@@TheAnnoyingBoss When was the Accord ever a sleeper? Lol The Accord is one of the most popular sedans in the USA. Everyone and his uncle has seen or heard of it. You want to talk sleepers, think along the lines of a Buick Regal Sportback, Impala SS, Chrysler 200 S...
@@kingdarius5252 Chrysler 200 S 0-60 5.7 seconds Impala SS 0-60 5.6 seconds buick regal sportback 0-60 5.6 seconds Accord 2.0T 0-60 5.5 seconds The 2.0L turbocharged version is definitely a sleeper, it’s pretty quick for a family sedan.
@@kingdarius52525.4 sec 0-60 for an ACCORD that’s a 4 door family sedan is a sleeper… you wouldn’t expect an ACCORD to be reaching those times, so it’s a sleeper😂 the 10th gen accord was even quicker than the V6 camry. the red one shown in this video
i went to go test drive the 2023 accord. i was extremely impressed by the drive quality. you can literally feel how much they've stepped it up. i like knowing my fav manufacturer put that much thought into making sure i have a very comfortable effortlessly premium drive.
They have oil dilution problems, still use CVT transmissions that feel like crap and the engines are not built as strong as they once built them. Toyota has a 2.5l non-turbo engine with a regular 8 speed automatic transmission and ours has been flawless. 2024 Camry gets a 2.4l twin turbo charged engine. I passed on the Honda even though it looked better the Camry felt stronger and has now started clocking cars making it to 300k miles and over so it has kept its legendary reliability. Both good cars, but I will not own a CVT I hate the way they feel.
Does Hybrid 2.0 motor has oil dilution also? Or it is only in 1.5T models? I also was considering acura tlx 2021+ 2.0T or 3.0T. Do you recommend buying Hybrid accord or tlx?
@nikaratiani3478 The oil dilution problems only pertain to the 1.5 liter engines. The turbocharged 2.0 liter engines haven't had oil dilution problems as far as I've heard.
It is a problem for any direct injected engine even Toyotas it is just not as bad. When you got a high pressure pump forcing fuel in under that pressure it will make it past the rings. I just started changing oil sooner than I did. Went back to every 3k miles.@@iamjshep3
@@JasPlunMy wife ani have owned 11 Hondas since the mid 1980’s, Never had/heard of an Oil Dilution issue, Honda was the forerunner of the modern auto trans. Honda is the world’s largest manufacturer of internal combustion engines. Honda makes the most powerful, most dependable, most fuel efficient internal combustion engines on the face of planet earth. Overall, Hondas retains the highest resale value. Toyota is the world’s largest manufacturer of vehicles on the planet. A midsize Toyota pickup is the number one choice of terrorists worldwide. They come in one color only; Desert Sand Beige, comes equipped with a tripod bolted to the bed, you can mount your.30 caliber on it.
I think the Accord has less aggressive looks compared to its predecessor. its much simpler. However, I like its interior and the amount of torque it has which will give it some speed advantage
I'm kinda warming up to the more simple look myself on the exterior. Especially if it has red paint. Got the Accord hybrid sport on order for this Sunday. Unfortunately they only had silver available and I needed a car soon😢 Still looks nice though and love the interior.
I have the new 2023 Accord Hybrid touring top trim in black and I love it! I really like this new mature look, I'm going to the gas station only once a month, and its such a smooth everyday ride! Great job Honda 👏🏻
@dennisswanberg1718 I work from home but this car saves you so much in gas. Most of my drives are in the city and I'm getting 42 - 43 mpg and a full tank gets you a little over 500 miles.
I recently purchased a 23 accord LX. The all digital gage display on the 23 accord is a major upgrade. It cleanly gives you a lot of information. My wife has a 22 RAV4 EX. The all digital gage display is much better.
Cannot go wrong with either. Both great cars, and reliable and quality built, and last forever if basic maintenance done. I.know have owned both and loved both.
@@Cakewalk. Not sure what that means, but if it's any consolation while driving down the highway at high speed in the Camry a hard plastic container flew off the car in front of me, slammed into the nose of the Camry and then the windshield at high velocity and then the moon roof, after checking for damage there was none ! Not even a mark anywhere but it sure made a loud bang when it hit the car. Pretty undestructable if you ask me.
