FAKE vs REAL ROLEX - $400 Super Clone Yachtmaster

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What a world we live in! this is becoming all too regular & people are getting scammed daily, now don't panic the super clones aren't quite there yet but they're definitely good enough to pass off to an unsuspecting victim! Don't let that be you no matter the savings always be smart when making a purchase and fully vet the person you're buying from!
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@UdayDaherPownall Месяц назад

igrotum is the only replica manufacturer that has stock in the US and EU

@jonathansmith283 5 месяцев назад

PP - you have a great wealth of professionalism . the watch detective ! be safe. ~. ~JDS/CT

@muratveli 26 дней назад

We need more super clones! These luxury brands need to learn it the hard way they can't keep charging obscenely high prices for their "luxury" watches!

@paulcater6290 5 месяцев назад

Good to see your doing well since your stint at LB..... they lost a great asset when you left, keep up the great content 💪👍

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Appreciate it🙏🏻

@chonklife 4 месяца назад

@@Peterpic Why'd you leave LB?

@PigBuoy 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the info Peter Pic - these comparison videos are fantastic. Rumour has it there are even fakes of fakes nowadays...

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

I’ve heard the same, factories are trying to copy others.. what a world😂

@RafaelRodriguez-de9nk 2 месяца назад

The one he has is a fake of a fake. Mid grade at best. The actual superclones are INSANE

@turmanlegalsolutions 3 месяца назад

There are variations in the Gen as well from year to year and even between batches. There are changes made to the bracelet, coronet, crown, fonts etc. Rolex doesn’t announces these changes. Also, sellers of fakes often know the flaws and can correct them be replacing with Gen parts. It’s easy to source Gen hands or to have the hands refinished. You must always check the movements, that’s the one major area where the fakes still have some catching up.

@jirkav 2 месяца назад

Hi, about the dial shot, are you sure the top one is the fake watch? Because the print looks so much crisper and sharper than on the bottom one.

@Hi_Vader317 9 часов назад

This is my feeling about luxury watches. If you have the money, and i mean disposable $ to buy a real one, do it. If a clone is the closest you can get, so be it, wear it proudly and learn about the watch. Don’t try to fool a real watch person and most times they will respect you more. These watches should mean something, tell a story, celebrate a milestone. And if a $500 super clone is to celebrate a special milestone. Be proud of it and congratulations.

@pistolpete5189 5 месяцев назад

I went onto YT this morning to find out something about building regulations for a job in on, seen Peter’s new video and forgot all about work for 5 minutes and that’s cause he’s super enthusiastic and entertaining… keep it up 👍

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

You’re the man!! Thank you for always watching! And I like the name😂

@pistolpete5189 5 месяцев назад

My wife thinks I got that nick name from always being drunk when I was young lol😂

@KyleSorenti 5 месяцев назад

Without a comp, it’d be basically impossible to tell

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Scary right

@greatlakesdoug6121 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise.

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

My pleasure! Thanks for watching

@cascocatcommunity5382 5 месяцев назад

Great stuff a couple years ago I purchased a AP carbon diver from China for $800 super clone as I am a collector and really wanted to get down to see how good they were since I purchased that Watch was purchased my timepieces directly from the A.D. I just cannot trust myself as everywhere I wore that watch to the boutiques, they could not tell the difference

@kayn6858 4 месяца назад

They could literally not tell the difference between the super clone and real? Like 0 difference?

@peppecolapietro 4 месяца назад

Guardando il movimento ci vogliono 2 secondi per capire se è falso o originale @@kayn6858

@Chancer Месяц назад

@@kayn6858 many such stories. Unless they examine it or you ask them to fit a new bracelet or something, they will think it's genuine.

@ernstjdewaard 5 месяцев назад

Again great video Peter !!! Love what you do! 🇳🇱

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Thank you so much! 😀

@panaceiasuberes6464 5 месяцев назад

Amazing content from a top RU-vidr.

@tapperzukie3994 5 месяцев назад

Another great vid! keep em coming

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Thanks! Will do!

@dlang1009 3 месяца назад

I had a Super Clone took to two different Watch stores in Miami both thought it was real, a third Watch store asked if they could take apart as they could not tell. This super close cost $900 and looks amazing. It is a Stainless Pepsi GMT Master II.

