Fallout 3 is the Best Fallout Fan Game 

Fallout 3 was my first entry into the series. I hadn't played or ever heard of the previous games. The way I always saw Bethesdas fallout setting was "okay remember how everyone was scared of getting nuked in the 50s? Ok what if that actually happened"

You know what I just thought of? In some of the new vegas DLCs you'll hear the phrase "Old World Blues" which means someone so blinded by the past they can't live in the present or move on to the future, seems fitting for bethesda's fallouts when you think about it.

The first time I played through fallout 3, was before the ending patch. I clearly remember loading that last save and trying so mamy different things. That original ending was one of the only real blemishes I could see at the time, when it came out.

The way Bethesda created Fallout 3 remind me of how I used to draw my own versions of the movies and games I liked as a kid. They would have all the recognizable characters that would use the weapons and tools they used, there were the enemies (sometimes original, cooler ones), cool locations based on what I had seen etc. It was really cool and great for me, but in retrospect it was all done through the surface understanding of the source material by a dumb kid. And it was not meant to be anything more than that. I had passion but no real understanding of why I liked those things in the first place. Now to do real justice to the source material I would have had to dig deeper, understood the character motivations, the background lore, driving forces through the stories etc. This is what should be expected of anyone continuing an existing franchise, otherwise you get shitty sequels. It requires both passion and understanding to create something truly great. Now while it does seem that a lot of the Bethesda dev team actually did have genuine passion, they lacked understanding in a lot of places where it mattered. Thus the reuse of existing west-coast factions, characters, creatures and breaking established lore for one-off gags and such.

Very well done sir...fallout 3 got me through my deployment to Iraq in 09-10... Made me a fan for life...that's why 76 so disappointing

Was I the only person who found the promise of Fallout 3 being "Oblivion with guns" titillating?!?! I mean, I know I'm the only person who weirdly says titillating, but guns in Oblivion sounds great!

This just shows that all Bethesda cares for when making these games is brand recognition - it HAS to have BoS, caps, etc., even if it doesn't make any sense for them to be there

"Best fallout fan game" is like "best game fueled by mountain dew" at the game awards

Fallout 4 was my first entry to the Fallout games. It was pretty neat i tell ya. Felt like Skyrim at times. After many people on the internet saying Fallout 3 and New Vegas are the best games. So i started with Fallout 3. My god , it was breathtaking. Bloody loved the whole purification and enclave quest. It was amazing ended up sacrificing myself. And then i played New Vegas. And it completely possessed me. It was the superior version compared to 3. Fallout 3 has amazing locations and quests but New Vegas was the shit. The dialogues , guns , the main quest etc. Bloody loved it. Fallout 3’s endings are kinda eh to me. If you sacrifice yourself you good. And if you don’t you’re kinda off favor. But New Vegas , goddamn New Vegas’ endings still keeps people discussing which one is THE best ending for the mojave.

I always assumed that the caravans were from the west cost and introduced caps as a currency. That or the brotherhood did so.

Fallout 3 will always hold a special place in my heart for being my first fallout. I wasn’t old enough to get the game so I had to talk my grandpa into getting it for me and from that point on it’s the only game I played for months. I credit it to my love of RPGs today and why I picked up the original fallouts and NV later on.

To be completely honest, I think there are a lot of overhaul fan mods which completely blow FO3 out of the water. The people who make these mods are bigger fans, and have more talent than Bethesda. The only thing they do not have is their own game and a budget. FO3/FO4/etc. Soon enough when you get your PC you will be able to check out these overhaul mods and see how they compare with vanilla FO3, etc.

Are you doing all the fallout games now? Because I am up for that

I wish youtube would stop recommending me Fallout videos... Its a painful subject. Back when i was 14 or so... I thought Fallout 3 was the worst thing ever made... It ruined my favourite franchise and setting. Being a teenager at the time i didn't care much and just got on with mass effect... Then came Fallout 4...Its main story that was a repeat of fallout 3. its complete lack of sidequests that weren't a one way kill/loot trip made me consider Fallout 3 as the best thing Bethesda had ever done for Fallout. Aside from letting Obsidian make their own version of course. The Fallout franchise was dead to me after 4 that made the arrival of 76 a non event and any subsequent Fallout game is already in my "I dont give a shit list". All that is left are the melancholic ambient sounds of Fallout 1-2 background music that give me the same sense of emptiness loneliness and dread as they always have with a tinge of sadness for this once amazing RPG series. Turned into a survival looter shooter.

