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This isn't the birth of Vader, that happened earlier in the movie when he turned to the dark side. This is Vader being put in the suit, Vader isn't the suit, the person is
"It seems in your anger *you* killed her." Palpatine's last masterful manipulation to sever the last bit of light and hope he had. Whether it was true or not didn't matter, as long as Vader believed it. Until the day he died Vader would think he wasn't good enough
What gets me in the feels is how despite the agony of his injuries and the surgeries, the first thing Vader expressed was concern for his wife. Despite everything, he loved her. And finding out she died, despite his desperate efforts to prevent this, and the last memory he has is choking her, causes him even more pain than the fire ever did.
And at Anakin's death, there isn't much relief because he has the memories of trying to turn his son to the dark side and threatening to do the same to his daughter.
This sequence shows that if you remove the prosthetics and armor, then Vader is a quadruple amputee on a respirator suffering from 3rd and 4th-degree burns. He didn't wear that suit to simply look intimidating, he needed it to survive.
Palpating could have placed him in a more mobile and up to date if it was necessary. He could have healed from some if not most of his wounds, but he purposefully had him undergo an outdated healing procedure so that he’d feel the pain, which would fuel his anger thereby making him the ultimate sith.
@@danielphendarko2651 he had a ton of different versions of the suit though, he was able to survive while the suit was broken or something thanks to his skill with the force. There's a comic where the entire suit and it's funcionalities are shut down for a few minutes and he only relies on the force to survive. Although of course, he can't do it for a long time.
I remember the First moments of the movies, with the Battle of Coruscant, man everybody was clapping, hallowing, screaming like crazy, all the cinema went berserk when the two Jedi Starfighter arrive in scene and I managed to get from a friend the novel a week or two before the movie came out, man that intro of Matthew Stover.
They always do its his most iconic line exept the (i am your father) thing when ever they hear it the hype goes up and we have sen it in fallen order and kenobi trailer
@@Luzhong_editz Why the hell shouldn't they? People grew up with the original trilogy and that breathing sound is classic. It brought the story full circle and there's a reason people get chills during that scene. Just because he's the bad guy, doesn't mean it isn't badass to finally see his origin story.
Fingers crossed if he is possibly doing the voice of Vader in the Kenobi series one last time. If not, and Hayden does it, I’m also looking forward to that.
@@callistahobbswe discussed it in my audio production class, they used something of a “vocal deepfake” on Hayden. The technology is so cool but only as effective as the actor behind it. Hayden definitely delivered in his Vader performance inside and out
It’s an amazing cinematic sequence. Darth Vader is one of the best villains ever, and one of the most intimidating bad-asses in his galaxy, but he’s also a deeply tragic figure when you start to read into his story.
for everyone who hasn't, read, "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader". Anakin's first days as Darth Vader. opens with how being in the suit, the things the med droids did to repair his eyesight and hearing, how they replaced his severed limbs, the design of the suit, the needles that inject into his head whenever the helmet goes on. an endless, torturous existence, until he's able to fully embrace the Dark Side.
Its funny how it ain't the theme of dark vader that has everyone giddy. But the first breath. The breath that made fans of the original trilogy panic in anticipation of what his presence ment. Only a few villians in cinema has that level of anticaption and recognition. It's quite stunning.
In Matthew Stover’s novelization, Palpatine’s ability to create life (Anakin had no biological father) or to prevent one from dying (as mentioned to Anakin in the theater) comes at a cost. Where life is given, it must first be taken. This is why it’s a forbidden practice among the Jedi.
Yup and not figurative but in more literal way. One just can heard the hearts beating during the reconstruction surgery, then when it's almost over the beating Stops. To some Anakin/Vader Said something, to me he just exhale his last breath as a human being, ready to die and with the few Moments of he manage get a glimpse of his mask, the Mask is sealed and then the Heart Beating Re-Stars.
What’s really messed up is that, as punishment for his failure on Mustafar, Palpatine made sure the suit was intentionally uncomfortable, to the point of almost being a walking torture chamber. It would snag on Vader’s skin and scars as he moved. This pain may have served to make Vader more powerful with the Dark Side.