I got a 2023 Accord EX. I’m getting under ideal and mainly Highway driving 42 to 43 mpg. I’m pretty amazed by it. Got about 6500 miles and it’s been consistent.
Camry all day!! Accord went backwards design wise to me. Sometimes it looks like a Malibu, other times a Taurus idk not a fan. Also no heated steering wheel?!
I checked the Xse hybrid and the Honda touring hybrid. Both were priced the same but the Honda at that price is offering the touring model. Just became a no brainer. And the interior with the touring is soo luxurious! If you blind fold someone and make them sit inside they won't even realize they're sitting in an accord lol
Even though I picked-up a 2.0T Accord, the V6 XSE does deliver it's power smoothly and predictably. The body and suspension will fail long before its power train will.
imo the 10th gen accord was much nicer. the only thing honda improved is the big screen. the fact that this is the previous gen camry being compared to the new gen accord and yet they're pretty similar when all said and done speaks volumes. I think the next gen camry will blow this accord out the water
All the awesome new tech we've been seeing in the recently launch Toyota/Lexus remodels are coming to this next gen Camry, which will be insane! Can't wait to check out the new gen!
@@mohammadkamran5862hat's how every battle is done. What do you expect? For them to compare the new accord to an imaginary 2025 Camry? To someone who is looking for a sedan today, this is the perfect comparison
I don’t know which packages are added to the Camry in comparison, but I went to the official Toyota website and for the price shown at the beginning of the video the driver assistant package is on it, the driver assistant package adds the HUD and the 360 camera system which is not available on the accord, another thing not available on the accord is a panoramic roof and AWD so the Camry wins in my book.
These guys got paid by honda. Read the honda forums and you will see people are shitting on it for keeping all the real features exclusive to the touring.
I own the XSE V6. Awesome car. Previously owned the Camry hybrid. Pleasantly surprised that I can get 32-33 mpg with the V6 when driven conservatively. AND, when you want it the V6 can really scoot.
My 2023 Camry XSE V6 fully loaded with 1,405 miles gets 19.7 MPG. Rather poor gas mileage. Drive 70 percent City and 30 percent Highway as rough estimates. Are you in ECO Mode all the time? I only use Normal. When I first started out in January was only getting 8.1 mpg. May have something to do with the Break-in-Period of a new car. I dislike 4-bangers, turbos, hybrids, and EVs. Maybe my next vehicle will be a 1960s to mid-1970s Classic with a V6 or V8. The Muscle and Sports Car era. The Camry is alright just don't like being close to the ground as sits at 5.7 ground clearance. All cars should be 6.7 inches or more. Also, need more Head Space ... my brother is 6'5" and needs to move seat all the way back and recline just to get in the car as mentioned it sits low.
Although I prefer the exterior looks of the Camry, the Accord has more standard features and has the overall best value for the money. It’s crazy that Toyota makes you subscribe for remote key start instead of free for life like the Accord. Also the Google based infotainment system in the Accord’s much larger screen is a *home-run* 💯.
Value for money? Have you seen the other trims? You literally can't get any of the features without going straight for the touring and its still missing features compared to the camry, like the panoramic sunroof, better sound system, and the v6 engine. The Base camry is even better value, because it starts at 2000$ less and comes with more standard options lmfao
@@singular9for me the interior blows the Camry out of the park. I don’t buy either of these cars for speed or exterior looks, I want fuel efficiency and a comfortable interior. After trying both, the Honda sport-L model was a lot better driving quality than the xse which was more expensive with less tech. It was a easy choice for me, plus the acceleration on the Honda was awesome when getting on highways compared to Camry. Picks up a lot quicker
The accord interior is definitely FAR superior to the Camry, mostly because of the fact that the Camry is still rocking an interior from 2018 and the accord has just been refreshed. That being said, the top V6 engine in the XSE is definitely better than the I-4 options, and the XLE would have likely been a fairer comparison to the accord touring. In terms of engines, toyota would probably win that. It really depends on what you're looking for. Honda doesn't have the ventilated seats that Toyota provides in the camry nor does really anyone at that price point. Honda is going digital with its display vs the analog in the camry, this also depends on how you look at it. Digital=futuristic or Digital=maintenance nightmare because its more difficult to replace. It really depends on what you want.
When it comes down too it they both are great cars. It honestly comes down to looks for the most part. There’s something out there for everyone. #signed a proud Lexus owner 😂😂😂. I personally like the previous generation accord design over this.
