Fashion is Spinach 

"I've got diamond bracelets up to my elbows. Would I be happier if they reached my shoulders?" Damn, girl, what a quote though!

Thank you, Karolina! I read this book when I was a student worker at our public library. In the early 1960's! This was the begining of my fascination with the world of high fashion & then backwards into historic fashion. That interwar period really was the hight of the couture world! Another interesting title is 'In My Fashion' by Bettina Ballard. It's hard to find in the US but you might have better luck in Europe.

Huzzah. Another interesting and very niche episode of things I never imagined I would listen and learn about. 😊 Lovely. I googled and the search result says: For Elizabeth Hawes, the American fashion designer, celebrated author, activist, and social critic, it meant the fashion industry is as nonsensical as the statement. But I like a comment that it meant that it keeps her happy and healthy. 😂

Based on the drawing in the beginning you mention, with the mother(mainstream fashion) feeding broccoli (whatever was in "style") to her daughter (Elizabeth) who decides it's spinach and says it's pure rubbish .. so in conclusion I got: fashion is whatever you make of it. Wear what you love and to hell with the labels. Love ya Carolina! Long time fan meme mum.

No way this drops right as I open RU-vid

It is so eerie how so many of her comments sound completely modern. There's nothing new under the sun!

Just missed my bus and have to wait an hour for the next one (live in the middle of nowhere) so this was absolutely perfect timing. Thanks ❤

I feel the “I like this type of clothing but I can’t find it anymore because it’s not trendy anymore” so much!!! I like a type of legging that goes past the knee but it’s not full length, a little less is also fine, like covering just till the knees, because I use them to exercise in summer and I don’t like showing my thighs while exercising, but it’s been hard to find lately because apparently they’re not trendy anymore. I only have two, one I don’t like the color that much (it was a gift) but whatever, and the other has a tiny hole that I have to fix because I fell while skating. And now I can’t exercise peacefully with them on because of the anxiety of what will happen if they break in a way that can’t be fixed 🥲💔

I went to fashion design school and have encountered modern fashion designers. High end designers. A lot of them cannot sew a stitch. In fact, Parsons still doesn’t require you to sew. Still today, average fashion figures are at least 9 heads tall, some go up to 11. I never bought into the cult of personality around designers. Behind every big name designer, chances are there’s a team of skilled artisans doing the heavy lifting.

Absolutely love this podcast series - one of my favorites 🥰

ayoooo early presence on a Karolina Zebrowska video!!!!

Ooooh I realized the Mrs Nicole Groult who gave Elizabeth a job is Benoîte Groult's mother! Benoîte Groult (Groo) was a famous first-wave feminist who wrote many books, including autobiographical content. In a book that I read where she speaks of her mother, her mom came home one day and said to her adult daughter something like hi I was just at my lover's, I wish you too have fun and make love at 60 just like me! 😁 What Elizabeth says about her being a rule breaking free spirit ties in well with what her daughter writes of Nicole :)

I’ve been checking everyday for a new episode!

The person looks like Britanny brosky and I can’t unseen it

Thanks!I always look forward to your new content, happy 4th of July everybody needs independence

1:05 HOWEVER- *youtube decides to play an ad* lol idk why but it made me laugh

Children used to be forced to eat spinach, because it was "good" for them, even though they didn't like or enjoy it, they needed the nutrition it provided, in the days before effective multivitamins. I was anemic as a little girl, and ate canned spinach nearly every blessed day,*sigh* I still don't care for spinach. . .

❤check the thrift shops for those things you want that are out of fashion ☘️🍀💚🍀☘️😘💕💞💕🖖🤷🏼‍♀️👍

Karolina, is there anyway you can increase the volume when recording these? I have trouble hearing them.

She is great

I just want to say, I really appreciate TEXTORY. 💗 It might be my most favorite podcast, and because of you, I got into history and I'm able to connect and understand the people from the past and how they lived their life! (⁠✿⁠^⁠‿⁠^⁠) 🌸💖

I was thinking about Channel when you read that most designers design for themselves.

"The hypocrisy of fashion" 🙌🏻

interesting story

Is this 'Emily in Paris' but actually... good?

