Is relying on uncorroborated AI or third party reporting as the basis to point a gun at someone itself unreasonable? Could we do that as citizens? Details: thecivilrightslawyer.com/2023/12/04/family-in-rental-car-held-at-gunpoint-after-false-report-from-ai-surveillance/ Here's another video I did on the same legal issue: Cops Point Guns Over THEIR Dumb Mistakes | "It's Policy" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1foAQXh9TUQ.htmlsi=VWvCmbYdGnGJtBIT
This kind of stuff will keep happening because we don't hold companies responsible. All we can do is sue and that takes years and makes no changes to the main problem. Stolen car calls can be very dangerous. All the comments about life over property is just crazy its not just property it destroys people's life's to have property stolen.
I understand cops have a difficult job but they *_CHOSE_* to become cops and know the risk involved, why do they have to put lives on the line without confirmation of a crime or a weapon? There's zero FACTS that specifically say that these people are guilty of any crime yet they're put in _torture cuffs_ and technically arrested for a false report.. In "The Land of the Free" why are Americans treated like criminals? Why do cops portray Citizens as *The Enemy* when we're supposed to be the ones that Public Servants serve? Threatening to have a dog bite and possibly slaughter INNOCENT PEOPLE is absolutely SICKENING and DISGUSTING! Disrespectful to Real Heroes who paid the Ultimate Sacrifice to defend Our Rights just to have domestic t3rror1st treat We The People as criminals/the problem.. Republicans say they don't want "Big Government" yet they allow wide nets cast like Big Brother to watch Citizens as if we're being jailed/imprisoned.. Like we're all criminals and if you step out if line you're immediately jumped on and removed..
It might be the basis for a stop but clearly pointing weapons at the driver, when they complied with being pulled over like any other motorist would have, was well over blown.
This isn’t the fault of the AI or the cops this is 100% the rental car’s fault and mostly the budget ones thrifty/budget/dollar and so on. Coming from someone that rents car a lot for work and travel. These rental companies tend to rent to lower economic class people target market and they will automatically put your car down as stolen after one day of not returning it and use the cops as basically repo men for free. When they do recover the vehicle with out the cops they forget to return to tell the cops and the poor next person in that car gets treated like a criminal as shown. As far as the cop is concerned that car is stolen. These companies need to be sued for there action and they should not be reporting them as stolen but for late payments and send repos after them not the law. This would cost them money and that’s why they do it in the first place.
Whenever the police claim you don't need to record the interaction, because their body camera is on, don't blurt out Bull Spit. As long as their is an "active investigation" body camera footage won't be released, except by court order. Then someone told them they can charge you for the footage and edit out what they want for officer safety or confidential sources. This is why the blur the computer screens on all released video. The other thing that needs to change is that departmental issued cell phones should be required by law to recorded. They get around disclosing collusion by using a phone instead of the computer terminal or radio traffic.
yes it is. We need to arrest the criminals for using the color of law to conduct highway robbery. Penal Code - PEN PART 2. OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE [681 - 1620] ( Part 2 enacted 1872. ) TITLE 3. ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS REGARDING CRIMINAL PROCEDURE [777 - 883] ( Heading of Title 3 amended by Stats. 1951, Ch. 1674. ) CHAPTER 5. Arrest, by Whom and How Made [833 - 851.93] ( Chapter 5 enacted 1872. ) 837. A private person may arrest another: 1. For a public offense committed or attempted in his presence. 2. When the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in his presence. 3. When a felony has been in fact committed, and he has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested to have committed it. (Enacted 1872.)
Always record the police. I've got a 360 cam 4K w/ audio- and I'm glad I do. I've already instantly solved two interactions with police by putting them on notice they are being recorded and the camera is tamper-proof-- which it mostly is unless they want to tear the vehicle apart.
excellent point. No actual victim reporting an injury. Lest arrest the cops for fabricating evidence of a crime and lying to the court. Penal Code - PEN PART 2. OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE [681 - 1620] ( Part 2 enacted 1872. ) TITLE 3. ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS REGARDING CRIMINAL PROCEDURE [777 - 883] ( Heading of Title 3 amended by Stats. 1951, Ch. 1674. ) CHAPTER 5. Arrest, by Whom and How Made [833 - 851.93] ( Chapter 5 enacted 1872. ) 837. A private person may arrest another: 1. For a public offense committed or attempted in his presence. 2. When the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in his presence. 3. When a felony has been in fact committed, and he has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested to have committed it. (Enacted 1872.)
