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Falconry: Sakers and Prairies

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This video compares Saker falcons to Prairie falcons. It discusses the similarities and differences, strengths and weaknesses and historical use of each species.
If you would like to dive deeper into the history of Saker's in Arabian falconry, please check out Andy Edward's amazing video, "Falcons of Arabia": • Falcons of Arabia
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@jfreid3174 3 года назад

Prairie falcons are the most maneuverable though...craziest moves on birds and games, my personal favorite! They definitely have a different hunting tactics

@dirktepe6534 3 года назад

As a falconer with 15 years of hunting experience, it is always nice to hear opinions from falconers from other countries around the world. Different perspectives, methods and always something new! I have never seen anyone hunt with a prairie falcon over here. I look forward to more videos from you! Greetings from Germany

@eliasgarcia1673 3 года назад

Thanks Ben all of your videos help me pass my Falconry exam🙂

@gregoryh4601 3 года назад

Thanks so much again on this learning on Falconry. God Bless

@Phuskooz 3 года назад

TWO VIDEOS IN 2 DAYS?!?! YESSSSSS!!!!

@LordDaymien 3 года назад

Maybe a video about getting started with your 1st big longwing. Telemetry, passage bird vs chamber bred, do I need a pigeon loft in order to reliably train a large longwing?

@suarezci 3 года назад

Hi Ben! As a falconer in the Caribbean, I have a really reduced amount of falconry birds but one of my favourite is the red tail, here they're smaller than yours and also behaves a bit different, I'd love to see one of your videos about them and how their mindset would change in the tropics...Cheers from the D.R.

@jantirpak7902 3 года назад

Good evening, great video. Whether the mangala or glove is on the right or on the left hand. It depends on the use of the horse. The horse is mounted on the left side and therefore the predator is on the right hand. If the falconer is walking or there is a predator on his left hand in the car. In medieval Europe, the predator was on the left. For they had delivered him to the king after he had been hired.

@thefoxoropeza7906 3 года назад

Prairie falcons are good duck hunters they hit like bricks

@fkmbmw 3 года назад

Hey Ben. The most important point about the Saker/Sager falcon and why we in the Middle East use them since dawn of time is their character. And by character, i mean that Saker falcons are the most ferocious of all falcons.

@yopierre6407 3 года назад

fkmbmw No, they are not.

@rickthomas2336 3 года назад

Love the vids, if u ever head north to Montana, please advise. Great stuff. Look forward to seeing the vids pop-up on my phone. I go right to them and watch intently! Thanks for taking the time! Rick from Montana

@michaelgerowjr.1299 10 дней назад

Another great video to help me along the way,, thank you

@geremiapeluzzi5304 3 года назад

Please do a video on lanner falcon ! I have a male and a female falco biarmicus feldeggii , i fly them to the lure not hunting and they are amazing. The most beautiful falcon in the world. Love your channel from Tuscany, Italy

@dericfranks8499 3 года назад

Hey Ben, First off wanted to say thank you for all of the great videos you put out. You have some of the best videos out there for falconry. I have learned so much from you. You always say at the end of your videos that if we have any questions pleas put them in the comments. Well I have been looking for videos discussing diseases and what to look for and how to treat them. I have read alot abut them in books but I like to hear an actual person talking about them and learn better that way. I listen to my sponsor and he is great. I like how in-depth you get on subjects and you have a way of talking about subjects that i really connect with. so is there any way you can do a video on diseases please.

@SL-vx1sx 3 года назад

Thanks for another great video.

@williampinchers 3 года назад

Love your videos matey , superb thanks

@DanielCastillo911 3 года назад

What about a video of small raptors comparison?, and later on specifics comparison between those tiny predators

@lohikarhu734 3 года назад

Yes ... ;-) Immer interresant! It must be that you have lost track of how many birds you have flown, but it's pretty obvious that you have found some part of the character of most of them to enjoy/admire, thus you bring that to these videos...it does seem that the Peregrine is quite the favourite, though. Cheers, keep 'em comin' !

@Aaron65444 3 года назад

Can you give a longer video about red-tails. Weight, gender, disposition, hunting strategies, is telemetry necessary, are there redtail hybrids aside from redbacks?

@heshamkhaled6242 3 года назад

great information .. waiting for lanner falocn video

@reesfleming4247 2 года назад

Really enjoyed the Saker information

@alfieclayton3418 3 года назад

Hi can we have a red tail hawk review I know it is not really needed in the USA but here in the Uk they are growing in popularity

@benwoodrufffalconry 3 года назад

Yes. I should have made one a LONG time ago. But I have been waiting to get more additional footage. I think this is a very important video to get finished.