The specifics of Vader's surgery: Vader wasn't given any painkiller or anesthesia during his surgery. He was kept awake for days while the droids removed his burned flesh and his nerves were attached to the cybernetic limbs. His ear drums had been melted and the droids had to implant artificial hearing devices. His lungs had been burned to the point where they didn't work. In some areas the fire had burned all the way to the bone. Multiple blood transfusions were undertaking and 8 hours were taken supplying artificial implants to his internal organs. When the surgery was over he had been pushed deeper into the dark side and became more powerful
@@kellyann8440It's how the sith get their power. Pain fuels the dark side take pain turn it into negative emotions like anger and hate and the more powerful you get. In Vader's case his psychological scars from losing his wife left him with with depression keeping him from fully embracing the dark side
In the Legends continuity this suit was not only needed for him to survive, this suit was also intentionally made from outdated material that could constantly hurt him as well as limit his movements, specifically so that Vader no matter how strong he would become he would never be able to overthrow Palpatine. Not only is the fitting for a sith but it also hinders the way how The Rule of Two would work as Palpatine intended to rule indefinitely
@@aaroncouch617 The Rule of Two was created by Darth Bane near the end of the war of the old republic between the Jedi Order and the Sith Empire, the Sith had destroyed themselves due to their own arrogance and self greed with Bane being the last survivor, he took note of their own downfall and set up the Rule of Two, one master and one apprentice, the master representing the power of the dark side, and the apprentice being the one who seeks that power, both the master and the apprentice would constantly test each other looking for weaknesses in the other, should the apprentice kill the master becomes the master and finds their now apprentice. With each set of Sith being more cunning and powerful than the last.
At the same time though - Vader used the pain from the suit to fuel his power in the dark side and became more powerful than Palpatine expected. Truly a badass
@@TheSwoleScoliosisAthlete123 This is true, Vader did once think about upgrading his suit to feel more comfortable as well as making him far more agile, however he realized that keeping the current suit would not only keep him growing with the power of the dark side with the pain, but it would also suppress Anakin, thus Vader himself would become his own prison for the person he once knew
And then The obiwan series ruined it. Vader moved way too fast and unnaturally for someone supposed to be as restricted as he was. Especially in the final battle against obiwan.
George Lucas really wrote a legendary character. The character of Anakin Skywalker is truly an Odiepus character from Greek tragedy. He did everything he could to prevent a vision from coming true, and in doing so, he made it come true
To understand the torture he goes through you have to know: After a decade of insecurity, expetations, hopes, false promises, rejections, lies, manipulations, extreme violence, murder, warcrimes, collapse of believing, loss of friends, loss of mother, loss of wife, loss of the offspring, loss of freedom to walk your own path this man's dreams burst to thousand pieces as he felt into the fire! Then, crawling on stones that cut into is dying body, he came to rest on a place that we can only visit with special clothes! Brought back to Coruscant the droids started to pull off the rest of his clothes and burned skin, removed the stones and dust from the inside of his body! They put the artificial limbs on the stumps, where his arms and feets has been before! They put maschines inside of him to substitute the parts which has been damged critically! The technology faciliate him to breath with woundes loungs, eat and digest with damaged gullet and kidneys, and rebuilded gistle in his former hearing let him hear like under water! The black suit was directly put on his raw and untreatend skin; itching, pricking and inappropriate! This all happened in one operation! With fully conscious! And no anesthesia! And it all happened to a little slave boy that started his journey to free the slaves, only to end where he has begun! With a black suit and armor, that was his cell and his coffin day by day! Who of us wouldn't go insane?
13:04, yeah, he's in constant pain BY DESIGN. The suit is designed by the Emperor to cause him constant pain to top up his anger and reliance on the Darkside.
the face that makes a palpatine after Vader asks him where Padme is - priceless! an expression of absolute astonishment and disappointment. no wonder she risks the lie "you killed her".
