I got the P1 V2 which is the cheapest wheel….with a 8nm base. and I love it! It is 20 mm wider than the Moza cheapest rim, and it makes a huge difference. The rubber grip on the Fanatec wheel is good, so if u are in between a Moza or Fanatec, look at the wheel size. I have not tried the Moza 28cm wheel btw, I just know it is too small for what I want. The upgrade of the V3 pedals was in my best upgrade, so delighted with those. From someone who used to race , with modest wins in one make series……those V3 pedals were the biggest upgrade, and I see no need to upgrade these pedals. Or the 8 nm base either……they are my final upgrade
MOZA is hot garbage and is going to ruin the market by forcing manufacturers to cut costs and build low quality shite like fkng Moza. Behringer did the same thing to the recording studio equipment market. Quality over price, all day.
No I'm in Turkey.. I'm happily using the wheel. It's solid and reliable. If someting happens bad, I'm free to send it to germany to get fixed. It's same even you live in uk
@@Amcoglu Hi, im also from Turkey and planning to buy the fanatec bundle from their website, can you tell me how much customs tax you paid? Stuff on the internet i found regarding customs tax goes from tens of thousands of liras to around two thousand, so im a little confused.
I will change to DD in the future, currently running a Thrustmaster T300RS because I wanted the clutch pedal, I plan to do drifting alongside the regular track racing. Getting an H-shifter and a hydro at some point. I've been hearing for years that Fanatec is the G.O.A.T. when it comes to sim rigs. Glad to see that this is changing, because more competition means better options and prices for consumers in the long run
I got simagic recently and it's pretty goood. I'd recommend over 9nm. If you are gonna spend that much. Might as well spend a bit more so you save yourself some ffb clipping and heat. Even if you dont use all 12nm. You'll have some headroom
@@fs5490asetek is over 90% more expensive. You can’t toss in a thousand dollar direct drive that includes NO wheel and NO peddles. Asetek is GARBAGE because of the price. Your elite mindset is not welcome on an entry level price point.
Going with an entry level fanatec was the worst decision I made in the beginning my sim race journey. Its a flawed design, as the USB data connection within the shaft often slips and disconnects. (requiring a torque wrench to properly reseat and tighten - which is only a temp fix). Plus their customer service is horrible, taking forever to respond and get return process started. I bit the bullet and just went with Simucube 2 Pro, so I’d never have to buy another wheelbase again (probably last the rest of my life)
A guy in a tux told me that the black helicopters really were following me and that I should wear a ghillie suit when I go grocery shopping. Best advice I ever got.
I finally went DD with this deal on Monday of this week. Getting it in next week. I did the BMW wheel (essentially the same wheel as the P1v2 but a bit flashier) for the same price. I was going for the Cammus C5 initially on the same day, and the price for both the C5 and a set of pedals was only $299US, $329 with a desk clamp. What stopped me was the hideous shipping charges Cammus was charging from China to NYC, NY---$114 (!!!) bumping the price to a whopping $443....no deal there at all. The Fanatec ended up only costing me $525 total delivered and I get the option of going from 5Nm to 8Nm, different steering wheel/pedal options, etc. It's just a better ecosystem to do this with. No regrets at all.
@@bmwm3man I got it in and after a few days of figuring all the settings out on various games (AC.ACC, Dirt Rally, Dirt Rally 2.0, etc.) I can say that I like it but at the 5Nm I'm using atm don't feel it to be a massive improvement over my Thrustmaster T-300...guess I really like belt drive more than I'd like to admit. Maybe after going to the 8Nm power supply (I'll wait for a sale on that one, $150US is pathetic for a power supply!) it'll change for the better. But I'm content for now, definitely worth the money for sure.
If only they could negotiate with Sony and MS to get all compatibility with both console into the wheelbase too so that rims would just be rims it would be perfect. A dream I know, but hope springs eternal.
@oortcloud210 If you buy the ps4/5 dd base, all you need is a xbox compatible wheel and it will work. I bought the gt7 bundle and I also bought the McClarren wheel for 199.00, so I can race on PC, XBox series x, and my Ps5.
