You guys should sue RU-vid for "adding context" by linking a Wikipedia article to The Sovereign citizen movement, which is basically considered a terrorist organization by the government. Have never seen this before but you obviously are not. This seems like the states way of cracking down on people who both know their rights and film the police while exercising them. Just my two cents. ✌️💯
@@qvalue9982 They are subtly implying that standing up for your rights makes you part of this movement. I don't know if it was intentional or not but that's the connection that is being conveyed by having that context bar directly under the video.
@@TomTom-du5qv it's most certainly intended and I would expect to start seeing it more and more under any videos that are critical of police interactions with non-violent citizens standing up for themselves while video recording the interaction.
UPDATE KIND OF: Hello again everyone. I have seen all of your inquiries about an update on my case. Unfortunately there has been nothing to report on since I last updated you. We are still waiting on a rulling from the 11th circuit. Patience is key here as it could take several more years for this case to be resolved. I appreciate all the love and support you all have shown me over the years. Rest assured we are still fighting
It’s cray that’s it’s taking this long . Too bad we don’t have laws in place stating that any law enforcement that break the laws And have lawsuits pending against them Will be suspended until all lawsuits are cleared. Then I bet the system would work a lot faster.
Officer: “We aren’t the ones who like writing tickets…. However, we are the ones who like to violate people’s rights and take them to jail for no reason.”
As many of you know, a federal judge stripped the pasco county sheriffs office of qualified immunity in the case of my illegal arrest in 2018. Rather than accept they were wrong, the sheriffs office exercised a provision of the law that allows law enforcement to immediately appeal the decision on a motion even before the lawsuit has concluded. This has allowed them to delay the lawsuit for yet year. But today is the day. The United States 11th circuit Court of appeals will hear their ridiculous appeal and, if they follow the law, strike it down and let my lawsuit finally continue. It has been 4 years since the pasco county sheriffs office illegally chained me up and threw me in a cage. The despicable way in which they have evaded taking responsibility for their misconduct is indicative of the fundamental problem with policing in America. Law enforcement is tasked with holding citizens accountable for their misdeeds. How can any citizen take law enforcement officers as anything but hypocrites when they (law enforcement) deploy every tactic possible to sidestep accountability for their own crimes. Hopefully today, the court of appeals will send a clear message to officers nation wide. "YOU ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR MISDEED. YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE."
I love that. POLICE are not above the law. POLICE will be held accountable. if that could somehow become the main message from the public to the officers, it would be a beautiful thing. Because you’re right, so often, most often, they are not held accountable. The hypocrisy of the system is maddening. If a citizen makes a “mistake“, they pay for it and arrest, fines, seizure and incarceration. If an officer makes a “mistake“, their consequences aren’t nearly as dire. I have most often seen verbal warnings, extra required sensitivity training and mandatory leave of absence WITH PAY. How is this fair? This forced hero-worship ideology has got to stop.
Please give us an update, can’t find anything online and I’m hoping everything resulted in your favor! Also, hoping your dad is OK. He seemed pretty rattled about this whole thing.
Thank you for pushing back on this! Most people give up. I was arrested for “obstruction “ because I was video tapping the police and they ended up breaking my knee. No charges were ever filed against me and I now have multiple lawyers wanting to take my case. They must feel good beating up a 50 yr old grandmother. I know it’ll take years but I want justice!
"Oh your going to play that game?" Says the cop. Which game is that? To literally follow the actual law? It shows how much the officers respect the law to call it "a game".
Yo Ata, much love on sharing my arrest. And I love that you took a pic from my west Africa tour for the thumbnail. So dope. Love the channel man. Keep up the fight
Keep excerscizing your rights brother. I know you love your pops and he's probably a good guy but bending over like that is not what we're trying to do anymore. Bending over is the exact reason cops got this bad with everyone (and have been worse to blacks for centuries). Drag their ass through the court system every time until they realize we're not to be trifled with. Civil rights violations make it easier to hit the cop's pockets directly. GET THAT MONEY!!!
