What happened to all Fallout Protagonists? 

why are all of them caked tf up 😭

They all started bakeries, judging by the thumbnail.

The weirdest thing is, out of anyone in Fallout 4, MacCready doesn't say anything at all about the Lone Wanderer and he would 100% have memories of them from Little Lamplight

I think the proper title for the Vault 76 protagonists are The Reclaimers. It was “Reclamation Day,” after all.

My personal cannon is the broadsider, but that’s just me

You forgot the main reason the Mr House ending is canon - It's because the House always wins.

A meta reason for the sole survivor using the minutemen ending is they are the only faction that allows the player to finish the game no matter what the player does. The other factions can become hostile enough to stop letting the player progress through their faction missions.

The Courier actually does have some confirmed backstory based on what Ulysses tells you in Lonesome Road. There are also several smaller tidbits that the player can choose to add to their backstory in dialogue options, such as potentially being a deadbeat dad or having never heard of Chicago

"James and his child live in peace for 19 years" *shows footage of people beating each other up*

The canonical reason we don’t hear anything about Appalachia is because the whole area got turned into a giant inferno. the Nuclear Winter game mode takes place 5 years after the main quest line and basically stated in the terminals that the players dropped so many nukes in the region it fucked with the atmosphere heavily, causing firestorms and forcing everyone to take refuge in vault 51. So ironically the very vault dwellers who were tasked to rebuild Appalachia ended up making the whole region uninhabitable.

Did I just realize that "Squire Maxson" from FO3 and "Elder Maxson" from FO4 are the same person, despite investing 100s of hours into both titles?....maybe.

Nate showing up as some armored level 286 god of war would be wild, only before the Lone Wanderer appears.

And the Overseer in Fallout 1 didn't not trust the Vault Dweller, he didn't trust the rest of the Vault to not get inspired by his actions and try to go explore the wastes as well

Dude you missed a huge section on the couriers back story. They played a major hand in what happened to The Divide and Hopeville.

I've always liked the theory that the Courier IS the Lone Wanderer. It's implied that the Courier has been all over the country and has origins in the east. Plus, the bullet to the brain and memory loss is a great plot device to explain his reset to level 1.

Your whole theory with The Lone Wanderer being Deacon has a massive plot hole that basically debunks the whole thing. Desdemona joined the railroad some time before September 2276 and Deacon was in the railroad before Desdemona having joined some point before 2273. This means that it is impossible for the Lone Wanderer to be Deacon since they would have been in the vault at this point since fallout 3 takes place in 2277. It just doesn't match up with the timeline at all.

The issue with Deacin being the Lone Wanderer is that Deacon has been mentioned extremely far back in Railroad history, talking 70+ years

Given the state of the Fallout TV show, my bet is Independent new Vegas eventually collapsed when the NCR (its primary customer) started to lose power. Meanwhile the Sole Survivor went with the Brotherhood and Minuteman ending, with the Minuteman acting as the ‘police’ to the Brotherhood’s Army and is the Elder of the Commonwealth Chapter - and I bet some Minuteman groups have been brought down to DC too and across Brotherhood Territory so they dont need to bother with anything outside of Tech retrival

I do agree. Bethesda needs to go take a page from Bioware with their canon. Theres the player canon and then there is company canon. Company canon is their canon for those who haven't played the previous games.

I was too busy looking at the lineup of Vault Cake in the thumbnail to read the title

Nate is also the most likely protagonist to actually appear in the show, at least as a cameo. Most Fallout protagonists are built to be molded into whatever you want (particularly The Courier), but even though you can change his looks and race if you want to, Nate has a pretty set voice, face, and personality. Most of his dialogue choices wind up ending the same way, and his general personality is the same no matter what dialogue options you generally choose, so from the Show's perspective he'd probably be the ideal Protagonist to include without having to worry about interfering with the established canon too much. Someone like The Courier I could see them referencing in name only, but if they were to actually cast a former protagonist for the show Nate is the most likely.

