That would be nice, but its confirmed the world has crumbled. The pre war world is gone. The only countries that wouldn't have been bombed were most likely small african countries. Seeing how radio chatter is pretty dead.
Tenpenny coming to the U.S. from the U.K. actually tells us that Post War U.K. had the ability to send ships across the Atlantic, which says a lot about their progress. Most of the other boats only go a pretty short distance along the New England coast.
Possibly the technology is comparable to Elizabethan-Era and Industrial Europe combined, but with more futuristic/modern weapons. The United Kingdom must be divided into different territories similar to Anglo-Saxon Britain and parts of America such as, the New California Republic, Caesar's territory or Brotherhood controlled DC. Etc.
And who knows, maybe he went to the US to make his fortune cause there were no laws, making it easier to get his way. If it wasn't for the player's existence he'd be untouchable, one mercenary and those ghouls would've been dealt with. Also, Cait said her parents sold her to slavers, by putting a color around her neck, which is something we only see in the US, and Ireland has next to no resources so we wouldn't have been actively nuked.
Well in Fallout 2, the Chosen One got a pre-war oil tanker in San Fransisco up and running well enough to take out the Enclave base on an oil rig somewhere off the West Coast. In the original, uncut plan for the game, you were also able to fly there, either with a Vertibird from Navarro outpost, or with the Hubologist space ship sitting inside their Frisco base. So, I don't know. It's probably not that much of an insurmountable task to be able to sail or fly over the oceans of the world in Fallout post-apocalyptia, if you've got the right know-how. Most people are probably just too lazy, complacent, or otherwise uninterested to do it.
Just because he came for opportunities doesn't mean it's in bad shape in a destruction sense. It could be the opposite. Like the wild west people getting out of the cities to start afresh. Personally I'd love for a UK with several enclave type factions recreating the English Civil War. With the Royalists a feudal like faction led by the goulified (but it's not known) king. The Parliamentarians however are a fascist state very much like the enclave. Other factions would be Welsh Tribal raiders, the Yorkshire Miners Soviet, Irish Radiation Alliance (IRA), Glaswegian Empire of New Scotland and the Followers of the glowing henge.
What if they made a Fallout game in Alaska? Maybe no nukes went off nearby, so we could get snowy environments along with Anchorage. Maybe we could go into Canada too, since it got annexed.
They did, it's called '"Operation Anchorage". And no, a full game for it would be stupid. First off, other than Anchorage nothing much happened there. Second, fuck Canada. Thirdly, I'd much rather somewhere more interesting like Chicago or fuck it I don't know anywhere that isn't fucking Canada.
I meant that there would be such a high amount form all of the bombs that were dropped worldwide that the wind would easily spread it everywhere. Look at Chernobyl for example, the radiation from the accident was detected in the UK. That is nothing compared to what would have been released during the war.
That's highly doubtful. "The radiation from the accident" was detected in the relative area, radiation could've been detected in the UK but not necessarily from the accident. If Radiation really did travel like that we'd all be poised between Chernobyl and Fukushima(and a couple of others that were quietly swept under the rug). The thing is, even the idea of the US being a radioactive wasteland isn't correct as, while looking all nice and end-of-the-world'y you only need to look at the area surrounding Chernobyl to see how quickly life can restore itself...even if somewhat mutated(*cough* the red forest *cough*). Hell, if anything, life has been thriving in the area surrounding the NPP simply because it's inhospitable to humans. Plus, who except America would nuke Canada? I mean really they're not even a nuclear power and, as such, the effect of the war would be less severe on them.
@Traitor Guardsman why does everybody think that fallout is some kind of magical thing that can travel unlimited distances and kill you from the other side of the planet? Unless you are within 30 to 50 miles of a detonation you would not be exposed to anywhere near enough radiation to cause any ill effects, and that's just for the big ones. Most nuclear weapons you can be much closer to and be perfectly safe. No, what kills most people in a nuclear war is the destruction of infrastructure. If you live in a rural area or a suburb and there is a nuclear war tomorrow you would probably be just fine unless you happen to live right next to a military base. if you managed to avoid starving then you could probably easily survive 5 or 10 years, until you die from an infected tooth or something stupid like that.
Because we know for a fact that in the fallout lore, that the bombs used in the war were used specifically to do massive damage from fallout and radiation
Imagine a small fallout game about Switzerland few years after the great war, they never got hit becuse of theirs neutrality policies, so the game would take place in times when Switzerland tries to clean up the radiation, stabilize the society and colonize southern Germany
Егор Грибенюк yes u guys got nuked by USA in WW3 USA won thats why u are are the Russian Federation and not Soviet Union WW3 started in 1969 and ended in 1991 with Russia losing
Well here's what's happened to them: Spain: Paella eating ghouls trying to train brahmin for bullfighting France: Champaign drinking ghouls with a strong affinity for romance. Italy: Well-dressed ghoul mafiosi, still stuck in traffic after 200 years. Germany: Pretzel eating ghouls that love to play with nuclear powered RC cars and miniature railroads. Netherlands: Aquatic ghouls living in underwater camping trailers, smoking weed nontheless. Israel: Rich bagel eating ghouls, wishing Preston Garvey came over and helped them with their settlements. Austria: Angry supermutants on skis, threatening to eat Garvey should he pass their territory. England: Rugby playing ghouls, annoyed by their neighbours' mininukes ruining their lawn. Wales: Rugby playing ghouls, annoyed by their neighbours' mininukes ruining their lawn, and speaking weirdd Englysh. Scotland: Ghouls in skirts being unhappy, because with their ruined lungs, they can't play the bagpipes no more. Sweden: Radstag Köttbullar eating ghouls trying to figure out how to assemble that prefab shack. Finland: Ghouls with smoother than usual skin, thanks to the sauna. Soviet Union: Vodka drinking ghouls with horrible driving skills watching Yao-Guais dance. Ireland: Gwinnett-drinking ghouls having regular sexual intercourse with brahmin. Switzerland: Humans wondering why there haven't been foreign tourists other than ghouls lately. The Vatican: Latin speaking ghvlii who declared each other holy. Greece: Celebrating ghouls being happy because the bombs dropped before the tax collector came. Belgium: Patriotic ghouls celebrating in unity, now both the French and Dutch are no more. Luxemburg: Ghouls selling cheap fusion cores and tobacco to Germans. Andorra: (unknown) Monaco: Never got nuked and doing splendid. Serving as an Enclave headquarter. Hungary: Supermutants enjoying delicious fresh ghoulash. Ghoulash, get it? Denmark: Small communities trading Lego bricks instead of bottlecaps. Norway and Iceland: Ghouls which the cold has turned into a different lifeform known as draugrs. Australia: Ghouls boxing against RADgaroos at the Combat Zone counterpart in RADney Japan: Ghouls singing karaoke about how war really never changes. North Korea: (censored) South Korea: Ghouls in a legal dispute with the Institute over technology patents. Kenya: Pretty much unexplored due to the world's fastest running ghouls. Egypt: Ghouls preferring regular bandages over Stimpaks in an attempt to look like Ramses himself. New Zealand: Ghouls thinking they have turned into orcs. Canada: Overly polite ghouls on the way to being the next superpower, thanks to their pommel throwing skills.