Still have a soft spot for 3 due to introducing me to the franchise. I now consider 3 a tech demo, where it only meant to introduce how modern Fallout games would be like with future entries building from there. New Vegas to me the much better game. 3 there are a lot of elements that could be rewritten to make it make better sense. The BoS should have the Outcasts be the main group not the ones we known, aka the guys who want to left the hell alone. Caps would have worked if it was a currency with only certain NPCs used them mainly random merchants. Enclave could only work if it was just a minor group that’s struggling to survive. They shouldn’t have been the main antagonists.

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*reads title up until last part* Brain: Whoa, hold up there cowboy *reads last part* Oh, alright. That's agreeable enough.

"Fallout 3 is the Best Fallout Fan game." Fallout Miami: Hold my nuka cola

Oblivion with guns damn a game stop employee who knows what he's talking about

Many prefer New Vegas to FO3, but i always loved the darker and sadder atmosphere of 3.

This actually makes a lot of sense. "Its like fans who lived in Maryland wanted to make a fallout game set where they live." Can't believe you put it in to words so well!

I prefer fo3 over all others in this series. I just never got invested in the west coast games.

I like New California better.

Fallout 3 is also when it stopped being a tragedy and started being a fantasy, which is in line with its status as fanfic. 1 and 2 were about scarcity, injustice, and despair. Everyone was dying and it was a battle to die the slowest as communities fight over the last remaining resources on Earth. In the 3D games, the outlook is always sunny and multiple generations can spend their working lives looting one grocery store that somehow never runs out of stuff.

Am I the only one who sees a missed opportunity with the Chinese remnants being reduced to little more than an unrelated dungeon crawl completely isolated from anything going on with the main story at all? At least the Shi played a role in the main quest in Fallout 2.

Back in 2008, I was introduced to Oblivion for the first time fell in love (except I never beat it to this day ) and I also got introduced to Fallout 3 and hated. About a year after Skyrim which I was struggling to get into I saw a video on youtube reviewing a mod for Skyrim and I watched it. Thought it was neat and checked out the channel reviewing it. It was Alchectbreach and I saw that he played a Fallout game I never heard of New Vegas. So I watched and got interested and decided to give 3 another shot because they looked similar enough and fell in love.

I really like fallout 3 but new vegas oh babe i cant rid of it from my mind, i really really love this game.

Just like i did on Seamus's video, I'm gonna have to disagree with the retrofuturism bit. It is mostly an afterthought in fallout 3 with the minor acception of places untouched by the war, Vault 112 & 101. Vault 112 makes the most sense, and is sad as it's the story of a man desperately clinging on to a lost time where he felt safe. For Vault 101, I'm going to guess they had old greaser movies lying around and that's what inspired Butch and co. People tend to cling to some sort of culture, culture is ultimately derived from other cultures, the idea that people would look to something and emulate it isn't at all far fetched. As for the cars and whatnot, these were in fallout 1 & 2 so idk why it's brought up. the retrofuturism is hammed up a bit in fallout 4 but it seems mostly incidental, as in, "I'm wearing this because it's available" and not "I'm wearing this because it's fashionable"

It makes sense that the Brotherhood of Steel would be on the East Coast: Their original mission was to find the Midwestern chapter (from Tactics) and they couldn't find them, and a line of dialogue from one Scribe implies that they are in a bad shape, so the canon ending in that one was that the Calculator was destroyed, but the chapter was exahusted and they had shelved the reunification plans. Enclave being there makes sense too, New Vegas suggested that they even have a chapter in Chicago, and they must have had trekked through the entire Midwest, just like the BoS did. DC being the capital of US, so Enclave must have had a vested interest in taking it. In retrospect, if it was a fan made game, surely the option to join the Enclave would have been available. They are not as genocidal as in 2, with intent to do that is being limited to Eden and some other people. Autumn even expressed concern for Eden's plans, which is why he had those self-destruct codes as a 'backup plan'. If they had a route, one of their quests could be to make Eden self-destruct, as opposed what we have now, where self destruction is optional. Also, considering what Bethesda is doing now, i would welcome a true "fan game". Preferably one where it takes place before the war, or better yet, in Europe. Europe in the timeline ended up in a worse state, and considering that Colin Moriarty and Tenpenny outright immigrated from Europe, the war didn't make it much better. Either way, retconning stuff was kind of a strech, but they explained it well. i hope this makes sense.