"We just moved here last week.." Cop, "Sorry to hear that..." Yes, it sucks they moved to a place with such a sh!tty ignorant police dept! Hope they get what they deserve in court, however I'm sure nothing will happen to the officers and ao nothing will change
@@timblack1983 he did, but it's over a year later and nothing has happened. The police can wreck your life in an instant and it takes years of effort and expenses to get that rectified. It's ridiculous. Edit: the actual arrest was in 2018, so over three years later now
How about an F for the prosecutors as well, for insisting on pursuing such a baseless charge? As much as we gripe about bad cops, prosecutors need to be taken down a peg.
@@TheSupervillain316 In the UK (where I am based) the police don't make the decision, the prosecutors do (the Crown Prosecution Service). I believe it is different in the USA?
@@digitaurus that could be, I'm not exactly sure. I think if the police file charges it has to be almost irrefutable against it to have it move forward.
Prosecutor was trying to do some damage control for the sake of the county and the lawsuit that would follow. A prosecution would help on the lawsuit but seeing it was dropped (i’m sure for lack of probable cause), the lawsuit will be a slam dunk for the rapper. Plethora of case law from the Supreme Court to strip them of their Qualified Immunity
That was a great one, I’m glad he articulated his concerns so well, and I’m sorry he had to get cuffed and put in a cell to prove a point. I really hope he gets a large settlement from the sheriffs Dept. He deserves one !
Why would any police dept penalize such tactics? They WANT their officers to do shit like this....you cant luck into finding someone with an outstanding warrant if you dont force them to show ID.
Seriously, he should have just skipped asking for IDs and ordered them out of the car right away. Would’ve saved everyone some time to get to the inevitable conclusion.
@@jessmcafee2557 yep. It always goes to a parental-style scolding of “this wouldn’t have happened if you had just done what I asked of you.” (As knee drives deeper into neck/spine) The gaslighting and victim blaming from cops is always on point.
When they don't try to escalate a situation? cooperate let them take the ride nice and easy ,and then document everything ... then file a lawsuit... Ha hahahah... their stupid faces, and then but...but you said it was ok.... and i've replied ... Did i? because you've declared guilty the cop comes to court feeling like a million bucks totally unprepared...
It is mind blowing how long the state drags out these cases hoping for you to give up on it. Stay strong Andre! You deserve a hefty compensation for this joke of an arrest
I was thinking that the officer was playing the game. I don't understand what the issue is, if someone knows their rights. LEAVE THEM ALONE and do not escalate, you can not win every situation. Get your, "But i am a cop and you are gonna do as i say BOY" attitude ass out of here!
Yeah. They sound as if they're in high school -- and, frankly, don't look much older than that! Maybe they were out practicing traffic stops that night and thought they'd picked an easy target. The fact that they consulted a senior officer who was there and then threw in a narcotics search on top of a stop for a folded up paper license plate tells me they'd been sent out to get some "real experience" and were practicing on two Black men in a nice car.
That really made me mad as hell. I was also pissed off at his Dad for talking. I realize his Dad was just trying to avoid conflict, but still. Is it just me or are most the cops today just as stupid and ignorant of the law as they act. These must be some really simple minded little boys trying to act like men and failing miserably.
"We Fight As One" is Pasco County Sheriff's motto, that tells you something right there, they don't SERVE as one, they see citizens as adversaries and anyone who exercises their rights is "escalating" in their eyes.
Also: if one of them breaks the law, they will rally around to protect that individual. They don't uphold the law, they are a state sanctioned criminal organisation.
Literally in this case - they are facing another lawsuit for the sheriff's "Intelligence Department" which identifies people they believe are likely to commit future crimes based on their police record, and actively harass them _and their relatives,_ admitting their goal is to make their lives miserable.
@@1SCme ew that’s fucking disgusting?! WHAAAT?! What in the dystopian nightmare is that?! This isn’t Minority Report; you can’t “tell who’s going to commit a future crime”. How the fuck is that legal?!