It’s wild that The Vault Dweller has a great-great-granddaughter living in Reno. Might even have a great-great-great grandchild by 2297

I fully agree with The Couriers ending, had the exact same rationale too, they simply did their job and stuck with their original employer without questioning everything, much like how they did in the past when they inadvertently created The Divide. As for the Sole Survivor, pretty much the same too, an Army veteran would be more likely to see their "Son" as dead, brainwashed by the Institute, and their hatred of them caused him to join something that feels like the Army, and would grant him his revenege, The Brotherhood of Steel,

“James and his son live in peace” > Son boxing everyone

Good to see you not burning out from all the Ready or not requests. Remember you have a fan base that isn’t here for RON but instead here for you.

Okay, hear me out. It'd be more likely in canon that Nate sided with the Minutemen because they ARE what he fought for. However, on a advertising standpoint, I'd say Brotherhood of Steel. That said, a battle between a New Union, A New Republic of Texas, and the NCR would be interesting.

Fallout version of “Why is everyone so mean 2 me”

You know its crazy back a few years ago I roleplayed that the courier was actually the lone wanderer from fallout 3. It was a fantastic role-playing experience. Even went back to fallout 3 and played as that character in the past.

Deacon is definitively NOT the Lone Wanderer. He's been with the Railroad too long. If you destroy the Institute with the Railroad, then the terminal in the room with P.A.M. becomes unlocked for you to read. It contains journal entries of the current known history of the Railroad under three leaders, going back to 2266. The first mention of Deacon as Deacon is recorded by Pinky Thompson, the Railroad's leader before Desdemona, in 2273, which is 5 years before the Lone Wanderer left the Vault. Also, it is mentioned in that same entry that Deacon has changed his name ('That's what he's calling himself now') which means he was around even before that. It was speculated in a later entry by Desdemona that Deacon may be an individual named John D, who disappeared from the record in the last entry before Deacon was first mentioned. John D is mentioned in the first entry, recorded 2266, as having been the only survivor of an Institute attack on the previous incarnation of the Railroad, and helped to rebuild the organization. Which means if that if John D is indeed Deacon, then he's been with the Railroad for over 20 years. The Lone Wanderer was still a child in the vault when those events happened. Even if Deacon is not John D, he's been with the Railroad longer than the Lone Wanderer has been out of the Vault. Unless the LW has access to a time machine, there is no way he can be Deacon.

The old man crashed his car in vegas, lost his caps and his memory, poor guy.

I like the idea of the sole survivor canonically being the leader of the minutemen while also siding with the brotherhood.

Just a note about the Courier, Biy MT had a rep at the pre war meeting, I’ll guess it was the person we know as Mobius, mostly because his rational side about the Think Tank and his apartment being the Sink. I also think the meeting had all players of Desmond’s Great Game invited, which will give us some ideas on how that plot line might play out.

The chosen one crashed his highwayman and settled in novac. The lone wanderer rose through the ranks of the brotherhood, liberated the pitt slaves and went on diplomatic missions to the outcasts but resigned after maxson seized rivet city’s reactor for the prydwan and went to live on mothership zeta. The courier went to live at the lucky 38 as mr houses protege. Nate became president of a reunified commonwealth after destroying the institute and driving out the raiders and mutants. He made a deal with the brotherhood to turn over any institute tech the minutemen find in return for additional protection but continued to secretly assist the railroad

Nate went back North to finish raking the leafs.

Why is everyone on the thumbnail so cheeked up on tuesday afternoon?

I would kill to see this same type of video about the Elder Scroll protagonists. 10/10 Video man!

I think the Tunnelers from Lonesome Road finally reached the Mojave, as Ulysses predicted. They overran New Vegas, which even with their army of Securitrons, was caught completely off guard by these attackers from below, and never stood a chance. A sad ending to such a beautiful city.

Personally I think the Minutemen ending is the canon one, just purely because it is the obvious 'Good Guy' ending, and Fo4 really made it difficult to be a villain, thought the Hybrid Brotherhood/Minutemen play-through, is effectively what i did as my 'Canon' play-through. It's also worth pointing out that regardless of BoS or Minutemen, the Railroad probably still exists, in some form, because Synths still exist, and the railroad HQ doesn't encompass every single member, we've seen agents other regions before, and the railroad has lost multiple HQs yet they have come back.

