FASTER THAN YOU CAN BLINK! A History of Formula One Gearbox Construction

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This is one of those ones that randomly pops up in discussion. Who was the first to do this? Or this? When did this start happening? And so on.
So I thought it would make a good video. We hear about transverse gearboxes and such but why pick them? What advantages did they have? And what about all this seemless shift stuff?
So with that said, I went through the history books to look at how F1 gearboxes went from similar to the stuff you'd find in a road car to being ultra advanced mechanical beasts that can change gear almost instantly.
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@AidanMillward 2 месяца назад

Probably not the best topic to cover when you're probably going through a bit of a mental health rough patch but screw it. It was something that came up that I wanted to share so there is that.

@mr.fister4738 2 месяца назад

What's wrong, mate?

@AidanMillward 2 месяца назад

@@mr.fister4738 Just having a moment. Wa son anti depressants about 8 years ago when I got incredibly ill, might just be one of those days where I feel like shit and don’t want to do anything. Usually when you notice a dip in quality in videos, I’m usually just having a bad week or so. I’ll be fine.

@John-River 2 месяца назад

@@AidanMillwardwishing you the best mate. Going through a rough patch myself and your videos are a great way to immerse myself into our favorite past time.

@thejamespitcherable 2 месяца назад

@@AidanMillwardTake care of yourself, if you ever need to take a break from videos we'll still be here

@blijvendvertrek 2 месяца назад

@@AidanMillward Take care! Wishing you all the best.

@TANGYHATCHY 2 месяца назад

There’s only ONE British bloke this blue collard American racing history fanatic trust to tell these type of stories and it’s you Aidan. Stay true to you man. I mean it when I say you educate a WHOLE generation of people on subjects they would likely never come across all the information or know to research in the first place without you!

@frozentspark2105 2 месяца назад

Or Donald Davidson (Indianapolis 500 historian)

@TANGYHATCHY 2 месяца назад

@@frozentspark2105 never heard of the dude. Rather support my local Indiana man and pundit David land

@theunknownstuntman4010 2 месяца назад

"Strap in cos this is gonna be a bit geekier than usual" Mate they're the best ones for me

@NickTaylorRickPowers 2 месяца назад

Yeah we got the tism touch

@pranc236 2 месяца назад

Lol. Me too! A little outside of Aidens comfort zone but he did a very solid job.

@michaelmcgovern8110 2 месяца назад

Geeks Rock Geeks Rule (Yes: they do. They run everything, you see. We've been letting you Alpha dopes think otherwise since High School).

@raykaufman7156 2 месяца назад

In the 1970s, the Weismann company built a F1 gearbox that used a completely different shift design and operating principle. The shift mechanism lived INSIDE the gear shafts, and shifts were instantaneous, as when the driver pulled the lever, the trans was ALREADY in the next gear....yeah, magic. Patrick Weismann alluded to the project on his FB page, and I've seen a couple of period photos of the internals. Ive never found any detailed info on how it worked. Still top secret after all these years.

@palm92 2 месяца назад

Weismann also did that funky 7-speed manual for Brabham for the BT55.

@Surestick88 2 месяца назад

I wonder if it was anything similar to an internal gear bicycle hub (think the three speed Sturmey Archer hubs on British bikes though there are more modern, complex ones currently made, Rohloff being the cream of the crop). They use pawls on the axle to lock certain sets of planetary gears to the axle and unlock others. The pawls are controlled through the hollow center of the axle, either by a sliding mechanism or rotating one.

@simontravers2715 2 месяца назад

A customer told me about Senna at Monaco, while steering right, using his now upside down left hand to change gear mid corner! The man was a wizard!!

@BobbyGeneric145 2 месяца назад

Senna was driving on a level beyond anyone else... Beyond consciousness as he said it.

@pranc236 2 месяца назад

That was crazy but what he was doing with his feet while do that was where the magic was. That laps blows my mind every time.

@simontravers2715 2 месяца назад

It’s moments like that where he out qualified Prost by 1.5 secs at 🇲🇨

@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 2 месяца назад

0:39 random Segway - I always forget then remember the Michael was actually a Nike sponsored athlete during the mid90s- early 2000s I’m surprised on an unrelated note they haven’t tried to make a comeback into motorsports considering the “boom” F1 is in and also knowing their subsidiary brand Jordan the man up top another “The Michael” is quite the motorsport enthusiast

@martin_in_the_alps 2 месяца назад

I remember Ross Brawn explaining the gearshift as follows: when you shift into the next gear, for example from first in second, for a brief moment both gears are actually engaged and before the forces go critical it goes full in the second.

