it came to firearms, don't think a bicorne qualifies as a helmet.

@@Tojo89 That's a hat. A shako is a helmet of that time for example. Romans already used the cassis.

There are other options, just nothing practical and price effective. Most samurai’s had little to no armor. The beautiful armor prices you see were only owned by wealthy samurai.

It is Ashigaru you are talking about. Samurai were nobles, they were expected to have a certain standard in gear and atire. Often going as far as lending money and going bankrupt to keep the requirements.

ACH and ECH both are excellent helmets

Thank the good LORD for the saved life. 👍

exceptions to the rule aren't the rule

​@Delsin Hays unless we're talking about sperm.

@@GarandThumb How can two things be good at the same time though? Is that legal/allowed? I thought it was required that only one thing was good so we could be upset about the other thing.

Makes ya keep your head down lol

Better to not find out

Helmets have saved lives. If it is at a weird angle it may well deflect the round or take enough sting from it to save someone's life. Your head won't.

Considering 80% of the casualties in Ukraine are from shrapnel, it's probably fine that it only protects from shrapnel. You make the helmet too heavy and soldiers won't wear it. Doesn't matter how many rounds it can stop if it's on your backpack and not on your head

I cannot tell you the amount of times I bumped my head into stuff, either on accident or due to being in a shaky transport. That helmet saved me from a lot of concussions.

That hurt didnt it

@@duonglethai8701 Naw, he built a tolerence by shooting himself with increasingly powerful airguns.

Why were you going around shooting baby cows? That's just mean.

My step dad and his cousin were playing war when they were young back in the 70s he shot a piece of tin my cousin was behind and hit him in the neck with a 22 he thought he was gonna die then my cousin shot back at my step dad who was behind a tree and he caught bird shot in his leg from a 410. It was a skinny tree he still has the shot in his leg.

@@Sk4llikinsane reference

When you were in, it really depended on which blacksmith made your helmet, didn't it?

@@Centermass762 😆

*Bollywood

Be honest, you wore a turtle shell on your head and were issued 30 caliber rocks.

@@Centermass762bruh

There is video of one in Iraq. Completely destroyed the helmet knocked the soldier out and saved his life

Guy from my church took a direct 7.62 to the head in afghanistan during a convoy ambush and survived relatively unharmed. ECH the GOAT

The new body armor is also leagues better than the IOTV

It's definitely a damn broken clock.

A broken clock is accurate twice as often as a broken military clock.

A true miracle. I am lucky to have never put this helmet to the test in my deployments. God bless you and I thank him that you're still with us.

God bless you.

@@calid.this is bait

@@replexity idk what u r talking about

that is what you get when you get involved in the affairs of other countries, stay at home you will be better

If a PT belt would of at least been on the table. That helmet would of stopped an API. Of any caliber!

Is there anything gayer than a PT belt, oh yes, soccer.

A pt belt is like a strength buff I would bet money if it had a PT belt on it, it would stop a 50 from 3 yards with 0 deformation

@@jpop3583 oh no for sure bud. Lol.

Hard

des the helmet help against friendly fire tho?

@@Brooyah they should add IR strobes so the A-10 can friendly fire more precisely

@@0katze The a10 is so old it doesn't even have IR and people still say the its better than the F-35

​@@BasedGrandmasKitchen whoosh......

I used to wonder why tank personnel wear helmets inside of their thick armor. Seemed a bit superfluous.

it seems to be a well built helmet!

Holy smoke, nice, though I'm sure that DEFINITELY hurt.

Probably had a headache for a month.

"Ring my belllllll, ring my belllll" 😂

you had a buddy ?what is he passed on now ,,just speak in past tenths is all ?

These helmets won't catch a 7.62. Ol boy might have been telling a tale.

​​@@bowdezaufa2609o he's probably not lying, there's been plenty of cases where a 7.62x39 round from far away lodged itself into the ACH or went around the rim and got stuck in the kevlar fibers, if the round it from far away and has lost energy it's not a surprising case but yea normally it's 3A rated.

@@thegalapagos57 Theres just far more cases of that round making a clean pass through the ACH with a soldier wearing it, but from an angle or hundreds of yards ...you're right.

@@bowdezaufa2609 In Afghanistan and Iraq, if someone got shot by a terrorist from far distances everyone just assumed it was from an AK, but the Taliban in Afghanistan had a large supply of SVDs that the Soviets left behind in the 1980s Soviet-Afghan War along with a lot of 7.62x54mmR and those could and would punch through an ACH from the 2000s era. SVDs weren't as common in Iraq but they were readily available on the black market along with the ammunition for it. That made a significant amount of what I did in Iraq, a buddy and I would confiscate weapons from potential arms dealers.

