A thing to note about storage rooms. You can keep them empty, and they'll still function, but people can be assigned to them anyway. The thing about dwellers is that they are unhappy in rooms that do not suit their highest stat, and dwellers with high endurance don't really have a place to go until late game. Therefor, if you're strapped for happiness because your highest endurance folk are unhappy with their jobs and you can spare it, send them to storage rooms to get their happiness back. It functions as an endurance room because it makes endurance dwellers happy to sort through heavy boxes. It's a non-issue and you don't have to do it, but it's something to keep in mind.
I did too. I had it on iPad forever ago and deleted it but just a couple months ago I got a new Xbox as a bday gift and it was on there so I played and got hooked again so now it’s on my new iPad, my Xbox, and my pc. And I’m actually having fun playing it now.
I like to put all my rooms that produce electricity, food & water next to eachother - they should be full anyway, so if an incident happens it won't spread. Having 2 elevators at the top right and then a gap before the next elevator + 2 elevators at the absolute left and then a gap before the next elevator means that any enemy has to run first through all of the top floor, then all of the second floor and then lastly all of the third floor before it can reach an elevator that takes you all the way down. Also helps you find the bottle & cap guy fairly fast, as they have to walk the same 3 floors before they can get to the elevator. If you load those top 3 floors with power generators later on in the game you will have put your strength guys there, which helps with fights quite a bit. Putting your food and water stuff right underneath that means that you won't have to scroll much (if anything) to pick up all the stuff you've produced. Plus it makes it easy to find the stranger before your base grows to insane levels. That setup also maximizes the use of any Mr Handy you might have come across. Having nothing but warehouses at the bottom of your shelter and then a gap, does indeed mean that incidents can't spread. But having that many are also a sign that you have slacked cleaning up your storage space. You don't need 200 BB guns. Sell off the stuff you don't need, and plan ahead. This is really the most strategy intense bit of the game: Weapons are easy to plan, max damage plus a few quest ones. Next are suits. You need to plan for what you want to do. Wasteland optimization, maximizing dwellers in certain rooms, E-suits for maxing HP. Maybe a few fun ones if you're going for a theme, or loads of a few types of suits if you want to seperate out the ones you've trained and the ones you haven't for example, or the ones where you maxed endurence whilst they were level 1. Quest suits...lots and lots of planning to do here. Junk. Plan out what you want to craft. You can probably sell 80% of the things you're not going to use anyway. Frees up tonnes of space. Pets - sell the pets with the worst stats. It's fairly randome what you get on pets, in terms of values, and again - plan ahead. Do you need 20 pets that are related to the wasteland if you only ever send out 3 people at a time? No. Once you've sorted that bit out, you can probably sell off a good portion of your warehouses, drastically decreasing your need for electricity. Training - build all the rooms and max them. Start with the top one and put 6 people in it, once they are ALL maxed, put them in the room bellow and then 6 new ones in the room they were in. Rinse and repeat with all 7 rooms and then you will have fully maxed dwellers every time the bottom group is done with their training. Keeps it simple, and since you get batches of 6 fully maxed dwellers at a time, with relatively short space of time inbetween it makes it feel like less of a pain to max everyone. I got more tips, but that's enough of a wall of text for now. Hope it helps
Nice vault! I left these comments in the Discord, but figure I'll leave them here too for anyone else. - Minor correction at 4:15. Medbays and science labs always give 10 stimpak/RadAway storage per single room area, regardless of whether they're merged or not. It's their production that's most efficient per single room area when they're two-wide. - Regarding luck and the wasteland at 7:13. Some skill checks are just XP, but some are items too, like the ECL events for legendary junk (I can expand on this if anyone's curious). Luck also significantly affects how many caps explorers find, and it's one of the best stats for helping explorers stay alive (all help, AL the most though).
