Fast Bikes Sportsbike of 2018 shootout 

Jonathan Pontel - I ❤️ my RSV4 soooooo much.

I got my boy a 2007 zx10r 6k on miles for $3,000....He had a 05 gsxr 1000 he bought from a guy and it had a blown head gasket he didn't know about so we did it for 3000 and he got a 2003 Honda CBR 954rr he is a Honda guy but felt it wasn't new enough so we sold it and got the zx10r now his happy....

So?

@first last my zx10r was an excellent purchase.

You mad the best decision.... i bet you still got zero problems with that bike a year later lets ask the rest of the competition.... oh wait they are at the shop getting shit fix 🤣✌

Smart buy, a few minor upgrades with the brake lines and that thing will slay on the canyons and track. That crossplane and akra sound is unmatched till this day 🙌

@@JeffSana30 I put the graves full titanium race exhaust on it, with the active tune from flash tune and graves sent me a custom map. The brake lines are all stainless braiding. I still want to get brembo calipers for it though.

We've a few friends with special RSVs, one a WSB spec' chassis and electronics with a Superstock spec' motor - weapon!

Hail to Max the Emperor

did u get much more room with rear sets, im 6 3, fear bike may be too small

I can't say, it's all down to the rider and their leg/hip ratios. It may be a bit cramped for you.

Some of us are over 6-foot and have never had any issues, even with rearsets, skinny bike but long, plenty of room to move about etc, partly what also makes it a darn fine road bike to boot.

How you find the Graves pipe on the RSV4? For the money it looks killer, I ended up going for the titanium Project SC Racing Oval (good power, sounds deep, not too loud etc)?

i can say the same things and much more for my lightly tuned ’16 Bmw RR

You're right, just a pipe and a map, extra tooth on the rear and it's amazing (if still a bit big and cumbersone in relation to the rest). But we test out of the crate, what the consumer buys first and foremost and, as such, it's a little lacking in some areas - but still awesome!

ECU flash really takes the cork out of it.

I think it's the best bike for all around use, and the one I'd most seriously consider.

As you can see, the 2011-2015 was REALLY restricted in stock form. www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/2012%20zx10%20stk%20vs%20package.gif

its the superbike winner because of the riders...the bikes great and makes great power but its at the bottom of the barrel next to all of these masterpieces

Cheers Forrest!

Bingo!

If you meat is shit, no matter how good the gravy, it's still going to be shit :p

Ted C Oh this is a well sound comment! Think the Pani will improve in time they probably need to further improve the chasis having said that, the margins are small and all of these bikes are good. The chasis and engine of the Aprilia has been a blessing to many riders around the globe NOW you can get these at decent prices compared to some of the others! Aprilia deserves to sell more just for a Thank you. And I hope they get some out of their MotoGP and make the next step.

54 world titles , is the answer my friend. 😉

Any of them would be amazing!

Just buy the 1290 Super Duke R. Forget the rest. hahaha

@@exothermal.sprocket H2R

@@Scholar4777 if you live on a race track.

Yup it's like bloody Pokemon, get them all

Ditto that. I personally have owned Aprilias since 2006. My absolute favorite Sport Bike!

Yeah, loads of championships on 125cc and 250cc years ago!

Aprilia have the most wins because 9 out of 10, 125 and 250 bikes were aprilias. They'd have a bloody tough job on their hands to NOT win... Whereas in the litre bike world aprilias did nothing.. and never will.

i own an aprilia and its just the best of its class

They should change the alien looks of the bike.looks worst

A pleasure sir!

Bobby Backmarker thanks!

Cheers!

All those, plus loads more stuff like speed and a heap more detail are all in the magazine Jay, link in the description if you're interested.

Fast Bikes Magazine ok. Thanks

Like if it really matters,too much bike for the road!

Ross ok Gramps 😕

@@ross5506 keep telling yourself that buddy, if you're too afraid of riding one of them!

I help anytime why do you say that ? I’m interested in hearing your opinion

Thank you Gerhard!

Ha!

Bruce Wayne thanks!

Are you addressing Jesus, or the internet?

@@exothermal.sprocket 😂😂😂😂😂

Exodus 20:7 (KJV) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. How would you like it if I used Bruce Wayne as a cuss word every day? Just saying, think about it.

Lifted_Above I can’t tell if you’re being very funny or very stupid.

Bike World did a great job!

