I am really sad, I will have to leave the world of motorcycling because my medical problem returns, I will have to sell my CBR600 RR, I feel too bad, I took great care of her
That is sad but you’re not alone. I am also struggling with health issues that could end riding. Just had surgery and I expect I’ll be ok to ride for another season and hopefully more.
Very good! I like your style and delivery and content. I look forward to more. I picked up my speed 400 this past week and love it. And I have been riding 62 years!
Nice review, good to see new content. I took the MSF at a local Harley shop, and during a break I told the instructor I was pondering a 300cc to get started. She said "Well, you're riding a 500cc here. Does that seem like too much power? Just be respectful of the power of whatever your bike is, and you should be fine." I bought a MT-07 two weeks later and love it.
@@ButtonLicker Harley is the only company using bigger bikes in their classes. Everyone else uses off the floor small cc bikes. Harley does not sell any. Google it. It's not something Harley publicly talks about, but quite a few people teaching the classes have posted about how they detune them.
I started on a triumph trophy 500 twin scrambler in the early 70's. I loved that bike, and took it places I probably shouldn't have. It gave me a life long love of scramblers and dual-sports. Still riding at 70 now on a gen 3 klr.
Great review……honestly if a new rider is present, stays aware and was taught correctly they should do just fine on either bike. I think a throttle that is a fly by wire is harder to deal with for a new rider more than anything. It’s makes riding a bike with low end grunt jumpy in a new rider’s hand until they are comfortable with it.
All beginners are different. This seems like a good entry point for someone with the right budget and a reasonable sense of self preservation. The ABS and Traction control may be able to help newer riders avoid serious mistakes.
If you are a new rider, you have NO IDEA what torque is and therefore you need to say "be gentle and smooth with the throttle". There is no such thing as a "price point", maybe SUGGESTED price. There is no purpose to the second word...and it is false.
mhm. And in europe we get our license on 650cc engines with 95 hp. This misleading crap needs to stop with "non beginner bikes". I mean, sure, don't get 1l 150hp+ bikes as a first bike, but really this is getting ridiculous. Especially when most new bikes (including this triumph) also comes with all kinds of aids suc as traction control and slipper clutch. Internet people make it seem like 650cc bikes will literally throw you off the bike. The Honda CB650R I took my license on is so tame and gentle I can't see for the life of me how it could kill me UNLESS I go crazy with the throttle. I mean just don't get it above 5k rpm and NOTHING HAPPENS. LITERALLY.
Thanks for posting an interesting review. I have a few bikes one of them is a "400" street bike with a single cylinder engine from a different manufacturer. I have to say, I think this is likely to be a continuingly growing, if not already, massive market. The lighter bikes are very much better in the city and with just enough power to keep up with the traffic on the highway for short trip. Across a country, that's where you need a bigger bike, but for every day convenience, this is the sweet spot for bike size and weight.
Love triumph and love the looks of these bikes. It's nice to have a 400cc that doesn't look like a transformer insect or racer boy wannabe I've been dragging my feet for a while but I think I might have to pull the trigger on the lil speed
In the U.K all beginner motorcycles had to be 250 CC or less. I think recently its dropped to 200 CC. Far too many accidents in the U.S are due to a motorcycle being far too powerful for the rider's ability.The manufacturers are actually irresponsible, there is no need for such power levels, it's a nonsense.
Living in the same area as you I'm super jealous that you were jetted off to Europe to ride motos. February is not exactly prime riding season here. Excellent review btw. Lots of fun for 400 cc.
I past my test on a 125 in 1970 in the good old days when the RAC and the police did the training, a week later I was riding cx 500 , with continuation training with the same instructors which was brilliant. Now I’m a oldie with Iam training of 30 years and Still learning a. Nice vlog and with experience you don’t need 180 bhp on a bike , you’ll only ever need it if you go on a race track , I’ve done 140 mph and didn’t enjoy it ,.
Nice review. I traded in my RE Hunter 350 yesterday for one of these, Speed 400. I thoroughly enjoyed the Hunter, I always thought while riding it, it lacked a little power. This has the power the Hunter lacked, I can flat foot it comfortably. At higher revs / speed the handlebars tend to vibrate / buzz a bit. I’m hoping after the break-in period that will become less. I know after a few thousand miles on the Hunter, the character of the ride changed. The seat could use a little extra padding. Love the way it shifts, clutch is nice, suspension is acceptable. Can’t beat it for the price! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I love Valencia, lucky lady.
I currently own a Triumph 1050 Sprint ST. Its a big heavy bike but also a great bike, but at 74 years of age I am now struggling to push it around and pull back onto the centre stand, so i am now seriously looking at the Triumph 400 because of its lightness, and I am done with 160mph missiles.