@dimorrissey 3 года назад

@@benwoodrufffalconry Looking forward to it! New apprentice who was too late to trap a bird this season so I'll be looking for my first red-tail in September!

@travis43 3 года назад

THANK YOU!!!!

@keerthivasannambiraju955 Год назад

fun fact: speaking of missing a role, North America is home to 2 tiny accipitrines while in England there is only one, the European sparrowhawk vs the Sharp shinned hawk and Coopers hawk. the sparrowhawk is in-between the size of the sharp shin and the coopers with the male one being the same size as a female sharp shin while the female one being the same size as a male cooper's, so there is a role missing in Britain, they do not have a sharp-shin role so the sparrowhawk is filling both these roles.

@lamaspacos 3 года назад

05:00, Life is FLUID. Absolutely RIGHT. (The divisions, in species or so, is only an approximation of the actual biodiversity.)

@ChecoKings 3 года назад

Nice video, the only simmilar in feathers, they are completly different birds

@kingmumuni1830 3 года назад

Ben l loved your video about prairie falcons and saker falcon. Can you make a video about about Lanner falcons subspecies 😎😎😎😎

@keerthivasannambiraju955 Год назад

I am having a bit of a headache about this one so here goes 1. The prairie falcon was once considered a giant falcon like the saker, lanner, lugger and gyrfalcon but endemic to North America until DNA studies found it to be closer to the peregrine. 2. The saker breeds with all species of giant falcons but also with peregrines too, In fact in addition to subspecies, the saker is found to have 4 different ancient hybrid lineages, one with a peregrine ancestor, one with a gyrfalcon, one with a lanner, one with a luggar and yet another one with some other falcon species I probably don't know about. This could explain the Altai falcon which is said to be a hybrid of the saker & gyr, a subspecies of the saker or a unique species itself. Plus there is a subspecies of saker that reminds me of a lanner while there is a subspecies of the lanner itself that looks like a saker. 3. It is yet to be known if there were peregrine divergences in Asia where the giant falcons live today and if there were ancient giant falcons from different unrelated lineages living in ancient times. 4. Work is still being done on the bird of prey family tree and history so this may change in the future Is this sufficient to say that we have a real problem with the saker? In my opinion, absolutely. It could either be a giant falcon or ancient peregrine offshoot that split off to evolve giant falcon features independently or a descendant of a hybridizing event in either Africa or Asia.

@Primenumber19 3 года назад

Have you ever done one of these on a peregrine? Also a breakdown of the osprey would be great!

@4englishlies875 3 года назад

Great video, I have an idea that I would like more information on, handling practices. I know they are not pets so how much handling can you do , hand feeding, maintenance, and training, I would assume you have touch them to some extent. What would be to much handling, petting, keeping them in your house allowing kids to touch and what not I would think is a no no but what is the real story.

@barnabas111 2 года назад

More info about Sakers would be great. Training, hunting, attitude, pros and cons.

@DocDabuca 3 года назад

Still waiting on Ferruginous hawk.

@jordynmorris6153 3 года назад

Red shoulder and a...........cooper’s hawk?

@keerthivasannambiraju955 Год назад

In my opinion the reason why the saker, lugger, lanner role is Almost missing is because of the presence of buteo hawks. Buteos are found in the old world and new world but the American ones are more active hunters than in Central Asia that is because in the old world they have to contend with more numerous species of eagles, large falcons that are adapted to catch mammals and even large owls like the eagle owls and so to reduce competition they frequently scavenge. they can hunt but they will just as easily scavenge. Having said this though the closest falcon to fill the Lanner or Lugger role in the Americas is the Aplomado Falcon.

@afshinmofid858 3 года назад

Hi Ben. I’m wondering if a Saker or prairie falcon would be a good choice for chukar hawking , if flown directly off the fist. I have used goshawks before for chukars but love sakers and prairies and wondered if they could be used. Thanks.

@keerthivasannambiraju955 Год назад

jackrabbits are not found in the middle east but hares are.

@thefalconryexperience2269 2 года назад

My friend has a gyr/saker that has feathers that are either gyr or saker a definite split down the middle.

@keerthivasannambiraju955 9 месяцев назад

You do forget that Prairie Falcons are Narrower in body shape than a peregrine though not to the extent of a Cooper's Hawk or an Aplomado Falcon.