@jamesharrison3537 2 месяца назад

Pre-war power levels weren't surpassed until the turbo era of the 80's. You should watch "Supercharged Grand Prix Cars 1924-1939 (full version)" And do they rev the engine on down shifts to protect it, or stop you semi locking up the rear wheels?

@LamboCoin_Cars 2 месяца назад

7:41 I was like 'let me guess, Minardi?' Got a laugh when it was true!

@kevinkohler2750 2 месяца назад

"Clutchlessly" is a perfectly cromulent word.

@mattireland6841 2 месяца назад

Aiden talking about gearboxes!? Oh ya, this scrtaches the tism

@aggrobernd 2 месяца назад

With all my fandom for Minardi, I didn't know that they were the first to consistently run a dicast gearbox. Cool pub quiz fact to know.

@agonzo626 2 месяца назад

Keep up the videos mate. Reading articles or Wikipedia only gets you so far, but hearing someone tell stories like you do is better.

@RichardSFord 2 месяца назад

@6:11 I don't think Senna was "lifting and slamming" in that Suzuka clip from '89. It looks and sounds like he was shifting through more than one gear before releasing the clutch. You can see Johnny Dumfrees do a similar thing during the onboard of Australia 1986. If you just lift and slam a manual on the downshift without rev matching, you're going to under-rotate the rear wheels and spin out.

@devilbub8709 2 месяца назад

The 1961-63 Pontiac Tempest SD-421 had a 2 speed automatic transaxle borrowed and modified from the Corviar, however they were doubled up to produce 4 speed semi automatics. The car was front engine rear wheel drive, but the transmission was a transaxle for better weight distribution. The 1963 Pontiac Tempest win at Daytona is one of my favorite stories

@martykath4427 2 месяца назад

I didn't hear about when cassette gearboxes were introduced. or the following- straight cut, spiral bevel, rotary drum shifting and the concentric clutch master cylinder' oh and electric shift. A Ferrari engineer developed a solenoid shifted box because there was no room for a mechanical linkage. I'm doing an Oliver Twist, there's much more to this story.

@NBSV1 2 месяца назад

Seeing one of these, or any high level formula car trans in person it becomes amazing how tiny they are and can still handle the power. Even just the gears almost seem like they should be in a 100hp motorcycle and not a several hundred hp formula car. Granted the lightweight of a formula car and relatively low torque of the engines means you don’t need as big and heavy components.

@nitrous36 2 месяца назад

Uploaded 7 minutes ago. Literally got to be the earliest I've ever caught one of your uploads. 😀 Just in time for lunch.

@AidanMillward 2 месяца назад

But it’s dinner time.

@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 2 месяца назад

I’m currently winding down at work haha

@nitrous36 2 месяца назад

@AidanMillward In the UK. But I'm not in the UK. 😂

@DasE30Cuz 2 месяца назад

Cast titanium is something that has never once crossed my mind. Now I'm going to have to read everything on it or I won't sleep either. (It's already 5:41 AM)

@palm92 2 месяца назад

A thing I found very interesting is the brief reversion to 5-speed manuals in the first part of the turbo era, from 1980-1985 (with the exception of the 6-speed manual Honda cars and the Porsche stuck with a 5-speed until 1987.) These were dog-leg boxes with this pattern. The last car with a 5-Speed was the Brawn designed Arrows A11/A11B. R 2 4 1 3 5

@polygonvvitch 2 месяца назад

Your videos always brighten my day, love hearing about motorsports history.

@gordonwallin2368 2 месяца назад

Very good video, Aidan. These gearboxes all seem like Dual-clutch motorcycle transmissions complete with blipping. These are street bikes, so the technology is infiltrating everything. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

@Surestick88 2 месяца назад

Very few motorcycles use dual clutch transmissions. I think you're thinking of a sequential dog box. The last time I was anywhere near an F1 car on a track was 15-20 years ago and you could clearly hear the sound of the dogs engaging, a sort of 'bang' or loud 'tock' sound. A dog box doesn't need to be sequential though as the dogs basically just take the place of the synchros on a regular manual.