Damn, never thought of that Yet another double standard to the book (like being responsible for every single shot you send down range...unless you're a cop)
"The nature of power is such that even those who have not sought it, but have had it forced upon them, tend to acquire a taste for more." - Aldous Huxley
The woman dispelled their suspicion immediately, yet they still locked her in a cage in cuffs and threatened to send a dog to maul other passengers at gunpoint. This has really gotten out of control.
Agreed! It was abundantly clear that this was a mistake, but not on this couple's part. Even though the rental company's attorney was technically correct that the couple could have cleared this up if they had presented paperwork, the whole thing could have been avoided if the car had not been reported as stolen!
In the eyes of cops and law enforcement, you are guilty until you PROVE yourself innocent. You are 'supposedly' innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. I say 'supposedly', because the cops and judges and the DAs, ALL go hand in hand. So good luck on trying to prove your innocence when the system is designed for you to fail.
RS exists. They had a report that the car was stolen, it's reasonable to assume it was. Fault lies with the rental company for not recinding the police report.
Hertz is currently settling a huge lawsuit with over 350 people that this happened to. When they can't find a car in their system they just automatically report it stolen.
The automation of the links between corporations and police is frightening. We the people are second rate to the government and the powerful business who control the government.
@@hollowdog9049if you have never been on a jury, it’s important to remember that the money also has to cover lawyer fees. Something a lot of people on jury’s don’t understand that part. Legal proceedings take so long and the means dozens to hundreds of hours the lawyer needs to be paid for. Long story short, if you are ever on a jury double what you think is fair.
I'm not disturbed by that. We should all know by now that it's the classic "Good cop" act, trying to chat you up so you might say something incriminating.
The woman was so calm.they’d have been getting a verbal lashing from me. They clearly do this shit all the time. Isn’t it their duty to question such unlawful policy. The woman should not have been held in handcuffs like this.
And cuffs are purposefully designed to hurt and be uncomfortable. Get rid of this bullshit technology that does nothing but violate the rights of the citizens. All of this AI crap does is make mistakes and people wind up hurt or killed. They better not bring this bs to my city. red light cameras are bad enough. The last thing we need are cameras setting people up to get shot by police.
Right. She should never have been placed in handcuffs in the first place. I don’t agree with profiling, but in this case a bit of discretion would benefit the situation.
Good luck with that one bro, the old addage about being the hammer applies here if you are not the hammer your the nail ,they can make up laws as they go along,once that occurs you are going to get nailed
Just because we humiliate you, pointed loaded guns at you, did a felony take down, handcuffed you, doesn't mean we don't love you and that you are in any trouble. We gotta call.... We gotta do what we gotta do.... Officer 'Safety' dontcha-know SMFH
On shooting ranges, it is well known that off duty cops need more supervision from range officers than does the general public because of their bad muzzle discipline.
@@colinrk Who says they have no intention to shoot. American police generally want to kill the suspect, do you notice that in very few real shootings the police do not shoot to incapacitate, most are multiple shots with intent to kill, for the slightest reason.
@@markorsrpska7230 Neither you, I, or cops live in a Hollywood fantasy where the good guy does a quick draw and shoots the gun out of the bad guys hand. Cops are not taught to shoot to incapacitate and if you ever took a firearm self defense course, you would not be taught that either. Cops and properly trained civilians are taught to shoot at center mass. The torso. It is the biggest target and the easiest to hit.
I was taught this very same thing at the age of 10 by my father, who was a cop. At that age I knew how to load, aim, fire a gun, and how to disassemble it, clean it, and reassemble it. This was better than 50 years ago, way before the advent of cops in tactical gear and "officer safety" above all other considerations.
Right? After that civilized conversation in the back of the squad car, all while being handcuffed, logic dictates that she be promptly uncuffed. The police do not need to apologize quite yet...but, it is close!