except new amsterdam is the old name for new york so more like feral hipsters and machine-gun toting NYPD in military armour..... much like today I guess
Judging on the view from mothership zeta, the whole earths atmosphere has sort of a green haze gave me the impression like its all fucked. Maybe its the games notorious green filter, maybe its just the timeline F3 is in..
Because nuclear winter will envelop the world fallout from the bombs will effect earth even places that didn't get hit will still be irradiated over time
Europe: *screams in radiation poisoning* WHY IS EVERYTHING ON FIRE?! Russia: *shrugs, walks around and visits chernobyl* the Great War was not that bad compared to chernobyl USA: *walks outside to see a raider being eaten by a feral ghoul being eaten by a super mutant being eaten by a yao gui* everything is fine nothing to worry about.
@@sinux8438 i understand that but the loading screen literally says "UN disbanded" wich means no more United Nations that means no more NATO. You should think before you type. no offense ment
they still would get a ton of radiation by sea and air. but still its not as bad as everywhere else you would think that they are so far developed right now that they started to move out and settle in other lands.
i'd hope they'd save something like that for a game with a lot of npc's for lore and such. Plus i'd want them to take their time making it since it could be a pretty big game. Since we just had fallout 4,76 makes since as a spinoff.
South America and, especially, Africa were mostly likely not bombed (very heavily) because they didn’t pose a very big nuclear threat. I’d imagine that the only places in these regions that would’ve been attacked would’ve been large cities all across the globe. Mainland Asia, however, would’ve devastated considering that China borders most of the mainland Asian countries and was bombed heavily. The Asian islands would’ve been slightly better off, but not by much because most of their water would be heavily irradiated, and the same would probably go for Australia/New Zealand.
@@connerb9593 Africa would have been bombed to hell by America because atleast in our timeline, the Chinese are establishing relations with Africa and by 2077, they would have most likely been aligned to almost all of Africa. South America would be weird. Venezuela would have been dead due to it's oil supply and Brazil would be dead too due to it's relations to both Russia and the Chinese. No place would be safe, nuked or not. The Places not nuked would need to get their resources and food independently which is impossible in the modern world because of how trading is so important, but you can't do that because every place with resources would be nuked so the nations would collapse, only nations I could see surviving on their own would be the Pacific Islands but even then because of the Great Winter of 2130.
There was going to be a fallout game that started in Alaska, go through Russia, and enter China to destroy a new enclave like faction in China made from the remnants of the Chinese army. It was called fallout extreme.
Actually the game started in mainland America then you went up through Canada before getting to Alaska. I would have loved to see Canada in a Fallout game but something tells me its a good thing that game wasn't made. From what I've heard although the game had an excellent concept the team behind the game and the execution in making it were pretty terrible. The end result would have been something similar to Fallout Brotherhood of steel.
VinylicPumaGaming so I was thinking what happened to Cuba, Africa or Puerto Rico did it nuke and if you could make a theory about Cuba, Africa and Puerto Rico being the only place left with non radiated people
Pablito123 because oil remains a cheaper alternative (at least in the fallout world) to simply using uranium everywhere, also the technology at the time was still heavily reliant on oil, though to a lesser extent than the modern day due to advancements in atomic energy production, but still, the fact remains that *all* forms of energy were scarce in the fallout world, including uranium, so every source of energy was highly valued to the extent of justifying total war for their sake.
Dangerosu Now we can. But technology in the Fallout universe diverged from ours in the 50s, and focused more on nuclear power and genetics than recycling and preservation.
Jason Brown Jason Brown they could start off in like worker jumpsuits or something Or do something like doc mitchel finding you in new Vegas and have someone give it to you and say it washed ashore or something
metro is far more depressing that fallout , but yes its a good idea. ( Why are the the ruskies so good at creating depressing settings in there media?). Fallout London would be amazing.
I always like to think of the other countries in Fallout universe are just represented by other games, like Russia probably like the Metro games, Mad Max is what Australia would be like, etc.
The real sticking point to this theory is exactly what previous comments mentioned - there are many sequences in both Metro games where you see modern technological improvements that would've only come about if the timelines didn't split with the creation of the transistor. Beyond this though, it wouldn't be hard to fit the two. Nuclear war broke out between the European Commonwealth and the Middle East decades before the Great War, it could stand to reason that the same thing happened between Russia and, well, take your pick of any number of surrounding states that would've been dependent on access to their most precious commodity: oil. It would make perfect sense that at the turn of the century, say around 2013, rising prices of oil would've created a conflict between Russia and another state, or a coalition of states, that would've ended with a nuclear exchange just like what happened in the Fallout universe in 2054, but would've probably spared Russia the worst of the Great War since by 2077 their reserves would most definitely have run dry and its wars long since abandoned, what with having to cope with an economic recession, domestic imbalance; the Soviet Union, or at the least Russia itself, would be an outlier with little cause for someone else to target them for total atomic annihilation. Unless both China and the United States ran out of fucks to give and said, "if we're both gonna to die from this, might as well bring everyone else along".
Fail Lord not the locations fault it's Bethesdas lazy writers and designer's, look at the other fallout games each one drastically diffrent from one another adding unique factions and enimies.
Rex Fuck that noise. The idea of crossing an irradiated ocean and dealing with pirates and mutant stuff from the water is too freaky for me. I can fight Mirelurks and Deathclaws and face down an entire Gunner army with a rifle only, but I'm not fighting no fucking mutant shark or seaborn raider pirates.