One of the big rules of being a fallout hero, you have to have it BIG BACK THERE

One small thing makes me think a male courier is likely the canon -- when you have the lady killer perk, some dialogue strongly implies that he may (or fears he may) have a bastard child up in Montana. It's one of the few dialogue snippets that expand upon his backstory that is locked behind a specific gender (whereas female couriers just get told they're good at servicing men with their feet), with most other background parts being universal. Given the depth it adds to their earlier exploits, it's at least an interesting possibility, if not a suggestion of canon, imo Also, Laura being a lawyer is quite possibly another nod to Albert Cole, who they state would have been a lawyer himself in another life.

Nora being a lawyer is a reference to Albert Cole being a “lawyer”

Vault 76 is mentioned in Fallout 3 but just described as a control vault which is set to open in 20 years

Now, hold on. That thumbnail. Was it edited? Because if not, I really should play Fallout.

I think Nate is the canon character of 4. Since he would’ve served with Coop at anchorage.

My theory with the Lone Wanderer is that he never existed, he is a wasteland legend, think about it for a minute, a mysterious vault dweller who saved the capital wasteland. It inspires hope in survivors, a reason to keep going.

The lone wanderer flew the spaceship away, found armillary pieces, reconstructed it and became a starborn

I love the theory that nobark is the chosen one. It explains a lot of fallout 2 even. Only somebody like nobark would see so many crazy random encounters like the cafe of broken dreams, the bridge, and all the other encounters. Kinda indicates that his mind wasnt always all there even during the events of fallout 2

There's also this moment in the Fallout TV show where a Vault 4 resident says her mother was a courier. Could be anyone, but the possibility exists.

I think fallout 76 and the TV show go hand in hand. The fallout TV plot reveals that vault tech are the masterminds behind controlling and managing the wastes with the enclave looking over them. In fallout 76 there are several nuclear missile silos scattered across Appalachia that the vault 76 overseer wants you to retake control off in order to nuke the scorchbeast queen (main storyline) and even the enclave (who oversee the nuclear silos) are very eager in helping you and give you full access to their supplies and satellite technology in assisting you Therefore I think that vault 76 entire reason for existing wasn’t to open up shortly 20 years after the bombs dropped to “rebuild America” but to secure the nuclear missile silos early so that vault tech once again have total control It’s safe to say then that the reason we hear nothing of Appalachia in the other games is due to vault tech nuking the entire area to cover up loose ends

There is one massive hole in the Deacon is the Lone Wanderer theory, what Sarah tells you at the end of Broken Steel, that "If things were different, maybe we could have had the time to become friends..."

Nora was probably in the army as well, she became a lawyer after her service- hence all the night courses. The vault salesman says "your family's service." There's also comments in the USS constituion quest.

I believe that the minute men ending is the canon fallout 4 ending, because we see some of the minute men walking around the wasteland in the fallout tv show for a second. This means the minute men were able to go through massive amounts of brotherhood territory from the east coast to the west coast. That’s just my personnel belief however

I only clicked on the video cause all the dudes were cheeked up on the photo

Elder Maxson is actually in Fallout 3 as a kid. Walk around the Pentagon for a while and you'll find him.

haha this whole video I was thinking about a video I saw that talked about Deacon being the Lone Wanderer, didn't realize you had made it.

I'm playing the Begin Again: Tale of Two Wasteland mod and it's story is that the Lone Wanderer wandered into New Vegas and became a courier for three years before getting shot in the head which not only made him lost his memories of Fallout 3 events but also forced him to relearn all of his skills.

if you put Deacon is Lone Wanderer theory on Fallout 4's canonical ending, that just implies Lone Wonderer died in the hand of Sole Survivor

i can really appreciate the way you plug the year of the game then add the difference between each game. EX; 12:39 ......... Little things like that cause me to sub easily.

the one thing I will say about Fallout 76, it would make sense for Vault tec to "know" about caps as Big MT predicted that would be the post war currency, and as shown in the fallout show they did sorta work together.