@@TeddyMitchell-e8i 18 Camry to a 19 Avalon xse hybrid also to a es350 Ultra Lux. I think the only reason I’d go back to a Toyota would be if they dropped a fully redesigned 4 runner as it looks good lol
Y’all i had the same energy in the Honda. but the more I looked at it, the more it grew on me, and yes the Honda has a sunroof, just depends on the trim level
Great video! I think a V6 Camry XSE could’ve been the better one to compare against the top trim Accord Touring, even if they had different engines, or, better yet, a Camry Hybrid XSE. Of course the Accord will have an advantage against the old Camry. It’s a newer generation. And even though the Camry would’ve been a slightly pricier, I would’ve chosen the options or packages to better align it with the accord. I had two Camry in the past, one 4 cylinder and one V6. Both excellent choices. I also had an V6 Accord, and along with the V6 Camry I had, they were two of the best vehicles I’ve ever purchased.
If the Camry had updated interior tech, it would be an easy decision. The naturally aspirated engine and 8-speed auto is a win in my book over the Accord. Hopefully Toyota updates the 2025 Camry to be on par tech wise, but keeps the powertrain. I'm afraid they will jump on the smaller engine with a turbo and a CVT bandwagon though.
Well, I have had the Accord EX for several months now. That one has the a turbo 1.5. It took a while to get used to the CVT, but it actually got better MPGs than advertised. I do not like the interior of the Camry. As a big guy, the center console looks awkward and made me feel cramped. The Accord feels roomy and spacious.
They’ll have what they have here now (we’ve been on it for a while). The Camry will have a hybrid 2.5l engine with a CVT. Same as the 2.0/cvt civic I just test drove. They fly down the road in sport mode. So the new Camry will have more horsepower.
So would everybody else. These Accord Hybrids have no Power. If I had to take one of them, I would take the Accord EX with the 1,5 turbo with 192hp/192lb torque and call it a day! Plus, it has a moonroof.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Problem with direct injection is the potential for carbon buildup over the lifetime ownership of the vehicle. Toyota's solution is to add port injection.
Feature parity? Honda: Worse sound system No panoramic sunroof No v6 No automatic gearbox Accord also STARTS at 2000$ higher than a base camry. Honda treats us like kids that don't know what to pick and upsells us all to the touring. The other trims are missing very key features.
I'm a die-hard Accord fan and owner. I owned a '98 Accord V6. It lasted me 24 years with very little issues. But, I always liked the Camry. For me now, the Camry looks a lot more sporty. This gen Accord looks too bland.
Just bought a 2023 Camry...... have owned Toyotas for 30 years and they've NEVER let me down.....not one problem. ...Hondas look nice but they are $ and from what I hear near impossible to find....we ordered our Camry at the end of Feb and picked it up on April 30th.....beautiful car
Although my first car was an ‘89 Camry, and my family has had Camry models since ‘85, I have to admit the only seemingly missed marks on the Honda are no higher output powertrain and no panoramic roof; otherwise the Honda beats out the Camry as dated as it looks now. - Great comparison as always.
After having done all the comparisons on my own I went with the Camry with the main reason with the Camry having real gauges combined with the 7 inch digital display. Also the touch screen on the Camry although not built in to the dash, as I would prefer, it is more integrated with the dash rather than sticking up on top of it, and of course I want nothing to do with EV, or Hybrid, which is why I went with the 2023 Camry instead of waiting for the 2024's which may have those features I just don't want.
The camry has more features than the accord at lower prices. Comparing fully loaded models is stupid since the camry lets you pick and chose what you want and make your own price.
Great choice mate. I own a gas 2020 Camry and that thing will still drive like new in 10 years like my 2007 did. With a hybrid, you would need a $5K-$6K battery replacement by that time.
@@andrewgus8763I’m considering à hybrid due to rising costs of gas and increased air travel restrictions. I plan on doing more road travel. As far as the battery needing replacement in 10 years. Start saving for the replacement.😊
Camry is better since it has V6. The Camry overall interior and exterior size maybe a tad smaller and that it has smaller Infotainment screen but you can get Wireless Car Play and Android Auto using Ottocast U2-X Pro. Camry cabin noise is lesser than Accord. Camry with V6 gives option for 2 tone exterior. Only one slight downfall for Camry is ground clearance of 5.7 inches vs 6.3 inches. But I'd rather have a V6 than a 4-Banger any day.
