FANTASTIC Dragonborn from Fizban's Treasury of Dragons 

Hahaha exactly!

if you want to fly too, turn into a quetzalcoatlus. only thing i don't like about dragon's breath in wildshape is your dC is based on con so it will be low unless you find a shape with high con.

Wouldn’t the breath weapon only be available in the original form

That would make sense, but RAW racial abilities can be used in wildshape, only spells can not.@@dylanfields3858

@@dylanfields3858 nope, it is still usable in wildshape cuz wildshape is wierd.

Agreed! It's definitely one I've considered!

Awesome!! What subrace are they? I wonder how it’ll play with their other abilities and features!

Hahaha it does make that option a bit less appealing mechanically. Odd that they didn’t revise it to fit in with some of this new content in this book!

@@ConstructedChaos It kinda does. But being able to do multiple breath attacks as an attack action is spicy

Of course! I'm glad it helped and I'm happy you enjoyed it!

There’s lots of great inspiration out there and I definitely can’t fault either of those sources! Both legendary material!!

Hell yeah!! It’s a great combo!

Gem is definitely my favorite in terms of flavor as well plus resistance to and a force breath weapon is great! However, that metallic option is also looking nasty!

An Amethyst Echo Knight sounds interesting, completely ignoring the "alternative time lines" stuff and flavouring it that your echoes are crystalline copies that you control Telekinetically. Besides, both race and class benefit from a good constitution.

@@noditianniz-emir7075 OOOOO That does sound cool!! And Amethyst is my favorite of the gem options--except for MAYBE Topaz!

@@noditianniz-emir7075 I was thinking about a amethyst psi warrior would be really cool and thematic

Haha so do I 😅

Hahaha honestly, I can't blame you. The real lore is way to silly and complex to pay much heed to if you're already doing some level of homebrew!

@@ConstructedChaos yeah simply saying their hybrids in the same vain as Aaismar, tieflings, and Half orcs. Makes everything alot easier

You're not wrong there! I'm coming around to it, myself haha

mine is metallic for another breath use per day which i'd use on dragon fear.

think about an emerald gem dragongorn with path of the totem warrior barbarian.. flying raging and spewing physic damage

@@augusthenriksen2862 Best part there is that if you go straight barbarian it also increases the save DC of the breath weapon.

Haha basically a Jedi dragon, eh? I’m all for it! As far as the half-dragon template you’ve mentioned, if that’s in monsters of the multiverse, I actually don’t have access to it yet. But, I would imagine that any playable half-dragon race introduced in there would supersede this one!

@@ConstructedChaos Sorry, I was referring to the monster manual not realizing the new book shares the initials.

@@jasonsumma1530 oh duh haha! The half-dragon in there isn’t a playable race, though. So I’d assume you’d just use the stuff in Fizbans for a character. Of course, if you’re asking for a monster’s mechanics, I’m sure it’s fine to adopt some of the stuff from Fizban’s into it!

Is there not one already?! What a travesty!

I think that sounds perfectly reasonable and Amethyst Dragons in general are my favorite as well. Naturally, that extends to dragonborn :)

The new dragonborn really add so much to the race option! Imagining a resplendent knight in shining armor and beautifully clear crystals jutting out from underneath!

Oh hell yeah!! That turns out a bit specific but I’m sure those builds turn that into bread and butter! Now that all this stuff has changed, I don’t feel nearly as bad about not having dark vision as a Dragonborn-even if it would make sense lore-wise.

@@ConstructedChaos yeah tbh it's weird that they don't have darkvision. it kind of steers dragonborn to be certain casters so they can gain it like warlock (devil's sight), twilight cleric, shadow sorc or basically any caster class that can cast darkvision. if they wanted to be martials, they'd be forced to pick up the blind fighting style and play in melee.

Hahaha they certainly get a lot! I love the idea of races getting this much, though. I think it makes builds feel more unique based on the race option without being as restrictive as the ability score stuff. But I could be wrong haha

@@ConstructedChaos I certainly agree races need that something extra but this might be over doing it just a bit power creep is a game ender. Tho that being said I may allow it for martial classes in higher tier play to stay up with the mages

@@rocknut144 I haven’t seen the changes to the other races in monsters of the multiverse yet but I’d wager we’ll see a lot of power creep there as well-but hopefully only to effectively balance things back out a bit.

@@ConstructedChaos that may be true but i still think effectively being able to cast an aoe spell as part of a (multi) attack action is going a bit far I may allow parts of the new race but not all of it

@@rocknut144 I totally respect that decision! D&D is great because it gives us the flexibility to change and shape the rules to fit our games!

Love it when people adapt the lore of this stuff to their games! I think that's the design intention and a missed opportunity when we don't!

@@ConstructedChaos I agree! Wait, correction. Metallic dragonborn were metallic dragons cursed by Bahamut to humanoid form and chromatics were humanoids "blessed" by Tiamat. I messed up my own lore.

@@VBadBaboon "Blessings" = "Good Curses" lol

Haha nice!! Nothing quite like a mid-campaign upgrade!!