@JmacAt 5 месяцев назад

A very good informative and educational video Peter, and I am sure the Rolex crown on the clasp of the fake looked bigger imo

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Yes very slightly, my statement was more towards an average first time buyer honestly because if I was green in this business I’d have a tough time on this one!

@164Vault 4 месяца назад

It's scary now and I started to not trust sellers anymore apart from rolex themselves. Unless im a seasoned watch collector or dealer, how do I actually know which one is which + if we dont know what to look for? Disturbing. Heck, even having an access to a real one to compare with in the first place is already hard on its own. What a world we live in!

@buridah328 Месяц назад

Are you high ? Fuck waiting lists. Grab a clone. Don’t waste your life waiting like a loser. Rolex treat their customers like beggars. Time for things to change.

@vic8552 5 месяцев назад

easiest way is always to look at the movement. The replicas cant pull off the freesprung balance. Screenshot 5:40 and use that as a reference for any rolex you want to authenticate. The replica will always have the micro adjusters.

@TheNewryRFC 5 месяцев назад

like these videos, education is always good and the way super clones are going not everyone can have 100 items going through your hands to catch it

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Exactly! Just trying to give a quick intro to them, they are getting better but still not good enough!

@TheNewryRFC 5 месяцев назад

@@Peterpickeep them coming need leaders to show the rest whats outs there. for example, I have a few god tear casio, want to get a rolex after saving up. I dont know what to look for, the same way say maybe you dont know what a phishing email could be, or a lemon of a car. But again, its comes down to your point. If you know who your buying off there is no risk. FYI love the content (Ireland) PS Nico wishes he was you!!!

@DecemberNames 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for another amazing video. It is great to watch experts like you put the hard dedication on RU-vid for our joy.

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! Appreciate this tremendously

@dean5346 5 месяцев назад

I worked out which one was the fake straight away. From the colour of the dial gave it away for me. It’s an amazing model the Yacht Master, I bought the blue dial version.

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Exactly ! Great eye for that the color definitely gives it away

@alanledzep1967 5 месяцев назад

Great video brother. Have a great weekend! 🙏

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Thank you! And you as well!

@SuperBANDIT68 5 месяцев назад

you got a go to the macro to see the diference

@operationtruth288 5 месяцев назад

Paul Throupe sells the 1:1 Superclones. Absolutely Amazing

@dannysimenauer5745 5 месяцев назад

I stopped watching Thorpe after he lied about his relationship with Anthony Farrer. Is Thorpe selling these Superclones knowing their fake as a new side hustle?

@operationtruth288 5 месяцев назад

He always has sold Superclones. He never mentions it on his YT channel but he has them@@dannysimenauer5745

@JohnnyDouchbag-nr5yf 3 месяца назад

Lol

@bperez221 5 месяцев назад

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 great video

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Glad you liked it!! Thanks

@blackhatter1980 2 месяца назад

they never get the balance wheel and spring right im still to see this on a super clone

@alexguraliuc1362 5 месяцев назад

Great video !

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed it thanks for watching🙏🏻

@K12war 5 месяцев назад

Looking forward to the Peter X Producer Michael collab

@jakepayton 5 месяцев назад

would love to see them marked real and fake instead of A and B

@AdamMurrayLive 5 месяцев назад

It's interesting to note that rolex had all sides of the second hand blue where the fake only did the top.

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Yea you can definitely tell with the naked eye

@djwilliams4714 5 месяцев назад

Love the video but not sure why you switched A & B from left to right on the screen

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Had to switch it up, shot horizontally so that also didn’t help😂 but basically to make people look and just not expect where the “fake” is

@robertbachmann8141 5 месяцев назад

How does the date change compare between the real and fake movement?

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Right on time, no issue with that however I did notice it wasn’t as crisp as the authentic one.

@164Vault 3 месяца назад

Notice how the "Yachtmaster" on the real one has a brighter saturated light blue compared to the fake. Fake has a darker, dull kindly

@Peterpic 3 месяца назад

very true

@dannysimenauer5745 5 месяцев назад

Peter, point well taken. 99% of us collectors won't be able to know if we bought a fake or not online. Because of this Rolex rolled out its CPO Program, but at prices higher than retail. I wanted to ask your opinion if you think the prices that Rolex charges is worth buying CPO or not? Secondly, many large volume grey market dealers do not have a watchmaker onboard to verify authenticity like you do for your business. In your expert opinion, are these fakes getting through these large volume grey market dealers?