@@topleftfromtime That's a nice analogy. I believe they are about to find out it isn't legal. They were looking to write citations for anything (grass too high, etc.), surrounding their home and questioning in the middle of the night for any crimes, etc. 4 people are filing suit, but if they're successful, I would expect everyone on the list to follow up with their own suits.
yea, its only an additional charge to accompany another initial charge. would never hold up in court and his competence would be questioned in cross examination.
Arrest is the tool they use for forcing compliance with unlawful orders. Most people will hand over their ID and move on. The sad thing is, there are rarely consequences for officers that do this. They arrest people and ask questions later.
Notice how the officer phrased it, "I am going to arrest you for resisting". And not for resisting "Arrest". The resisting the officer is talking about is this "boy" having the nerve to not drop his skivvies, bend over, lube up and do as I say. That is the resisting this highly decorated heroic POS is talking about and not the LAW. Its an everyday occasion in America, especially to those police think that don't know there rights. Oh, that color thing, it always comes into play.
Resisting a superior officer is different than resisting arrest. RSO is when you stop any emergency personnel (police, fire, medical, security, etc) from doing their duties with threats and/or violence.
@@angryhairpeice I'm aware. Except in the very beginning when the cop threatened to arrest him. The response was "for resisting arrest?" And the bit... I mean cop says yes. It wasn't until later where they still lied about him resisting an officer which still was not being done.
@Lackluster, did you notice the context bar under the video containing Wikipedia's definition of Sovereign Citizen Movement? I hope youtube isn't trying to suggest that standing up for your rights makes you part of this movement. Think about the implications of them doing this to all "auditing" channels. Whew.
You don't get "Resisting arrest" charge bud, he dosent have to be under arrest to resist arrest, lets say you get stopped by police and they TRY to arrest you, and you back away, that's resisting.
@@Irish-o2u but for them to arrest you must be under arrest? You can resist an officer without being under arrest, but you cant resist arrest unless you are getting charged
@@gr8oone007 this. Had son not pushed the issue they would all be home (albeit with son having to identify when he didn’t have to do so). Dad just didn’t want his time wasted.
This officer should be charged with official oppression! That officer was asked multiple times for his name and badge number and did everything he could to avoid answering this direct question and change the subject! Dismissed charges should be punishable by law with ZERO TOLERANCE to the arresting officer(s). This insane madness must stop! Its getting worse! This is leading to civil disobedience, resulting in the police defunding themselves. A citizens arrest against those officers unlawful threats and containment should be mandatory for all citizens to uphold.
@@TaylerJDust it is, according to the Freedom of Information Act all public Information must be provided immediately, verbally or in writing. There are exceptions if the government employee believes some of the information is protected. If so they should collect contact info and pass the request on to the proper department.
The officer might not get qualified immunity if it clear case of infringement of constitutional rights. Then it comes out of his pocket.. most times the city pays but always nice when cop has to pay. I would be happy with 100k from officer instead of 250k from the city knowing it comes out of his pocket :)
I never get in a car with someone who’s not on my level with constitutionally protected rights. I’ve seen too many wives and parents throw someone under the bus answering questions that they shouldn’t.
Hope the dad learned a lesson from his son. Complying with unlawful orders out of fear gets you nowhere. Bad cops are not your friends. You can lick boots all you want and it won’t help.
his dad comes from a time where he'd get the shit beat out of him for not complying. that is not a fair assessment of his father. everyone is a product of their time
For all we know his dad could have PTSD or other mental trauma from the old pigs back in the day. Though it's frustrating, especially since older people are usually really stubborn in old ways, it's also understandable why he's like that.
It sounds like they targeted someone with pockets deep enough to fight them tooth and nail for as long as they want to drag the case out. And all of their objections to having to put their money where their mouth is will probably be as fruitless as the prosecutor's objections to the dismissal of the charges that got them sued in the first place.
The father grew up in a time when LEO blatantly abused anyone who wasn’t compliant, and body cams weren’t a thing. Can’t really blame him, he just needs to be educated.