Tyres were the right size for the Panigale, and the bike (like the Aprilia) has a tyre calibration system which mates it to the electronics - tyres have to be the same on all bikes for a fair assessment, given the wide range of performance from OE hoops.

Cheers Ed!

Liya ki nahi??

less than 10 miles form me - have you actually looked for one?

3 within 45 mins of me

James Arendell about a 40min. Drive for me. Could be double that and I still wouldn't hesitate. I went with the Tuono and it's such a good bike I'd happily drive 2hrs if needed. 9k miles and haven't had an issue so far.

James Arendell 14Km's mate

James Arendell Do you want the best or not? They are quite ok with reliability.

Rupesh Singh it goes to the repair shop a lot ?

ZX10rjet can’t say it does Have a 18 RF No repairs yet, no recalls No nothing And if it gives me issues I have the full warranty Oh and if I decide to sell because it has issues I’ll get.. let’s say how much in return?? How much will the ninja get? I’m guessing stereotypical ninja with the loud pipe snapped off the rev limiter and all top end squid mode engaged? I’m thinking the return will be less than my ARAI helmet?

Marc Meier greetings back Marc

Against the rest? Yeah it does, although it doesn't stop it from being an ace machine, which it is, they all are!

Jay Young It would place dead last. To my knowledge hasn’t been touched since 2011.

The MV AGUSTA F4 is a terrible bike. The MV AGUSTA F3 is a better bike and you saw how it did. The best bike is the BMW hands down. Much better than the Aprilia RSV4 and Ducati. I've owned and tracked most of these bikes.

@@mikek545 how is it a terrible bike? You ever rode one...

Midnight Yes I rode my friends F4. He bought one and sold it after 2 months. Plus the brand comes and goes with different owners and financial problems. The best bike is the bmw, or Aprilia. Ducati and Kawi isn’t bad either.

@@mikek545 Yeah thats all great buddy, I ask again how is a TERRIBLE bike?

That would be fun!

They didn't sell well in the states at dealers I went too. I like the sound of a piped RC8 at the track but seeing them sit at dealers unsold was sad

I'd rather have a handle-bar clad naked bike racing category. 1290 SDR is miles more fun in every motorcycle use-case than any racetrack focused razor.

Maybe... ;-)

Yeah it's a problem we've had on them, on three different bikes now, but then not on every one we've ridden on track. So, there's an issue somewhere but not with all bikes it seems. Pot luck, probably...

Thank you!

Thank you!

Word! It's amazing, they all are, it's so very tight between the lot!

Loads of other info, laptimes, speeds, more in-depth analysis of each of the bikes and why they finished where they did is in the magazine. Link in the description above if you're interested!

The new one solves that problem.Good luck with the reliability, though...

So don’t get it.

you're a fucking genius...

Drigo Poster that’s right 👍

sometimes stupid people do not know they are stupid, like that comment right ? putting an 800cc vs 1000cc and crying about lack of power while ignoring that the F4 exists

I thought the same thing but this test was conducted in 2018, and according to my research that was the last year of F4 production. They only made 100 bikes and they sold for $83,000 each. They should have included it, but the exclusivity and everything may have made it impossible.

Despite having virtually the same displacement. Add another 200cc to the other bikes and they would spank the Ducati V4 even further.

@@nickcardillo5021 it got beat by the MV F3 800 which had less power and still was over a second faster around the track

Front tire was in the air!

Ta!

PrimiusLovin it will shame cars up to 1/2M and hang with 1M+ cars in many ways except for top speed. That’s why superbikes (1000s or larger)are king for the $$$.. but you increase your risk of dying by only a few thousand %😂😂

unfortunately not true with an average driver/rider most of the time on tracks or on road a modern hot hatches will be faster, bikes are harder to ride fast (getting easier with the electronics though) but with a good rider a bike would be quicker on the average track,

Perhaps, but I'm going to give you an obvious example of how ridiculous the price/performance difference can get between motorcycles and cars, e.g @ - Pikes Peak Hill Climb: A 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport, a fairly expensive race car, is 1.5 seconds faster than... get ready for it, "a 2009 Aprilia SXV450"!!

an example how a factory race bike prepared specifically to go up pike peak with a cost of about 100k originally and a 75k road car, this year a 2.5 tonne standard Bentley SUV was only 58 sec slower than the record holding factory prep KTM, there are no real straight forward comparisons between cars and bikes and cost,

Yes there is a straightforward comparison: '10:35.354' (2009 Aprilia SXV450: $8799) VS '10:33.897' (2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport: $165,000)!!

