Their story always moves me. Both felt unloved, unappreciated and gloomy their hearts. Tolkien wove their romance into their healing process, whilst simultaneously giving readers a respite from the horrors the others(Frodo, Sam, and the campaign to the gates of Mordor)were going through. I too would gladly read more of their story.
I remember reading that Eowyn tried to stop Aragorn on the way to the paths of the dead and he kissed her hand gently, and with his words did not lead her on before he left trying to show compassion despite his duties and his love for Arwen. He had been quite unaware of Eowyns feelings for him up to that point but given her age his reaction was most appropriate. Eowyn was so distraught by Aragorn leaving that she threw herself into the battle with nothing left in her heart but pain. That was exactly in my opinion what gave her the reckless abandon to fight the Witch King and prevail. No terror held power over her because she had just faced her darkest night of the soul. I also love reading about how Aragorn healed her arm and brought her out of the Witch kings spell with Athelas being named 'Estel' (healer) too to prove his kingship as a sign to Minas Tirith of his return. Such a redeeming thing for Faramir and her to fall in love. Tolkien wrote such deep and beautiful stories ❤
Me too. As an Tolkien fanboy of 40+ years now, I've always had a special spot for Faramir. Somehow so relatable. I love that he and Eowyn found each other.
@@nathgangma Farimirs best quality is that he isn't a (war) hero. He is something better. A good (hu)man. He proved that by resisting the temption of the ring. Sam literally tells him: "Captain Faramir, you have shown your quality, sir - the very highest.". Boromir was the hero character of the two... Hed be still proud of his brother and knew how much Denethor underestimated Faramir.
I wish they had kissed in the theatrical release and that the houses of healing scenes had not been left out. This music is exquisite! It matches each scene beautifully!
This is a wonderful tribute to these two characters. Very tender and sweet. .... I know when I saw this movie... the whole trilogy, I fell in love first with Aragon of course, but then when I saw Faramir's faithfulness and duty to his horrid father and the kind sweet soul that he was inside.... (I love men like that - sensitive and tender) well, I fell in love with Faramir even more. I wish that they had made more of a story for these two characters, because they are both pining for a sense of belonging and purpose and it really would have completed the tale more fully and satisfying.
I fell in love with Faramir and Eowyn's love story well before Aragorn and Arwen's own story when I read it and later saw it on the big screen as a teenager and while both are beautiful it is Faramir and Eowyn's that I love the most given that it is given proper page time in the third book while Aragorn and Arwen's is so private to them both that it takes place only in the backstory as I'm a sucker for a full on love story within the actual narrative. And also if you're a teenage girl getting into Tolkien and looking for a love story then there is no better place to start than with Eowyn's initial feelings for Aragorn before finally choosing Faramir because you don't want to go in hoping to read about Aragorn and Arwen and find nothing on them at all and that's boring. Call me a biased fangirl all you want but I can never get over how visually appealing both David Wenham and Miranda Otto look together; their fair, good looks and his red hair and her blonde hair along with their clothes complement each other in this whole sequence in the film so well. And I would personally marry Faramir in a shot because he's so sweet and I do love a redhead. Also he's the Steward if not the King so if that's anything to go by I'd go for the next best thing. Faramir and Eowyn all the way!
Thanks for making this, I love the tale of Eowyn and Faramir, it was not like Arwen and Aragorn but just as touching to the soul. She was on a suicide mission with her unrequited love, and he was able to read her and see through it, an honorable man, a good man.
Beautifully written. And ‘The Halls of Healing’ and the characters interaction in images is exactly as I envisioned from the book. They did a great job with illustrating the profound Love Story that is Eowin & Faramir. And the casting was perfect too.
For me, Eowyn was Tolkien's most compelling and interesting female character. She was a woman, without extraordinary powers unlike the Elfs. But she had love and the courage to give it.
Yes. I'm afraid I found Arwen rather insipid in the book - which is why in Peter Jackson's movie, they have her a bigger role. But in the book Eowyn wanted to do more for herself and her family.