Lunar Sight I did like far harbor but seeing some of the creatures from that dlc would make me scared as shit to cross the ocean, right now I just want fallout to return to the west coast but Bethesda only does east coast. The lore is so much more interesting over there
Some questions and comments: 1. Do we actually know who and where was nuked? My impression was (though I admit I read the stuff a while ago) was that the Great War was just the USA (with conquered Canada vs China) and so they were the primary targets. Do we even know if the Soviet Union or the European Commonwealth or any other part of the world was even hit? Presumably the rest of the world is in quite bad shape as we don't see Soviet, European, Indian, Brazilian or anything else show up, so they can't have been on pre-war levels where they could intervene in the wasteland. But if they weren't nuked then even with civil war they can't be as bad as the situation in the US. 2. It's probably a safe bet to think of the Warsaw Pact still existing and so the European Commonwealth as being more similar to the EU pre-1990 based on the Cold War style setting. But do we know for certain that NATO still existed in the Resource Wars? If so why did the US not get involved in the Middle East or why isn't the European Commonwealth mentioned in the war with China? I admit I read about this ages ago, but my impression was that they drifted apart, like China and the USSR. 3. What's with the accents and supposed immigration? How does Cait have an Irish accent? There's no indication that she came all the way across the Atlantic, so even if her family's origin is Irish before the Great War, how could she possibly have an Irish accent from probably living in the Commonwealth for all her life? This far after the bombs fell there would be fewer accents and likely next to no immigration into the hellscape of post-apocalyptic America. Also Ireland is a neutral and relatively rural country, it's far more likely to be in a better condition than the US. In fact, I would argue that accents are included more in the games to add variety and shouldn't be considered canon in many cases unless there is context. There is no context to Cait, it seems just a choice to add flavour unlike pre-war Chinese ghouls for example. 4. Natalia Dubrovhsky's grandfather getting a spot in a vault in the US doesn't say anything about the USSR having or not having a system of vaults. He was a diplomat stationed abroad, it's normal he would look for a vault near where he lived and worked. It's likely that China, the USSR and the European Commonwealth had some kind of vault equivalent, maybe not on the same scale as Vault-Tec though. I for one would love to see a Fallout game take place in Europe, Russia or China.
To me, only Western and Northern Europe are constitute republics of the EC, mainly the 6 original members of the European Union and the European Coal and Steal Community. The Members would be West Germany, Italy, France, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Belgium, the UK, and possibly Ireland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Greece, Turkey, and Iceland.
Europe fell into chaos long before America and China in fallout lore. As well as having small nuclear wars. The end of the world is confirmed when America and China nuked the world.
Aside accepting Nazi's money and letting Nazi's deportation trains. Whatever happens, Switzerland will always be happy to welcome all the dirtiest and blood-taint money of murderer of the world, while all acting like being the neutral good-guy of course. So sweet "neutral" Switzerland
There's actually a few interesting possibilities regarding the fate of the post-war USSR if one looks at some details of the real-world Russian Federation: 1) irl, Moscow is the only city in the world (to my knowledge) that has a dedicated anti-ballistic missile defense system, much like the one that Las Vegas had in Fallout's canon. This means that there's a possibility that at least a significant portion of Moscow might've remained in-tact even after the bombs fell, with landmarks such as Red Square, the Kremlin, and St. Basil's Basilica still being easily recognizable (if in a state of disrepair due to neglect). Granted, it probably wouldn't be as vibrant as New Vegas without somebody like Robert House around to fix things up after the war. Speaking of Moscow... 2) Moscow's metro system was designed with providing shelter in mind (as portrayed in the Metro series), so it's entirely possible that they had their own equivalent to Project Safehouse, at least in major cities or strategically important locations like Moscow, Leningrad (St. Petersburg irl), Volgograd, Kaliningrad, Vladivostok etc.. It should also be noted that the vast majority of Russian infrastructure is concentrated in the western regions irl, as opposed to...say, Siberia, so it's entirely possible that some areas of Eastern Russia were barely affected by the initial bombings (the fallout, on the other hand...). 3) Russia is also notable for being (again, as far as I know) the only country to be crazy enough to develop and deploy a fail-deadly nuclear deterrent capable of launching their nuclear arsenal even after a decapitation strike, codenamed "Perimetr" (aka "Dead Hand" in the West). The system came online in the late 1980s, but considering that by the time of the Great War, proper artificial intelligence had been developed, it's entirely possible that Perimetr would've been far more sophisticated by 2077 than it is now (in the present, it's allegedly a semi-automatic system that does little more than relay instructions to various missile bases, airfields, and submarines in the event of nuclear war - almost nothing is known about it for certain), so perhaps in Fallout's canon it would more closely resemble the Calculator from Fallout Tactics or even John Henry Eden from Fallout 3 (or the Base Cochise AI from Wasteland), and it could make for an interesting antagonist for a Fallout game set in the post-war USSR.
This has to do a lot with how the Soviet Union is treated in Fallout lore, which ranges from strange to just outlandish, much like most of Fallout. Somehow for instance, China was the big bad in the Cold War instead of the Soviet Union. Makes really no sense even with the divergence (Mao was a big personality even before the 1945 divergence) Also, the fact that various cities and what not may have survived depends entirely on whether the 1972 ABM treaty is passed. The ABM treaty got rid of the Nike Missiles in the US, and the ABM-1s were repurposed in the Soviet Union.
+OrientTester02 Originally I planned to make videos of this sort, but due to irl obligations constantly getting in the way, I just never got around to making content. +SaturnVII Be that as it may, while there was a divergence in Fallout's timeline, that doesn't rule out the possibility of the USSR being at odds with the US at some point during the 20th Century (whereas by the time of the Great War, relations had improved enough between the US and USSR that even things like GUNS could be traded between them - the assault rifle in the first Fallout was a Soviet-made weapon called the AK-112). Even with relations improving with the US, however, China and the USSR had a falling out in the 60s, which culminated in the brief Sino-Soviet Border Conflict in 1969. It's possible that a Soviet missile defense system in Fallout's canon would've been designed as much with Chinese nukes in mind as it would've been to defend from an American attack.