@TheFleckening 2 месяца назад

I've fruitlessly wondered about this for embarassingly too long. Thank you for clarifying!!

@LucasOliveira-tt2ll 2 месяца назад

Who knew 30 years ago that manuals on sportscars would become a premium and those quirky fast double clutch flappy gears is the norm. All in the name of scalping and profits

@dc9344 2 месяца назад

Nearly 100k Let's go!!!

@izzdin6228 2 месяца назад

I find it interesting that F1 gearbox evolution went from H-pattern shifter straight to paddle shifters. While other series like Indycars, sportscars, touring cars and rally went more naturally from H-pattern to sequential stick to paddle shifters. On the other hand Nascar has only recently transitioned to sequential sticks after driving H-pattern for so long.

@RACECAR 26 дней назад

And interestingly, now using more then just 4 gears as well. Granted for a while, having only two Road Courses on a schedule predominately consisting of Ovals big and small did make having more then 4 seem pointless but the ever increasing influence of Road Racing influence coming over to Nascar (be it the drivers, the tracks or the coaching) is making quite a compelling case to have that 5th gear.

@3Dsjk 2 месяца назад

In the early 2000's, World Rally Car gearboxes could change through the gears from 1st to 6th and back down to 1st in less time than it takes a manual gearbox to change one gear. If you want some fun gear change footage, John Frankenheimer's Grand Prix from 1966 is great. A lot of the in-car pedal footage was shot at Riverside Raceway, and one of the drivers was able to replicate all of the gear changes for a lap of Monaco on the track's 1.1 mile straightaway.

@wabba67 2 месяца назад

Good stuff, learned something new. Suggestion for follow up video: exotic materials used in engines in the late 90s and early 2000s (or did you already cover this?).

@dascooter8287 2 месяца назад

Excellent breakdown.

@teabagmcpick889 2 месяца назад

The Hewland website specifies 'lift and slam' as being the preferred option for both up and down and the one that is kindest to the gearbox - if done correctly. You only need the clutch for starting and stopping.

@henriquequevedo4705 2 месяца назад

Love these types of videos 👌

@sparky60ful 2 месяца назад

The Lotus 49 used a ZF gearbox with synchromesh gears in the early years. And roller bearing sliding output shafts. Nicely constructed. No gear ratios could be changed.

@pranc236 2 месяца назад

Great job aiden. You have never claimed to be a technical guy but you stuck to what you do and still got s little technical. 👍 Gearboxes in general have made huge leaps in the past 15-20 years. Look at WRC, they all basically run the same gearboxes and AWD systems. There is a sequential dog box that is kind of the best of both worlds. V8 supercars and nascar now use this type of gearbox.

@MaxScheibenpflug 2 месяца назад

Very interesting, many thanks!

@directorofnolearning 2 месяца назад

This is geeky and nerdy as all fuck... And I love it!

@anthonyhastings5961 2 месяца назад

5:26 I used to live in the same road as Dave Wass. His daughter is my sister’s best friend

@saintuk70 2 месяца назад

As much as it had its issues, loved my very first DSG back in 2003 in the (I'm braced) TT. Dual Sequential Gearbox - and yes, in first third was already selected... etc etc. Loved it and had a few of them too.

@AidanMillward 2 месяца назад

The one in my old company car was great too. Hyundai Ioniq. Had a guy in his 3 series crying at the lights. 🤣

@user-xq6fj2sd7z 2 месяца назад

Brilliant episode

@IndaloMan 2 месяца назад

@aiden this type of content is why I watch all your videos. You have researched it, scripted and presented it. Unlike many other motorsports channels. Keep at it please!

@jjharson7344 2 месяца назад

Hey Aidan, like the other posts, your content is always great, some better than others but there has not been one video you have made that I have not enjoyed. chin up sir and stiff upper lip n all that :D - even other content creators I have seen claim you as one of the best for F1 content on YT - I have to agree. Hope you feel better soon bud.

@Mtlmshr 2 месяца назад

Great video

@anthonyw5261 2 месяца назад

I love the topic. Wondering 🤔 when a automatic dual clutch might be possible or if it will be possible

@sultanabran1 2 месяца назад

my understanding of a seemless shift is, there are 2 clutches. clutch 1 is attached to 1st, 3rd, 5th gears. clutch 2 is attached to 2nd, 4th, 6th gears. in 1st gear, clutch 1 is engaged and 2nd gear is ready but that clutch 2 is disengaged. when you shift up, clutch 1 disengages and clutch 2 engages. etc etc.