The father is 100% right. But so is his son. Neither individual was wrong side from the officer. The father just wants to go. Regardless of what's happening with his son. And he's right for doing that. The son wants to not have his rights violated. Regardless of what's happening with his father. The only problem in this entire situation, is the police officer.
@@mgtowdadRU-vidSucksCoxks Sorry, but the father is dead wrong. Just wanting to go is not grounds for willingly giving up someone else's rights. I understand why he did it but he's still wrong in this situation.
Having this recorded clearly reveals how officers are ignorant of the state and federal constitution. It would be expected any officer be well versed with the Stop and Identify law in Florida. This was a waste of time for the judge, state prosecutors office and the taxpayers.
That passenger could easily have an outstanding warrant. The officer can ask a passenger to identify themselves. The driver also can be held responsible for aiding and abetting a fugitive if that person is wanted for any crime. The passenger screwed up not the police. Slapping unconstitutional in it doesn’t really do anything.
@@mrbearder6373 You're so wrong it's sad. Do you like the police having unchecked powers? Look what happened here, an innocent man had to spend the night in jail. Is that a good thing in your eyes? What happens when the police decide that they want to arrest you for some BS, are you still going to have the same opinion? This guy did nothing legally wrong and he was still arrested. It can happen to anyone.
Yo ATA why replace my pic withe Takashi 69. I get it with the click bait thing, but damn, why him. C'mon man please dont associate my name with that dude.
@@drapetomania2156 I posted an update 6 hours ago on this video. Well sort of an update. Truth is there is not much more to update. We are just waiting on judges
Charges should not be allowed to be dropped when cops do this type of BS, instead it should be used as grounds for evidence tampering/filing a false police report and police should be punished accordingly
This man deserves a standing ovation 👏🏽 when you are willing to go to jail for your rights and taking this legal issue to the highest of courts and making changes for every human in the future.
"I know my rights, there's such a thing as the 4th amendment" Cop: "you want to play that game, I'll just take you to jail" Everytime someone knows their rights they can't stand it.
@@nimitz1739 honestly you where more independent in the "wild west days". You could get away with more like let's say expressing your American freedom to the law. Since there was no cameras
@@rexman971 When I said wild west I didn’t actually mean the late 1800s in the west. I meant back a few decades ago when cops didn’t have cameras watching their every move.
I was surrounded by Clay County Sheriff Officers for simply sitting on a bench. The thugs stood around me for about 20 minutes, mostly just staring at me, and interrigating me about why I don't want to identifiy myself. They ended up leaving with their tails between their legs. Traitors with badges is what they all are, especially in Florida.
A gang with guns and legal immunity tried intimidating you and suffered no consequences. What a waste of taxpayer funds. I'm sorry that happened to you, disgusting. I'm glad you walked away from that, not all have.
I’m gonna say this again and again. Every cops in this country needs psychological and human to human intracranial training throughout police academy, plus final exam by independent psychologist.
Couldn't agree more. They constantly say how dangerous their job is (it isn't even CLOSE to the top dangerous/deadly jobs, but I agree it's dangerous) yet as deadly as it is, plenty of GOOD, DECENT people apply.
@Future Pants well let me say i am born and live in the Netherlands where as a minority morrocan and let me tell you cops never pulled me over it just doesnt happen and when they do i get warnings because thats what cops do they are sweet people who dont mind letting something slide they never have a ego and those r@pe gangs where someting that happend in 2015 if i clearly remember in germany never had something like that in holland knifes are also not a big issue here like in the uk the good thing about not having guns here (well you can have one but it will cost you 3000 euro illegal mostly top criminals) is that the police is never nervous or scared when pulling someone over they’re soo extremely calm you would be amazed
Blue, Red, Black, White lines mean nothing it’s the laws we pass to allow this type of un checked power. That’s why I believe we should not have police only sheriff. Sherif are elected not police. We need reform in our laws to protect people. Not give your rights away. That is what has been done for 2 long.