The fact Vader’s breathing is so well known you wouldn’t even need to of seen any starwars or read any comics to know who it was 😂 that’s how iconic it is
The smile on palpatines face means that he is happy his plan worked and was able to turn anakin on the dark side officially and the damage he does all around him confirms all of palpatines facts that he would become more powerful then him and Yoda
Incorrect. Vader realizes that he's been deceived by Palpatine and has now lost everything so when he's crushing everything in the room, he is actually trying to crush Palpatine as well but is not strong enough to do so. Palpatine's smile is because he knows this and now Vader has no choice but to accept that he is Palpatine's lackey.
He was already a Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Vader, in the Novel it's more explicit about it, how "in that moment you realizes that there is no Anakin, there is no Dragon, there is no Vader only him, he did it, because when he could be thinking about her he was thinking in himself"
I'm old enough to remember the original trilogy, so I know Anakin/Vader's fate. The original 1977's New Hope had Ben Kenobi tell Luke that Vader is more machine than man, we recognize Vader's mechanical breathing, etc. But when I saw Vader get his suit, I was still holding out hope that he wouldn't go through with it. The story of the tragedy of Anakin is just that good.
I'm from the 90's the OG Trilogy I managed to get was the special edition from 97 I must said I'm sad that I never was able to hunt the Original release. But I manage to get the Novels, and the Novel weeks before the movie came out, man that's Tragedy in a Greek Tier
George is a genius. A true visionary and I will ALWAYS appreciate, respect and admire him for doing what he wanted to do; and that was to tell a story, regardless of outside opinion or interference.
Padme being the first thing he thought of showed just how much he loved her. I always thought him learning of her death is the last thread of light that could only be brought back by what he and her created, his children. Even Ahsoka or Obi Wan couldn't bring him back.
The only person who brought him back was his own son, and all that hate and hatred was gone and as soon as he let go that hate he died because in this universe apparently hatred and the dark side keeps you alive from anything (apart from being decapitated). Like it said in the prophecy he will bring balance to the force he was a Jedi then a Sith Lord then he came back to the light in his final moments.
"there's good in him... I know there's still..." That line and the music is so impacting, the foreshadowing of his eventual redemption. Natalie Portman's acting was so good in this scene. Padme loved Anakin and forgave him despite his turn to the dark side. I believe Luke says the same words about his father in the later episodes.
@@Corey313there was good In him he just was so broken from everyone holding him back they never saw the good in him Mace just was so like mad this new boy was here so he made lies he's a problom
I love how at the time this came out people made fun of Vader screaming “Nooooo” when he realized he lost Padme. But, now it’s a scene that garners so much emotion and tears from viewers. Another example of how the Prequels have become way more respected and loved all these years later.
To be honest I still dislike the actual “nooooo” bit. But absolutely everything leading up to that was utterly incredible. Those agonized moans as he destroys everything around him are so good I genuinely don’t know why they didn’t have him just let loose a mournful cry of anguish instead. It would’ve been one of the few times we hear James Earl Jones’ Vader performance be more emotionally visceral, and would’ve made it that much more impactful.
If I'm not mistaken, originally the voice was not as deep, so it sounded ridiculous. I can only assume they used Hayden Christensen voice originally, then went back and changed it with redubb of James Earl Jones voice. The arc they used for his turn to the dark side didn't really make much sense and was really terrible. The emperor just asks him, join me, and he's like, ok. Really dumb. Prequels were bad, but the Sequels were worse. Who knew?
Vader’s suit was designed to always keep him in pain. Pain leads to suffering, suffering leads anger, anger leads to hate. So with Vader in a constant state of pain the Emperor ensures his control over him.
Even after everything Vader had done in RotS, when being put into the suit, the mask, no longer what he once was, there was one motivation that kept him enduring, he held onto one thing: Padmé. When Sidious took that away from him; it was truly the height of Vader's and Anakin's despair and ultimately when Anakin's light was consumed by the wrathful Vader. Vader's first breath still gives me goosebumps.