The most surprising thing that I learned is that cops aren't even legally obligated to protect people. That obligation only applies when you're in their custody, but even that is questionable. So it really doesn't surprise me where their priorities lie.
Then they will explain its because their job is so dangerous, even though pizza delivery drivers, gas station workers, roofers, farmers, airport workers and many other jobs have a higher injury / fatality rate on the job according to the US department of labor. Copsplain some more karens in blue. Plus add in the fact that it is well known rental companies falsely report stolen cars all the time, why are they holding a middle age lady at gun point and getting her down on her knees? Tax payer leaches.
If someone's car was stolen, it can be life changing. They cant take the kids to school, buy groceries, get to work etc. Not everyone has great insurance, or the ability to rent a car on such short notice. (Some people even have no insurance, ad bad as that is) The cops *should* be stopping stolen cars. They *shouldn't* be using some shoddy AI program to detect them however.
Imagine renting a car, getting arrested at gunpoint, then the rental company blaming YOU for that situation because of their negligence? After that comment from their lawyer I would've raised my lawsuit from $500k to $5mil in a heartbeat.
I doubt that having the rental agreement would have made much difference. It shouldn't be a factor. I don't think the cops would have let them go if they had the rental agreement. Even so, you should always keep you rental agreement handy and in the car. When the cop asks for "license, registration and insurance" the rental agreement is the registration. It is like the pink slip on your personal vehicle.
@@greybeard5123 Even if they had the rental agreement they still would have had guns pointed at them and been handcuffed. This is a constitutional violation of their civil rights.
@Sarge57 Agree. I've pointed out on other threads on this video that car theft is a crime of stealth. The police response and policies seem appropriate for car jacking, not simple theft.
@@skippylippy547 Negative.. Brandishing is nothing more than popping it from a holster to show someone, or flashing it from under a shirt/jacket.. Or for instance flashing a knife at someone.. What those cops did was threatening/life ending.. Not just showing/brandishing..
@@SaltyNationalist I agree with you. Those cops were wrong. But the comment from sstrongman said "If I were to point my guns at someone like that for no reason, it would be a felony." He's correct. As someone who carries a concealed handgun every day I know that "Brandishing" can get you into a whole lot of legal trouble.
I open carry on my property. So if I happen to be in my front yard and someone walks or drives by and sees a firearm, would that be brandishing? I don't believe so, i would think it would be removal from a holster or bringing a rifle into a ready position. The term “brandish” means, with respect to a firearm, to display all or part of the firearm, or otherwise make the presence of the firearm known to another person, in order to intimidate that person, regardless of whether the firearm is directly visible to that person. 18 U.S.C. § 924(c)(4).
Nobody with any common sense will do that job anymore. That was done intentionally by design to introduce martial law whenever they want. Who else you gonna hire chief?
Your problem starts with the fact that you call these thugs "law enforcement." They break more laws than they enforce. A cop's job is to create revenue and to act as enforcers for the establishment. Do you really believe things would be like this without their blessing? America has the highest prison population in the world for a reason.
Reasonable went out the window after they were given a reasonable explanation and still threatened the husband with a k9. Absolutely shameful! Sue the rental company and sue the police.
correct. they are criminals. lest arrest them. Penal Code - PEN PART 2. OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE [681 - 1620] ( Part 2 enacted 1872. ) TITLE 3. ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS REGARDING CRIMINAL PROCEDURE [777 - 883] ( Heading of Title 3 amended by Stats. 1951, Ch. 1674. ) CHAPTER 5. Arrest, by Whom and How Made [833 - 851.93] ( Chapter 5 enacted 1872. ) 837. A private person may arrest another: 1. For a public offense committed or attempted in his presence. 2. When the person arrested has committed a felony, although not in his presence. 3. When a felony has been in fact committed, and he has reasonable cause for believing the person arrested to have committed it. (Enacted 1872.)
It isn't property rights. They would be more than happy to destroy this property in order to make an arrest. The one overriding aim of all police procedure is "officer safety".