23r0 Gaming Dead Hand project is "dead" all Dead Hand warhead have been disassembled or decommissioned but considering its fallout,everything could happen besides,Dead Hand is supposedly to be used when the enemy invaded Moscow Note the word "Invaded",there will be no reason to activate Dead Hand if the world went full nuclear but then again,its Fallout You will not know wtf are they doing
I like to believe that, due to the lack of firearms due to European countries laws against them, there are raiders somewhere in Europe fighting with swords and trebuchets. I also like to believe that they went to a feudal-like society with lords, kings, peasants, and serfs.
Nicolas Jaramillo Is like to see some monarch factions if they ever set a Fallout in the UK. Also Spain and Italy were still fascist, and in the Fallout tradition they probably kept they 50's political stance up until 2077.
jeez europe is strict enough with guns but we're not that bad. there's a local gun shop in my town. granted only rifles and shotguns but you'll still get the job done
I don't think that is the case. Europe was in a large civil war its very likely that they where making so much war stuff (I.E guns, bombs etc) that these gun laws where loosened, or a none factor after the bombs fell. although there is a high probability of there being a feudal society.
I think it would be hilarious if in the past 200 years the entire continent of Africa south of the Sahara and Australia formed a single nation that experienced a technological renaissance, but decided to cut off all contact with the rest of the world and leave the nations who caused all the problems to lay in shambles.
I am here from the future, instead of interesting new characters, we got a whole lot of nothing from Fallout 76 where there are no NPCs and no story. Thanks Bethesda.
My Name Is Pete, maybe there won’t be vaults. Isn’t Vault-Tec American. IDK but from probably a noob that that “Vyke Schofield” is, maybe he or her is right. There was never any lore that a Vault-Tec sold or made faults in places other than America. Wouldn’t that also show that Vault-Tec is a traitor? I’m not sure but I understand why Vyke Schofield thinks that.
There are plenty of firearms in Europe. Most are just locked away in bunkers somewhere. You're forgetting that during the cold war both sides produced enough weapons to arm every man, woman, child, and the family turtle three times over.
what about a game that takes place in Canada? the U.S vibe would still be there due to the fact that the U.S annexed Canada (fallout 3 loading screen) Maybe in Toronto or something. please respond I really need your opinion.
Tropicalninja360 Well, but would Canadian Culture have changed to allow the whole 50's Vibe? However I do know in real life that Canadians and Americans are culturally no to far apart. Again, maybe a Game taking place in Minneapolis than a DLC that allows you to go to Canada would make more sense.
Vancouver would be a nice setting since it's so close to Alaska so the army would have had soldiers stationed there to fight the Chinese at one point, giving it some good law. Also the rich variety in topography of the area would look beautiful in a fallout game and you could make the royal Canadian mountain police a faction and maybe bring the enclave back at an old American army base that could act as a fall back point to regroup after the past 3 fallout games.
by the Vault dwellers handbook that came with fallout 1 AND 2, both editions of the book state that mane land Europe is a quagmire or hot spots and rad zones caused by exchanges between European nations and drop outs and intercepted missiles from the intercontinental barrages fired by china at the US and USSR and there return voles. Note that by Fallout 2 lore China fired on the USSR devastating the eastern continent.but whey is never made clear. IN fallout 3 you can go to the hall of records and read thought the minuets of the last sessions of the government. from them its clear that the USA was levering there Fusion battery tec over the USSSR to make them curb China aggression. this clearly fails and cased china to feel betrayed and hence the attacks. . Also in fallout 2 hand book the background section indicates that warfare was a lot more mechanized than in the USA. While ROB'CO held the paitants for the MR Handy and others. German Robotic arms company where ruining rampant with robotic warrior. which where now on the lose. so while there would not be supper mutants to worry about there are giant mecha and .rad monsters.
So the df happened to Yugoslavia..... In the world maps in fallout it shows that's its broken up but....that only happened because of The end of the Soviet Union in 1991
@@Kubadaniels that happened along with Soviet collapse. Lithuania declared independence in march 1990. Slovenia declared independence in may 1991. We also need to consider that Josip Broz Tito, leader of Yugoslavia 1945-1980, despite being communist, maintained neutrality in cold war, so then Yugoslavia began to crumble, no one wanted to save them. In this alternate timeline, where Soviet Union, and, possibly, Warsaw pact, did not collapsed at the time of Yugoslav wars, Yugoslavia could've dropped neutrality to maintain itself and become another Soviet satellite. So, Yugoslavs and Soviets suppress Slovene rebellion, Soviets gain new satellite and new Warsaw pact member, and Yugoslavia still exists!
@@rangopistacho6928 Are you being serious? There are 50 States, all the Hawaii islands are one State of the 50 States. I'm from Canada and even I know this. There's 50 stars on your flag for each state.