Totally agree. If they made them to be used by all, alot more of everything would sell. But marketing and rights kill it all. I suppose its a way to possibly keep prices up, which is usually illegal, but its still marketing
@@iyadkamhiyeh527 nah. Im happy as it is. Just bought the base alone since i have v3 pedals. Not interested in the cls wheel and pedals. But could have sold thatbto somebody else. ;)
Table racers have to pay $30USD for the table clamp. Fanatec removed the clamp from the bundles probably because some folks have cockpits or stands and don't want to be forced to buy a bundle that has a desk clamp
I agree. i got a t300 2 years ago, which I would use with the table clamp, and I finally got a basic wheel stand recently and I'm rediscovering my wheel. the table is something you'd only use if that is your only option
I got the DD Pro bundle for the PS5. It cost me almost $700 with the shipping. The wheel is way better than the thrustmaster t248, but the pedals leave much to be desired. I actually prefer the pedals that came with my t248 since the brake has actual springs rather than a soft piece of foam. Gonna have to save up for the load cell kit.
fanatec might be better, but shipping is a nightmare. I can just walk into a big store in canada (canada computers or memory express), and buy a g920 off the shelf, or its TM competitor. The only DD i saw was the moza r5 bundle. It costs 524 CAD after conversion rates, plus you have to pay duties because fanatec doesnt have any official suppliers in canada (or at least ontario). Or you could go to a sim store and pay 350 cad for a mclaren gt3 racing wheel. I heard upwards of 900 CAD for a 8mn csl (they dont sell the 5). Just imagine when the wheel breaks. Just imagine the pain to ship it back to fanatec and get a replacement. Not fun. Good price though.
Well it’s a European brand, of course you’ll have an easier time to find an American brand like TM or a global powerhouse like Logitech. It’s your decision after all, the best sim engineering comes from Europe, it costs money to ship all of it and the duties are not their fault. They are also smaller specialized companies, you can’t find them in normal stores in Europe either, don’t go to a regular store when you need high quality gear in any niche
@@GranadaFelish It's American, founded 1990 in Oregon. It was just acquired by a French parent company, but still operating from Oregon to this day. It's like saying Skoda or Lamborghini is German just because it's part of the Volkswagen Group.
@@drchtct TM might be originally from Oregon, but it was bought in 1999 before even making sim racing stuff (they started making joysticks for flight games). It's HQ is in France. Doesn't matter where it was originally from, the HQ is in France and the point was that the stuff is exported from Europe. Difference is that TM, just like Logitech is a powerhouse in terms of logistics compared to Fanatec. Even though Fanatec is much larger than a company like Moza, they are not present in any point of the globe, especially because their stuff is not cheap from the get go
i bought the ccl dd with 5nm 2 month ago, works fine with the lite quick release, but with the upgrade to 8nm i highly recommended to buy the expensive QR1 wheel side clubsport for 100€. After the uprade i had many issues with the lite release, it feels lose and 1 time i had a disconnect during the race (and i don't use the full tork, i believe if i did it would have breaked the adaptor). The clubsport quick release changed the feeling complete, now it feels like the wheel is really connected to the base. Beware of these costs if u buy this bundle and think its easily upgradeable.
@@rakimaje8433 wow okay, i have the same wheel...good to know that it could be different. i had such a bad experience with the lite release, it feels like every corner could be the last for this peace of ***** plastic...
@@hgpichel1989 i thought it was only me!! having a defecive unit, i had the same experience. i put a piece of cloth between the QR1 lite and the base and now the wheel is firmly connected to the base! with no sloppy movements whatsoever no more weird shaking and crackling noises
Nope. Thrustmaster and Logitech both work on this thing called a Playstation. Fanatec only sells a much more expensive set for it. They aren't doing anything to anyone. They're just trying to stay alive with Moza cutting deep into their market share.
Given that my CSL wheel failed for no reason, and also the plastic broke on the wheels because of poor build quality, I'm going to say, 'pass' I spent my money, so you don't have to.
Good to hear this, but still in my country isn't a viable option right now (unless you have deep pockets). Also, having no support in my country is a deal breaker because if something happens, you have to buy a new one. So, I gonna keep my G29 wheel for a long time.
Its getting cheaper because it breaks… dont bite the hook. The Quick Release is expensive and they sell you even a screw plus shipping for that single screw… or a PS for the 8NM Mode… for another 150 USD plus Shipping. I went for the Logitech, absolut high end product.
I'm very disappointed with my Fanatec Gran Turismo DD Pro bundle. My wheel base went up in smoke a month after buying it. Can only speak with support via email and they are in Europe so a day passes between messages. They replaced the wheel base and booster kit but now the pedals don't work. For what I paid, I'd expect a more reliable product and more responsive customer care.
I have never had anything Fanatec die on me, and I have been using their products almost 5 years. And I have the same DD pro bundle, but I use my elite pedals with load cell, from my previous setup. So you sir are probably an anomaly. And the fact that their customer service was excellent by your own admission. Lots of company are not stationed in the US, so that is not extraordinary or nothing.
@@gertinewoord1887 yep. I'm really upset. Spent about $1,000 on new gear to "upgrade" and I've only gotten about a motnh's use. Right now it's all on its way back to Fanatec for the 2nd time b
out-of-the-box console compatibility still a pretty strong argument for Logitech/Thrustmaster as an entry-level wheel if you can get them sub-$250, but I will say as someone who has finally gotten the hang of driving with a Logitech, a $400 price is probably one I'll be willing to pay for an upgrade in the next couple of years
DD is the way to go, believe me. Coming from a CSL Elite wheel bundle, that I purchased several years ago. I bought the gt7 combo with the McClaren GT wheel, and I can race on pc, xbox, and ps5.