@@MisterNi I served in Afghanistan in 2010 and 99% of the weapons we confiscated were AKs and pistols. A 54r would go through any ballistic helmet made even today.

Wdym?

Smaller helmet less blackface deforestation

@@futuretrunks3158 What?

Smaller helmet= more a altoid velocity

Smaller helmet = less blackforest discrimination

That nvg mount is fragile asf

UltimateDan1 Was the helmet lighter at all?

oxide was the first to expose the army. the ech is far superior to ihps. what's the point of catching the bullet if the deformation kills you. just wear extra large helmet? with softer padding. please..

@@wirelessone2986 build a stronger neck and helmet weight is a non issue

@@cagneybillingsley2165 that’s definitely not the right answer. Even having a helmet that’s half the weight is bad for your neck when worn for long duration, no matter how strong your neck is. Any weight savings is always better.

@@Pallium_Industries They don't want to compromise on the ballistic protection

@@vaitomanocu5562 Who cares about ballistic protection when you can look cool with a high cut though lol

It won't save your butt but maybe your pie hole

​@@spencer7197 IHPS looks cooler to me.

@@MrDK0010 I respect that. I will say compared to ACH I was rocking before the IHPS (keep wanting to say IHOPs), the IHPS was a huge quality of life improvement. Not just the weight savings but the multicam shroud is just attached with velcro (no need to pop the bolts out for the chinstrap to attach a shroud), no helmet band to tie down with 550 cord (just had to put name and blood type on a little hook panel for the IHPS), I felt that the chinstrap was a little better (didn't need to adjust and tighten constantly when running NODS). Might not seem like much but all these things definitely made this a huge improvement.

​@Donald McRonald bro was the main character

@Donald McRonald lol it’s not a difficult task to “single handedly” kill any number of folks when you’re a sniper and have enough targets to shoot at. Not to mention the guy was a psycho before the war. He definitely had the means and the attitude to be a rather successful killer.

@Donald McRonald Are you suggesting a farmer, who does manual labor every day, was not in shape?

@@YouReallyDontKnow just like the confederate meatriders to celebrate a murderous sniper 💀

@@Outlander.-. he prolly meant fit in a more traditional way like going to the gym and what not but still a bad example on his part cool story though

You read my mind.

Indeed it is

So garand daddy?

He uploads almost every Sunday.

yep😊

Most rounds have an optimum range at which they penetrate better than when fired at point blank range

Shit man. Mad respect to you guys. My TL did some time in Afghanistan too and got hit in the plate carrier at some point.

At least give the man's name so we can honor him.

@@mikehutchinson2191 wait how does that work :o?

@@slushypuppies I don't know anything about the subject but I would assume that at the initial speeds, some rounds have so much energy they shatter on impact rather than hold shape and penetrate

CIF won't care if you lost it in a "boating accident." Still paying for that bad boy.

Loose? Thank you for your service.

So that FLIPL will state that you lost it. Got it. A turd is a turd. Also, that plastic bracket lever rattles with NOD's and has a lot of play. Don't exaggerate how superior it is. All it is is more comfortable.

​@@mattmarzula Lighter and more comfortable is VERY important.

happy that it performed at the same level as the ECH

​@Mega Comet they have been getting worse and worse over the last year. Make sure to report them when you see them, youtube can't keep up without people reporting bot accounts

The- ACK

I wouldn’t want to wear a soft helmet

@Mega Comet They are trying to get clicks from curiosity. Don’t use their links.

Sounds good, but it doesn't provide meaningful information in ballistic helmet testing. Similar to this video.

@800lb Gorilla helmets weren't originally meant for ballistics though. A majority of deaths they prevent come from shrapnel and vehicle related head injuries. Yes, they are now made to help stop ballistics, but the point of a helmet is shrapnel and blunt force trauma, not ballistics.

@@jdub8925 The PASGT helmet designed in *1977* was explicitly built to provide ballistic protection, specifically NIJ Level IIIA using Kevlar Aramid, in accordance with MIL-STD-662. So if by "yes they are now made to help stop ballistics" you mean for the last 46 years, you're right. Thanks.