The USSR will likely survive in some way or another. Now, Siberia is bound to end horribly. It has massive amounts of raw materials and oil which China will attempt to take advantage of, besides Yakutsk, Omsk, Tomsk, Tyumen and especially Vladivostok, the main base of the Far Eastern fleet, are bound to be nuked. Central Asia will probably meet a similar end, but the European parts of the country may survive in one way or another due to their massive metro networks meant to also act as nuclear shelters. It's probably going to look like Metro 203x for some time, before a reformed Soviet government, perhaps even from the Moscow metro, ends up swallowing everything west of the Urals and probably areas of Kazakhstan. Tajiks may survive, their country was far too irrelevant, and Uzbeks may regress to past equestrian lifestyles. The Caucasus is probably going to look horrible, perhaps Georgians, Armenians and local Turks are going to be extinct. Nuclear attacks on Tbilisi, Yerevan and Baku will spread fallout very quickly over a small territory and, if someone's cruel enough, bombing the dams of Mingachevir and Shamkir will result in the flooding of most of the land between the Caspian and the Armenian highland, turning into an empty swamp. Japan is too overpopulated on an area far too small, which means that if it's going to be nuked, the Japanese as a people will be history. China is going to meet a horrible fate. Most of the population is concentrated along the coast, cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Tianjin, Hong Kong etc are just too important targets to ignore, besides the homeland itself was ravaged by a US American invasion force stationed along the Yellow River by the time of the Great War. The regions that are likely to survive are the inner ones, like Gansu, Qinghai, Sichuan, Xinjiang, Xizang, etc. The chances of Tibetan or Karluk states are low, considering that by 2077 the regions will likely have an important Han Chinese majority. I don't know how viable survivor states will be there, but what is certain is that, with the focus of Chinese civilization significantly moved west, China will be extensively more Muslim, considering the large Muslim minorities there (Huis, Salars, Dongxiangs, some Tibetans and certain loyal groups among the Karluks). Australia, with much of its population concentrated along the coast, is toast. The inner desert is not a viable refuge from atomic bombings, I think that it will end far worse than in Mad Max. Africa and the Middle East will have destroyed themselves by the time of the Great War due to European neocolonialism and tribal infighting. Nuking Istanbul, Izmir and Ankara will result in the dissolution of the Turkish government and in a civil war in the country which may last some decades. Greek refugee groups crossing the Aegean may take advantage of this by estabilishing communities in the Troad, but I don't know how long they'll last before the Turks are unified and are forced to deal with it. Maybe they'll just coopt them, or maybe they'll turn into the Greeks into a people approaching extinction. Italy will be interesting. Now, the north is a small area but it is very industrialized, you cannot possibly not nuke at least Turin, Milan, Genoa and Bologna. If there's going to be decent-sized survivor communities, it'll be in Veneto, mainly in the swamps located there. Still, a small population and isolation from the world will mean that the region will end up looking like a massive Point Lookout. Moving south, Rome, Naples, Taranto and at least a couple of areas in Sicily (most certainly Palermo and Sigonella AFB) will be nuked, but if people flee quickly enough to the mountains (maybe some did before the war. Maybe some saw it coming in the early 2070s or during the Resource Wars), they'll be well-screened from the radiation. There's probably going to be food shortages at first but since the Appennines and the Sicilian interior make for good grazing land, we'll likely see a civilization mainly resembling the ancient Italic peoples, so mostly goat herders with some farmers. Someone WILL end up LARPing as a Samnite, Benevento, Avellino, Molise and parts of Abruzzi have strong regional identities rooted in the ancient Samnites. If anything will survive along the coast, it'll be ruled by organized crime. Britain and Germany are toast. They're very industrialized areas, probably ravaged first by civil war and then by the nuking of their most important centers covering much, probably most of the territory. Adding insult to the injury, they have little to no agricultural base. The nukes will take care of most of the population, with attrition in the form of fallout and starvation taking care of the rest. The remnants of the British could turn into a civilization of nomadic pirates raiding the coasts of northern Europe, that'd be cool. Dunno about the rest. Hope I helped.
Canale con le cose belle very nice observation, I like how you take special notice to Italy, it's one of my most favorite country. I would also want to to know what happens to Spain and Greece since they are not very industrialized, but rather very cultural, I don't know how rich their soils are so I'm interested. Same goes to Iceland too
I dunno about Spain. Separatists could grab the chance but I'm really not sure. Greece is going to be in a tough situation. The Resource Wars in Europe WILL involve a bloody war with Jugoslavia over Thessaloniki, maybe with Albania as a co-belligerant or a third force, and that will certainly contribute to the social and economic collapse of Greece, greeks could emigrate en masse towards Turkey and Italy or even the US. When the nukes will fly, the logical targets are Athens with the Piraeus and Thessaloniki, Greece's two biggest cities. By then its military capabilities will be exhausted, which means that attacks on its military infrastructure could be spared. Still, you're going to get a lot of greeks, those who didn't emigrate, to flee to Turkey to reinforce the local immigrant presence. The most unlucky among the greeks will flee to the islands in the Aegean, where it's certainly going to feel cramped, and that could prompt them to turn them to piracy for sustenance, first regional, maybe even against each other, and then throughout the eastern Mediterranean, raiding whatever remains of civilization in the Near East, the scraps of mankind that survived both the war between Europe and the arab states and the nukes. Crete is going to be the most well-off of the islands due to its sheer size, it could even lead a coalition of greek survivor states. The least dorky will flee to the mountains of Thessaly and Pindus. What I'm not sure of is how sustainable this situation is on the long run, which is why I said that the greeks could approach extinction. Greece is a small country, nuclear fallout is going to make massive portions of the country unlivable. Honestly, even my idea that they could settle the Aegean is a bit stretched. Iceland is fairly isolated and unlikely to be hit by nukes. Its economy is stable enough and with some austerity and ersatz production it could even reach self-sufficiency. The presence of US Armed Forces stationed there (the US was responsible for Iceland's defense in the Cold War) could give her a huge military boost and could result on the long run in a vaguely anglicized culture. Some canadian, US american and even norwegian refugees could be allowed in, but Iceland's really just going to be unchanged from the war, which is what's going to turn her into a superpower in the Atlantic.
Canale con le cose belle I think the south of the UK (england) anf the north and east of germany (former GDR and the ruhr) would be toast since those areas are Strategicly important but I think people living in the hughlands of scotland would be safe as long they are in no major city like glasgow, wheras in germany people can survive in the mostly forrest covered areas like the saar or bavaria, I still would avoid areas like frankfurt or munich, I say the survivors in scotland will mostl likely after a couple of centuries push south into the northern areas of England and make contact with the survivors in scandinavia and would live off fish, whereas the surviving germans would roam the forests in the south and make contact with the austrians and french survivors who would most likely live bear the rhine or the danube.
Qeeb *ngm British Prasten Garvey. "Taly oh General, another Settlement needs our (I mean your) help! I will mark it on your map! (Good luck, I give you 3 minutes to live)"
Since the point of this video is pure speculation, let's use the background. Basically, what is the Fallout universe based upon? It's The World of Tomorrow, Astounding Stories, and other sci-fi of the 40s to early (or mid-) 60s, What does it tell us? That in order to maintain the style, you need to use the Soviet and Chinese sci-fi of the period. Now, I don't know what the Chinese, both Communist and Nationalist, have to offer in this respect, but as a Russian, I may assure you that there was a plethora of Soviet and Eastern bloc sci-fi writers who would not have outdone Clarke, Asimov or Heinlein. The most known source for fallout-esque inspiration would be Stanislaw Lem from Poland, I guess. But in Soviet Russia (pun not intended) of the 50s and 60s, there were: 1) the witty and ironic Ilya (eely-YAH) Varshavsky, whose stories were often based on the collision between humans and AI (usually humorous or ironic); 2) the earlier Strugatsky brothers, whose Land of Crimson Clouds is a romantic and heroic story of conquering the radioactive swamps of Venus; 3) the by and large forgotten Mikhail Pukhov and Semyon Slepynin who had been writing about desert planets and cyborgs years before it was a trend in the West. So, basically, the pre-war Soviets ought to be depicted the way we saw ourselves in the future plus Communist clichés and paraphernalia. But most importantly, what should be captured down there is this romantic mindset found in all those books. The mindset of conquering time and space and leading altruistic and neighbor-loving humanity to the new withering heights. Probably.