@wingracer1614 2 месяца назад

That's a DCT (dual clutch transmission) and is how most street car flappy paddle transmissions work (except for all the ones that are actually slush boxes with paddles) but it's not what F1 uses. Just one clutch in an F1 tranny.

@_bstr_ct1832 2 месяца назад

Cool vid. Right up my street.

@nickshaw3619 2 месяца назад

Having driven a straight-cut Hewland H-pattern box, yes, you can slam it into the nalext gear on the upshifts, and in some situations, that's the technique to go with. Over a grand prix distance... with the greatest respect to the engineers and machinists at Hewland, whatever time might be saved by not using the clutch could easily come to nothing if the transmission doesn't last. A man like Jim Clark would have been well aware of that calculus, I have no doubt whatsoever.

@AidanMillward 2 месяца назад

This is what was going through my mind when I saw his on board. Given how Clark managed to bring cars home with virtually no wear on them he could have been always clutching but might have been metronomic with his lift n slam. While at the same time, Rossi might have been told to clutch to be safer with a 55 year old box that’s probably been rebuilt 40 times. Shame there’s so little onboard from those days.

@palm92 2 месяца назад

This video was made for me.

@Argosh 2 месяца назад

I always wonder what might have been if the FIA didnt reflexively ban interesting ideas. We might all be using CVTs if the teams had been allowed to develop the concept...

@ThomasMooreNetworkingGuy 2 месяца назад

Do you have a discord? Also for sim racing, do you do any race hosting or community races? (Fantastic channel btw)

@AidanMillward 2 месяца назад

Discord link is in description (as plugged at the end of every video) and I tend to do my racing with other communities as they know more than me. 😅

@simontravers2715 2 месяца назад

Time for an extra dose of adanoids with how me gears work! ⚙️

@bmstylee 2 месяца назад

Adenoids with an extra side of adenoids.

@AidanMillward 2 месяца назад

Not enough chassis numbers for me.

@michaelmcgovern8110 2 месяца назад

Question, please: the phrase "clutch up AND clutch down". Is this "double clutching" or something I don't know? Thanks.

@shoominati23 2 месяца назад

I wonder why F1 didnt ever use dogboxes / faceplated gears with a handcuff in place of the selector fork for no-lift changes? or a sequential where you never cross neutral between gears (theres only one below first) like the G-Force GSR .. I don't know, does the transaxle design preclude this? and I guess sharing oil with your differential is also not an optimum design from an engineering viewpoint.

@BobGeogeo 2 месяца назад

For comparison, the 1930s Auto Union racing cars used the same gearbox from 1933-39.

@Pewnhound112 2 месяца назад

Might be a hot take, but I think it’s only a matter of time before we see CVT in F1.

@davorinrusevljan6440 Месяц назад

Interesting how this automation managed to escape ban. I mean it is clear driver is no longer doing it but machine. Not saying it would be good to ban them, just that this somehow got a break

@FlyBoyGrounded 2 месяца назад

Woah! Woah! Woah! Heeling and toeing on the downshift so that the engine doesn't explode!? You have, like too many people, completely misunderstood the purpose of both heel/toe and rev-matching. Heeling and toeing is a necessary part of double-declutch downshifting so that gears without synchromesh can be engaged at the same revs (blipping the throttle matches the engine speed to the road speed). So the driver is raising the engine revs while simultaneously braking and operating the clutch which since no F1 has three legs means using the right foot to do two jobs. If the car's going too fast for the gear you're selecting, that will still blow the engine, even after you've heeled and toed or tried to revive match, because you won't be able to rev match if you're not going slowly enough. The road speed and the gears will overrev the engine for you once the clutch is engaged. What you really need to do if you want to avoid blowing the engine up on a downshift is to brake sufficiently that the car's ready for a lower gear. After that you can slam it into gear, rely on synchromesh if you have it, blip the throttle and you won't blow the engine.

@laurenmp7486 2 месяца назад

Surprising F1 never went with sequential shifters, the way Indy car did in the 90s where pull back is upshift and push forward is a downshift. Way faster than an H pattern and not as technically challenging to implement as a paddle shifting.

@wingracer1614 2 месяца назад

All flappy paddles are basically sequentials.

@laurenmp7486 2 месяца назад

@@wingracer1614 true they are, it's just the mechanism for making them shift is different.