@@MoezAloufi Someone did some in-depth testing a while ago, and found that almost every check for legendary junk while exploring is against either endurance, charisma, or luck (ECL).There's one for perception too, but it only sometimes gives legendary junk, plus perception causes explorers to fill up on other stuff a lot quicker. Because of that, and because explorers can only carry 100 items before they're automatically forced to return (strength doesn't affect this, and recipes don't count), the person found it's actually most efficient for legendary junk finding to have max ECL with the rest of the stats as low as possible (1 or 2). Max SPECIAL dwellers still perform fairly well though. This is different in survival, where the most important factor is just whether an explorer can survive the trip or not (since exploration is far more dangerous). In survival, max SPECIAL dwellers perform the best for finding legendary junk.
perfect layout is elevator at the sides, to avoid random animal attacks (radscorps and molerats, and roaches) also helps with when you get attacked by deathclaws only downside is dwellers move slower through the vault
If we are talking end-game perfect layout then it's definitely elevators in the middle for fastest movement of dwellers. Also elevators on the sides makes it much more difficult to spot and click on Mysterious Stranger when he spawns in one of the elevator shafts. BTW the only thing elevators on the sides prevent are mole rat attacks. Radscorpions and radroaches can still spawn in any room in your entire vault no matter what you do. Mole rats are very easy to deal at the point where you can afford full mole rat proofing of your entire vault. Just to clarify I had the elevator on sides layout on my first vault that got to 200 dwellers and it was nice and effective at what I wanted, you get to make up to four 2-sized rooms on the same floor and you can make a maze by deleting few elevators on both sides for fun, but now that I understand almost all parts of the game, when making new vaults I shift towards elevators in the middle and have few dwellers working on every floor so that I can better respond to incidents and drag dwellers to help from other floors when needed. The fact I can reliably use dwellers from up to 3 floors to deal with incidents is invaluable in late-game when all your floors are full of rooms and there is not enough dwellers to occupy every room on every floor.
I think putting sandbox mode in fallout shelter would kill it since you can just get and see a perfect vault without having to play the actual game and get to experience having to solve resource problems and defending against mutant/raider attacks
If u put the elevators on the sides. No rooms touch dirt. And get no infestations only raiders U can even line the top and bottom to fully protect all rooms
You could do it, but... It wouldnt be worth it. Mole rats are the middle incident - meaning preventing them wont make things any easier. Radscorps are still going to be a problem Plus, surrounding things in elevators reduces how much space you have to work with, and thats not fun qnq
@@memeberfunk2731 wouldn't that cause a big issue with destroying rooms. My setup is similar to this one and I can destroy rooms independently without destroying adjacent rooms.
so i’m nearing the end of the game and i’m starting to revamp my vault and i’m running into some issues. i can’t destroy rooms that are connected by two rooms, which is like a trail that never ends. also having dwellers, how did you destroy everything with dwellers, did you send them to the wasteland? like all of them?
Yeah, not being able to have rooms stranded does cause problems later on. I hope you picked the right position for your elevators earlygame, because you're not gonna be able to change it. :/ As far as the "can't destroy barracks because population" part, I was able to get around that by doing all of my reconstruction at around 100 population. Sorry, this probably isn't the answer you're looking for qq
It's pretty rare that someone will just show up outside your door. It does happen sometimes, and using the radio room can make that more likely, but if you want to increase your population, its much better to just breed for it.
I'm at 63 dwellers right now. I'm gonna end up switching stuff like yours once I max out and end up with tons of caps. For defense I ended up putting 2 room storage at the top with one elevator after the vault door. With 2 max dwellers when you get attacked they run to the end of the first floor then end up running back so they never make it to the second floor
There isn't an easy way to do it, you pretty much just have to destroy everything and then build it all up again Because of that, I'd wait until you're pretty late into the game to do it. You'll have all the rooms unlocked, and caps will be a non-issue (you'll have plenty by the end if you know what you're doing).
to bad you did not show what weapons your using for your main front line troops vs the deathclaw attacks and such would be nice to see some of the later best weapons to lookout for / get / craft
For late game I strongly suggest the dragons maw or vengeance as a weapon for clothing it depends on what you prefer but for dwellers with max health use expert wasteland suits they give a bonus of 7 endurance to your dweller
Didn't expect to see this kind of video from you. owo I've seen a lot of rough starts to this game, which is why I always thought it was a pretty bad mobile game since you usually want your beginnings to be pretty easy to allow a lot of building to start up.