Ну, у китайцев в этот временной период в фантастике все очень печально: она есть, но очень чернушная и депрессивная. В качестве примера могу порекомендовать "Кошачий город" - на фоне остальной китайской чернухи он выглядит даже чуть-чуть оптимистично: "В будущем только жопа, но мизерный шанс на улучшение все же есть.")
@@The_Crimson_Fucker ACTUALLY, gulag is not that bad. You allowed to work only 12 hours and you even get paid ~150 roubles, while usual citizen get 300 and higher. Conditions is not that bad... Unless you are national enemy, serial killer or multi-million thief.
OsamaBinObama Synthetic oil has existed for almost a century (98 years to be specific). It would always be more profitable to just start producing synthetic oil than to go to war.
Whitefangmatt They had like over a century. IRL several countries have pased the 50% mark in renewable supply of energy, and that's been in the last 20 or so years that has been happening. Given over a century to switch to nuclear you'd have plenty of time to do so.
So RU-vid doesn't demonetize the video. They Blacklist words that are deemed "Offensive" so when a content creator uses them their video gets demonetized.
Spec of Dust That's pretty pathetic from RU-vid. The British government have just scolded them, Facebook and twitter for being absolutely incompetent when it comes to security and monitoring. They can't keep bad stuff off their websites and clearly can't handle monitoring. Maybe if they're forced to pay for policing they'll drop the petty token measures they have now.
I'd be interested in seeing how the relationships between all of the Soviet states ended up and all of their inner workings.I'm Lithuanian,so it's a topic that hits close to home
Oh cool mate, I am also Lithuanian and I don't think there is any reason to nuke the country so I think Lithuania still was in the Soviet Union so it probably got forgotten along the war.
Its actually fairly believable that the European wastelands would be more brutal than the American wasteland, but at the same time the societies more sophisticated and coherent. Bear with me for a moment. Taking Ireland for jut an example, even if it got nuked, it would not be nearly as bad off as its Neighbour Britain would be, at most, the Major Cities of Dublin, Belfast, Galway and Waterford would be nuked, but the majority of the Irish interior would be relatively unscathed, leaving much of the island free of nuclear taint, with easily at least one million people (barely) surviving the blasts. If even half of that survived the fallout, you would see an isolated island in Europe that would be culturally, linguistically, religiously and perhaps even politically identical to its pre-war counterpart. Albeit with no access to any oil whatsoever. Its not too far fetched to believe an Ireland in Fallout would be intensely xenophobic of outsiders, protective of its farming economy, and possibly launching punitive raids on its neighbours, while retaining a fair amount of knowledge about its pre-war civilization, albeit, without much of the infrastructure it would need to take advantage of it. The advantage of having different languages is it would help post war Europeans establish stable national identities a lot quicker than post-War Americans did, so even if say, Parts of France degraded to barbaric tribalism, the linguistic connections to more civilized parts of France would make the French tribes more loyal to civilized Frenchmen than the Spanish across the Pyrrennes. The downside is national wars on the scale of NCR vrs Caeser's Legion would happen a lot sooner as the impetus for competition and co-operation would propel sociopolitical development by decades ahead of America, albeit not necessarily technologically (really depends on how intact the Catholic Church is, in terms of a transnational organisation with access to ancient knowledge it is very likely the Church in Fallout's Europe would play a similar role to what it did after the Fall of Rome, trying to preserve the wisdom of the ancients to teach to the barbarians that inherited the ashes of an empire) There's actually a lot to play around with but its not really relevant to America in the Fallout storylines, which is why its purposefully left as a mystery I think, though I'd imagine any American wasteland power going across the Atlantic expecting easy pickings would be in for a nasty shock.
The mayority of all Spanish communities have got Spanish as their native language, even catalonia or the Basque country, it is mayority Spanish, so...who knows?
Oh no, with the French example I meant that the French tribes would feel more closely related to eachother than tribal groups from other areas SUCH AS Spain or Germany. Spain has a history of regionalism so it is very possible it might become a coherent nation, or become once again the patchwork of smaller kingdoms around regional dialects of Spanish such as Catalan and Galician
Yeah and we are also talking about some countries that will not feel much pain at all like the nordic countires sweden, finland and norway is big countries with small populations only the capitals and maybe secound cities would be nuked leading to wast countrysides un touched they were just not threatening or energy rich enough to bother with... unless you count trees fish and shitty candy reasorces.
Your theory is sort of skewed. America and China bombed each other to hades and all of the nuclear radiation will affect the globe. Ireland will still face radiation storms, acid rain and/or nuclear winter and it'll still be as outlandish as anywhere else with all of it's resources and inhabitants tainted by radiation to some degree. This'll cause some pockets of people to have more or better quality resources than others and those others will fight for those resources no matter who's got the better accent resulting in the raider gangs and subsequent factions we find in America. Now if Ireland got bombed there'd be nothing left of it, but why bomb it in the first place? Your example doesn't explain why anywhere in Europe is an essential target to bomb let alone Ireland, because who cares over the actual warring nations. America is it's own continent and China is in Asia, the two will be bombing each other rather than non essential targets. If Ireland doesn't like dim sims or if it has oil then you might be in trouble though. I'm going to assume you're American.. or Irish, who're you going to bomb; all resources on the effort towards your enemy or split your resources between your enemy and a neutral nation in the opposite direction because... why? This extends to the whole or Europe. It won't be touched by a bomb unless one went off course or someone doesn't like dim sims and it'll face the same mass hysteria as Ireland and the rest of the untouched world would from the creeping radioactive fallout that'll threaten natural resources. People speaking the same language will not band together, only local communities and families will against other local communities and families with factions such as pre established gangs, militias and government military groups in the mix. This will result in civil war and genocide over resources and dominance. National identity means nothing over survival or else in our Fallout games we would be flying one banner, or a few, against Canada and Mexico because national identity survived after being blasted to fuckery. But instead factions of the same national identity fly banners against each other. For. Resources. And. Dominance. I'm Australian and i speak English. My neighbour is Australian and he speaks English.. and i'd still kill him over a Grognak the Barbarian issue 1 comic or fucking whatever before he kills me for my compound bow.