None available, MV sold all their F4s, none were available and the final F4 special edition isn't out until next month

Fast Bikes Magazine That's the most surprising thing I heard this year. Mv Agusta is selling all their stock... Who would had guessed.

As it happens, MV sell just about every bike they make every year, overall numbers are low, around 12,000, but every one goes!

F3>F4

Fastbikes you can borrow my f4 1078rr if you want to see how it stacks up against the current generation.

H2 has been in before a couple of years back (it didn't do too bad either), but it's not an out and out superbike. HP4 (the Race we're assuming) is too expensive, we try and keep things at least somewhere sensible when it comes to the bikes involved.

Fast Bikes Magazine, I must admit I confused the HP4 with the previous HP road legal, and no longer available. Not sure when they stopped making the HP possibly a couple of years or so.

Yeah it was, last time we had one was 2014 we think!

Cuz the hp4 is 80,000, and h2 is supercharged, and won't do too well on track.

Yeah, only 80,000, you say that like it's expensive or something-hahaha!

Bingo! Some would say never buy anything first gen', as in anything (like one of us did with a silly expensive laptop a couple of years ago - headslap...). That being said, quite often a bike is knocked out of the park at the first attempt dynamically speaking. But evolution of something that's already brilliant? Can't go wrong!

It worked just fine, tyres were the right size and the bike has a tyre calibration system which mates it to the electronics, same as the Aprilia which was also 'tuned' for a different tyre, or 'developed on', rather.

Thank you!

Must say, stacks more info on this test in the magazine, lap times, speeds, more detail and analysis etc, link to it in the description above if you're interested.

Cheers! Yeah be interesting to see what they come up with!

6 foot 2" here, and have toured on an RSV in complete comfort, and it didn't break down! Also ran one for six months commuting through winter a couple of years back, no problems there either. It's a far better road bike than many would credit it being. The Gixer is though, as you say, a brilliant machine all round, only missing two of the BMW's creature comforts to make it completely perfect.

Who told you the RSV4 was uncomfortable. I'm on my second, and have put 23000 miles between them. I'm NEVER uncomfortable, though sometimes my brain is frazzled!

My brother owned one and I rode it quite a bit. He's in the military, I'm a triathlete, none of us could ride for more than 3 hours on that thing (we're both over 6ft tough...). Great looks and amazing sound, but shit ergos and embarrassing reliability.

Lucky man! :-)

That GSXR is GORGEOUS!!! Awesome color combo!

DynamiteDirk lol hell of a comment love it.

DynamiteDirk I agree the flip flops are a must!

gsxr is like the mustang of the moto world...

Most underrated bike, such a potential bike and manufacture

We can't wait to see it!

The man likes what the man likes - nowt wrong with that, and the R1 is still boss, like every bike here!

They shouldn't, it's an incredible next generation weapon (and one hell of a road bike), it's just there are other bikes that are easier to ride fast, simples!

Put 1100cc engines in any of the rest, and suddenly the strength of Ducati becomes as average as the others are.

Ducati 1199 Panigale S here. This was total crap! Totally unfair biased bs. Bahwafugah fookishima atwatah... Did you mean crazy like that? I was surprised to see the V4 that far from first but it didn't bother me. I want that RSV4 bad! I'd buy it even if it was in last place. I mean obviously since I ride on top of a furnace with 170 hp I call the bucking bronco.

It’s a bike for show and looks. They are a lot of work to ride hard on the track. Virtually no amateur [not factory supported] racers ride any generation of Panigale.

The track had a hand in things, no doubt, and you can't do anything other than say it how you find it, can you? This year, at this track, this is the way things were. And some of the differences are explainable, like this was the BMW 'Sport' S thou', a better version than we had last year which helped bump it above the Gixer and the R1M, with the new (not out last year) Ducati splitting them. The ZX SE was enough of an upgrade on the RR to place it above the blade this time around, etc etc. There's not actually massive differences if you really think about it and, of course, there's method to our madness...

Fast Bikes Magazine I guess I can understand some of that reasoning however the BMW beating the R1M on any track is a suspect result considering their record on track in the “real” race world, the R1 kills that bike everywhere on every track all day long. The Bimmer was placed tooooo high on a “fastest/agility bike test” not to raise eyebrows considering it’s record on track when placed against its rivals, and I don’t even like Ducati but it was too low considering its record on track, etc. Fagen should have done the timed laps I think the change of the final test rider was key. The change in track played a part but the tell, tell signs were the placement of track focused bikes to their street Bike rivals.