Fallout 3 is my favorite fallout game, it seemed to have more action and more satisfying missions with just enough rpg elements. Fallout New Vegas while being a superior game RPG wise had a cumbersome and abhorable ammunition and gun maintenance system that consumed far too much of the players time and energy, I say that even as an ardent fan of looters shooters. Fallout New Vegas while having deep RPG roots had too many missions that felt like fetch quests, instead of just fewer missions that let you explore and run into trouble along the way, like Fallout 3 did. Fallout 3 was my favorite Fallout game, it was mostly all meat and potatoes.

That's the most based take I've ever heard

11:00 - Bethesda did create two completely local factions that served the same function, but woefully underused them - Talon Company / Littlehorn Associates and The Regulators. Even the Sheriff of Megaton was a Regulator. The primary conflict of the game over the water purifier could’ve and should have been between Talon Company and The Regulators instead of Enclave vs BoS. My guess is, Bethesda went with Enclave vs BoS so that we’d have an excuse for obtaining Power Armor and the requisite training. Exactly like a fan homage would.

I gotta say the 1950's aesthetic is one of my favorite aspects of the game. It makes sense. At that time in American culture things were going perfectly because of the discovery of nuclear energy being used in day to day life and things were plentiful. There was no adversity so there was no reason for the culture to evolve and by the time adversity did happen, I guess there was no Bob Dylan's or what not, there was no thought given to changing the American way because it was more important now then ever to remain as we are and keep our values and slice of Americana. That's how I interpreted the game anyway and I enjoyed it very much.

Fallout 3 has some issues but so does every Fallout game. I think it is certainly a "real" Fallout game and reflects the older games very well especially when compared to 4.

I really don't understand the whole "Bethesda thinks Fallout is set in the 50s and not the 50s interpretation of the future" thing. Like how isn't it 50s futurism? Those aren't 50s vehicles littering the streets, they're nuclear powered automobiles, most of them based on concept designs from the 50s which were literally designed to look futuristic. It's a world filled with robots, laser weapons, power armour and enough nuclear reactors to power the sun and its all themed around a 50s aesthetic. I agree with pretty much everything else, but I really don't understand this criticism.

Around 2012, I was given a pirated copy of FO3 and FONV. The copy of FO3 didn't work and I still wonder what would happened if FO3 was my first Fallout.

I liked fallout 3 for the fact that it’s fallout. For a lot of people this was their introduction to the series, myself included. And I fell in love with the picture of you he world they’d created. Maybe their interpretation of the original 2d game from the 90’s isn’t flawless... but it’s fallout dammit.

11:05 when you mention children of atom, i think of the mad monks in Wasteland 2 and how they used themselves as bombs for protecting caravans, being so maniacal that they would blow themselves up thinking they would become one with the bomb. Fascinating aspect and would've wished bethesda tried something similar, especially if they wanted to keep recreate that bleak tone from f1 :)

I like to imagine the reason caps are used as currency on the east coast is because there WAS no currency for a fat minute, but in one way or another (possibly BoS) they learned of the currency used on the west coast without understanding WHY it was used.

Funny enough, i am born on the very same day Fallout 1 was released. It's one of the best game i ever played.

Your channel is such an amazing find, thank you for such great content revolving around one of the most interesting franchises

Interesting take on FO3. I started the series with this game and enjoyed it. I was never into games like this up to this point. When NV got announced I pre-ordered it and wasn't disappointed. I had hated that you couldn't kill who you wanted in FO3 and that the story was trash, but the exploration sold me. In New Vegas the ante was upped and I to this day can't go back to FO3 because I keep remembering how linear it was. It was still fun at the time though, but I had never known the reasons why bottle caps were currency or why deathclaws were in DC. I just went with it back then.