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Absolutely they are getting through dealers hands I’ve seen it happen numerous times. CPO Is an absolute joke, prices are out of control as well. You’re basically paying double or triple just to get a used watch with a CPO card.. it helps Grey dealers as we are priced significantly less but the mass public would like the “cpo” reassurance, go to sell it and you’re losing 50%+ easily

@dannysimenauer5745 5 месяцев назад

@@Peterpic I agree fully. I would rather buy from you than overpay for a CPO priced watch. Hopefully enough of us won’t buy CPO and prices will plummet.

@nr1416 5 месяцев назад

Have you ever seen a fake movement with a free sprung balance? Because that's usually the first thing I look for ...

@GentlemensWatchServices 5 месяцев назад

That’s my question too. I’ve not seen one myself

@Ds92817 5 месяцев назад

They exist for sure, but as franken watches - as Peter said, parts can be swapped out so the most obvious thing to swap out in the movement is the balance

@GentlemensWatchServices 5 месяцев назад

@@Ds92817 That’s a challenging swap out. There’s a lot going on with the relationship between pallet and balance. Have you seen one or taking an educated guess of their existence?

@AlisonMarise Месяц назад

There are rumors that igrotum has the Rolex database of serial numbers and sells replicas with the same serial numbers as the originals

@nickhull83 5 месяцев назад

Lets GOOOOOO!!!

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

🙏🏻🙏🏻 thank you !

@Samsicecream 3 месяца назад

There a 800$ super clone that is perfect. Even watch dealers are selling them ass real.

@CornieNatasha Месяц назад

igrotum is the only replica factory that sells and manufactures their watches themselves also have original serial numbers. That's why they are the best

@masterwatch 5 месяцев назад

with all the Rolex fakes out there literally flooding the grey market you have to be so careful... buy the seller more than the watch.

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

BINGO! Great comment right here half of these dealers have no idea what they’re even looking at I see it all the time.

@madara-wh8ge 4 месяца назад

Is that the arf rolex yacht master or the clean factory?

@Peterpic 3 месяца назад

some other viewers said clean factory

@melikatabeyli 5 месяцев назад

Scary how identical these replicas are starting to get, need to carry around a magnifying glass for this.

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Exactly, however I can usually just see it within a few seconds but toss a few real parts in the mix and boom you have a much harder situation on your hands

@Ds92817 5 месяцев назад

True that Peter, real bezel, real dial, real hands and a real movement and then it’s much harder (still not impossible though, with a little knowledge and experience) - it can be helpful to know common serials the fake factories use but even then these can be customised for a premium….

@user-oj1kk2wf1e 4 месяца назад

In Toronto canada I buy a super super clone I bring it to a rolex expert he say it was real rolex . Unbelievable. Your super clone look just like mine. You a expert but a regular person like me will never know. Imagine on NKUWAN

@KrawnKam 5 месяцев назад

Imagine a day where watches are scanned into AI at the factory that creates a LLM that can be used to spot fakes. I bet money you will see that within 10 years.

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

I should immediately start working on this😂 great idea actually

@dannysimenauer5745 5 месяцев назад

KrawnKam, I see the opposite happening (unless I misunderstood your point). I can see the fake watch producers using AI and hi-res cameras to produce a more perfect fake, albeit with cheaper materials.

@latibes 4 месяца назад

When they create the free sprung balance then it’s game over!

@Peterpic 4 месяца назад

I don't think they ever will, cost affective & they'd rather keep making "updates" to make more money

@Mariop92 5 месяцев назад

🐐🐐🐐

@1nation919 5 месяцев назад

I’d like to order the 400$ one is there a site I could order from? Maybe take that one off your hands?

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

I have no idea where to get them, some Chinese site I’d imagine

@1nation919 5 месяцев назад

@@Peterpic yes I’m scared to order with out a good recommendation lol!