@dr.anneposthoff469 2 года назад

Hi Ben, I'm a vet from Germany. I just passed my hunter exam which is mandatory for the falconer exam... very complicated in Germany ... I am hoping to do my falconer exam in Sept. Here's my question: Do all falcons crossbread ? In Germany it's strictly forbidden to corssbread raptors, you even cannot sell you Crossbread in Germany if you have one

@SplotchTG Год назад

Hey, I know I’m not Ben lol but yes, falcons are all very closely related and most (not necessarily all) are able to be hybridized

@oldschoolhawking8191 3 года назад

There's one bird this kind of confusing to me Ben, and that is the black sparrow hawk. It's classified as a sparrow hawk, but is the size of a goshawk. How did that happen? OSH :-)

@GURWINDER_RAI 3 года назад

Sparrowhawk is primarily bird hunter while goshawk is mammal +bird hunter. Black sparrowhawk is the largest sparrowhawk but quite smaller than a northern goshawk. I am confused with the Levant sparrowhawk and I think it's a goshawk than a sparrowhawk! IMO :)

@oldschoolhawking8191 3 года назад

@@GURWINDER_RAI I'm comparing the Black Sparrowhawk's size, to the N. American Goshawks that I flew over two decades. The average female Black Sparrowhawk weighs around 34 Oz. That's about the average size of California or Nevada female Goshawk. So my question is, why was it specified as a Sparrowhawk and not a Goshawk? What's the determining factor?

@GURWINDER_RAI 3 года назад

@@oldschoolhawking8191 accipiters are classified into 2 groups i.e goshawks and sparrowhawks. From a distance they look very similar but from a closer look they will look different in built. Sparrowhawks have long - skinny legs with very long middle toe(about 3 times longer than the first toe). But in goshawks you will see long legs but are thicker (compared to sparrowhawks) and their toes are smaller and chunkier , the middle toe is around twice the length of first toe. To get it easy: goshawks are similar in appearance to sparrowhawks but they are built between sparrowhawks and buteos. Northern Goshawks have very wide range ,thats why they come within various size with respect to the geographical region (like the peregrine). Black sparrowhawk is African bird and is a uniform species. Also goshawks possess aggressive facial look like and eagle. But sparrowhawk have large buggy eyes about in the centre of the head. Examples:- Goshawks: N. Goshawk , cooper's hawk, gundlach's hawk, Shikra , crested goshawk. Etc. Sparrowhawks: blacks sparrowhawk, eurasian sparrowhawk, sharp shinned hawk, besra , ovampo sparrowhawk. Etc. Hope you got little bit the determining factor.

@keerthivasannambiraju955 Год назад

Despite its name the Black Sparrowhawk is actually related to the European/Asian Goshawk along with two other species, the Henst's Goshawk of Madagascar and the Meyer's goshawk of the Solomon Islands that resembles the Black Sparrowhawk.

@skink_wrangler69 2 года назад

I’ve been wondering is it possible to use a shotgun flying style with a gyrfalcon?

@keerthivasannambiraju955 Год назад

10:10: I thought the saker was the falcon most commonly associated with middle eastern falconry since lanners are mostly from Africa.

@gregvanfleet5586 3 года назад

Have you heard of anyone hunting with a laner falcon from the fist?

@benwoodrufffalconry 3 года назад

I have not. I always flew them “hedge hawking” style, or else from waiting on. I have seen people online fly them from extremely low pitches. They do have the capability to hunt off the fist, but doing so is wiser with prey that typically doesn’t fly forever, such as partridge or quail. I will try to get a Lanner video up in the next few weeks.

@kevinparker461 2 года назад

A couple of passage Lanner falcons were successful on rooks in the UK in the 1960s when passage birds were available. This was started off the fist pursuit & by all accounts good flights

@kazzarthompson6931 2 года назад

Hi Ben I’ve enjoyed watching your vids I know a little about birds of prey could you talk about why they never seem to drink water I personally have never seen them drink water 💦 thanks

@jasoncopin 2 года назад

I have been settled with if different taxonomy groups produce fertile young then same species.The land influences over the generation the organism. purple-throated carib humming bird male and female don't feed from the same sources. A rare example of sexual dimorphism.

@danielchisolm9528 Год назад

Can I have a hawk on my semi truck with me

@Ran-vm7fu 3 года назад

Bwa hahahaa!! You're an idiot!! I thought I was gonna die!! Love your dialog.. So, you touched a little on bating there for a moment, but I'd really like to pick your brain on the concept. What's it all about, why do they do it, is there any way to mitigate it? Or am I just dreamin? thanks Ben!