The issue is having humans behind the badge. It can’t be helped but humans have flaws to varying degrees. It does need an overhaul but it should start by evaluating their emotional state. Humans are very easy to emotionally manipulate. Cops should be trained to prevent that. Other times, they lack sympathy. There’s just a lot of problems with cops and it starts with the top
I love how he never once tries to flex about his career in music, or his name.. seems like a humble dude, even knowing the circumstances of Wu Tang separating themselves from him. Wu Tang clan ain’t nothin to fuckk with!!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… why can’t the average citizen use ignorance of the law as an excuse, but when it comes to LEO’s ignorance of the law, they get qualified immunity?
The argument I believe is that their job exposes them to legal situations constantly and that it's not unreasonable for someone to occasionally make mistakes in their job. So given an honest mistake it is reasonable that the officer doesn't face personal liability. I don't really agree with it personally. Otherwise honest mistakes should be allowed for citizens as well. The problem is that it's also not just used for honest mistakes, but as a blanket protection for pretty much everything they do.
@@nic.h it sounds like something that should be applied in rare circumstances rather than a rule across the board. If an officer gets an unusual or hard to make call wrong you give immunity. It's the exception rather than the rule. That would seem more fair wouldn't it?
@@nic.h I agree with that statement 100%. Honest mistakes happen, we are all human. But a lot of cops lie, retaliate over a bruised ego, or straight up ignore simple law or facts, that have been on the books for decades. I don’t expect every LEO to know every law, but they should know the basics like when one might ID, like that police academy 101 stuff.
It was sad for me to hear his father’s instinct to submit to the officers demands while his son was standing up for their rights. Clear demonstration of the difference in their ages and past experiences. His father has grown up with the police’s abuse and having to submit to it where his son has grown up in an era in which we are becoming more knowledgeable about our rights and that we can challenge authority. I too commend his ability to remain calm but assertive and Hope he desecrates that department in his civil suit. This is what needs to be done if we’re ever going to clean up American law enforcement.
It is very sad. The father obviously knew police are likely to abuse power. People should definitely fight for their rights. Police need better education. And better systems for identifying individuals who are in violation of a crime. Honestly asking and demanding ID are 2 different things and asking may be ok for some and not ok for others. Police shouldn't be fishing for violations and people should have privacy. Personally, for me, I think everyone should just say who they are, let the police just document I feel that 5 minute interactions are not always adequate time in some situations to see if other crimes are involved. Who knows if someone in the car was carjacking and planning to murder the driver or vice versa. But, again, not at the risk of violating anyone's ability to maintain privacy.
@@jamesestelle7260 -Only fragile minds and egos, allow the media to influence them to the point of being irrational. Comment sections under most videos featuring a person of colour, is a testament to the the state of affairs in many parts of the US. With that stated, none of it is representative of the whole. Of note, is this incessant need to affiliate absolutely every action with political ideology. The US is imploding and is primed for outside invasions.
@@jamesestelle7260 The media has nothing to do with it and it honestly doesn’t have any bearing on how we act in situations with police. This is just a mentality that’s been taught to us by our parents and their parents cuz there wasn’t any response that ended well in these situations besides give up and hope they don’t ruin or end your life. And we didn’t need the media to tell us that stuff, black ppl have been living it and already know it. The fact that my parents were breathing during the civil rights movement is enough to know that it hasn’t been long enough for that mentality to change and I’m only 20 soon to hit 21. Just talking with my great grandma who was born in 1908 before she passed in 2013 was enough for 12 year old me to understand that.
@@Gem-n-life that comment was supposed to go somewhere else and had nothing to do with this video. My apologies. Your statements are correct, and this wasn't the place for that
Just being able to arrest someone on the basis of false assertions, or plausibly deniable misconduct (where a cop just wants to arrest a person and therefore pieces together reasons that are weak but pieced together “in good faith”), seems like too much power and too little consequences for wrongdoing. I hate that it has taken me 36 years of ignorance about this stuff, until it happened to me, in order for me to dedicate the rest of my life gathering ammunition against similar cops.