Cops held Steven Bomar at gunpoint after a racist driver called in a false report to 911. Unfortunately, we see this too often... 911 calls used as weapons against Black people. They can QUICKLY turn deadly for innocent parties. There must be consequences for false accusations! Years of not standing up and supporting black and brown folks has now become whites own problem. The threats are on everyone out their.
These cops were nice and professional. It's not their fault the rental car company reported the car stolen. Your blood is boiling over the wrong thing, and people like you generally make life more difficult from what I've experienced.
i admire people that stand their ground. cops could have cleared this up more quickly!! they were not following constitution. they were not acting professionally.@@jsncrso
Having a gun pulled at you, being handcuffed, and being sat inside a police car, shall be the most traumatic experience a person might go through. Having a batch/uniform/gun, does not give you the authority to feel above anyone.. Without that costume you’re a regular person just like everyone else.
"Just because we stopped you, terrified you and pointed guns at you doesn't mean you are in any kind of trouble." You are just virtually on the edge of death because of a database error! This is nuts.
@@ketapillar we hire cops to protect society. We pay them to go into dangerous situations so we don't have to. Instead, now they have immunity if they cause damage or harm to the public. They can damage cars, homes, businesses and not be liable. They can injure innocent bystanders and not be liable. You need to sue and win to get just compensation.
When the innocent are treated the same as the guilty we don’t have a justice system. This cop is NOT sorry about anything that they have done to these people.
So funny. Thought that you were innocent till proven guilty. How foolish of me in the real world you are guilty till proven innocent. To a police officer, no badge means you must be a criminal.
CITIZEN IN EACH POLICE DEPARTMENT'S AREA, HAS TO PETITION THEIR "MAYOR" TO CHANGE 100% OF LEO'S VEHICLES PUBLIC SIGNAGE, FROM IE. "PROTECT AND SERVE" TO: YOU'RE NOT IN TROUBLE! that feels less than truthful?
they took to protect and serve off of most tyrant cars many years ago ,, should be we are here to make revenue for the criminals ..your gov..@@georgedunkelberg5004
So this is a genuine question, if in your opinion the cops shouldn’t be allowed to detain “innocent” people, wouldn’t every criminal just claim to be innocent? What would the actual job of the police be in this scenario then? Only go after the ones they personally witness committing a crime? And even then wouldn’t the obvious defense just be “I am still innocent you must be mistaken if you think you witnessed me committing a crime!”
What I find crazy is that they are willing to shoot you if you're in a stolen car, but when I had my car stolen, the portland police could not have cared less.
It isn't any better in the suburbs. I had to pester the Washington County Sheriff's office for two days before they would even let me file a stolen vehicle report when my truck was stolen.
They don't want to do any detective work ever. They just go around pulling people over hoping they happen to catch someone committing a crime. I mean just look what they do all day, they spend half their time hiding somewhere trying to catch speeders.
It's time to move out of Portland! I used to live there also. Or rather a few miles from there. I worked in Hillsboro. I'm glad to be far away from there. A car is stolen about every 28 minutes there.
The same thing happened to me and my buddy in Florida! A former employee of the company we were working for took this truck we were driving and went home to Alabama, so the company reported it stolen and never told the police they got it back! Very scary! The cops apologized and even offered us a ride home! One cop told us that we were lucky that they didn’t have a trigger happy cop there and laughed!
“I know this sucks.” Complete unprofessional, lazy and abusive tyrannical policing. These cops were not interested in protecting and serving but just looking for easy arrest “they must be guilty of something.” What a bunch of clowns. I do hope that these crooks have been taken to account and “re-educated, retrained” before working anywhere near the general public again -
@@lynnsavoy1694 They know that which is why they acted the way they did. The problem wasn't the officers, it's the damn policy. They NEED to change their policy because this was insane. Hopefully they sue and the policy gets changed.
It's the people that say just comply and you won't be in that situation! These people didn't do anything wrong! We can all be at gun point at some point
A reasonable person would expect the police to look at your rental agreement before they pulled all their guns on you and made you play a game a Simon says for your life. Police really don't do police work anymore.
Look, the majority of enforcers nowadays are in the field so they can brake laws without repercussion. Said enforcers have created a monster out of the public that inevitably is going to consume them and they are scared of that... that's why everybody is treated like a criminal, except for their acquaintances.