I kind of hate what they did with Faramir in the movie, with him initially thinking to take the ring for himself and his own and his country's glory. I mean, yeah, he eventually let them go, but in the books he agrees to do whatever he can to help them immediately, and never thinks to take the ring. Or so I remember it. But that was part of why I loved him so much in the books and was angry the first time I saw him in the movie. That first instinct towards power was just such a shift in character from his book self. I also wish they had included more of Eowyn and Faramir's post-epic-battle book story in the movie. One thing though, that I don't love. That Eowyn gives up being a warrior-maiden! She could have been a warrior AND found love!
Katie Hastie she was a warrior. She killed the witch king of angmar. It doesn't get any more warriory than that. She wasn't just wanting to be a warrior, though. She specifically wanted to die in battle because she was trapped at home with no purpose in her life and she felt that would be the only thing that would give her purpose. Once the war ended and she fell in love with Faramir, she no longer felt the need to die in battle just to have purpose and prove something to everyone. She didn't give up on anything that was still important to her anymore.
It was a good change imo. It really ramps up the tension when Faramir plays with the idea of taking the ring, especially when you remember Boromir. Remember, a movie has nowhere near the same amount of time as the book to establish the Ring's power, and can't do so using narration in the same way as a book. So making every time the ring could change hands a moment of real tension works, and can be shown visually through framing and performances. No one can come away from the movies thinking the ring wasn't a threat to even the purest of hearts. Besides, him dealing with that doubt is much more immediately dramatic for his character. Again, there wasn't much screentime for Faramir to make an impact in Two Towers, so giving him a nice little mini drama for TT impresses him onto the audience for when he comes back in Return of the King. It's a pretty big change I guess, but it's well motivated. It was done for creative reasons, not for shallow "we want more action because that sells, can we put Pepsi product placement in LoTR?" type reasons. More importantly, it works in the movie, adaptation aside, the Faramir in Jackson's movie is a good character.
a point was made somewhere that faramir never wanting the ring at all diminished the power of the ring story-wise. if it can corrupt anyone, even a hobbit, why would faramir suddenly not be affected even in the slightest?
I actually prefer the movie's rendition vs the book in this case. Faramir's desire for the ring, and his difficult decision to not take if for himself or Gondor makes sense. So many were tempted by the ring, even both Galdalf and Galadriel, therefore it would be quite odd that Faramir would have not desire for it whatsoever. Tolkien is certainly brilliant but in this case I think Jackson made a slight improvement.
Yes, I agree--I don't like what Peter Jackson did with Faramir's character. Faramir has the wisdom and humility both his brother and his father lacked. In the books, it is the characters who have humility and who are in lower positions that do not struggle greatly with the ring: the ring plays on pride and power. That is why Aragorn and Faramir never attempt to take the ring: they are content with their place. When Sam has the ring, he recognizes its temptations of power as absurd. Eowyn goes from desiring death to desiring life. That is why she becomes a healer.
@@l.plantagenettruuue, buh actually it doesn't really matter tho, Tolkien brought them both to life and gave them meaning equally. And I just did a bit of research and it seems we were both correct. Tolks had his fave male and Fem character and it def shows. 🥰
Faramir had the “quality” that was uncommon in men, that was the reason Numenor was granted in the first place. Boromir returned the ring to Frodo out of duty. Faramir returned the ring out of understanding and love. Faramir was the greater.
Il grande Maestro Tolkien ci ha regalato con incomparabile poesia le pagine del suo libro; il geniale Peter Jackson ci ha illustrato la sua spettacolare visione della Terra di Mezzo; e così allo stesso modo questo utente ha coniugato la bellezza, la dolcezza, il lirismo e la potenza dell'Amore per eccellenza del Signore degli Anelli... Negli sguardi tra Faramir ed Eowyn, nella stretta delle loro mani sono racchiusi mille significati, molto più di quanto abbiano potuto esprimere le frasi o le scene ammirate in blu-ray!!! Magnifico incredibile splendido video
Eowyn has personally defeated the Witch King of Angmar, who boasted that " no man can slay him ". Eowyn should be content with her part in the War of the Ring.