@@valentinius62 They need to be held accountable when they make a "mistake" like in this video. There needs to be serious consequences. They're supposed to be experts of the "law" otherwise they shouldn't be out there "enforcing" it right? If they make a mistake they should be held to a higher standard than normal people. They should have a good understanding of what the law is because they're the ones out there enforcing it. The consequences should be so high that they would be sure not to violate the law and other people's rights.
@@christiandruan There's too many laws for any one person to really know. Legislators give them the power of arrest on most of them. At any rate, the legal system will always tend to back them up, not us. The State doesn't like to be wrong...that is bad policy in their minds. They rely on the myth of the infallibility of the State to keep their positions and their power.
You're not alone. So many people have spent years being brainwashed into believing that cops are all officer friendly especially if you're not part of a minority group. Many people need to have a bad experience for it to happen.
What could _possibly_ be the rationale behind ID'ing a _passenger_ of a car in a traffic stop? What's the logic? If these police officers, presumably, don't go to random people on the street asking for their ID, why would they ask it for a _passenger_ of a car, who was not driving? By what logic? Seems to me like a pure power trip by the police officer. He ID's the passenger because he can. Because he loves to exert his authority over people and intimidate them. He gets kicks out of it. His ego gets a boost when he can order people around and show them who's in charge, and what their place in society is. Such police officers shouldn't have a badge.
Ok the law actually says the officer MAY detain drivers passengers. May?!? May is NOT the same as CAN! MAY means maybe. Can means will if they want. An I the only one seeing this?!?!??
I'm sorry, but to any of you that are white and calling that father a coward and crap, when you have not dealt with racial bias, when he obviously just wants his son safe and knows what can happen, you need to just be quiet, and that's the nicest way I can say it. You are not in a place where you can judge him.
The fact that the charges were dismissed over the objections of the prosecution is a little scary. That means the prosecution was perfectly willing to prosecute an innocent person, either by ignorance or outright racism.
or at least be able to get an idea of where any given law would be. (im not entirely sure if this is how it works, but arent most laws ordered by type?) as well as be forced to have a computer in their vehicles with every law that they can search up and be trained in how to search it. (since its human nature to forget some things, especially more obscure ones.) but if youre a patrol cop doing speeding etc, you should have to have those specific laws memorized
Laws constantly change, and there's a lot of them, so they always need to stay on top of laws and changes to laws. I agree they should know a whole lot more about how to conduct a legal traffic stop.
If they don’t like writing tickets then why do they need the passengers name? You don’t need a name to issue a verbal warning. And Pasco county always is looking for a way to arrest people on bs charges they know won’t stick hoping you plead out before they drop charges.
Officers are not required by law to tell you why they pulled you over, this has been addressed by ATA before. Please know the law before being incendiary
Why thank you, RU-vid, for adding "Context" about the Sovereign Citizen Movement, which has absolutely nothing to do with this video. This guy was 100% right to refuse to identify himself and the deputies were clearly on a fishing expedition.
A passenger is not required to give identification in response to that request. However, refusal to provide identification may allow the officer to expand the stop in order to determine whether that passenger or passengers poses a danger to their safety during the traffic stop.
That was messed up what his father did to him. He showed great weakness by telling the police officers his son's name. Instead of backing up his son 👎🏿
Lemme get this straight: the car was pulled over because of the license plate being obstructed one or another and lights being messed up, but later in the stop, one of the officer demands both the driver and passenger off the car for a narcotics search?? When did narcotics become part of the stop?? These officers have been violating the Fourth Amendment since the beginning of the stop.
To be fair, as shown in at least one other Audit the Audit vid, cops DO have the legal right/authority to conduct a random drug/dog search of the exterior of your vehicle pretty much any time they want. If memory serves the only caveat is they can't needlessly or excessively prolong the duration of the stop to do so i.e. cant make you sit there for an hour while they wait on the drug sniffing K-9 to show up. But you are 100% right on target for pointing out the absurdity of the drug seah. It is so blatantly obvious what happened here. The cops got mad that this dude wouldn't comply with their unlawful command and the drug search was a clearcut, undeniable attempt at vengeance.