@gaffs82 4 месяца назад

These are scary good. Hard to tell unless you have a real to hand

@Peterpic 4 месяца назад

BINGO very scary

@Dazulolwarrior 5 месяцев назад

Man I miss your content it's been quite some time

@Peterpic 4 месяца назад

thanks!

@Sb-sz3cn 5 месяцев назад

get the show on da road...pettttter

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

😂😂 I didn’t realize I set it as a premiere !

@ManUmayrAbadi Месяц назад

The only replica factory that produces and sells their watches in Europe and the United States is igrotum

@ron74555 5 месяцев назад

Would love to see how these fakes perform on a timegrapher in multiple positions. Wonder if that could be another way to spot a fake.

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Absolutely can! But not the best way to go about it as a fake can be regulated same as genuine not.

@ron74555 5 месяцев назад

@@PeterpicBut wouldn't the delta be higher than a real Rolex?

@SergeiJag Месяц назад

igrotum is the only replica factory that operates on United States soil without getting caught by the authorities

@MorcosMeneur Месяц назад

Criminals from igrotum hacked into the Rolex database, and now they are selling replicas with original documentation

@MichaelMitchell-vk9lk 5 месяцев назад

My problem is buying watches that sold as fully serviced that absolutely weren’t.

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Bingo! Another major point, I can confidently say most dealers don’t even know how to check if there’s oil on jewels.. but they’ll happily say oh yea it’s running great 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

@oliverjames6913 5 месяцев назад

So this is a $400 clone. What happens when you buy a $1200 clone. I mean, the lack of a free sprung balance is always the most obvious give away but at some point the fakes will have that too.

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Well technically you can put a real balance on the fake 😂 I believe it’s cost affective for the companies to try and replicate this, but yes they will only get better never perfect but one day they will be “close” enough

@fredochinaski9968 5 месяцев назад

Got to admit, thé clone IS super well done...IS it coming from Paul tugging thorpy's son?

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Chill😂 I believe this one is made by the “clean” factory

@tapperzukie3994 5 месяцев назад

@@Peterpic Do a VSF Sub next. Thats supposedly the best sub clone on the market. Would be interesting to get a professional opinion.

@douglasslifkin4924 5 месяцев назад

You should do a collab with Marco from grand caliber.

@akhrormuminov7180 5 месяцев назад

Why😂

@alexbigtoe4726 8 дней назад

So if you have a microscope you can see some difrences 😅😅

@nauticatom 5 месяцев назад

For 325 dollars you can buy an authentic 3235 automatic winding component set and slap it into a replica 3235

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

EXACTLY RIGHT! This is why you need to have someone you can trust / know what they’re looking at to make sure the watch is 100% real

@OakLawnSpeedShop Месяц назад

Real one says Thirty One Jewels. Fake says 31 Jewels…..

@swing8 Месяц назад

this is why I just stick with homage watches. I’m getting nice looking crap, but I’m only paying for nice looking crap. The only thing I’m paying more than $5k for is a Grand Seiko.

@KyleSorenti 5 месяцев назад

Kind of an odd watch to fake

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

Probably one of the best yachts to be released! These are actually very popular

@74shelia 3 месяца назад

What I take from this is that wealthy people are wearing fake Rolex and other fake watches. Wealthy people don’t pay for high quality watches. It doesn’t make sense. If you know the person is wealthy, then why do they need to prove that their watches are real.

@Peterpic 2 месяца назад

A watch is an accomplishment some people work for it then finally get it everyones different

@ernestclayboniii656 2 месяца назад

@@PeterpicGreat content!

@TheRacerRich 5 месяцев назад

Interestingly I knew which one was fake at the start but the way he presented them while saying one was sent in I thought I was wrong, and thought to myself weird that the fake is the better one

@deepseadweller687 5 месяцев назад

The fakes are junk. Outside look close but wear it and see how long it lasts and it feels fake

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

correct!

@boristhebladej8055 4 месяца назад

It is so annoying to me that if you want to buy fucking Rolex you nead to put your name in waiting list and then after waiting for who knows how long they will sell you watch that costs thousands of dollars that is better then replica but you nead to use microscope to determine if it is fake or real.