Yeah!!! Its more curious how it was in the hole scene with Vader until it gave up, He is dying or Die, then the Mask is Sealed and then the heart restart his beating
1:35 This was a nice reaction by this guy because in one of the recent Darth Vader comics, Vader outright and correctly accuses Palpatine of lying to him that Padme died. And Palpatine justifies it.
The Novel 2005 saids so, "but in the end you don't want to do it, in the End, the shadow accepts you, the shadow conforts you, en the End the shadow it's the only thing you have left"
Something about how vader views the suit that sticks with me So little of him was left unscathed after the fire burned him. His ears had implants his eyes had assistance. His nerves had some type of replacement *This isn't seeing, This isn't feeling, This isn't hearing, this is not living* I'm paraphrasing but being Darth Vader from this point on is just the most depressing story in all star wars. An actual hell after anakin's death
The rise of one of the greatest villains in sci-fi cinema history, Darth Vader is a legend in pop culture for a reason from his breathing to his presence alone.
One comment from the Thor Reacts woman, she made a good point when the mask was fully pressurized onto the lower half of the face plate, saying "his fate was just sealed"
In the episode three novelization, when he screams NOOOO, it’s actually him crying loud and screaming in pain and agony and the voice modulator misunderstands him and just thinks he’s screaming no. But he’s really just ugly crying and screaming in his mask
Yeah if you listen really really carefully you can hear him screaming bloody murder. after the first two seconds of the word noooo!!! he's literally screaming in agony
What I like about this scene is that vader's surgery having his limbs be attached and the suit put on, is that there's no painkillers, no anaesthetic. To make it that much more painful.
People dog on the nooo at the end but I don't get why. You can hear the anger, the pain, the regret and sorrow he has to carry now for the rest of his life. Truly sad.
If you listen to the French dub of the scene, the Big No sounds really good. It's like you're still able to hear Anakin's voice through the vocoder when he screams.
One of the greatest scenes in Star Wars. Every time when Vader starts to breathe after inserting that mask, I get chills no matter how many times I've seen it.
@@antuan_carr2689 naaah!! It's more like he gave up and exhale his last breath, basically he is dying until the mask is sealed to more proof just heard carefully the heart beating how its Bumping then it's off and it restars
@@hiidkwhattoput1116 that’s just a mechanical sound that was just there, while the helmet was being put on. Just cause you hear some tiny sound doesn’t mean he said something. He didn’t talk at all while it was happening.
I don’t remember exactly what but as Vader is rising the choir begins singing. They something along the lines of “I couldn’t save her” or something like that
Anakin became Darth Vader officially after Mace's murder when he vows himself to Palpatine and Palpatine gives him the name. This is when Vader gets put in the suit.
Oui mais il restait toujours une part de annakin en lui c'est pourquoi on voit la scène sur mustafar ou il pleure rt aussi quand il demande si padme est en vie
If you listen really REALLY closely in the moment the medic droid is lowering the mask onto Anakin's face, you can faintly hear the last thing Anakin says for 22 years: "Padmé, help me."
@@Lilcrazy99 that was a mechanical sound from the helmet going on or him painfully exhaling before it was put on. That theory is something that was never truly confirmed. Just some RU-vidr making stuff up from a small sound they heard.
hum i don't think so....what i heard was "i could really go for a double cheese bacon supreme with fries and a coke zero" but then again i was really hungry when i was trying to hear it so don't quote me on that!!!
Yeah man the trailers for this are pretty much burnt into my mind, the vader reveal and Anakin marching on the Jedi temple were my 2 favourite parts from em.
One of the worst things that Vader was thinking when he heard he killed padme, he was also thinking he killed his unborn children too. Which further deepened his connection to the dark side.