They have some of it in the extended edition of RoTK. This, along with a couple other side-stories were either cut down, or removed due to the ENTIRE extended edition being over 4 hours and 20 minutes long (even though I feel they still left some out). If they just had the Shelob's Lair arc occur during The Two Towers (as it should've been), we'd have more content in this final movie.
Que lindo hacen una perfecta pareja amo a faramir, es dulce fuerte valiente y ella hermosa valiente, aguerrida hija de reyes pidieron vivir para contarlo lastima que sacaron estás escenas de la peli
Indeed very tender and sweet, from a man who most certainly knew how to write a love story. It reminds me of my first great love, the one I let get away from me.
Going by the movie, I never understood why Faramir and Eowyn stayed in the White City. SHE was given the leadership of Rohan by Theoden. So, she is Queen. Faramir was just the Steward of Gondor, so he should have gone with her to Rohan, not her stay at Minas Tirith with him.
Eomer became King of Rohan and Aragon made Faramir the Prince of Ithilien. Eoywn was left to lead the nation in Theoden's stead by leading them to the White Mountains where they took shelter in "The Two Towers." She was never given the right to become Queen of Rohan since Theoden's only child died and she was also younger than Eomer so he would be next in line. She would have only inherited the Queenship if Eomer had died. By marrying Faramir she became Princess of Ithilien so her status was not shabby.
@@druidriley3163 yes, but it was because Theoden didn't think he nor Eomer would have a good chance of surviving the battle of the Pelennor Fields. She would have been the next practical choice and the people of Edoras loved her. However, since Eomer survived he would be the next King because he was the oldest and I don't know if they had Salic law or not, but either way it was always going to be Eomer since Theoden's son, Theodred, was killed. Like I said he was allowing, Eowyn, to be Regent in his stead and to be Queen if neither he nor Eomer survived.
@@l.plantagenet Dunno. Don't know the law either, but seems to me a King's decree would stand. Theoden said he left word, so...I can see Eowyn stepping down for Eomer, seeing as few of these cultures are egalitarian for women.
I seem to remember some further dialogue, but don't have my book to check it. Eowyn says to him, "Would you have your people say that you tamed a wild shield maiden from the north?" And Eowyn said, "Yes."
The way I interpreted it is that Eowyn lived in darkness while she was in the House of Healing and knew Aragron did not love her, but when she met Faramir she became happy again! She basically now wants the opposite of battle and death... life!
Eowyn had stated earlier in a meeting with Aragorn that her only fear was being "caged" where the only recourse for women of the day was to marry as high on the social scale as possible and bare children. Till she met Faromir she only wanted a life of glory and valor on the battlefield. She then realized he was a man who would honor her all her life
If Aragorn had fallen in love with Eowyn and married her (making her the Queen of Gondor), she would have become utterly miserable in the end because she would have found herself in a much smaller cage (figuratively speaking) than the one she experienced in Rohan since the culture of Gondor is so very different from that of Rohan. Faramir has many of the same qualities Eowyn initially admired in Aragorn -- calmness, courage, intelligence, etc. -- but accepts and appreciates her in ways Aragorn does not. Faramir also knows only too well what it is like to be overlooked and thought of as second best, just like she does. There's even more to it than that, however. The last time a king of Gondor married a princess of Rohan, it led to CIVIL WAR in Gondor because the Queen was not one of the Dunedain. Some people in Gondor became concerned that the Queen's son would not have as long of a life as the Dunedain usually do, and they started to see the royal bloodline as tainted by the Queen's lesser ancestry. (Eowyn actually does have some Dunedain ancestry through her maternal grandmother but it would probably not be perceived as enough.) Faramir, however, is not the king and so it's not of as much importance whom he marries.
When u can't compete with a elf goddess that aragorn probably loved since he was a kid at Rivendell. So Walmart Aragorn is next up. He's aragorn she married strider 😆
And Eowyn looked upon Faramir and decided, "Hey, this guy is hot, too, and he has status. He's totally into me. I will be totally into him." And they hooked up, right at the top of the city wall where everyone could see them. And they happily ever after, until they decided to trade up.
