Farnborough Class D - Departing Blackbushe

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To depart south from Blackbushe aerodrome, you have to transit Farnborough's controlled airspace
I had been avoiding doing this since the airspace came into effect, but it was time I gave it a go. There's a lot that happens very quickly, and being new to the Piper Arrow too, with all its complexities after take off, I wanted to be comfortable.
The flight continues down to Littlehampton, along to Brighton, north through Gatwick's class D, and then landing back at Blackbushe.
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Комментарии : 103

@Fig330 4 года назад

Mate, I've loved following your evolution. Here's one little tip for you, from someone with 20+ years experience in UK ATC. If the airspace you're in doesn't require you to speak to ATC, you don't need to request permission to leave frequency. It just increases radio traffic for you and the controller. Trust me, no controller that doesn't need to talk to you is going to complain if you just say, for example after departing Blackbushe, "G-ZR, switching to Farnborough, bye". ATC wants to get rid of you as soon as possible, and you should be switching to your next frequency as soon as possible. If you're in range of the next agency and not under a a control service, just go! Say goodbye. If they have anything important for you, they'll tell you.

@robwilkie1 3 года назад

I was thinking the same. I always used to use QSY Farborough - bye - though don’t seem to hear QSY used as much nowadays. Another great video though

@Payne2view 4 года назад

It is a sign of the days we're living through that Gatwick is less busy and more relaxed sounding than Farnborough. The airfield at Farnborough (in contrast to the control centre) gives me the impression of being a snobby corporate jets only place, like Biggin Hill seems to aspire to be too. All the same you did a good job of navigating their control zone.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Robert.

@dr_jaymz 4 года назад

I think you are right. We might have peaked though, people were flight shaming and commercial flying was starting to decline, covid19 has brought that forward. Many places have tried to just have business jets but eventually it goes full circle. I don't really like the fact that there is a two tier system. If your RT is rusty then you're excluded. There should be understanding on both sides.

@PilotLH Год назад

Nice to see this scenic flight out of and back to my local airfield. I’ll be starting my PPL there in October and am looking forward to seeing it from above rather than from the cafe! 😎

@jacksyoutube6600 4 года назад

I saw you on flight radar coming along the south coast. As I live quite near to Littlehampton , I did wonder if it was you flying. Great video👍

@claireskiesahead6567 4 года назад

Brilliant video, it's good to get an insight into the procedures there.

@tadantoniak7121 4 года назад

Very useful, thanks for sharing. Great films.

@shahidsharif 4 года назад

Nicely done!!

@JoeRichardson02 4 года назад

Great video again Jon - certainly seems busy departing / rejoining through the class D, well handled.

@firstfreonwarrior 4 года назад

Really enjoyed, as I live close to Blackbushe (Sandhurst). Thank you.

@HarryT3113 4 года назад

Great video! What a crazy world we live in now where flying over Gatwick is less stressful than flying over Farnborough.

@paulejbuckley 4 года назад

Harry Talboys I thought exactly the same! 😆

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Brilliant

@thomascurry7325 4 года назад

Great video, and really interesting to see what operating inside the new class D is like. As someone who avoids at all costs, but is incredibly close to said airspace (flying out of lasham), it's a really useful perspective

@AlbaSkies 4 года назад

Definitely quite a handful on departure! Well handled. Wouldn't want that to be my first flight post lockdown.

@TheRutlandPilot 2 года назад

Flying out of here tomorrow so checked what to do! Absolutely spot on, cheers

@flyingkub 4 года назад

Now is probably a good time to get into that route before things become more active but you are right, we also need to keep the work load within limits if rusty.

@mikecoffee100 4 года назад

Bravo Well Done.

@stewartwilkinsonsnr 4 года назад

Wow Jon that was busy indeed, thank you for the lovely countryside and coastal views great work 😀

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Cheers Stewart.

@davidcartwright5591 4 года назад

I really enjoyed this video John . You had your hands full but handled it all with aplomb. A great boost to your confidence I would imagine and a flight to remember for all the right reasons . Cheers and fly safe .

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Glad you enjoyed this David.

@JodelFlyer 4 года назад

Very busy flight Jon. Interesting video and a good reference, especially for those of us who tend to fly in areas of limited control zones. Thanks for putting the effort into a great edit, much appreciated.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Tim.

@paulwear1489 4 года назад

Nice flight, lots of busy airspace around so good to get the practice. Great video as always. Paul

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Paul.