He learned how to stay alive with the dark powers of the force as his master once did it explains it in the movie as foreshadowing palpitine able to do it in the future
@@pomepau7082 I wouldn't say that, since Anakin DID bring balance and killed the last siths. What happened next was just keeping the things balanced. Maintenance of what Anakin did basically (bringing balance doesn't mean destroying the dark side forever). If it had a better writing, it would actually be an awesome idea for sequences
3:51 In the novelization of the film, Vader is reaching out with the Force to crush Sidious, not the room. But Sidious is more powerful than the wounded Vader that Vader's attack is simply deflected to affect everything else. Lucas confirmed that Anakin before his injuries and the loss of Padme had the potential to be twice as strong or more than Sidious, after his defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan and being told Padme died his power was at the level of 80% of Sidious' power. It is implied in another novel that if Vader would let go of his guilt over Padme's death that he woule regain most of his power and potential. It was the conflict of his emotions that lessened his power as well as the physical loss of living tissue, that weakened him. Instead Vader buried his guilt and pain, he buried what was left of Anakin, hence the split of identity. Vader had nothing left, the only thing left was his Master and the Empire, he lost everything else that he ever loved. Sidious meanwhile got ultimate power in the galaxy, his Empire, and everything else he ever wanted. Vader had nothing left to live for except to serve the Empire he helped create and his Master, and perhaps the possibility of destroying Sidious simply to take power for himself and revenge for everything he lost. I'm referencing the lore and content of Legends, not Disney canon.
All the parallels were phenomenal and when Vader was "born" and took his first "breath" (that iconic Vader breath in the mask), at the exact same time padme took her last, and the twins were born as Vader was "born"
Fun fact: the reason he wears a mask and breather is because when he was burning he breathed in the hot burning smoke and fumes that heavily damaged his lungs and throat. Which also explains his voice modulator. Plus the suit breathes for him
I’ve always loved that you can see the fog/smoke shift when he takes his first breaths, and how if you basically crank the volume up you can hear Anakin say, with his last breath as Anakin, “Padme save me.”
That was not the birth of Darth Vader. Vader was born when he chose Sideous and the potential of saving Padme over the Jedi and the possibility of saving the galaxy. When he cut off Mace's hand.
Yeah, not for nothing the OST is Called Birth and Rebirth, man if one is careful besides the soundtrack, the Sound effects, the the actors doing his jobs, they added a heart beating, then they took it out as if Anakin/Vader exhaled his last breath, during 12 long seconds we don't heard a single thing, the mask is sealed and the Heart restart it's beating
Oui mais annakin était toujours présent malgré qu'il soit devenue Vador,cest vraiment au moment du masque que annakin s'en va complètement avant d'être ramené par lukr
There is a subtle touch that if you listen close you can hear a heartbeat, it goes silent when the mask is first put on, then starts back up again when Vader takes his first breath
I will say this over and over again. Darth vader is the best character in film, tv shows, cartoons, anime, anything. He is just the best when him breathing makes you recognise him
The final cruelty of the sith is the promise of power. You lose everything. And power is all you have left, your a slave to the power. Ironically the sith code says "the force shall set me free"
Which is ironic considering when Vader broke free he still had the metal parts around his wrists. From childhood to Jedi to Sith, Anakin was a slave and it only took his son to break him free.
Vader’s suit is not meant to just keep him alive, it is essentially a mobile coffin with old jagged rusty nails digging, scratching and stabbing him every single time he moves. It’s meant to remind him of his failure to Palpatine and his transition to the dark side.
"Hey dummy! I'm gonna call you Darth Matt from now on. As in what do you call a guy with no arms and no legs laying on the front porch? Matt, Darth Matt!"
When the mask is put on you can hear him say “ padmae help me”in a quiet pain filled voice makes me cry every time sorry if I spelled your majesty’s name wrong you will always be my favorite queen !!
A lot of ppl don’t feel sorry for him cuz he was gullible brought it on himself but Darth Vader’s angry/heartbroken moans is just very sad and impactful.
3:58 I think Sidious smiles there because Vader believes that he killed his wife, who was still a spark of light in him. Now, she’s gone & Vader hates himself, hates other even more now.
There’s no way she actually thought he could only breathe and can’t talk.🤣 I know she’s new to Star Wars but Vader literally says one of the most iconic lines in cinema history.