Its also quite evident that the officers knew they would be making an arrest before they asked Mr Johnson and his father to step out of the vehicle and chose to 1. Escalate a minor stop into a fishing expedition for Narcotics or Weapons, and 2 use that escalation as a smokescreen to order Mr Johnson from the vehicle so they did not have to explain to Mr Johnson he was being placed under arrest before exiting the vehicle. I dont think this tactic would be legally actionable in court it certainly further exacerbates the distrust the community has in policing. Had Mr Johnson not been so calm and professional this could have ended disaster as its a bad idea not to let a person know the expectation of what will happen upon exiting the vehicle.
Mr. Johnson gets an A+ from me. I hope he strips these officers of their qualified immunity and makes an example of them. The system isn't going to change, but officers seeing other officers being held liable for misconduct is going to change how some of them behave. It's really the only option short of new legislation abolishing qualified immunity.
A huge lawsuit is the only way to stop these cops abusing their authority. The cops has to be held accountable for not knowing the law. I Hope these cops are fired or at the very least suspended and required to be retrained.
@@mysteryyyyyy Because the politicians run their city. They could get the cops to respect it's citizens and to follow the law to which each of them swore to uphold. Lots of things politicians could do to stop the abuse. If they don't, the citizens should not vote for them. What would you do?
Many Civil Rights lawsuits over the years have resulted in many monetary settlements. They usually don't get sued, and if they do, they rarely have to pay.
Dad is ole school and is used to bowing to police because he basically doesn't know his rights and frankly is terrified. Elders have seen horrible things happen to law abiding citizens...
Imagine if medical malpractice didn’t exist and doctors could just go around, killing their patients and then saying “oh well, I know more about medicine than you so if you died, it’s not because of my incompetence.”
@@officerfuzz5-050 given how much legal precedent has granted leniency when cops blatantly abuse or misuse their authority, often to the detriment of their victims, there’s a lot of lawyers who’d love to talk to you more about your assertion. I know it’s sad that the era of unchecked police egos and lack of responsibility, oversight, and accountability is swiftly coming to an end, but that’s progress. The police state is crumbling and I’ll make the popcorn.
I love how he is shining the lights at the camera so people cant see him since he is being recorded if u were doing your job right u wouldnt be afraid of being recorded
9:38 "Have we done anything wrong sir?" You mean, other than illegally demand my identification, accuse me of "playing games" when I assert my foundational civil rights against unreasonable search and seizure, then threaten me and my elderly veteran father with jail if I don't comply with said illegal commands? No. Not a thing.
So if I am in an UBER as passenger and the driver gets pulled over, I am legally obligated to stay in the car because I am suspect in crime? What a fkn joke.
I have seen a video of this situation, and the passengers got out and walked away. They did it as soon as they pulled in to a car park for the stop. Might have been a audit the audit video, but was a fair while ago, so can't remember the details.
WOW this one escalated quickly, I was jaw dropped shocked when he was arrested after getting out of the vehicle. They straight up used a bullshit excuse to get him out of the vehicle just so they could arrest him easier. Not fucking cool.
I just wanted to point out that on my end, RU-vid has "Context" under your video pointing out wikipedia's definition of Sovereign citizen movement. Almost implying that standing up for your rights is related to this movement.
I submitted feedback on it... I'd suggest everyone do the same... the sovereign citizen movement is something else entirely, perhaps a tiny bit of overlap... generally speaking, auditors believe laws apply to them while Sovereign citizens believe themselves exempt from us law (illogically)...