I just bought the Logitech g923 with the shifter new for $100 less then the fanatec bundle. If I’m not too deep into sim racing and I just wanna play casually on a budget, is it really worth upgrading?
For fuck sake no. Use it , gain some experience, if you are okay with it keep it. If nah sell it and buy the fanatec, not that huge of a deal. You can also consider Moza steering wheel + bases, cause the wheels are aluminum and not plastic like fanatec. But I would recommend going for the CSL v2 pedals of fanatec, as I know moza 's pedals sucks.
400$, with the CSLDD base (great), with the most basic wheel of fanatec (only 14 buttons against 20 on the G923 and also G923 has a wheel switch and worst grip than G923), with the most basic fanatec pedals and no clutch (you'll have to spend 40$ more for the clutch, the peddals are same level than logitech ones, even a bit better) and no shifter (G923 bundles with shifter are arround 380$, and fanatec only offers one shifter that costs over 250$, which is ultimately the best shifter in the market but still expensive). So you're comparing a 400$ bundle that only offers better base, and in the rest it lacks of it or is the same quality than logitech, and yes you can upgrade, but fanatec still to expensive to be a friendly begginer ecosistem. I play rally games like dirt 2.0 as well as the F1 games, GT7 and asseto corsa, but I need a shifter for rally, and If I had to start on the fanatec ecosystem I would have spent at least with this bundle arround 700$ because of the shifter and the clutch pedal, and I will have a worse wheel. So I do not think this killed logitech, but I think It will make logitech lower their prices which will be a very good thing for sim racers.
400$ for that is crazy, fanatec doesnt even seem to be shipping orders or their products dont last more than 2 months, ill keep my blender sounding steering wheel and my clutch thanks Also keep in mind this guy is connected to them, so dont take his opinion as 100% accurate and come to your own conclusion.
I'm not gonna lie mate but not everybody who has a wheel wants to go direct drive. I have a g29 and it is perfect in my room, gives me a good enough experience, isn't too powerful, it's so reliable it's unreal and it does what I want it to do. The idea that everyone who loves simulation driving games only don't go the direct drive route because of cost is an error in my eyes...
I wouldn't say destroyed as you still don't get the full package like Logitech.... Imo I'd like a clutch pedal of the bat yes I get fanetec is a superior wheel but if your going to put a product into lower end market area it needs to meet the same criteria imo however it sill is value for money....
Moza has r5 bundle with a better wheel built in quick release. And a cheap brake improvement and clutch. And a table mount with the bundle. Moza is just better I think
Seems like they changed the prices, cause just the base is $450 for me, or $799 with wheel and pedals. edit: im stupid, its $399, if Icheck the right bundle.
It's a weird position now, because according to their website if I want to buy just the base it's 500 for the base + boost thingy to have 8nm. But it's 500 as well if I want to have the pedals, wheel, and all of that combined. Wtf For me it's stupid because I have the clubsport V3s and I would have to spend more to get just the base. They should decrease the price of the stand alone base to like 299. Otherwise it makes no sense if you already have any other part
too bad my I bought my Direct Drive and CSL Universal hub (whose shifters broke and Fanatec has failed to provide any support for) before this bundle dropped
I'm considering buying a wheel and maybe i'll settle for this bundle, I've had a lot of fun playing assetto corsa but only with a controller, and since i'm considering doing my first racing set up i couldn't help but notice you were driving on a office chair, which has wheels, how did you do it? did you buy wheel stoppers took the feet off, or did something else enterily? did you think that upgrading to a stationary chair is a must have or can an office chair be good enough for a while?
@@driderv53 Because I'm A Simagic FanBoy. Also, If I was thinking of entering the now DD sim wheel rabbit hole, I wouldn't start at the entry level. It's a slipperly slop to wanting more, and you will feel the need to upgrade sooner rather than later.
im terrified of ordering on fanatec rn, nobody seems to have it flawless, most dont receive their orders, and IF they get them finally, they are damaged. 500 is a lot for me, for that price i guess i'll go for moza then
... and now they in big trouble and can't deliver stuff timely. Long delays, especially now after black friday/week. Logistics and tracking is a mess. Their forum is on fire with so many mad customers waiting. Some even think the company behind it is in much bigger financial troubles etc. Everyone is nervous, not much or no communication at all from the company. Hope they can withstand these troubles without a bigger shitstorm.
I actually hate that I bought a Simagic setup ~a month ago when I was pondering my options. The 100€ price drop would definitely have pushed me to Fanatec.