Technically, Anakin really became Darth Vader when joined the dark side and joined Darth Sidious. What we're seeing here is how Vader got his notorious form. The most chilling part was the terror in his eyes when he was being fitted for the mask. They even showed in first-person perspective, the mask being put on him to help us feel his dread. Most of us who already saw the original trilogy, knew this would be Vader's defacto prison for about 20+ years . For all the complaints that Episode III got, it certainly drove home the point that whatever powers Anakin might have acquired, it certainly wasn't worth the price he paid.
gotta say everyone says that he is so angry in this scene, but in reality he might as well be crying in agony to me. That growl he does doesent sound angry it sounds like a wail of pain.
Little did people know back in 2005 how iconic Darth Vader's heavy mechanical breathing would be. Someone who has never watched a single Star Wars movie/animated series but knows pop culture well enough to tell you who does that heavy breathing belongs too. Living proof are these people reacting when they get chills hearing the iconic breathing as well as saying "There it is." They are witnessing the birth and start of an iconic pop culture villain.
In canon, the Emperor was angry at Anakin's failure and almost left him there to die. He decided to let him feel the rain on his body, before he was in surgery. He deliberately made sure he was awake...not only to punish him but to increase his pain which would help him connect to the dark side of the force. He placed in the remnants of a sith droid along with sith robes and cape. He was elevating him and ridiculing him all at the same time. He deliberately used outdated and crude technology to be sure that Vader would face painful consequences if he tried to overthrow him. He almost got new armor...beskar armor for a new suit. He would be able to sleep and be almost pain free, and able to withstand force lightning. However, the operation would temporarily cut off his life support, risk of death during surgery was high..so he decided not to go through with the operation.
Fun fact, well more so sad fact, as Anakin is getting the Vader mask put on, if you listen carefully (and turn up the volume if need be) you hear Anakin say “Padme help me.” It’s his last cry for help before he fully becomes Vader, and is consumed by the Dark Side. Idk if it was in the script or not, but if it wasn’t, Hayden you are a master mind with adding that if it’s improve.
This scene is probably one of the most bittersweet movie scenes ever. Darth Vader is my absolute favorite villain. I love him so much. His storyline is one of the most heartbreaking of any villain ever but it’s still so good. This scene is just a masterpiece. Watching him slowly become the villain we all know he becomes. And the absolutely amazing part where he takes his first breath as Darth Vader is just iconic and amazing. But what gets me is that despite how cool he looks and seems, despite how evil he’s become and will continue to be, despite all the things he will do and already has done he is still desperately wanting to keep his wife safe. And the hesitation in his voice when he asks Palpatine about Padme is so sad but it still has some hope in it. Even after all he’s gone through, even after all he’s done he still loves his wife and has hope that she might be alive. And then when he learns that not only did his wife die but that he’s the reason she died….I know that these movies get hated on but that scene is one of the most heartbreaking scenes I have ever seen. The fact that he does all of the things he does all to protect her and then that is what ultimately ends up killing her is just so heartbreakingly ironic. And I think that this whole scene was so well done and such a masterpiece. The build up to his revelation, the slow heartbreaking tragic music, the fact that they somehow made Darth Vader look helpless and heartbroken despite his face being completely hidden…I just love it/hate it. My sister and I are going through the Star Wars movies right now and we watched this one not too long ago. I spent the last probably hour of this movie crying but this is the scene that made me lose it. I had a pillow that I was holding to comfort myself with but also to cry into.
Growing up I always thought that Star Wars was primarily centered around Luke but after the prequels we all now realize that the entire Star Wars saga is all about Vader. And to find out that he didn’t become Vader because of a lust for power but simply out of the love to save his pregnant wife. He sacrificed his friends, his Jedi legacy and his body and still lost it all. 😢 Without a doubt Vader’s story is one of the most tragic in cinematic history.
For me, it was those seconds between the music and breathing i couldn't take my eyes off the screen and waited for the breathing it was like my heart skipped a beat , the only time i started breathing again was when he started, i never forgot That scene