Hope i live long enough to see the day where i wake up, open youtube and 1st thing i see is * Fallout 3 Remastered Official Trailer *

Its so weird seeing all of the old school Fallout fans come out of the woodwork when they seemingly didn't exist before. Not saying that's a bad thing, just an interesting observation. In any case, hate of Fallout 76, hate Fallout 4, hate Fallout 3, fine. I understand a beloved series getting appropriated by a company that doesn't understand it. Its fine to have such opinions if you have been fans of the classic games. But the odd turn around on anything Bethesda has ever made, even going so far as to tear apart well established classics they made from scratch is simply way too much. Bethesda has always had their problems, bugs, some half baked ideas. But acting like they failed at everything they ever made, including the Elder Scrolls series (with games like Oblivion and Morrowind) was completely awful because 76 was awful is a completely backpedaling circlejerk. Its almost like I have to preface every time I mention I loved Oblivion "yes I know the bugs", "yes the characters are ugly", "Morrowinds was more unique and cool and...."whatever. Oblivion had great quests, fun game play and exploration, am I supposed to pretend I hated playing it because hating all things Bethesda is in vogue now? Its like with the new Star Wars movies. I really didn't like them. But do I now hate all Disney Star Wars products, including the really good Mandalorian, or hate all original Disney movies like Little Mermaid and Hercules that have nothing to do with Star Wars because Disney as a company now is pretty shitty? As with all things, it isn't black and white. Bethesda is not the devil incarnate as a company, and they actually have done good things before, and a really bad game like 76 doesn't invalidate all of the good games they made prior. And one last thing, unlike Star Wars and Disney, Fallout may literally have died as a franchise without Bethesda, no one would be talking about it to nearly the same extent, and Obsidian would never had a chance to make New Vegas. It was Bethesda that gave them the stepping stone, the engine and the hype from Fallout 3 that elevated New Vegas to a level that Black Isles original Fallout 3 would never have reached. Maybe some of the classic game purists would have preferred Fallout be a niche and obscure fandom, and even preferred New Vegas never been made, and I really cannot respond to that, considering I'm not a classic fan, so its not my place, but whatever.

Not going to lie, your first reaction to Fallout 3 fit my own to a tee- even down to the location in which you learned it!

All I know is after fallout 76, Todd needs to have the next fallout be worked on for a minimum of 4 years. I’m willing to wait longer than that if it means redemption after what we got from fallout 76. We need a solid in depth story, better dialogue, more monsters etc. Todd and the team need to delve deep into the lore that is fallout.

"Exciting characters" I literally remember 1; the woman that wants to write a book or something like that, i don't even remeber the name. And i played this and New Vegas the past year, but i can easily recognize nearly every character of the last one. Fallout 3 has damn forgettable characters.

You deserve so many more subscribers because everything you make is pure quality. Thank you for everything you create.

Thanks for this I love these videos. Fallout & Fallout 2 will always be my favourite games of all time.

Bethesda's involvement with the franchise is a double edged sword. On the one hand it put the franchise into the public eye and brought so many new fans on board including myself. On the other hand Bethesda seems to be more interested in making the series more casual and focusing on the iconic elements of Fallout's world rather than telling new and interesting stories in the universe.

Given the time differences between the games, it's easy enough to explain away discrepancies between them in terms of the status quo. Decades can make quite the difference.

Fallout 3 is the only after game that captured that sketchy and scary theme of the op games. Actually looks like the same world. And the theme of the og games they got right also. It’s a little dumbed down but it is still quality content and i always discover new things while playing it, even ten years later

I know I’m a little late, but very interesting video indeed. I don’t want to say I agree entirely, but very interesting for sure. I think to classify something the difference between fan or not fan game, as someone who may or may not enjoy their 9 to 5 is slightly strange to me I guess. But I did enjoy this video, very good and different take

Looking at The Pitt DLC I think you can get a glimpse of what Fallout 3 could have been if Bethesda didn't just copy Fallout 1&2 to Washington DC. A unique environment with unique enemies based on what creatures would have lived in that area before 2077.

No matter how bad a fallout game is the modding community can fix it.

All this time and I had no idea Todd grew up down the street from me...

Back before Fallout 4 came out, I loved Vegas more than 3 and still really liked 3, while everyone bashed vegas and praised 3 like holy god. Now its the opposite, fans praise vegas and shit on 3.