I would assume that countries with simmilar languages would be more "united" or whatever, like germany and austria, France and belgium and denmark, sweden and norway.
but historicly we are the ones that have fought the most wars... Sweden and Denmark has World record in Wars between eachother since our nations were centralized under one king each. and Swedes and Geats(also swedes) have been fighting Danes and (jutes also danes) since the ice age ended so dont Count on Peace. it could aswell go back to primal hatred as history suggest. And both nations have acted out genocides against eachother several times.
As a "French BeIgian", we are waIIonians not french (We aren't french since MiddIe Ages, and a bit during NapoIeonic Wars), there's fIemish in the North and again reaIIy different from Dutch (ReIigiousIy [in History] in first, and by the differencies into the accent and Ianguage). Is Iike saying AustraIian/American = EngIish. But I had toughts about one Country who can reaIIy survive efficentIy, is SwitzerIand, in our ReaIity, there's in off NucIear SheIter and suppIies for aII popuIation for a NucIear Winter, entrain to be caIm during such of these events. Switzz's Iegendary neutraIy wiII prevaiI again in FaIIout Ahistory-Iine, good chance to not join the CommonweaIth of Europe, and trying to do his own buisness. And for me, if there's a FaIIout in Europe I think , the most instruting pIace is the Region of Milan, imagine the New Etruscan Tribes, a Dictatorship with a Ieader name "Il Duce", a Enclave-like of Switz, a Napoleonic Faction, and maybe a Iot of funny things.
You just need to remember that its only now that europe is not that much militaristic after the ww2 and whit the EU and the NATO, Europe has been always a land of wanabe emperors and conquerors
I don't think nukes were dropped on most of the European countries, I think more conventional bombs were used due to the civil war so the countries fighting in it didn't want to use nukes (essentially a double edged sword due to the radiation it could bring). Wich just left all of Europe in ruins rather than a wasteland, but since so many bombs were dropped it nearly had the same effect setting the civilizations back centuries without a proper government. About what the guy said about getting succes in the US wasteland, I think it is the post-apocalyptic equivalent of people finding success in the wild west, a unruly area to gain fame and fortune without a real government to hold you back. So I think in Europe there are no ghouls, mutants, and other mutated beasts/insects. But most likely a shit ton of bandits.
A nuclear war leaves almost no survivors, most countries would get sucked into the war due to the fact that nukes have a tendency to affect countries surrounding the one that was nuked. Because of this, I think that most of the world, save for a few areas, was devastated by nukes.
Unfortunately for Europe, even if they weren't nuked directly, wind is a thing. If enough bombs were dropped to reduce North America to a wasteland, air currents would've carried the radiation, ash, and dust across at least the entire Northern Hemisphere. And really, those three things are the sources of the long-term damage, not the blasts themselves. The "black rain" that fell a few days after the Great War and destroyed the entire ecosystem was probably a global phenomenon.
Puma, I want to get your thoughts on a Fallout title set in the Texas Commonwealth. Texas & Arkansas have so much to offer Fallout. Military bases are common IE Fort Hood and many others. The oil fields would make for a great environment and the terrain is very diverse in the region. The room for factions is immense, Texas has a very rich culture. Texas is known for it's country tone and down to earth feel. Dallas and Houston could contrast with the agricultural towns to create a divide between the new and old worlds. This would be a breath of fresh air in an industry flush with ultra modern concepts and game play. Great video as usual Puma keep up the great work we all appreciate your videos and wish to see you find big success.
I've heard requests for a game set in Austin Texas. 50's Austin could be a phenomenal setting; you've got the University in the center of town, the famous theater, and some classic of rock and roll! However, Texas' problem is that everything is too far spaced out; Nothing immediately surrounding Dallas, Houston, or Austin is of any interest at all. I can imagine that this poses a problem when wanting to design a world with many diverse regions. Plus, Texas isn't exactly admired by the rest of the country, though it is very populated. That's my two cents.
Thanks for the comment. The beauty of making a game is that you don't have to follow real life, as in Fallout 4 you could walk to Boston from Concord in a couple of minutes when IRl it's 77.6 miles away. The map could be a triangle of Houston, Dallas and Austin. The highways make for a great path to travel on also. As for the Texas not exactly being loved I don't hear anyone complaining about it when they fill up their car with gasoline. Texas has one of the largest refinery complexes in the whole US. It would make sense to convert it to a uranium enrichment complex though.
@Ben Crowley well even in the other games, they shrink down the distance/scale between population centers, for example, look at how small and unimpressive New Vegas felt after a while, even with the surrounding ruins. Texas is very spread out, but it wouldn't be TOO different of a concept than new vegas was. I mean, fuck, if they can make a desert and stuff it full of as much content as New Vegas, they can do it with the Dallas/fort worth area. You have places like Waco and many other cities and smaller cities surrounding it. Austin, however has San Antonio near it, New Braunfels and Fredricksburg (which are more German in culture), and even Houston and Galveston a stones throw away on the Gulf coast (for dlc purpose).
Likely unaffected due the southern hemisphere is never been a valid target for a nuclear war compared to the powers in the northern hemisphere like Asia, Europe, North America, North Africa and Arabia.
It depends, if Australia was an ally to the USA during the Sino-American War, it's likely that at very least the port facilities would be nuked to prevent Australia from supplying the US or providing a port for US Navy ships in the invasion of China. So, while the interior would be fine, I imagine the major port cities in Australia would be hit. It depends on whether or not Australia was neutral in the war.
To add to that, Australia would have likely still starved from the famines that would have been caused by the global nuclear winter, which could also possibly have caused civil unrest and a breakdown of society due to fighting over resources like food and clean drinking water. I reckon Australia won't be too much better than the rest of the world due to the breakdown of society and starvation, they'd simply be spared the quicker death of the nukes and instead have the longer death of things like starvation, disease, nuclear fallout or simply killing each other.
oh my god imagine a Fallout game in Australia, everything is already trying to kill you there even without nuclear mutations. Rad-snakes, more deadly Rad-scorpions, if deadclaws could have evolved in the US imagine what kind of monstrosities would evolve in Australia. a.k.a supernopes.