Your description while accurate is scary as hell to the average citizen. Crap like this gets people killed. I know police have to be careful but asking a question and verifying seems to be gone.
Par for the course as we head into total totalitarianism and ruled by a brutal blood thirsty cabal of self-appointed dictators. Get used to it sheople.
@@draighodge6039 No, there's no 'record' for being detained. That only applies if the person is arrested and they are booked at the police station. Although the police did treat them almost as bad as if they were arrested by leaving them in handcuffs that whole time.
That's why they jones over ID like a drug addict. It's one of the ways they can long term profile "a person of interest" without charges. I learned that years ago when I had a really bad experience with a cop who threatened to arrest me over trying to file a police report. Not too many months after that, I got stopped by another tyrant cop from that same department who took offense to me simply asking why I was pulled over. He almost immediately went into the old routine of "Oh are you that guy with the big mouth who we've had trouble with before?" How would you know that officer? You aren't compiling extrajudicial information and targeting me are you?
You know....the more I watch videos like this, the more I want to stay in my house. It has become much more stressful to go out for even a short errand, the way people have become so selfish and aggressive since Covid. And then you see these uniformed storm troopers, violating the rights of perfectly innocent people. We are a hairs breath away from Mad Max.
They'll come at you in your own house minding your own business not bothering a soul just going about your day. All of a sudden they decided they wanna "F" with you.
If I wasn't married, I wouldn't be in this country. In China you can walk down the street with an opened beer and the cops will not mess with you. American society is the only society in the world that allows this type of corruption and brutality. I've been around the world several times and every time I come back I'm blown away by the ignorance from Americans.
Cops don’t have an ounce of sense! Early on it can be determined there is NO THREAT! The cops need to be held accountable as well as the city if this behavior they condone!
ANYTIME you're in handcuffs...you are in fact, IN TROUBLE. All this over a 3rd party notification, and holds them at gunpoint, as if they chased them after robbing a bank. And then, before any determination of criminal activity, put you in the 'paddy wagon'....you are in trouble. And you need to be in fear for your life being taken by overzealous bullies with badges. Sanctioned pirates. DISGUSTING!!!
I was a huge back the blue guy. I watched hundreds and hundreds of these types of video, and I get it when they say defund the police I get it, believe me, don't agree but I get it,
This video is concerning. My little town here in Washington State just installed a FLOCK Camera system. Every single person that drives has their license plate photographed throughout the city. The potential for errors like this one is pretty scary.
as well as data about you that can be used against you even if you're innocent (you just happened to drive by somewhere) but NEVER to help you out. Like, if there is a thug robbing a cashier at a 7-11, and you happen to have been one of the few cars passing by at that time, and you're the "nearest" looking person to fit the description, your house door is already blown in, you and your family full of holes, and you're cuffed while your family bleeds out with no assistance, and they even stop to taze your chihuahua that's leashed to a bedpost out of the way... BUT if you are accused of anything, and can PROVE with that constant video surveillance, that you were ELSEWHERE at the time, even if you KNOW the WHOLE WAY has been recorded with no dead angles and no bridge to hide under, etc, they WON'T provide evidence to defend, and even if they did, the prosecution would try and invalidate the evidence of innocence based on the fact it wasn't what the system was designed for...
Those plate readers are severely flawed, they make errors with different states so a car could be stolen in Arkansas but someone with the same plate but in Arizona can be detained.
What's really scary is that if this frightened woman slightly tripped a bit while walking backwards or something, these aggressive idiots could have shot her.
being a middle aged woman, I could not have performed "going down on your knees", scary to have to be scared that a police officer might just ever demand it; never thought it for possible.
Friend back in the 80's borrowed a car someone who didn't know it was loaned out reported it stolen. Cops stopped him they didn't pull guns one officer put his hand on his gun while another approached and told the guy to keep his hands on the wheel. They got him out of the car and cuffed him after about 30 min dispatcher called was told it was a mistake. Today have police ready to fire with rifles used for war at you one wrong move end up with 100 bullets in you. In those days unless cops pulled over a low rider in south central LA no guns were pulled in any of those cities like Oceanside. I grew up in Huntington beach these were always wealthy cities no reason to pull guns on people.