@FlightMariner 4 года назад

Great video Jon. Looks like a good bit of fun down there now with the class D and I hear Blackbush is a great visit. May flyin soon for a cuppa and a visit on the way south to see family.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Yes, it's a nice place.

@seanmcerlean 4 года назад

Great video Jon & a beautiful day for it.I hope to be back in the sky from end of August due to the unavailability of training at present.However medical renewal is booked.Thanks again for your service to us Jon. Will join patreon once i have job again, fingers crossed that will also be soon.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Sean. Take care. Good luck with the job-hunting.

@ranh71 4 года назад

Also yes quite tough going I thought, definitely going to take it easy for the first few flights, can't wait Jon!!

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Hopefully not long now!

@kalsikherensk8440 4 года назад

Came back from Florida after completing an EASA FI course, but not the rating, Covid cautions... This video's extremely useful to know the aerodrome, and its challenges, where I intend to finish my FI rating, and maybe, maybe, get a job if they like me and need restricted instructors. Of course if you go north, you've got RAF Benson too, and Odiham if you go west. Takes me back to FTA global days, requesting MATZ penetration of Odiham en-route to Oxford. 2018-19 seems a world away... Many thanks.

@AviatingWithMel 4 года назад

Great video Jon, seemed fairly smooth to be honest, lots to think about yes, but smooth.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

I'll take smooth!

@jasonrwilkinson9216 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing Jon - I think this is a useful video for anyone who is nervous about flying in Class D and/or who lacks confidence on the radio to demonstrate that it's worth the effort learning and practicing (even at home talking to oneself!) and although it comes at you quickly at Blackbushe following departure it is very well organised and procedural. To echo some of the comments below while commercial traffic is light I have received what I'd describe as an enhanced level of service from LARS providers with handovers arranged between neighbouring zones, transits offered etc... without having to ask. GA is undoubtedly keeping ATC providers active and in practice for their roles when it does become busier again.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Jason. Quite a lot of LARS is still closed, Farnborough East and North for example, or operating strange hours. Yeovilton 12-5 this week.

@ranh71 4 года назад

Hi Jon, yes always useful to see how a short hand system is done, thanks again

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks for supporting me Robin.

@ranh71 4 года назад

Thank you Jon, I have enjoyed your journey and learnt a lot from you, It would be nice to have a fly together or meet one day!

@davidhorobin1060 4 года назад

Very nice Jon - your new Piper seems a lot better equipped than the last one - well done. The controlled airspace transits were very interesting - quite a privilege to be able to go over Gatwick. All that new Farnborough controlled airspace really does mess things up these days - what a congested area we fly in.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

You're right David. Fly away from the south east, and life is good!

@kevchilton908 4 года назад

It doesn't get any easier up there, does it? Well done for going for it and getting the first southerly departure under your belt Jon. You should be very pleased with that 👌 👏 👏 👏

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Kevin.

@PilotWright 4 года назад

Lovely job Jon, try it Fairoaks, it’s even more manic!

@neilmurgatroyd3197 4 года назад

I think it's actually easier than it used to be when you had to freecall Farnborough after leaving the Blackbushe ATZ and arrange ATZ penetration (or NOT!) while climbing /loitering above Blackbushe ATZ. At least the complex bit is while you're still on the ground, and they look after you when you're in the class D. It is complicated though, good practice for familiarity with Class D transits. We used to head West and go South through Odiham MATZ, but that takes you closer to the potentially very busy Lasham (and Odiham) glider sites. I have the 2 possible clearances already printed on my kneepad, the 2 VRPs added to the Garmin 430. Great video as usual and a very useful resource for the Blackbushe Airport website I would have thought. Nice job finding Tongham, I think I would have needed a vector. PS Now try it again in IMC!

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Neil. Chris at Blackbushe has sent me his cheat sheet for the clearance - very good. I don't have the experience of operating from there before. Interesting to hear that it's easier. Good to hear from you Neil.

@paulejbuckley 4 года назад

I agree Neil, much easier since now they are already expecting you! 👍🏻

@paulejbuckley 4 года назад

Great job as usual Jon. 1 tip I would suggest is to always copy clearances whilst stationary to ensure you can concentrate on what they are saying and avoid any taxiing deviations! You can always tell ATC to standby whilst you get to a convenient place (e.g. holding point E in this case) and then report ready to copy.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Thanks Paul.