@800lb Gorilla how long have militaries been fielding helmets? Romans? Vikings? The Crusaders? Safe to say a few thousand years right? So if something with a history that long was remade in 1977, it's pretty safe to say they have recently been made to help prevent injuries to ballistics. Point being, helmets still save more soldiers from blunt force trauma than ballistics. And the key word in YOUR statement being "ballistic protection" because they are far from being bulletproof.

​@@jdub8925No armor is "bulletproof". Plates aren't 100% either. In the scale of things, being not dead is the goal. Also I assure you I'd rather be wearing an old timey helmet if I was struck by an arrow or sling bullet. I might actually live that depending. So protection from projectiles has been a thought going into the design to one degree or another since y'know Like the bronze age.

He has a newer video about .380 vs 9mm, idk if you've seen it but 9mm is the winner all the way

If you can. Go into a little detail in your opinion on the difference choices and the ideologies please.

Yeah, dont the marines have high cut helmets now?

Oh, yes please. Army vs Marine comparison on their choice of helmet

Easy answer USMC = unfunded Army = slightly more funded And yes I am AD Crayon Eater

@@jaidroldan145 I am only seeing M27IARs High cut helmets and in general more well Equipped Soldiers than the US Army

I wonder if those performing the other tests were using legitimate IHIPS? I wonder if it's possible they may have used a knockoff? GT mentioned it several times as well that he was surprised based on other testing he had watched via video. I think it's a good question and worth looking into. Maybe these other channels who experienced substantially different results could revisit their tests, ensuring a genuine IHIPS as their test subject?

What I suspect is that Oxide tested the helmet without any padding on a roll of paper (Unlike the dummy skull in this video, which can provide some support to reduce the back face deformation)

@@dustinfrey3067 ​ the first channel I'm thinking of that tested the IHPS and showed lesser performance vs the ECH was Oxide. I'm pretty sure he was using a legit IHPS, he has a pretty good track record with these tests. It's also interesting that in his ECH test it performed much better than in this test. All in all I think these tests were both really good, I just wonder what factors could have caused these differences.

@@chrisblack6258 I'll have to re-watch Oxides video. that certainly could cause the difference.

ACH

I looked like a dumbass with mine but also i was a medic in the guard so that should tell you all you need to know. But for real the helmet with all the padding made it look absolutely ridiculous on my skinny ass.

Im in the same boat brother (11B). I hate it. Over here in Hawaii I only wear it over my ACH because it's a little more comfortable with over the ear comms headsets.

This is true.

Very funny. That is one of the reasons that I believe now that a CSM is a waste of a great First Sgt.

And if the chin strap was secured😅

All you need is hydration

Good luck.

Of all the vice we got, briber simply ain't one of them.

@@samsonsoturian6013 Yes it is, it's just legalized and shoved under the umbrella of lobbying.

What if we put a ERA panel on the helmet? Serious answers only. ....lol.

@@InsanoBinLooney Dude- this needs to happen.

I think Ceradyne is still owned by 3M, that is who made my rifle rated helmet. Did you have any experience with RF1 or RF2 helmets? If so how did the perform during testing?

​@InsanoBinLooney probably instant death. They explode and since the helmet wouldn't have the same armor as a tank would have it would blow your head off probably. It's the reason why light armored vehicles have indentation craters from era going off.

@@some_Russian_dude just put another layer of ERA under it to protect from the explosion.

I'd probably rather have a concussion than y'know, have my brain bits be outside my skull. Like obviously it's still very bad, but that's armor in general. Not taking damage when getting shot? Too tall an order. Reduce odds of dying instantly by a good margin? Now that's reasonable

it's more about momentum than about kinetic energy. Ultralight ultrafast bullet will just vaporize on impact, despite probably having a lot of energy.

At that point of the perfect helmet what stops you from aiming lower and removing problems that way....

If only...

​@@ejtamir3133yo what do they have large ACHs for

really like the profile moniker I too, am anti-communists

yeah in oxides video it performed terribly.

The ACH is significantly less effective than the ECH or IHPS

"better coverage" lol.

@@21kiwi24 Yup! Those new high cuts worn by operators nowadays provides as much coverage as a "bicycle helmet" lol

@@danleonhart1 have you worn one? What I've found in my unit having worn pasgt, ACH and opscore, is that people are more consistant with their fitting and wearing of them. Because they are ergonomic and fit well, and are significantly lighter that rate of use is higher. For the sake of marginally additional coverage with an inferior aramid fibre I think that's a worthwhile trade off. It only offers protection when people are wearing it, not when it's sitting on the dash, or with the chinstrap undone, or strapped to your pack and you wearing a boonie because of the climate.