@WristHunt 5 месяцев назад

He keeps saying he's not worried, he can tell... but I can tell you right off, those bracelets being produced now are exact fits and once refinished many authenticators like him can't tell. They just pretend so they can continue selling watches. I have seen the best authenticators here pass off fake bracelets as originals. You can easily swap parts and never know the difference. Good luck.. moral of the story is don't pay above retail.

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

I’m not worried.. handle 100s of watches a month wether it be purchases or just looking they will never be perfect

@WristHunt 5 месяцев назад

@@Peterpic Someone could have swapped some of the links and combined it with a Gen clasp. You cannot tell. Only Rolex can because they use a microscope. Also you are showing a cheap fake. There is better ones out there 😅

@KorrieJabalah Месяц назад

igrotum is only replica company that have waiting list beacuse people sell their watches as originals so they are always out of stock

@Woodman.420 5 месяцев назад

Vsf

@VSwatchfactory 3 месяца назад

No,the movement of the movement is different.this is shanghai movement.and the movement of vs from dandong

@Christopher0632 4 месяца назад

They're both real 🤣

@Peterpic 3 месяца назад

that's how scary it is haha

@cmg3988 Месяц назад

All these videos highlight tiny imperfections with crafting or the font…but how does it hold up as a time piece?If you need a magnifying glass to tell the difference and it functions the same then it just shows how overpriced Rolex’s are

@GeorgeA.Martinez Месяц назад

igrotum is the best factory for replicas

@patrickdeboer1377 4 месяца назад

What ? Where do you buy those fakes ? Asking for a friend 😏

@Peterpic 3 месяца назад

no idea china I guess haha

@banistr 5 месяцев назад

I don't see a $14K difference....ha

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

replica = worthless essentially real = liquid cash someone somewhere in the world will always buy a watch it really just depends on a persons financial means but they do look better on camera then in person.

@johnswick7108 3 месяца назад

I like ya but dude you glaze rolex so hard lol I like watches did a comparison with San Martin. I think you’d be surprised with some of the results.

@Peterpic 3 месяца назад

Bruhhh its the best brand honestly haha

@johnswick7108 3 месяца назад

@@Peterpic they are certainly one of the best.

@JS-xk6dr 5 месяцев назад

I owned 5 high quality fake ones and no one knows! My money is in the bank ! Just saying 😂

@Peterpic 5 месяцев назад

everyone has their own preferences, and financial means, for most a watch isn't just a flex it means something to them hence why they go real. if I was in a 3rd world country or one with a high crime rate id probably wear a replica as well not worth risking my life..

@NatashaOsgarby Месяц назад

I only trust igrotum replicas because they are the best

@SomeoneSmarter 3 месяца назад

This is why I would never buy an expensive watch from a dealer. Many have a policy not to take the back off, so they can not tell real from superclone.

@Molino-Red 4 месяца назад

Not to disrespect authentic Rolex’s but im interested in purchasing a 1:1 super clone can anybody point me in the right direction?

@RafaelRodriguez-de9nk 2 месяца назад

There's no such thing as a $500 super clone... You're holding a mid grade copy.

@Peterpic 2 месяца назад

its made by a company called VSF which to my understanding is the best out there I sell real watches not this junk

@RafaelRodriguez-de9nk 2 месяца назад

I appreciate what you're doing here. This video is crazy informative! But, just for informational purposes, the watch in the video is from the clean factory. The VSF version of this watch has a cleaner crystal and a much better movement. Even more scary! Sell me that authentic broski!!!

@liberumx8900 2 месяца назад

I get and respect the fact that you're trying to inform and educate people like myself and I do thank you but, at the same time you are also educating the People who produce the Fake ones on how to make them better. Believe they are out there watching your video and many others while taking notes.

@Peterpic 2 месяца назад

they will never make a perfect clone, specifically cause they kill all future business by doing so

@liberumx8900 2 месяца назад

@@Peterpic That's a good point but, it is my understanding that Asian's are perfectionists by nature in a constant quest to get better and better.

@zivkovicable Месяц назад

@@liberumx8900 "Asian's are perfectionists by nature"...That's such a massive generalisation when you are talking about a whole continent of people. Even if you narrow that down to just Chinese people, there are huge variations of culture within that one Asian country. Positive racial stereotypes are still harmful.