@@fabienlarvor8283so much more worth it. There’s so many horror stories out there about Fanatec bad customer service. I def would rather go with the simagic
Simagic mini 10 times better than fanatec dd pro. Simagic got top top steering wheels, when fanatec steering wheel is cheap like Logitech g29. Simagic got better QR, and more powerful wheelbase. Even If I had to chouse between simagic mini and fanatec dd with this price I would still go for simagic. Fanatec nowadays can only make old overpriced stuff. They didn't release anything new for almost 2 years already. Only promises. And they still have their sht QR and can't release qr2 for like 2 years already. Meanwhile simagic or moza just took qr from real cars and have 0 problems with it.
No console support = HUGE missed opportunity. I would order one tomorrow, if it supported PS4/PS5. As it is, I already have a G923, that works on my console, or my PC. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to upgrade, when I can only use it on PC.
Blame Sony for the licensing fees lol, Sony sells a cheap console and then you pay extra for literally everything, starting with online play, to games and even peripherals. It’s their business model. Logitech and TM can offset that because they sell in higher quantities but then you get cheap quality wheels as well
@@purplehazeffcthis is only true for Xbox but fundamentally wrong for PS. This base can NOT be made compatible to PS no matter which wheel you attach because for PS you need a security Chip in the BASE and not the wheel!!!
thank you, i'll go for the 550€ bundle (5nm + mclaren wheel + table clamp), i don't want to spend too much money, if i listened to others, i'm imeddiately spending 300€ more on LC pedals and boost kit, i dont think i need that as a newbie who has never owned a wheel... btw for comparison, in my country g29 can be had for around 250€, i rather spend 2x that and have a proper setup
I just ordered the 8nm and was planning to use it on my desk due to lack of space for a full sim setup, but I didn’t realise the desk clamp was so janky… hopefully it’ll be fine if I stay away from drifting
@@dexterr727 I think you’ll be alright, I haven’t had any problems with mine yet. Just really tighten it and make sure the rubber stoppers on the underside of the desk are flat
Well now I just have to wait 50 day. I wanted to buy it when it was still in stock, buy didn't have the money yet. Now I have the money, but it's out of stock. Love it.
I wish this would have happened sooner ! Cammus is at least interesting . They should throw a loadcell in if it's actually "ready2Race" . Thx Unrelated to review- When Shutoko came out , a while back now , every since then Content Manager hasn't been the same .
@@Traumglanz cammus is worse than fanatec in everything, worst pedals, the shifters are worse than 100$ wheels, it overheats really quickly, its wheel diameter makes it "toyish" and no changing it option, no clutch pedal option or load cell for braking (so you have to spend 200$ more in the fanatec pedals or the tlcm ones) and shipping cost is more than 100$ making it cost the same as the fanatec ready 2 race bundle, so why to buy it.
I paid 850 for my logitech g pro on sale and is worth every penny. When i rev my car my gt omega titan vibrates just like the feeling when revving a real car when playing dirt rally 2.0 I love my wheel the truforce is something else.
Im considering buying this, I have the csl elite v2 pedals already and it would come cheaper to buy this bundle with pedals included than buying the wheel and the base separately
Fanatec dd pro is great. Just got it recently. But I can't seem to get center detail. The powersteering kicks in on brake load or suspension load in forza horizon 5. Kinda causing my nerves in my arms to tense up. After I'm done playing it kinda feels tingly etc. Anyone else have this problem?
@@driderv53 I'll Try. I feel the wheel is better in h 4 but h5 has more settings. Also when u go to advanced in the wheel the presets u had dissappear. Strange. How do u even save and lock?
im currently planning on replacing my g29. its been good but its way too loud and not great tbh. ik it wont be worth much but i already have a bit of money left around.
lol, Fanatec felt the hit from Moza. The R5 upped the game. This is what's great about competition in the space. MOZA still looks to be easier to get from a shipping standpoint and overall availability. The fanatec models seem to be out of stock for upwards of 5 months at a time. Expect the same to happen here .
Moza is not the reason, that is for sure. Their wheels bring their cost up to or beyond Fanatec pricing, not to mention the limited selection. I could have bought any wheel from any manufacturer I chose, regardless of cost, and I chose Fanatec. Because they are the wheel for most people at most cost levels.
im still using my g27 xD my next upgrade will be vr and new gpu. i doubt it'd make me that much faster just feel better? this does look nice, but atm playing a 34inch single monitor, its not the wheel thats holding me back.
Wheel prob won't make you faster, but it makes you feel more detail, so it's easier to save the car. That said, new pedals (especially with load cell) can def make you faster
I need advice please guys should i go for the Fanatec CSL DD 5nm without loadcell pedals, Thrustmaster T300 ferrari 599x evo edition, or Thrustmaster T248? Thanks I will read all responses. I have never owned a wheel and im super into racing games. My budget is about £400/$500/€460