@@ConstructedChaos it’s certainly a nice feeling, and makes me more excited to see about what I can get up to, especially since I got my next game today, so it’s going to be good!!! ^^ The meme squad continues with the legacy of our group known as Bayblade: the most chaotic group of dredged up losers who just might somehow make it if we’re all lucky. 😂

@@CaptainFirespitter hahaha Bayblade might be in my top 5 favorite group names now 😂🤘🏼

@@ConstructedChaos the name alone says more than enough about the chaos that is our group, and even rebooted, the Bayblade effect and influence lives on, perhaps stronger than ever before!!! 😂 Honestly, it’s naught but pure insanity in our group and I wouldn’t have it any other way. 😁 Dnd will forever be my favourite game to play with the stories born from the events nothing but incredible no matter what. I’d live for nothing else otherwise. That and my fiancé! 😂 all I’ll ever need in life.

@@CaptainFirespitter hahaha always love to hear tales of others embracing the chaos with good friends! That’s what it’s all about!

i think flight is always great for utility but for combat i think that's DM dependent. a DM who always structures combats with diversity (there's always ranged attackers or casters) will find flight doesn't do much unless you have a higher base speed while flying. personally, i'm never going to use those breath weapons unless i somehow have a build that has con as the main stat (like some sort of rune knight magic missile build). i'll always be converting those breath attacks to dragon fear (with a cha as the main stat) and if that's the case, i'd pick metallic for the extra use before a long rest.

At least you’re even tempted to use breath weapons now! Before it was just a waste of an action by the time you got beyond 5th level or so.

I don’t know I think it would be a pretty good use of an attack now. I don’t think it is overpowered or anything but if you’re hitting three possibly more with it it’s doing pretty good damage and more than one of your weapon strikes usually. Granted it is on three targets instead of focusing fire which is usually a better strategy. But that’s more what I’m saying with the flight is out of combat. If a build is planning on using the breath weapon anyways flying doesn’t matter that much in combat because you have to be within 15 feet. Unless you’re just strafing through the air whilst using the breath weapon. I played an aberrant mind sorcerer in my last campaign and the telepathic speech came in quite useful a couple times and this one just seems like an upgraded version. Not a sole reason to pick this race but a really good ribbon feature. All together I really like the package. I think I might give the amethyst Dragonborn some thought for one of my next campaigns. Perhaps a barbarian could be cool. Con boosting your ac too seems pretty decent. Also had an idea of doing a dragonborn way of the ascendant dragon monk. If I’m reading it right you could multiattack with breath weapons. Not super strong but seems fun to me.

Hahaha too true. I just wish the most current version of the kobold still had it!

I can definitely agree with that from a lore and flavor perspective. The same goes for darkvision with so many dragons having some varying degree of it, blindsight, or even truesight. However, from the perspective of game balance, I think these landed in a good place!

@@ConstructedChaos the changes to breath weapons are definitely appreciated and give them a good boost I completely agree with that.

If you want the natural armor, you would take a feat from Xandar called dragon hide. It gives AC 13 + dex bonus but I sort of agree dragonborn should get it. I think the easiest explanation is that it isn't just the scales but also the thicker hide of a dragon which gives the AC.

the feat from xanathar's gives them natural weapons (claws) too.

The flavor certainly fits well!

I don't believe they are, traditionally. But that sounds like a fun bit of lore for a home game or some homebrew!

@@ConstructedChaos I mean the portals started to open between the two worlds.

more.....more.....MOOOOOORRRREEEEEE!!! *evil laughter*

So they’d have skin like humans? Sounds interesting. I’m game!

​​​​​​​@@ConstructedChaos I should have mentioned to play as, I feel like a dunce! 😅 I still want people to have the option to play as a traditionally scaly Dragonborn if they want to, I just been wanting to play a Dragonborn that's a bit different from the vanilla ones. I was really thinking of adding 6 more Dragonborn phenotypes based on their skin coverings, but I'm going to speak of 2 other ones that I've been developing, 1 variant being a completely fur covered one that I like to call fuzzballs, the other one has neither scutes/scales, or fur, & is what I dubbed leatherbacks. The 4 other ones just have 1 combination of the 3 other three skin impressions. I'm also modeling mines after Eastern Asian style dragons instead of Western European dragons. Even been thinking about giving them optional superman like flight as a reference to Dragons in Asian folklore & how they can fly without wings. & I did got curious about checking Fizzbans(I hope I spelled that right)Dragonborn just to see what it's all about, & to see if there's some ideas that I want to incorporate into my Dragonborn. If you couldn't tell this is indeed ment for a homebrew, & I've been doing some idea mining. XD

@@xeschire706 I love these ideas and the flavor you’re going for with each. They’d be welcome at my table and I’m stoked that you’re finding ways to make these player options your own!

I don't really get that vibe from dragonborn. I've recently played one as a monk, I'm DMing for one that's a cleric, and I've played alongside one that was a wizard. Further, it sounds to me like you had more of a player problem than a paladin problem :/