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Farewell N class Mikados Victoria Raiiways 1966 

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Farewell N class Mikados Victoria Railways digital upgraded version of coverage of the outing to Ballan with double headed N class steam locomotives 468 and 475 in 1966 with 8mm silent movie film.
The final runs of N class steam locomotives of the Victorian Railways was in October 19 96.
Shown is the scene at Spencer Street station Melbourne before the train departed for Ballan
The train is seen arriving at Ballan and the locomotives the locomotives being serviced and turned before returning to Melbourne.
The now removed turntable was also host for a strategically placed walker rail motor and trailer.
Some of these scenes were shot from the walker rail motor trailer.
The Victorian Railways K class 2-8-0 steam locomotives, all built before 1923, were not designed for possible conversion to standard gauge which was envisaged to replace some of the broad gauge lines in Victoria.
Therefore, the later N class locomotives were designed for such possible conversion.
The N class were largely mechanically similar to the K class. They except had a trailing truck under the firebox which allowed the firebox to be wider and so not be an obstacle to gauge conversion.
This consequently meant a longer boiler than the K class resulting in a longer locomotive.
However, by the time the first standard gauge line to Albury was built, the N class were being withdrawn from service. Thirty N class steam locomotives were built at the Victorian Railways workshops at Newport between 1925 and 1931.
Another 50 were later built by North British, and yet another 20 were ordered from Newport workshops, of which only three were built due to the later J class steam locomotives with higher boilers, and being mechanically similar to the K and N class, and designed for easy conversion to standard gauge, being adopted.
The newer J class, unlike the N class, could use branch lines which had shorter 50 and 53 foot turntables. Ten N class locomotives were sold to the South Australian Railways during a locomotive shortage there and became the South Australian Railways 750 class. Two survive. One is in the Railway Historical Society Museum at Newport Victoria and the other is in the National Rail Museum in Adelaide South Australia.

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@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 4 года назад
more amazing stuff!
@smitajky
@smitajky 4 года назад
In some ways the N class was a failure. The drawbacks were that they were too long for the light lines turntables and they were very light for main line service. This meant they had all the extra costs for very little practical benefit. Shortly before this clip I had ridden my pushbike to Maryborough and spent a week there. Although almost all services were J class there was one N class that came in from Dunolly. I read below about trying to rebuild one but I ask "what would be the point"? How would it fit into an operating schema for preserved engines? Unless it was standard gauge and could go anywhere from SA to Brisbane.
@reidgck
@reidgck 4 года назад
It seems as that if it wasn't for the introduced policy to ensure future locomotives had to be standard gauge convertible, then the N class locomotives would not have been built but rather they would have built more K class locos. Interestingly, if they could have been able to see into the future to the age of diesels where all they had to do was to change bogies to suite whatever gauge, then there would be no need for a design of steam locomotive convertible to standard gauge. Ironically, it was never required that any N class steam be converted which means again that it would have been better to build more Ks rather than Ns - which were basically longer Ks. The Js were improved Ks with the advantages of being shorter than the Ns and yet were standard gauge convertible as well. It's good to have hindsight on these matters. It is interesting to know the reasons the N class came into existence.
@vsvnrg3263
@vsvnrg3263 4 года назад
@@reidgck ,there were differences between the k and n firebox. it seems the j's got the n firebox. there were some k's pumped out of the newport workshops during ww2. this lot of k's should have got the n firebox so that they could have been converted to j's by rebuilding with the boiler set higher on the chassis. there was and always will be a need for locos to be convertible to sg since the railways started in this country. i am disgusted with the people who govern us that standardisation isn't being done properly now nor ever done properly and in most cases never done at all. for god's sake, to those who govern us, just bloody do it. it was estimated in an honest report released in the noughties that the ballsup costs industry about $5billion every year. for 2 years of $5billion the job could be done, capital city networks and all.
@dunxy
@dunxy 4 года назад
Hmm, it all depends on perspective. In the final days N class (especially oilies) were seen to do amazing things, boiler up to the anything a driver could ask.
@Dust6156
@Dust6156 4 года назад
I'm aware of two orignial N Class Locomotives left, them being N 432, and SA Railways No. 752 or (N 477) There is also a the N 411 project, which involves turning K 154, into a N class, however I haven't heard anything from this group in some time. Do you its possible well ever see any of these locomotives in operation again?
@reidgck
@reidgck 4 года назад
The project you mention is a big job. One of the drivers on the Mornington preserved line at Moorooduc told me of it about a year back. There are a couple of N boilers apparently available according to Wikipedia, and they can modify the frame of the K and fit a trailing truck that can be salvaged from somewhere. Seems ambitious but hopefully it will steam out of Warragul some day.
@daviobryker
@daviobryker 4 года назад
752 is at NRM port Adelaide but owned by the state historysa not the museum. Would love it running again
@Wb3110
@Wb3110 3 года назад
Would a Boiler from one of the two locomotives still be around?
@Alzaar_The_Gunzel
@Alzaar_The_Gunzel 2 месяца назад
Nope, only 2 full Ns survive, neither being the ones from the video
@Wb3110
@Wb3110 Месяц назад
@@Alzaar_The_Gunzel There is a possibility of N Class Boiler escaping into private use, as there are many boilers which made it into industrial use.
@fordlandau
@fordlandau 4 года назад
Victoria locos looked so 19 th century. And no Victoria locos were ever altered to standard gauge. The last advanced Pacific locos were a limited number of S class in the 1920s. The R class while admirable were too little too late. Victoria railways never was able to create the advanced designs of NSW railways. Thanks.
@reidgck
@reidgck 4 года назад
There were 70 R class main line steam locomotives in Victoria. Pity they came at the end of the steam era. In comparison there were 30 of the NSW 38 class. Fortunately there are some still some Rs in existence in Vic and a few operational which is more than can be said for the unfortunate scrapping of many impressive classes of steam such as in South Australia. Old railway maps of Victoria show, a maze of branch lines for which the bigger locos would have not been suitable. New South Wales maintained some very ancient steam locos even to the end of the steam age which made that system interesting. Each government system was unique in it own way, and the various gauges added more interest. Things have changed now but It is interesting to look back on the railway history of the states and of the nation with all the variations and differences.
@MegaBloggs1
@MegaBloggs1 8 месяцев назад
spell railways correctly
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