What sucks the most, is i literally just watched a video of yours where the guy did the exact same thing, didnt show id, and the cop physically ripped him out of the vehicle, but in that state the cop was right, so you gave him a C. THE EXACT SAME CONDUCT. This is what is wrong. In another state, this cop would have been right. But in this particular video, that states laws dont require id. In any altercation, neither the cop, NOR the victim know exactly what the laws are. And sadly enough, essentially whatever the cop says, goes. Because look at how long this has still drug out. There is no true justice. We live in a police state.
aeway, I hear you and you have a point. But in this instance, the deputies were well within their authority to identify the passenger as established in the legal guidelines of the 2020-2021 edition of Florida Criminal Law and Motor Vehicle Manual (see section “Automobiles” and subsection “Treatment of Passengers”. Identifying passengers in the State of Florida is also well established by case law (Bratcher vs State, 1999). The subject case could have been dismissed based on ANY technicality, not necessarily procedure. ATA does some things well, but everyone has an agenda. ATA conveniently cite only portions of a statute to fit the narrative they want to convey - that too is also misleading if not wholly disingenuous. For what it’s worth, as a cop I probably wouldn’t have arrested the passenger as a matter of discretion. In fact, I probably wouldn't have asked the passenger for his ID unless he interjected himself into my investigation or I discovered something else that required me to ID him.
@@lc3507 Ummm... Bratcher vs State doesn't exactly fit the same criteria as this traffic stop did... BUT... you go ahead and keep requiring passengers to show ID when they have done nothing more than sat in the passenger seat on a traffic stop and very soon you might be named in a lawsuit.
@@dezzyd1 ummm, the FLORIDA LEGAL GUIDELINES cited that case…not me. If you would’ve taken the time to educate yourself on the matter you would have known that. But, I know you got it all figured out. Take care….
@@lc3507 Ok... cool. Someone in Florida published a legal guideline and that's not going to be your saving grace when you violate someone's constitutional rights. How long have you been a LEO? Less than 5 years now? Do your own research before you rely on someone else's misguided "legal publication". "They" won't protect you in federal court. Merry Christmas and stay safe rook.
@@dezzyd1 To your point the legal guidelines are just that…guidelines. But, there is a reason this stuff is taught in the academy and reiterated in FTO. That’s why there is good faith doctrine and qualified immunity that if we make a mistake (after all we are human), but were acting in good faith and can articulate the totality of circumstances, then LEOs should be fine. Not sure if you’re a LEO (or formerly a LEO) or not, but nonetheless take care and Merry Christmas.
Love cops who want you to give up your rights just to “make things easier”. So sick of these cops that think they are angels sent from the heavens rule over us.
Officers enjoy breaking the law because the subject was burdened by a night in jail (even if dismissed the next day). That is worth it for the officers ego when their authority is challenged.
They Know the law , they simply don't care, After all its the tax payers that pay for the lying pigs actions. Why would they stop abusing us? This is what happens , when you give a gun and qualified immunity ,to someone who pays no price for being wrong. It's like someone that works at McDonalds that keeps giving customers the wrong order , over and over again , yet keeps his job... And WE pay for it. That's some crazy shit.
From what I gather, they were considered to be in the commission of, or about to commit a crime, by default. Further evidence by the fact that the cop apologized to the driver when he told them he just moved there. Clearly, the cops were trying to make it be known that certain demographic factors would be immediately considered suspicious activity worthy of probable cause and this requiring the passenger to identify. I’m just curious why they didn’t come out and say what the REAL cause for their reasonable suspicion that would require the passenger to identify was 🤔
I've watched thousands of these cop videos..One thing I've noticed in all of them is when citizens try and talk rights and laws the police ignore them,..talk over them ,.or scoff at the citizen
How this should've gone: "Sir, may I see your ID?" "No, I'm not operating the vehicle and you do not suspect me of commiting a crime." "Okay, get those rear lights fixed, have a good night gentlemen."
Instead it’s like. “Oh we neeed to know who you are, we want and will violate your rights if you toy to use them and go to jail, do not pass go or collect $200!”
In today's day and age and officer who claims to be "ill informed" of ID rules, regs, laws and more importantly Constitutional rights are at worst an outright lie which should require termination or at best true ignorance, which also, should require termination. Just wondering, how many more of these videos need to come out before our government takes action?
"Just do what I tell you to do because I have a badge and gun. My ego is very fragile and when I'm not obeyed, I get upset and will then allow my feelings to dictate how effectively I do my job".