I like the theory that Britain managed to avoid getting nuked, and is basically an island of civilization slowly planning some great plan to retake the entire surface for humanity. I'd love a Fallout game with 3~4 smaller open world maps you travel between in China, Russia, and Britain. Soo much totally new story potential, that won't piss off the purists.
Throttle Kitty what about Ireland than There would be no political reasons to attack them and if your theory is correct than there wouldn't be any risk of the initial detonation or radiation affecting ireland
You brought up a good point about the survival underground. Living in London, the tube system ,o r the underground is expansive and would fit a lot of people in it. They were used during the Blitz during WWII, so I couldn't see them being used again, even if just for hope.
it can be, but every time theres a game set in England its always in London, it would be nice to have one set in the north for once, such as Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds ect
+Illiminatie overlord Gurglekoks Europe is an actual wasteland, there was the war in Europe which basically destroyed everything, apparently Britain turtled, I would prefer to find out whats happening in the UK, rather than taking 10 rads a second in Germany.
I would say that Ireland would not get nuked but suffer from radiation, I believe the government would collapse and tribes would form , but over years I would say a large country would form , maybe like 150,00-200,000 people, somewhat like the NCR and maybe there would be a few wars between Ireland and England involving raids and such. But please leave your thoughts
Comrade99 Coll I think it would cool as heck to have a fallout game in the balkans ... all the crazy nationalist would probably still be fighting there
Боян Михов it would be very good to see, but I feel they would do that in America, as the US did take Canada and Mexico , they would do a game on a border town between the US and maybe Canada or Mexico , would be good to see that
Comrade99 Coll Nah, if there had been a civil war in the commonwealth, most people would probably have a pre WW2 mentality or completely abandon nationalism.
Oh please, Ireland can barely exist country now. Imagine the shitstorm a nuclear war would create. Mad drunk sectarian Protestants and Catholics as far as the eye can see. And NO 30 meter high walls to keep them apart any more..
No. The last salvo of Her Majesty's Nuclear Bombs was made exactly to Ireland. All the same, traditions are very important for the British: six centuries oppresse Irish and now the last nuclear bombs for them to regret? Britain - generous soul: all the best torture and executions only for the Irish)
Matheus Elias All I know is that mine would be nuked to hell and my countries of ancestral homeland would be bombed. not particularly nukes, but normal bombs in Sweden and Germany. (yes I'm blonde btw if you were wondering, lol)
Camkane Gaming that hellhole is already filled with monsters and mutants so I shatter to think of the monstrosities that would be born after a nuclear war.
... Didn't the United Nations disband according to Fallout 3's loading screens and news articles? I don't think NATO would even exist if the UN disbanded.
fallout 5: set in post fallout Birmingham, England, and how there is a second industrial revolution, with steampunk feels and new big organisations, but keeping the fallout style/
Because only the USA (now USSA) has the tech to use nuclear power as a. energy source efficient enough to replace oil. And the tech was developed very close to when the nukes flew so no other nations had time to adapt it. Plus, uranium and all that is just as finite a resource as oil and fossil fuels are. So theres obviously gonna also be wars over control of the uranium mines and all that.
@@dildonius Interestingly, the ressource wars, as far as I know, never addressed the "uranium" ressource issue, only oil... Because, if it did, the lore would have been forced to include Africa into the battlefield of the ressource wars, since most uranium aren't in Middle East, but mostly in Africa. That's why France, the most nuclear-powered country in the world (i'm speaking about the real world France. I don't know for "fallout universe"'s France), had always got great interest economically in Africa since Charles De Gaulle (French president after WW2 who greatly pushed forward France as a nuclear power). Kind of strange they never mention any ressource war for uranium, plutonium, whatsoever ...
LeKain08 Idk, a lot of the deep lore we’re talking about comes from the Black Isle age, which we have to reconcile with Bethesda’s contributions (especially considering how shit they can be at lore consistency with the Black Isle stuff). The resource wars were wars over shortages of all resources and was basically world war 3 and thus would surely include all ally and proxy countries. There may very well have been an African theater over uranium sources that we just have not heard about. Not having info about something doesn’t mean it isn’t a possible part of the Fallout universes’s history and there’s a LOT of pre-war events and politics and history that has NEVER been REMOTELY covered.
ethan brinkman no, when it comes to energy technology, Fallout universe is far behind ours. Oil replacement is already in sight in our world, and most energy market forecasts expect electric vehicles to dominate after 2030. Since transportation is the main use of oil, this also implies our peak oil demand sometime in the 2030s.
@@pabochi9105 doesnt matter. The Fallout world diverges with ours at the end of World War II and their world was entirely reliant on the dwindling fossil fuels and oil drilling, and moreso nuclear power, which was highly refined to the point where it became the developed world's primary energy source.
ethan brinkman this whole thing is retarded it’s the 2050s and lol oil ??? Hydrogen fuel and many many others and electric and so on and there would be plenty of oil still left in Australia we have more uranium and that’s just the deposits found we have huge gas and oil more then the Middle East we just have not taped into most of it YET and for good reason as we don’t need all of it it will be useful when it all goes to shit in the Middle East and then we will sell more
It would be interesting to know what happened to Norway in the Fallout 4. The interesting thing is that we never joined the EU in our timeline. Would that suggest that we didn't join the European Commonwealth in the Fallout Universe?
Per Nyrud Kaas norway has a formidable amount of north sea oil. so according to the fallout scenario that would have meant war with at least the brits, germany and france...although the europe scenario is stupid as fuck and clearly wrotten by a american xD
MG-42´s are not used anymore, MG-3´s are used. You woult most likely not see a AK47, but instead a variety of other AK variants, such as the AKM, AKS, AK-102, AK-74 or the AN-94.
+Margus-Matis Roo a bit late but, remember Fallout has a 1950's theme but in the future. So WW2 weapons makes a lot of sense in the fallout universe, but modern weapons like we have today, like an AN-94 not so much. There still are a few weapons that are modernish in the fallout universe, but not enough to have An94's.
@@icommittedtaxfraudin. _Luckily_ , if you compare it to no-deal. But _unfortunately_ , if you compare it to EU membership. People are not exactly fighting for food and medicines, but there are shortages; the economy is on its knees, and many hundreds of people die each day from a single virus.
I imagine Europe would be back to medieval style society. People retreating once again in thise medieval fortified towns up on the mountains and leaving modern undefended cities. With a lot of infighting between city states.