Granted the opening segment of Fallout 2 alludes to American society of that world being based of 1950s futurism

Very eloquently put. Fallout 3 was the first Fallout game I played (and actually the second RPG I played, with Skyrim being the first) and I LOVED it at the time. I can see in hindsight now why objectively, it could have been much better. But no amount of criticism of the game will change the fact that I loved playing it and still do, even 12 years later. I really appreciate your definition of it as a fan game.

I need to finish fallout 3, I have like 200 hours on new Vegas and about 800 on fallout 4. Fallout 3 seems good I just need the time to play now.

I remember when I first saw this game on that Xbox show with that girl that gave tips. Something about shooting a guy in the face to get his shot gun and I knew I had to have it....I still haven’t done that now that I think of it....

I don't know if you watched Never Knows Bests video on Fallout where he says Fallout 3 copied what people liked about the og fallouts without understanding its essence, in fact, the best parts of it might be the places where the creators actually tried to innovate.

In honesty. I agree. i see issues all over Fallout 3. Though besides lore and bugs, lack of RPG, and so forth, we ultimately all gave Bethesda a wright off for being their first-ever Consol-able game. so it was seen to have some limitations. We all understood. their 'Fan-made' Fallout is also what kinda ruined the series going forward. Fallout 3 was the revival of the Fallout series and Bethesda didnt know how it would go, especially with all the cutbacks on things i have stated from above... So, why didnt Bethesda just call it something like Fallout: Capital. or Fallout: Revival. something that would not hold that 'official' Fallout title until they where comfortable? If Fallout: Capital did well. then what is Fallout 4 today could have been Fallout 3, and doing this im sure Bethesda would have doubled down to make it the best 'Official' Fallout they could have made it... rather then being the barrel of Nuclear Sludge eating at its own container, that it is.

This is off topic but the only thing I liked about fallout 76 was the fact that Bethesda focused on west Virginia's falklore and I would like Bethesda to continue to do something similar to make all of their fallout games look different and more interesting Or they could just give the fallout franchise back to obsidian I wouldn't mind that either, I wish they could cooperate with obsidian on a new fallout game like they did with my favourite fallout game Fallout New Vegas that would be pretty cool.

Your father left you in a bunker full of people wanting to kill you, and after you go after him throughout the whole nuclear wasteland of DC he immidiatly "asks" you to clear a building full of supermutants, while judging your choices Top kek Fallout 3 was trash

To be fair, "Oblivion with guns" is actually the best review of Fallout 3 I have ever heard.

My one problem with the fallout fan base is that they seem to ruin each game for themselves because it wasn’t a perfect sequel of the previous game, with fallout 3 being the first fallout I ever played, I absolutely loved it, the atmosphere, the factions, and new Vegas was just as good, though the Mojave wasn’t my favorite setting because it didn’t have the same bleak atmosphere as fallout 3 but had much better gun mechanics, fallout 4 improved on what new Vegas did, but lost some of the dialogue system in the process, which I think is a shame, but I still enjoy it a lot because of the amazing gunplay and graphics, I don’t think each fallout has to be the “perfect sequel” I like that each iteration brings something new and fresh to the series and even though they aren’t as rpg heavy today, I think the moment to moment gameplay is leagues above the accuracy mess of fallout 3 and a lot of the random wandering and combat is better

You are a gentleman and a scholar, but unlike you I am not so hesitant to call Bethesda on their BS. The best thing they could have do e with the Fallout IP is give it to someone else. I agree with the lady at GameStop. And I also think that Modders are the only reason Bethesda games don't suck, ALL their games are trash until Modders (the real heros of Bethesda story) get their hands on whatever Bethesda makes. I love your channel by the way, it took to long to find it! 😁

I liked that faction that appeared in Tactics, The Reavers, a ravaged cyberpunk faction that rivals with the BOS, why no one has revisited? Is a very interesting faction.

5:54 "...so no head?"

9:00 fair enough, but in the original fallout (starting cinematic) they show an actual old 50s tv. Not a "futuristic 50s tv", but an old block of wood with a screen on it.