Because it s not a game but a model, simulation, and there is no end game, once filled up at maximum you can keep recycling dwellers with new babies and implement your own death conditions and assumptions. That makes for short and long term equilibria.
Yeah same i deleted game like 3 times because vault was getting always destroyed by raiders or molerats but the worst thing! DEATHCLAWS!!! But im planning to start game over and i will not try to raise population to much but enough much to get good things
Far from perfect, tje perfect way to build a vault is to make the first couple of floors only for electricity, and under that you bild the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. rooms and the rest under that, it takes replacing rooms and skipping floors but it's so totaly worth it given that no deathclaw or raider raid was/is able to get past floor 3 with maxed out "Secruity" as I like to call my wokers with max Strength.
I copied your base but even with fully leveled up Super Reactors, im super low with energy. Is it bc I only have 3 workers in each one? I'm maximizing my 50 Dwellers compared to your 195
Think of it like this - Production speed is based on how high the total stat level of that room is. Let's say I have 6 guys in the room with 10 strength each - the game sees it as "there's 60 strength in this room" and adjusts production speed accordingly. So since you have half as many guys, the production bonus will be half as much - but if their strength is lower than mine, the production bonus will be even lower as well Don't worry though, you'll make it! The weird thing is that you're in the middlish part of the game, and that's the hardest. o_o But once you push past it, you'll be in the clear!
you should focus on getting as many weapons and E5 clothes and sending ppl to the wasteland, save like 400k caps at least before you build your vault your main concern should be maximizing the amount of wasteland explorers you have, all of whom must have E10+E3 clothing minimum, this is the main source of caps, junk, weapons and armor in the game oh and if ur gonna create guns only create the best like the plasma rifle or dragon's maw.
@@user-vv1do1wg1j It seems you're very knowledgeable at the game and given that your reply was just about 2 weeks I hope you can still notice my question. Is it better to send off many explorers (let's say, 10 explorers) that are mediocre in equipment (i.e 10 stimpaks and 5 radaways only, 10 below-dmg weapons) or a few explorers (let's say about 3) but are well equipped? (Max stimps and radaways, strong rare/legendary weapons). Let's also just say both of the poor 10 explorers and 3 well equipped explorers have the same SPECIAL and level.
I have 80 dwellers, +7 outside with a base smaller than it could fit them so someone that has started playing for about 2 - 3 days would have a bigger base than me *s t r e s s*
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Umm... wow... did not expect this.... Also gotta ask who you think is more incompetent between Nexon/KoG and Bethesda. I do not like either company tbh....
When Bethesda flops, I feel like it's at least funny - they take their falls in a hilarious way. Although, maybe I shouldn't give them that, considering many of their blunders are also caused by them just flat-out lying Bethesda is also pretty black-and-white, everyone can agree when they screw up. Meanwhile, over on Elsword, people will back up or fight any decision made-- though I probably can't fault them for that, considering I try to be a more neutral party rather than an ultra anti-KoG type(?) I guess I can't have my cake and eat it too
that is one ugly vault...and the inteligence rooms by your logic 1 room is better than two merged rooms same with dorm rooms 5x3 means 15 rooms for 200 dwellers , and you have like 16...and can't use themes on any of them also for food you need two nuka cola rooms and maybe a third as storage and for power the same, two fully upgraded 12 dwellers and one or two for storage for stimpacks and rad 1 dweller with 17 intel can keep em coming non stop as long as you don't send like 10-15 dwellers in the wastes at once