@FlyMuz 3 года назад

Great video, I've just joined your club and will be down on 13 Dec to fly G-SIIX. Quite excited. Would be great to day hello in person if you around.

@stuartessex4535 4 года назад

Thanks Jon, Great and informative video as always. Unless I was mistaken you did your after take off checks twice? Great airmanship, as they say if you are not sure check and check again! P.S great choice of music while flying down the coast..... Stu

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

I have recently been double checking using the checklist, as well as performing the memory checks.

@TheMicroPilot 4 года назад

A nice easy watch on this really hot day! I haven't transitted any airspace in the Heli yet but I'm looking forward to it. Will be difficult with the lack of ability to write things down haha

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

I wonder if ATC adjust what they do accordingly to assist heli pilots.

@TheMicroPilot 4 года назад

@@TheFlyingReporter Interesting thought, I haven't officially heard they do but they might!

@lw1334 4 года назад

As always, informative and lovely video, thank you very much for taking us with you, Jon. A question if I may: Which exact licences and additional ratings do you have? Cheers, stay safe.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Hi. This should be covered in the about/FAQs on my website. www.jonhunt.net

@andrewmartin8739 4 года назад

Great video , but it would have been beneficial for the vast amount of entry to Farnborough chatter to be passed to you by ATC at Blackburn's when stationary as opposed during taxi , enough to think about getting to the holding point ....well done

@johnsorsby251 4 года назад

Hi Jon, Another great video. One observation, and please it is just food for thought. Did you consider waiting until you were at the holding point, stationary with the park brake on before taking the clearance? It would reduce your workload somewhat. As I say absolutely not a criticism, just an observation. I really enjoy your videos.👍👍

@markk5764 4 года назад

Agreed, I would have been straight onto the grass if I had tried that!

@chrisvowell2890 2 года назад

Especially if you're left handed like me!

@molletts 4 года назад

Joining from the south at EGLK has always been a bit hairy where the R/T is concerned even without the CTR - I always tried to get a frequency change no later than overhead the Farnborough runway but there was one occasion as a solo student when I couldn't get a word in with Blackbushe because someone was waffling on frequency and kept fluffing their readbacks and I ended up not contacting BB Info until I was already deadside. I just kept an extra-good lookout and made sure I got the call in ASAP. As my instructor said when I asked him about it afterwards, there wasn't much else I could do - orbiting would have been riskier because of the potential for traffic wanting to depart to the south buzzing around in the overhead while waiting for a an overhead transit of Farnborough to be approved - and you can't just stop & wait!

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

It is a problem Stephen. I think Blackbushe is understanding of this, but I don't want to get an infringement on my record. You could go a bit east or west to avoid, but they're tight gaps.

@AleRon72 4 года назад

The Flying Reporter The current situation - MOR for infringing class G airspace-is crazy

@EuroAviators 4 года назад

Another well made educational video! But oh dear, you guys in the UK make a simple class D transit highly complicated. Maybe the responsible people from NATS should do an internship in France or Scandinavia to make stuff a lot easier. What about Heathrow these days? Can you do a transit or maybe even a low approach/pass there or do they still refuse such requests?

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

They use Class D over here like a higher class of airspace. You can transit the Heathrow CTA, so long as you can glide clear, so I wouldn't do a low approach to Heathrow.

@paulejbuckley 4 года назад

It’s more like a class B transit in the US

@EuroAviators 4 года назад

Thank you both for the explanations. I'm just curious why they make a clearance for a non-airliner airport like Farnborough just (almost) as complicated as for Gatwick or Heathrow. Nonetheless, it was very interesting to watch!

@F70100 4 года назад

With ATZ’s sharing a common boundary, a freecall doesn’t sound like a recipe for success when joining Blackbushe from the south. It’s an ATZ infringement waiting to happen. ATC acknowledge the need for hand overs when going south... Nice video Jon 👍.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

It is a risk of course, and it would be good if there was two way coordination (north as well as south), however, there are places you can go and hold if you need to, but you need to have your eye on the ball.

@trevorbrown8737 4 года назад

Does CRAFT help to write any clearance down: C-clearance R-Routing A-Altitude F-Frequency T-Transponder I always used to find it helpful so you can write down in a good order every time!! It's been a long time though lol

@flybe146 4 года назад

Great video Jon, and wonderful shots outside the aircraft looking at out beautiful Sussex countryside can't wait to get back flying once again myself. Do you connect "Sky Demon" to X-plane 11 to practice using the app?