Doesn't matter how politely the cop is speaking to her it's just wrong to treat people this way. At least cuff them in the front so they are comfortable while having their basic constitutional rights violated by these authoritarian knuckle draggers.
They were cuffed for "Officer Safety." Cuffing them in front would show that they weren't primarily concerned with safety and so had no reason to cuff them at all.
Cops forget that they don't need to handcuff EVERYBODY, it IS possible to arrest people without cuffing them, but they forget that (or never understood it in the first place) and think they do have to handcuff EVERYBODY and do it from the back no matter what, no matter the circumstance, even if it doesn't call for it. They're very simple-minded creatures with very small brains with very few neurons and even fewer wrinkles. They're not very capable of independent thought.
The cop being so "polite" makes it all the more infuriating. He clearly knows this level of abuse is not necessary, but he continues to participate anyway. Any officer that remains employed by any police department that does this crap is just as guilty as the politicians and bureaucrats that create these problems.
Can't take the risk, man. They have to thoroughly check the informations. Otherwise the slick talking ones can slip away, and then you'll be the first one to curse the police for "not doing their job".
@@boulderbash19700209 I could agree if it was one officer by themselves, but there were like 5 cops there. If they can't handle one woman, they aren't qualified.
@@boulderbash19700209 Exactly. The ignorance of people in the comments section is always deeply troubling to me. It's as if people have forgotten that lying and being deceitful still happens regularly. Safety precautions are important. Just because someone seems kind, friendly, and compliant in one instance doesn't mean that they may not be searching for a moment to escape or attack. The police know this better than most. Most people watching this video likely live in a first world country and can't fathom the reality that the world is not as safe and friendly as most people live their lives thinking it is. For most, it takes some sort of tragedy to realize this. Personally, I saw nothing done unprofessionally by the police in this entire video. Policy was followed and the citizens were treated respectfully as the investigation played out. As far as constitutionality goes, the technology that was utilized in the stopping of this vehicle is relatively new. As such, it's unlikely that case law has caught up in regards to its implementation and as time progresses and more instances like this occur, legislation will be updated and policy may change.
@@Nikolai2378 I dont think many would view pointing guns at people as treating them respectfully. Threatening them with attack by a K9, soooo respectful.
It’s very telling that you go thru a city and your license plate is scanned randomly for no reason by an inaccurate computer system. This really could be any of us just minding our business than having to be in a kidnapping situation.
I'm sure she was just extremely relieved to not have been shot at that point. From them getting a lawyer it sounds like they had time to digest everything and will never feel safe around cops again. Especially the husband with the cops threatening to send the dog in to bite him.
My community has plate readers everywhere. I don't remember being asked if my tax dollars should fund this. It costs thousands a year in tax funds to maintain these.
Maybe not being on cameras, or being seen as avoiding cameras, will be the next level of AI alert. If it can't visually rule us out as being on its wanted list, maybe AI will order it's 'armed human drones' come over to check on us. Just to keep us safe, of course.
I agree Matt. But how do we fight all this surveillance? Every level of government is doing this now. I wonder how many people are willing to come together to address this in a meaningful way?
These sovereign officers are so used to treat people like garbage that instead of giving her the opportunity to prove her innocent they kept her caged like a dog, why don't they give her 10 minutes to look through her emails?... Is it officer safety too?.
You'd think rental car companies would stop this stupidity before they are bankrupt from lawsuits. This should result in a $1m judgment for every instance.
Outrageous and unacceptable. How can you justify any of this behavior! Pointing guns, handcuffs, put in the police car, and THREATENED WITH A DOG!?! Hold them accountable!!!!!
It's because the auto-industry has successfully conquered the entire continent and convinced people that cars are the most important, most valuable things, so anyone willing to steal a car is the worst, most dangerous criminal of all.
Lawyer: "Officer, how did you determine probable cause that the plaintiff had committed a crime?" Officer: "The computer told me." So dangerous, and unconstitutional (illegal). "The silicon chip (literally an inanimate rock) told me to do it." It's wild.