11:30 “James and his child live in peace” *shows protagonist fighting Butch and the Tunnel Snakes*

My headcanons: The vault dweller was still wandering about after fallout one, some version of the events of fallout brotherhood of steel happened (but not garbage) and he was there since he’s canonically Albert Cole The chosen one is the most powerful of the former player characters, with the courier in close second, but rules the NCR state of Arroyo as its governor with granite and his squad also living there The lone wanderer sort of disappeared after mothership zeta, either that or they grew disillusioned with the BoS after maxson took the helm. The courier did a combination of the NCR and Independent endings for maximum good ending and rules the state of Vegas as its governor The sole survivor joined the minutemen and either brokered a truce between all the factions except the institute or is fighting a guerrilla war against the brotherhood with the minutemen. They were actually on board with the brotherhood until the battle of bunker hill and Teagan’s quests gave them flashbacks to Canada and made them question if the brotherhood was even right. The ressies formed a quarantine with the help of MODUS and the reborn factions of Appalachia to contain the scorched plague since while they were immune, they could still carry it and spread it to other regions

"James and his child live in peace" *Shows PC getting into fist fights with all the NPCS*

Thank you very very much for this work .

My theory about the courier is probably he's kind of like the ghoul from the series either bounty hunting or just traveling

I mean, the 76 simulation being updated based on real-world events absolutely makes sense if you think about what it's for. If it exists as a way for Vault Tech to gage the potential success of Reclamation Day, then it absolutely makes sense that they'd be updating it with information on the surface. Hell, Shady Sands and Vault City's initial success at establishing a foothold within the wasteland may be owed to such a simulation.

House to my knowledge can still survive in other endings as you can choose to kill him or disable his ability to control the lucky 38 or securitrons, Leaving him as good as dead to whatever faction you've sided with. Could be Hank goes and finds House and brings him back into power thinking he'll help him wipe the slate clean.

I have a feeling the legion fell apart after Caesar’s death. We didn’t see any organized raiders, but wouldn’t we see maybe one warband even the legion banner somewhere in the show?

5:50 Canon F1 ending (As per Fallout 2 manuals written by 'Original Vault Dweller') is that he killed 'Master' in a hella big gunfight using big (and likely energy) gun, not using Vree's autopsy report (earned with intelligence check) to talk him off.

Ive always had a tricky time with cannon here cuz the first person who got me into Fallout and got me to buy Fallout 4 told me that every game was in its own Universe not that it was just seperate so for a while I thought there wasnt even a cannon, just an anthology of games and I went with it cuz it made sense, seems hard to construct a story with so many player decisions, some could view it as a slap in the face to choose one for the official timeline after getting to play it their own way

"I don't think a lawyer could survive in the wasteland" a mailman does, and so do oblivious vault dwellers

I like to imagine that the protagonists are all related and that the series is just one big family chronicle. My headcanon is that Nate had siblings/parents who all either served in the war or worked high up at vault tec, which would ensure they all got into a vault. So one family member went to vault 13, another to vault 76, and nate to vault 111. The vault dweller, chosen one, and courier are descended from the vault 13 lineage and the fo76 protagonist and lone wanderer are from the vault 76 lineage. Meanwhile Nate, being the decorated war hero he was, was put on ice in a similar vain to Bud's buds as he would've been useful as a future enforcer/military leader. It would then make sense why the vault rep was persistent in trying to get Nate to sign up for the vault, especially if Nate had family in the company. Maybe all the protagonists are all inadvertently part of a vault tec eugenics program to breed a super soldier or something like that.

I've always head-canoned that the Mysterious Stranger was the previous protagonist

I heard that the blimp in the fallout show isn’t the prydwyn it’s called the Caswynin

My ideal way of showing off the Courier in season 2 is: Lucy and Cooper wander into the quarry and get attacked by a deathclaw. It’s a really intense scene. Then just before the deathclaw is about to kill Lucy, its head pops and up on a hill is a person in a Ranger uniform and helmet holding a sniper rifle, New Vegas theme plays as the ranger looks over them, then carries on.

I imagine the lone wanderer is just chillin on his alien spaceship, ready to fire his orbital laser on anyone who annoys him😂

Who said Vault-Tec has to be the ones running the Simulation? The BoS could've discovered it, or another section of the Enclave.