Fella, comparing proddy bikes with any racing results is a bit pointless, far too many variables goes into making a bike race worthy, even in Superstock classes, and that's before you even include the meat in charge. Though going by your reasoning, in the closest to proddy bike classes, Superstock, the R1 is getting its arse handed to it in BSB and the European series that runs with WSB, usually by BMWs. But honestly, even saying that means very little, and if you move up to WSB or whatever, the irrelevance to how proddy bikes compare against each other is so huge as to make it completely meaningless - aside from in manufacturer marketing departments of course! As for the man doing the lapping, they're about the same pace, the only real difference is one of them prefers far too much cheese on his burger! So, again, otherwise differences are pretty much completely explainable and bikes like the RSV, R1 and BMW have been up the top of the charts for years already anyway, for good reason.

Fast Bikes Magazine maybe in the states it’s different and in WSBK but R1 routinely beats the Bimmer and it’s not even a question. I realize though that those bikes are a lot different from stock bikes that goes without saying but in our stock and superstock races here the results are the same R1 on top, Ducati on top, Bimmer DNF. Like I said it wasn’t just the R1 but it also beat a Ducati on track, lol that’s crazy. Also I’ve seen those two test riders on other reviews and the heavier one usually is on top, and is readily admitted to be faster by the skinny guy, lol! Anyway, anytime results change that dramatically where bikes that have actually been improved get worse placement in a test you know there have been other changes which affected the results, and the two things here are the track and the rider, my money is on the rider being the flaw. Also current BSB standing have the BMW at 9 & 10 with the R1 3 places ahead!

Er, there's no way in hell Bruce would admit to being slower than Fagan (if he even is), the same goes the other way around though, ex racers both, neither would ever give quarter to another, verbally or on track, so not sure where you saw that! :-) The BSB thing, that's Superbikes not Superstock, and as we said the further up the class chain you go the more irrelevent any comp' becomes. Yeah Yamaha have been big guns in the States for a while, they were the only manufacturer to really support the racing over there after the AMA debacle and the 'dark times' (we won't speak their name...) thereafter until Rainey and Co came in to save the day and, even then, Yamaha have still been the most proactive manufacturer since then too (bar Yoshi Suzuki of course, and now Ducati are getting involved too), in all the classes, with the best support which also attracts the best teams and riders and, furthermore, racing also depends on the ruleset, some rules gives some bikes a wee bump up by proxy. So, racing/proddy comps, best left alone really, proper big minefield we can go back and forth with for hours! Cheers for the chat brother!

He dont like this video, he sell RSV4 and buy a Panigale V4 :D

Aprilia is just better and faster bike for the track, has amazing chassis, but i agree with you that Ducati its better for street, has 100cc more and its newer bike. These are pro riders. But Kawasaki dominated in WSBK!!! :)

Jim Clarke to bad it’s an ugly bike

Andrew S @6:57,"Ducati Panigale 959 Corsa is eeeaasily the most beautiful bike in the contest". Yet it is rated last at #9.

H2 is the best looking bike to me.

Actually you'll find 44 said the same thing as us, the RSV is easier to go faster on and is generally faster over a lap. This test (SBOTY) was purely about dynamics, our usual tests take in all aspects but this one test per year, SBOTY, is different, and there's as much point comparing different tests looking for different criteria (as theirs was), as there is comparing any test results with racing results - it's pointless. The Aprilia wins here because it has the least flaws which by proxy allows it to lap the fastest, ergo, it's the best dynamically of the bunch, which is what this test is all about in the first place.

9enius exactly probably just different riders and differences of opinion every racer likes the r1 as well but not in this case

They both said the RSV4 is faster because the V4 Pani is really wild/hard to ride.

Tom J. O exactly.. The rsv4 was the faster/the fastest during both tests

Ehm Ee in a straight line no

@aztec Warrior, nobody really cares about straight line. We're talking laptimes.

A flash and an extra tooth on the rear - boom!

What? Really? By who?! Hey, if there's money floating about we don't know about, you better tell us where it is! ;-)

8 kilos under yep MCN yes Fast Bikes no

Thank you good sir!

yep it's called MCN where you review sports bikes on cattle grids, lol

George soros pays them .... 😉

battalion113 thanks