These automakers are complaining that people are moving away from sedans. When you price an Accord or a Camry at $40,000 it's not people moving away, it's the sedans moving away from people. If I had $40k, I'd buy a luxury car.
Nice comparison of the best sedan cars in the world. I would pick Camry with AWD capability as i'm living in the northern part of 🇨🇦, but the interior design of the accord is pretty darn good.
If you're not a car person and just want to go from point A to B with minimal issues, go with the Camry. If you're a driver and want more driving dynamics, cornering, handling, and a sportier car with great ergonomics, go with the Accord. Camry is for non-car people, Accords are for car people. That's basically it.
camry trd says otherwise lol, it has the sounds, handling, reliability, looks etc, accord fan girls just can’t accept that the camry is better in every way
@@UnknownUser-ff6wt TRD? lol That's just cosmetic dressup you fool. If you'd said the Corolla GR, I might've kept up a convo. Why do people who don't know anything about a topic try to comment? I hate motherfuckers like this...
I like the more grown up look of the Accord but I don't want a hybrid drive train or a CVT transmission. I live in MN so the fact that the Camry can be had in AWD is really nice.
Hybrid Accord vs Base Engine Gas Camry is a poor comparison. Compare a Camry LE to an Accord LX or a Hybrid Camry XLE to this Accord and that'd be a more honest comparison. Let it be known Honda only offers its base gas engine in the lowest of trim packages essentially forcing consumers into a Hybrid if they also want leather or upgraded audio. The Accord would still win based on rear cabin and trunk space and improved infotainment/tech. Ive test driven the new Accord and find it less sporty than the current Camry. The 2022 Accord handles better than both the new Accord and current Camry.
Looking at this video after the fact but I just got a touring hybrid accord saturday in all black and I love how it drives. I was coming from a gas guzzling Lincoln mkx and wanted something that felt premium but got way better mpg and so far I love it
Accord is starting to look more like a American design car the Camry still has the Japanese design. I like the accord tech but that ford exterior is 🤮🤮🤮🤮. Accord interior Camry exterior 👍🏻.
Camry over the Accord easily. Both are quality vehicles but I would take Toyotas larger standard motor over Honda's turbo 1.5L any day of the week. Plus, you can still get a buttery smooth V-6 with the Camry.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I hope audiences realize many of your points giving is subjective as some like more mature look and some more sporty with fake vents and sporty look but not really. I love my 2020 2.0T Accord more than both and I like new ones but would not look better...rather I would say I prefer some things or not. I've owned over 30 Honda/Acura products and realize you have to live with a Honda to appreciate it as fuel economy usually gets better while others get worse. Honda has always feel more sporty than Toyota and I trust engineering to go higher speed than Toyota especially in corners.
@Terry Tarbeck it is and my opinion better for environment than all electric vehicles. The Acura version will be out soon which I also have the RDX A SPEC, is awesome but horrible fuel economy unless you do lots of hwy at 120km per hr
I like it alot but fucking hate cvt transmission looks alot better than the camry from the interior and I even like the exterior more myself only thing is the cvt idc about the engine wanna save gas in a hybrid but it would be cool if they put a 2.0 turbo and a 10 speed. I'll buy one if they do add the 2.0 10 speed in this thing
You did a great job comparing both cars. Especially, for someone who never pays attention to cars until I need to buy one every 8 years:/ Thank you. Well done 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 It’s funny how so many in the comment section pay attention to detail of a car. Meanwhile, the only features that matter in my next purchase is panoramic sun roof ( absent, a deal breaker for any model I purchase). I’d like to buy a hybrid model to save on gas. I was thinking 💭 about a Tesla 3. I drive a lot. Eight years equals 16,000 in gas. I’d like to spend under 16,000 for a three year old car. Toyota lasts 300,000 miles while a Ford will last 200,000. My family had a brand new Ford Bronco which lasted well over 200,000 miles. I’d like a reliable car. Getting 100,000 more miles out of a car is more appealing to me cost wise. More importantly, I do not want to replace any parts. If I was a RU-vidr I’d purchase a Tesla , Infiniti, or a luxury model on warranty and trade in. I’m still trying to make the American 🇺🇸 Dream happen. Wish me 🍀 luck:)
Accord have gown good! Hybrid system is awesome on Honda nowadays. I looked at the new Accord and boom! Google,Alexa were cool! But kinda think Honda needs to bring back V6 engine for good. But in a way Honda is stepping down for new hydrogen idea which doesn’t sound great. RIP IVTEC
Honda took a HUGE step backward with this new Accord. I loved the 10th gen's giant front grill and aggressive stance because it was a HUGE middle finger to the Mid-sized, family sedan market. I was looking forward to the 11th gen keeping that sporty look. This redesign was a frickin' joke -- such a let-down.