@billy54bob 2 месяца назад

March 721X: wrong idea (?) or, wrong time(?)

@eamonahern7495 2 месяца назад

I remember in the past, F1 cars would lose all gears when they had some sort of hydraulic failure too.

@robdavies8702 2 месяца назад

I’m now blinking manually 😑

@dpause10 2 месяца назад

Here is what I want to know. When first Ferrari and then Williams adopted semi-automatic gearboxes in 89 and 91 respectively (it's not hard to imagine what Nigel Mansell's nightmares looked like), they had some pretty bad reliability issues. While having a faster, lighter and in any other imaginable way better gearbox is a no-brainer, did any of these pioneers ever really benefit from having the superior gearbox? In other words, it seems to me that in the short term, "aggressive" gearbox innovation typically backfired.

@wingracer1614 2 месяца назад

Yes. Perhaps the most successful example being the Ferrrari gearboxes that helped drive "The Michael" to 5 straight championships. That doesn't get talked about much but make no mistake, there was some absolute wizardry going on with those things and are basically the progenitor of the boxes used today.

@dpause10 2 месяца назад

@@wingracer1614 Right! Gearboxes are a bit like the red-headed step child of F1 cars, aren't they. We only talk about the trouble they cause and never how they (help to) make champions.

@JoseManuelLegardaGalarza 2 месяца назад

Make Minardi great back again.

@Holanduzo 2 месяца назад

9:15 I dont recognize what car is in reality, but thats not a real fw23... just the paint scheme.

@user-uj3ch6xg6m 2 месяца назад

Manual transmission is made up for endurance racing so sportscar racing must bring back manual transmission in EV racing because endurance is everything performance the EV manual transmission must be super quick shift

@therwfer 2 месяца назад

"LOL NO" is the only valid reaction to CVTs. You can shove all that EfFiCieNcY and oPtiMAl tOrQUe up your scooter's tailpipe.

@interests3279 2 месяца назад

400 liters?

@AidanMillward 2 месяца назад

Exaggerated.

@Dunk_76 2 месяца назад

Nice Black Country flag BTW 😎😎😎😎👍

@wraith600original1 2 месяца назад

motorcycle gearbox

@paulanderson9650 2 месяца назад

.4 seconds to blink? What?

@BetterThanSparksYT15 2 месяца назад

These bots man 😭

@AidanMillward 2 месяца назад

I’ve told RU-vid about them and they say just report em. But I gave up on that weeks ago.

@BetterThanSparksYT15 2 месяца назад

@@AidanMillward good ol' RU-vid eh Aidan😂😭

@AidanMillward 2 месяца назад

@@BetterThanSparksYT15 because of them I only picked up like 300 subs on August. They were subscribing en masse then unsubbing en masse which knackers your place in the algorithm.

@BetterThanSparksYT15 2 месяца назад

@@AidanMillwardgood grief

@Joe2328 2 месяца назад

0.4 seconds to blink? hope you don't drive

@AidanMillward 2 месяца назад

Takes about a third of a second to blink. So wasn’t far off.

@Joe2328 2 месяца назад

thats ages mate, is about a tenth@@AidanMillward

@Joe2328 Месяц назад

@@AidanMillward is about 0.1 - try it and see, your eyes are not shut for 1/3 of a second, unless you are kidding yourself

@alexwinfield9540 Месяц назад

@@Joe2328 why are you going on about something so supremely unimportant? Also you must be really fun at parties

@ShittyUserName 2 месяца назад

The rpm drop is pretty much dictated by the gearing, the bigger the gap between the 2 gears, the bigger the rpm drop and vice versa. Now that they have 8 gears all ratios are very close together which means the rpm difference very small hence very small rpm drop. Obviously if your shift takes longer the rpm will drop lower but it will pick up again after the clutch engages so technically a slower shift will drop rpms lower, but the gearing is the main thing

@stephencurry8552 2 месяца назад

Barnards work on transmissions were horrible for the sport. Men should still be applying a clutch and shifting. The computer stuff is garbage.

@rexthewolf3149 2 месяца назад

Ok boomer, keep yelling at the world to find a better way to do something.

@stephencurry8552 2 месяца назад

@@rexthewolf3149 Lets meet in person. And factually I am not the age that you claim. Still, I am willing to meet you in person, and you call me a name to my face. Lets make that happen.