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

Yes, you can connect SkyDemon to Xplane.

@garysmith2450 2 месяца назад

Hi! I see that particular aircraft g-cbzr is up for sale. I think it’s had a new engine and prop but is there anything you remember about it that’s noteworthy? No worries if not.

@pdawdy 4 года назад

Nicely done. Who are you a reporter for? I used to be one myself in the states.

@andrewpeacock8829 4 года назад

It is good that you are highlighting the increased workload, but what you should be asking is, why was all this additional control imposed and why was it easier to pass through the Gatwick CTR than Farnborough CTA ?

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

I think that's a debate that has been had, and the argument lost I'm afraid.

@paulejbuckley 4 года назад

Also Gatwick is essentially closed right now, whereas Farnborough is very much active.

@catatonickuala 4 года назад

Do you need to pre-notify for the Class D in/out of Blackbushe or just call and hope for the desired routing? I was looking at this before the lock down and seem to remember from the plates that there is a limited number of aircraft permitted in the local flying area part of Blackbushe's ATZ which might limit how many aircraft can be on transits at any one time.

@blues-extrarockband 4 года назад

Great video - thanks for this one, really interesting. Can you tell me which GoPro mount you used on the Hero 4 behind you? I take it it's not a suction mount? Many thanks

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

It's just a sticky shoe mount

@blues-extrarockband 4 года назад

@@TheFlyingReporter Great thanks

@douglasb5046 4 года назад

I know I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again-ace instrument panel.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

yep, it's a looker!

@barisyildirim4167 3 года назад

I would not recommend copying clearances while taxying. Its better to just tell them to stand by and copy when you stop.

@cameronspence7500 4 года назад

Nice one Jon, I've flown around Blackbushe a few times but haven't had the confidence to do it after the introduction of the Class D. I wanted to ask you about your video equipment: do you leave your GoPros on all the time, in flight, or do you turn them on and off remotely? If the latter, how do you do it? I've been experimenting with making videos myself, nothing like the standard of yours, but I'm keen to learn how the pros do it!

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

I usually keep them running throughout, with extended batteries, or battery packs. I have a gopro remote, which you CAN use to turn them all off and on.

@mikecoffee100 4 года назад

Somewhat like IFR interesting Rules over there

@TDPAviationAndGaming 4 года назад

This was a VFR flight.

@mikecoffee100 4 года назад

@@TDPAviationAndGaming ok :)

@rforey 4 года назад

I mean that initial class d clearance would be nearly impossible in a helicopter, where we can’t take our hands off the controls to write down such clearances. Would either need to write it down before lifting, have a very good memory, or depart north and request zone transit from farnborough after takeoff. Not ideal.

@FlySkies 4 года назад

I see you are not using PilotAware on this plane. What do you use for conspicuity now?

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

This aeroplane doesn't have any traffic information devices.

@bensluman1263 4 года назад

You should do a fly in/ meetup once covid is gone

@peterlawrence54 4 года назад

Very helpful video. If your shorthand for clearances is not as good as Jon’s I noticed that Blackbushe provide a “fill the blanks” printable form to record your clearance on their Airport Information web page.

@TheFlyingReporter 4 года назад

I am planning this, yes.

@Shamdouh1 4 года назад

What is your day job ?

@dr_jaymz 4 года назад

I can't help thinking that the whole way we communicate get clearances is very old fashioned and really has its roots in single channel radios from the 1930s. There must be a way to greatly simplify it. At the end of the day it's all about aircraft not being in the same place at the same time and to do that you need to know where they are and where they want to go. I think this is possible with no audio communication at all. It's crazy and dangerous to write down such a complicated clearance, far better to simply have it on the dashboard and visually shown on the map. Then again once the CAA got involved it would be too expensive and not allowed on any aircraft.

@rufatcine 4 года назад

we want to listen to your voice with engine sound..Engine sound very low... Thankss soo

@davejones542 2 года назад

@6:02 I am concerned at that farnborough controllers phraseology. It is not standard. He literally says "GCBZR confirm you hav got clearance to transit..." and his tone is more of a question as though he is asking if you have clearance. . It should be unambiguous - he is giving you a clearance to the next clearance limit. "GCBZR is cleared to transit etc" I personally think that should be MOR for non standard phraseology