I looked at both and settled on the Accord. However, I have to admit a large part of my decision was based on pass experience with the Accord and Lexus (Toyota). Yes, I know you can't compare a Lexus to either of the cars but Lexus is made by Toyota. My most recent car was a 2015 Honda Accord LX which I purchased new. I just sold it with 233,000 miles on it. Other than routine maintenance, I had NO repairs. Heck, I didn't need new brakes until about 120,000 miles! The Lexus I had was a 2013 ES300. If it hadn't been for the warranty I would have been stuck with some major bills (new starter, 2 power window motors, one new axle and some other minor repairs). Maybe I got a lemon, right? Anyway, so far I have 1800 miles on my new Accord and loving it!
I have a 2019 honda accord sport 1.5 liter - same with the maintenance mainly - i bought a new battery when it tested low after I left it on all night-then a minor air conditioning repair bill cost about $175 I got new brakes around 119,000 miles as well. I'm not considering buying another one-let my ex keep it but it was a great car! loved it
I was at my local Honda dealership to test drive the new Honda CRV but also tried the Honda Accord Sport which is hybrid. I have owned two Accords (1999 LX V6 and a 2007 EX V6 which I still am using) The 2023 model that I drove lacked any of the character that has made the Accord enjoyable. I was stunned really. The Honda Accord zip was totally absent. Honestly the Honda CRV EXL has the driving characteristics the Honda is known for. I can't address the Camry. We have a 2013 Camry LE which a good around town car just a little too soft. I think Honda blew it with these new Accords.
@@CarConfections this was at the beginning of the video must have been toward the end I stopped watched about half way through. I don’t think the Camry deserves the point for a blacked out roof. Design and anything that includes opinion based decisions should not be counted. It should entirely be objective point system. Not everyone has the same preferences when it comes to styling. On top of that you should of compared apples to apples hybrid to hybrid. Yeah the Camry offers a pano roof but only on full gas models not the hybrid.
Great video guys! I think for someone who wants a more “sporty” economy car I would get the Camry XSE or the TRD but if you want a car with great gas and a look that won’t age I would get the hybrid accord. I Know a lot of people aren’t fan of the new accord look but as time goes by, I think a lot of people will appreciate the new refresh!
I think your comparisons favored the honda with your point system. Not giving credit for the pluses of the Toyota as many times toward the honda. I've owned both but I still think your scoring still was fairly sound. The Toyota should have received a little higher score but not as high as the honda. My opinion of the new honda look has dimished from the last model
lol they gave points to Toyota at start of the video for “sportiness”. Honda specifically went to a mature look so no… they had to reach with Toyota, to try and keep you fan boys happy. Still not enough
Great video and very helpful for anyone in the market for a 2023 midsize sedan! I like the looks of the 2023 Accord, so much nicer than the previous years which fell well short. When I bought four years ago at the $27,000 price point the Camry SE was a much better choice over the Accord 1.5T Sport. Honda offered no factory options at that price point, including safety features like BSW and RCTW! And you got stuck with a CVT transmission plus the 1.5 liter engine with oil dilution problems. It was a $4500 upgrade to the 2.0T Sport and almost required to get needed options and the better engine and transmission. On the other hand, the $4400 upgrade from the Camry SE to the XSE was nice but not necessary since you already got the good engine and transmission plus options like BSW and RCTW, etc. in the SE unlike the 1.5T Sport. I hope in 2023 Honda has learned to offer important factory options in their lower trim levels but haven't looked since I'm not in the market right now since I'm still pleased with my 2019 Camry SE that has been trouble free.
I think the road the Accord was driven in made a difference. Pretty much most video reviews you see out there praise the Accord for being more quiet than the previous version.