I hope season 2 gives us details about Appalachia

You can activate liberty prime and use him with the minutemen, just fast travel if you are not on survival mode, or take a vertibird if you have survival mode activated.

I don't know but they presumably continued to live double cheeked up for many years to come

I will say that the Deacon/LW theory doesn't really have any legs, since Deacon is mentioned in Old Railroad records on PAM's master mainframe that I'm pretty sure date back to even before Fallout 3, and is directly mentioned as being in the Railroad longer than even Desdamona, although he is also implied to have earlier been under another alias "Johnny D" for some of that period, which muddies things a little. However, this does seem to show that Deacon has been in the commonwealth as a major railroad operative for over a decade, so he can't also be the Lone Wanderer at the same time. The Barbara and UP deathclaws story is also likely true, as it's the only story he tells that he will never admit is a lie, and occurs at max affinity. It's also worth noting that since University point is now destroyed and, that since the UP deathclaws were seemingly killed by Deacon over a decade ago, then obviously no information would be likely to exist anymore.

I personally think it’s the brotherhood ending in 4 but they end up either assimilating or working together with the minutemen where the minutemen take care of day to day protection of settlements but if needed have support from the brotherhood and in return the BOS gets to focus more on tech recovery and has a trading partner for food and supplies and eventually recruits

Awesome video friend, gonna look back on your older content

I really hope we hear more mention of the characters and vault 76 in the show in the future

"I really don't think a lawyer could survive in the wasteland." Albert Cole has entered the chat

maybe the real canon was the friends we made along the way

I personally like it when games make small or even large details canon. In Dishonored for example, i did a canon run where i made all of the widely accepted "canon" choices, and i absolutley loved it

Double cheeked up on a Thursday afternoon

Would be nice if the Institute ending was canon in Fallout 4, so much potential for the show.

The Lone Wanderer is in space

The Brotherhood could simply return to the Commonwealth and salvage a destroyed prydwen, it took them 2 years to make 1 airship at Adams airforce base, simply many years later it makes sense that the prydwen if destroyed was simply recovered and redeployed.

I think Nate in fall out 4 would have went with the minute Men, because he is the only fall out character to have pre. War values and to be around pre. War didn't grow up in a vault or in the wasteland so his values and thinking are going to be pre-war plus he fought for pre War America, so I think the minute man is the cannon ending for fallout 4 because of there values when the brother hood doesn't care who you are or what side your on

Thanks Shayne. I say both too. My canon is different than the main canon, though the main canon is generally vague enough to blend.

They specifically mentioned the show would NOT confirm a canon ending for fallout 4 options. The Prydwyn surviving the Commonwealth story means very little considering this is the third time the location of Shady Sands was changed. It might not even be the same Prydwyn, it’s been 9 years since the events of Fallout 4.

The theory about the lone wonder is crazy and amazing and I love it

The decon line wonderer theory is crazy and makes sense when you realize that decon has also gone by Johnny d

An interesting theory is that Birdie, a Shady Sands survivor, is Courier Six’s daughter. She mentions that her mother was a courier. There isn’t a lot of evidence supporting this, but it’s interesting to mention nonetheless.

I feel like, if Mothership Zeta did happen, no cap, then the Lone Wanderer probably did turn his/her back on Earth in disgust at some point. "We saved the Brotherhood, and THIS is the thanks we get?" sort of thing. Like the Courier deciding to stay in Big MT as a warden for its secrets, so too did the Wanderer, especially with the knowledge that the Brotherhood would utterly salivate at the secrets aboard that ship from a distant star. At least, that's how it happened for my character.

I really like your theory about Maxson and Deacon

@18:56 my bet has always been on Nate being the protag because, ending or dialogue choices aside for the rest of the game, I don't see how Nora beats Kellog in that encounter. Hell its farfetched that Nate wins it but at least you can say "oh he has actual military experience he's a war hero he would have much more tactical knowledge than even the most experienced wastelander."

13:41 not even sure if Lone Wanderer did make it to Vegas later on in his life :P but his book does. there's Wasteland Survival Guide in Vegas for Courier to use.