I heard you say, Karolina, that having read the book, you are no closer to understanding what the author meant by "Fashion is Spinach". I have not read the book. I clicked on the title to find out what "Fashion is Spinach" actually meant. I still don't know. And that's okay to not know what I don't know!😉

Fashion has always been "fast" it's the Clientele that got slow 😎☕💋

Know the difference between style, fashion and elegance. As for the shoe you are looking for visit a cobbler. Have the shoe copied

Awww-ye! Interwar fashion shenanigans, & Pilzudski(sic?) is in his blocky-headed prime! Constantly trying to step down as dictator of Poland, but Poland keeps going, "naw bro, keep domming me!"

I’m assuming she means fashion is spinach in where it withers away with time?

The book was only about 300 pages? 😊

*"Fashion"* means nothing to someone who has *style.*

I went to audible to find the audio book for this and it's so bad!! The narrator reads it like some sort of erotica and the cover image for it looks like a poorly photoshopped dropship ad 😭😭

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_say_it%27s_spinach

One nasty aspect of modern fashion is the side effects of bodycon. The tight or revealing clothes aren’t inherently bad. The pressure to remold your body to resemble a photoshopped ideal while wearing bodycon is.

i may have said this before: i have a couple of rich frat boy of the 1800s self published travel books, harriette wilson's memoirs, a few other bits and bobs... if you ever want me to scan some, let me know!

To me, "fashion is spinach," is her way of saying fashion keeps her alive an healthy. She wouldn't be happy without it.

The woman who wrote this book seems like she was very observant and din't want to compromise ethics for fashion.

Spinach wilts quickly and soon dies. As fashion is "in" then very quickly "out". I think that's what she meant.

Wasn't the US cartoon character Popeye created to encourage children to eat spinach? (Spinach was seen as iron-rich and healthy, but unpleasant to eat.) At some point, broccoli seems to have taken over its place as something children have to eat, even if it tastes unpleasant. So the child realises that the new, trendy vegetable she is being offered is just like the old vegetable - she doesn't really enjoy it, and (to hell with it!) she's not going to take part.

Fashion Pashion Pashicn Spahicn Spanich Spinach

I strongly recommend "Elegance" by Genevieve Antoine Dariaux! There was an (imcomplete) reprint recently, but I have an original 1964 edition and boy, does it deliver!

I'm also curious about the meaning of spinach here. I'm guessing it means something frivolous and unnecessary with little substance? Something you can eat forever and never be satisfied by. But honestly no idea I hope someone knows more

So if you want more coverage/modesty in a bathing suit, Land's End company is the place to look. Good luck!

These are cool and all, but I miss the videos. 😢

I think the title means fashion is whatever the designer says it is. This was such an interesting podcast! I love insider info!

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I used to have an *enormous* walk in closet full of clothes, but most only got worn on occasion. I recently moved and went through all of my clothes and realized that half of them I only wore consistently for a year or so before buying newer clothes, and none of them were even to the style that I really wanted to wear anyway, they were just what happened to be at Target that year

*@**8:50**:* "Boucher" (French for "butcher") is my aunt Louise's family name. And Nicole happens to be another French-Canadian aunt of mine.

Back then, kids were stereotypically unfond of spinach. The kid saying, "well it may be broccoli but to me it's spinach" kind of means "whatever, they are all icky green things you are trying to make me eat." So...if fashion is spinach...Something necessary and nutritious but has a bad taste/is distasteful? Hmmm. Don't know. Thanks for the interesting reading!

This was hilarious! Drinking game movies are funny of y’all

I'd like to put in a request for a review of 1999's tv show "Aristocrats". I thought the costumes were unusually beautiful, but were they accurate? Give it a look, please!

Question for Karolina: Do you record your episodes in a studio? The vocal quality is very enjoyable! 👌

I took it as Fashion is what I say it is. I'm fascinated that the fabric makers saw the small dressmakers not necessarily as customers, but loss leaders. New people just keep cumming up and have ot learn the same old lessons.

i had to stop watching because the audio balance makes it so my ears are booty blasted by advertisements please double check the levels on the next video because i can’t be rocking the volume like im a deep house dj

Tak muzyka w tle jak z challengers ❤

Im extremely early! Woah!

What a fun episode!

Loving the fashion history! "Fashion is Spinach" may mean that Fashion can be unpleasant. But living through the experience makes you stronger.