Fallout 3 for me was the title that introduced me to the series. Whether that's a good or bad thing is up to you, but I still hold this game in high regard as one of my favorites from the xbox 360 years of my life...though New Vegas is up there as well so DON'T @ ME!

tbh the creatures part is completely fine, though I wish they would add more challenging creatures, the setting in 3 is about 100 years after the first fallout and were just gonna pretend migration isnt real? like it actually makes perfect sense that creatures like that can reproduce and grow their population across the country, its not like theres anything that can stop them. Though the brotherhood and enclave can fuck off

Same the guy at GameStop told me ‘oblivion with guns and a nuclear apocalypse’ I literally said ‘sold’ and bought it right then and there. The first time I stepped out of the vault is truly a feeling I cherish to this day.

Fallout 3 was not only my first fallout game but it was my first game, I love fallout 3!

As a Pennsylvanian who actually lives near Emmaus (Bethlehem is better anyways) I sincerely apologize on behalf of all Pennsylvanians for Todd

I’m glad you gave the game a fair chance, most people enjoyed it before NV came out. Thanks for the video!

Bethesda tried to begin again the franchise... without knowing when to let go of the old game atmosphere. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked very well.

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I remember before Fallout3 came out reading a review and thinking yeah I probably won't like it. Tried it anyways and now Fallout is my favorite game series.

Now i wwant to see how you would make fallout 3 story with your on flare

great vid man I've never played fallout 1 and 2 probably because I grew up after Bethesda acquired the fallout franchise and I played fallout 3 when I turned 10 years old and I was so damn impressed I mean I loved it than I played fallout New Vegas and in that moment I stopped playing every other game for 4 years never player another but after fallout 76 I began to play others like ELDERSCROLLS and MineCraft.

You’re probably one of the most redpilled fallout fans. I rant about this stuff all the time.

Wish I could play Fo3 again. My laptop runs new Vegas but wont run fo3. New Vegas is my favorite anyway but fo3 was the first one I've played. I was so hooked back in the day

The one thing I loved about fallout 3 was the atmosphere apart from that everything else was meh

I still enjoy Fallout 3 far more than Fallout 4. Fallout 3 felt like a good start, New Vegas was a finer polish. Fallout 4 felt like it lost what made both good in exchange for more fps elements.

You know what, this is absolutely correct

Played 3 first....can't go back to it after 1, 2 and New Vegas.

Fallout 3 and Bethesda revitalised the franchise but a lot of things had to be sacrificed to achieve this, I feel like too much was sacrificed. I played F3 but never could get into it. F4 made me even sadder. Shooting nukes out of the fatman should be fun, but Fallout shouldn't be fun.

Fallout 3 to me is more like a theme park than a singular cohesive world.

I rented fallout 3 from a blockbuster. Changed my life.

I actually liked the different take on the Brotherhood in Fallout 3. I think I'd keep them in the game, but instead of being the main faction you side with for Project Purity, they could be in a side quest where you help a Renegade Brotherhood of Steel chapter take over Raven Rock, which used to be an Enclave base before they all moved out west, but it is now controlled by Raiders or something. Perhaps this Brotherhood has goals that align a bit more with the original BoS, but they are willing to take on new members because of how stranded they are.

Had a hard time liking fallout 3 in the beginning. Got a while I thought it was boring. Had to force myself to get through it but ty the end I liked it. I hate Skyrim, though.

To be fair I think Bethesda really hit it home with the institute and railroad. You get the teases in 3, and then in 4 you see the power (or lack there of) of both factions.

Unpopular opinion but personally I think that Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas. I primarily think this because Fallout 3 executes the whole wasteland atmosphere better than Fallout New Vegas. When you take a look at Fallout 3, it's gloomy and soulless- you feel a sense of dread and hopelessness- which makes finding settlements and characters so much more captivating. Personally I loved traversing the old subway tunnels, dark and intimidating- always giving me a scare when I would run across a trap or a ghoul. To me, New Vegas is not post-apocalyptic, but post-post apocalyptic with too much emphasis on the cowboy theme.

Holy crap man, just wanna say big ups to you your quality on these videos. I learned about your channel because of the whole drama last year, really glad i subbed when i did.

Are we gonna talk about this thicc as hell mantis 14:00

I still prefer 3 over 1,2,4,nv and 76 🤷‍♂️

Incorrect.... Fallout 1 and 2 are the best. Signed, OG Fallout Fanbase