@@TheLoneCamperwould you feel the same way if it was your wife in driving the car and it was erroneously reported stolen and the cops only attempted the bare minimum amount of police work AFTER THEY GOT DONE TREATING HER LIKE AN ARMED FELON?
I have been saying this for a long time. The emphasis on officer safety is putting the safety of the public at risk. Sure police need to protect themselves but they are going too far.
I got screamed at by an insane psychoath cop for stopping legally at a stop sign… 🤷🏻♀️ It was witnessed by 30 other cops… it was a psychopath parade that day apparently. I saw them coming 3 blocks away with all lights on. Couldn’t hear sirens but just sat legally and waited for what I thought was an oncoming ambulance or firetruck. I was at an empty intersection with zero traffic the entire time I was there. Independence, Missouri. He screamed that I hadn’t stopped. wtf? I’d been there for what 3 minutes? They were going real slow. He was spitting with rage. I just said “I did?!” And he left. wtf? They are a gang of wolves in that town. Criminal gang from what I have heard. 🤷🏻♀️ I don’t live there, I was just killing time before an appointment and thought I’d look at the neighborhood slowly.
Part of me is suspicious they do this as a training exercise. To get a chance to practice irl bc it feels like there were a bunch of other things they could do to confirm b4 for turning things up like this.
@@I.____.....__...__U.C.M.J. would definitely wipe the floor with you if you pointed a gun under R.O.E.. Some of these cos-playing idiots think that the gear makes you battle tested and invincible. Rule 1: NEVER point an instrument of death unless you are willing to take a life. So don't lump functional, thinking skilled individuals with this kind of mess! Rule 2: See rule 1 for more information regarding firearms!
If someone squats in your home, the police tell you it's a civil matter, and you're homeless until a long and costly legal battle concludes. At the end of this process you may be bankrupt. If a corporation reports that their property was not returned in a timely manner, it justifies use of deadly force. You can't tell me with a straight face that there is not a multitierd justice system in this country.
Tells you who the police work for doesn't it. Read the events of the Pinkerton Detective Agency and the steel mill strikes. They worked for who paid them.
You are right on this one. How stupid is their treatment of this couple. Every car they pull over could have someone armed and dangerous. So dumb, they are lucky they ran into cooperative people.
Yup....once you see the dozen or so LEOs on the scene gathering in a huddle, you know they are tossing the dice to see what they are going to be charging you with.
LEO ought to be arrested, jailed, and prosecuted for tampering with evidence whenever they disable recording devices. Separately, the Prosecutor should charge the rental company with filing a false report. It's what they do to mere citizens who make false reports.
You or I would be at the minimum be harassed if not arrested. Saw a video the other day where a woman was detained in New York because she _didn't_ film a police encounter. Apparently it was her fault that the cop didn't have a body cam. A few years ago, police in Florida detained around 20 motorists and forced them to ID themselves as potential witnesses to a police encounter that had just taken place. People that had just driven by after the fact.
Every bit of this was unreasonable. Once the "AI" hit, someone should have called the rental company to verify. The whole felony stop was outrageous and has no place in a free society. A government employee's weapon should never be touched until there is a clear and present threat. PERIOD.
@@maryshea603same! And it just graded on my nerves the way he was giggling and laughing while she was literally kidnapped and tied up in the back of a car! Just giggle giggle giggle! Argg!!
The creepy part is that, what if they weren’t a middle class looking family? What if they were minorities? Things like that will definitely make a difference sadly.!
Mack - Yes. But so is the FBI throwing more than a thousand citizens in a D.C. Gulag for more than 3 years on January 6th. Midnight raids, kicking in peoples doors, all for what? And did you forget what the government did to all of us 3 years ago because of a virus?
@@adrpals2324*"She should of found an attorney like Saul."* of /əv/ preposition 1. expressing the relationship between a part and a whole. "the sleeve of his coat" 2. expressing the relationship between a scale or measure and a value. "an increase of 5 percent" Apologies for being pedantic, but the "could of", "should of", "would of" is one of my pet peeves. What you're looking for is "should've" (should *have*). Thanks for your time.