Prices are ridiculous, I would not spend close to 40k for these cars, at that price point it's time for a SUV. I like the features on the Accord but the Camry style still rules, but i hate the Entune system.
😂 ToyoTAXI style sucks.. It’s like spirit-airlines, they get you in cheap then upsells you everything for monthly subscription at worst. The teribad part is it’s already boring, lame, bland made for the fleet car but the nerve to upsell you bells and whistle to get you the best parts of the car is the worst kind of crook ToyoTAXI business there is.
I went to a dealership earlier and gave Camry TRD 300hp a try. Bro it felt like driving a pickup truck that had a motor boat in the back with my regular 4 SE feeling smoother and faster. Are V6's like that too?
People buy these vehicles primarily for accommodating people. The rear sloping design of the Accord could be forgiven in the Civic 5-door but not for the Accord (unless Honda offered a 5-door variant in addition to a 4-door version). Both brothers are on the short side in terms of height. I suspect a 6 foot + person would appreciate the Toyota for rear seat comfort. In 2023, sedan manufacturers have to raise their game in order to retain buyers in this shrinking segment. It escapes me as to why a 5-door variant is a problem in America. People have changed and are accepting of 5-door sedans if the hatch is power operated. The trunk luxury but an old mindset. Ask Tesla, Mercedes, Audi, and BMW.
@Mike Bingham not really I drive a benz and a camry. I bought the camry for the reliability starts everytime bought it new and still yet to do anything to it besides oil change. Benz on the other hand I had lots of thing replaced. Still has featured the camry don't have but that reliability goes a long way
Available with a naturally aspirated, port and direct injected V6 along with a geared 8-speed automatic makes this comparison a complete no brainer. Camry is the clear winner. Honda essentially turned the Accord into disappointment on wheels.
In terms of styling and comfort, I choose the Toyota Camry. I've been fortunate to get an Uber ride in Camry models ranging within the last 2-3 years and all rides have been extremely quiet and comfortable. I own a 9th Gen Honda Accord Sedan (2014) and the OEM ride quality seemed to feel quite stiffer even on its 17" OEM tires and wheels. Honda has been going backwards on their Accord Exterior design and it has taken a huge nosedive since the 10th Gen and it continues unfortunately to head in that direction. The main design engineer or whoever is calling the shots at the top of the food chain is strongly advocating that whale-head type of design and standardizing the look in-line with the Honda Civic. The interior cabin is probably the positive point of the design but outside of that it just doesn't look that great. Whoever that guy is, he needs to step-down because it has no competition with Toyota's more sportier styling and appeal.
So true, I don't like the extended front end and the back keeps getting shorter as well. I prefer the large trunk space of my '07 Accord and sporty look of my 2017 👍
I think if you compared the hybrid xse camry vs hybrid accord then it would be more of a good comparison. Camry also had a option for smooth auto magic transmission in 4 cylinder or 6 cylinder
I have 2021 Honda Accord 2.0T. A blast to drive! Absolutely no issues at all. I prefer the styling on the 2021 over the 2023. Why pay for a smaller engine and bland styling?? My Honda dealership has been trying to buy my 2.0T back from me every time I go in for oil changes 😂. I’m not selling lol
Thanks, Drew. Must have been a lot of work in the editing dept. I thought the Touring Accord with laminated glass would be a bit quieter. Maybe it’s the tires or the e-CVT, although I heard the Touring gets better quality tires. maybe from Michelin. Anyway, prefer the styling and features of the Accord. My test drive will be soon. Should test drive the Tucson and the CX-50, as well. Maybe, you could compare those two?!
I don't know why, but Honda has been struggling with road noise issues for decades now. Consumer Reports listed it as one of their complaints on the a 1998 Accord (source: Consumer Reports CARS 1999). You would think after all this time, they would have figured it out.
We have bought 3 accords so far in past 10 years in our family. Latest one was 2018 model, we always go to Toyota for checking out Camry but always end up choosing accord and why? Accord just feels heavy when driving we love that feel steering is tight while camry is lose compared to accord second if a camry is gonna cost me same price as accord then I will definitely buy accord resale value of accord is higher after few years of use. None of this car gave all wheel drive option during the time we went to buy the cars. I would chose sienna over odyssey nowadays if I get a chance because it’s all wheel drive and it gives better mileage in hybrid system. It’s all about what you get otherwise both vehicle will last you a decade easy.