@@21kiwi24 oh no problem, although no helmet is guranteed.. rather reduce the risk of headshot with better helmet coverage. Just be reminded the exposed skin and bone on both sides your head. With the added ear protection gear that won't prevent rounds penetrating. If you rather die comfortable, just be sure to inform the bad guys to ambush your unit by aiming the back and foreheads only.

@Steve Sherman agreed. It comes down to the individual operator's risk assessment. Also on recommendations based on mission types and duration.

whether or not the troops actually need to be in a position that these will be saving their lives is a different story. all wars are banker wars never forget

Oxide is an idiot. He doesn't even put a dummy head inside the helmet, which means there is no outward pressure coming from the inside of the helmet to aid in structuring. Even NIJ testing has this.

I somehow have the feeling that this information is classified. As far as i know it works similar as an 18-20" .308 but from much shorter barrel lenght. Which is beneficial if everyone gets an surpressor by default.

He Did!!

​@@uwesca6263I mean, the data on the round is available, and I think the ammo might be physically available to some degree? And the rifle platform it isn't hard to make guesses on, since the exact same thing in .308 is on the market. Plug the public ass data from these two things together and you could figure quite a bit.

If you got a helmet I got the new M855A1 and the Mk-318 mod 1 ammo Plus the Mk-262…. I would do a vid for you.

New units shred game changer on the BF for sure

Got to love survivorship bias.

PASGT my beloved

Yeah, my local supermarket is no longer gonna be using plastic bags so I have to get a few of those damn reusable things.

Negligible difference. Replacing millions of helmets...again? Wow. U.S. taxpayers getting soaked.

​@@SteffiReitsch the old ones probably doesnt get destroyed. The get shelved so as soon as someone else need a lot of helmets the US can provide them asap.

​@@SteffiReitsch if the upgrade makes the soldiers more comfortable, thus increasing their battlefield performance, that's kind of the purpose of DOD upgrades.

@@SteffiReitsch you're right, we should save money and keep using M1 helmets and M1 Garands

Another example is uniforms. At least a hundred million blown on replacing the Armiy's green service uniform with blue, for no good reason. Trying to look like the civil war? Then, after a short time they've decided they don't like the blue and are changing to WWII brown! Another hundred million+ squandered. Navy, similar thing. Tons of money spent putting sailors in ridiculous infantry uniforms aboard ship- blueberry with white, so if they fall overboard they can't be seen? Then after a very short time and tons of millions blown, they ditched those blueberries for a forest green/black camouflage infantry uniform- for sailors aboard ship? LOL. Now after only a couple of years of that weirdness, the Navy is changing yet AGAIN! More millions. This time back to a blue dungaree style like the old days. OMG. Money to burn! Yeehaa.

Do you have any experience with their rifle rated helmets? I am curious how my helmet and other rifle rated ones did during testing.

3m bought by Avon... Lol.

@@thisismyname2936 Oh yeah that's right they did.

Novasteel must ring like a bell if you get hit 😆

He should try getting a reservation at Dorseas now...

Which is a BS answer because the reality is that it won't break your neck and most helmets won't protect against most small arms but they want people to have confidence in the equipment to avoid being fixed in combat. There are helmets that do stop rifle rounds at close range but they cost $3,000 so only SOF has them.

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj mate a rifle round at close range will absolutely fracture your C-Spine. The energy transfer from round to helmet going on will send your head like a bobble head and your neck is turning into a pendulum. That’s actually a ridiculous statement. I agree with you saying they’re trying inspire confidence in your kit and equipment but to suggest your C-Spine would just be ok is ridiculous, it might not be a full break of the vertebrae but that’s definitely fracturing.

@@theenclave50 It wont break your neck, it's a myth. The only possible way it would be true is if everyone broke their neck every time they fired a single shot. A bullet doesn't gain momentum in flight, it loses it.

Same. Understanding that helmets are not meant to be bulletproof (or even necessarily bullet resistant) and then taking into consideration how much lighter the IHPS is over the ACH, I was pleased with it. We all ditched the railsbecayse we weren't given the lights that are supposed to mount to them, and we used our Surefires and Streamlights instead. Other than that minor issue with supply, everyone I talked to about it liked them. It was definitely more comfortable over long periods than the ACH due to the lighter weight