400 is not too much. As long as the power is approachable and controllable with a little practice. Also bear in mind that you are tiny, the riders taller than you are likely to weight more as well and that is going to smooth things out on the power through inertia alone. The upside is that you won’t also outgrow it in 3 months like you might a 250 or 300cc bike.
When it comes to choosing a beginner bike, engine displacement is just one piece of the puzzle. What truly matters is how that power is managed. It's all about the horsepower and torque delivery to the rear wheel, how smoothly it accelerates, the handling, balance, and overall size of the motorcycle. But let's not forget the rider. Comparing two riders with different ages and body builds on the same bike isn't fair. A petite rider and a larger rider will have vastly different experiences. So, when discussing beginner bikes, it's crucial to consider all these factors to ensure a safe and enjoyable ride for everyone. My own experience resonates with this. I started riding in 2012 on a Kawasaki GPZ500s, a bike manufactured in 1992. Having held my rider's license since February 2007, my previous riding experience involved occasional short rides on bikes like the Kawasaki ZX9R from '98 and a Honda VFR 750 from '92. Having all that said... Triumph really nailed it with these 400cc bikes covering really well the requirements of small and larger riders.
If you're a beginner rider, you'd have spent weeks if not months riding round on a 125cc bike, then taken lessons on a bike bigger than 400, as many schools use 750cc bikes with restrictors fitted to train people for the A2 licence. So, almost certainly a 400cc is nobody's beginner bike nowadays.
Displacement and horsepower are not interchangeable terms. I've owned a v-twin 950cc which yielded about 50 HP, and I currently own a 700cc parallel twin with about 75 hp. I also own a 1000cc inline 4 with about 160hp. There are more factors to take into account outside of displacement. The speed 400 and scrambler 400x aren't necessarily beginner bikes and give you a good amount of power (around 40hp). They are both bikes that should be easy to grow into and possibly even grow out of, but this is all dependent on your use case. The biggest takeaway with these bike are the price points, which are easier for new riders to get into if buying new. I'm actually considering a Husqvarna 401 Vitpilen/svartpilen for commuting around town, and I've been riding since 2009 for some more context. Great video nonetheless!
Weeks ago went to my local Triumph dealer. Came home a bit disappointed due to a pair of details that (in my opinion) tells me that this bikes won't age well. 1ª Rust. If you low the pillion pegs, there was two thick patches of rust all around. 2º Lost bolt from exhaust's heat protector. Noticeably lower quality material compared with other models. And rust....RUST in a brand new bike!?. Sorry but that's not acceptable. (The city where i live is far from the sea, very low humidity, and in Spain too). Great design, bad materials and QC. Time will tell...
My first bike was a 1971 BSA Victor 500 B-50T that I got in 1973 while I was in high school. I weighed 125 pounds - it weighed ~295 pounds (dry) and had 34 horsepower. I learned to ride on a friend's 1972 Kawasaki G5 100 and had about six months of experience, so I knew what to do and the BSA was not too much. However, it was at the upper end of what was reasonable for me at that time. I think people ought to learn on enduro/dual-sport bikes of up to about a 250 cc, depending on the rider's weight. An hour of off-road experience is worth about 10 hours of road experience while being a lot more forgiving of mishaps. Bikes today are generally too tall to be good examples, but the old Honda SL-125 / XL-250 are about ideal for beginners / new riders.
I started on a 1925cc (Harley Road King special 117ci 😅) and will say it was scary. Should have started like you Loli and learned more before handling a big bike
The 400 4 stroke single cylinders are fine for a beginner bike. 40HP, 27ft-lbs torque, in a 375lb bike. That's not going to send you to moon or anything, but it's enough to have some fun
As an older rider, I would have loved to have tried one out as I restarted my riding experience - at 66 years old. Basic is good. This motorcycle is backed up by Triumph and built beautifully by Bajaj Auto. I ended up with a middleweight cruiser, which I've converted into an everyday commuter (Kawasaki Vulcan S). This bike, to serve the same purpose, would need a windscreen at the very least. I've also added crash bars - things happen even though I haven't dropped it yet. It does have a lovely roll-on character on faster highways that I doubt a 400 cc thumper could match. Interstate 70 has a 70 MPH speed limit in spots.
I'm an old guy with bad knees. I just traded my heavy Harley Davidson for a Honda SCL500 Scrambler. Perfect bike for me and the kind of riding I do. I love the torque it has at the lower rpms. I hardly ever hafta use brakes when slowing down.
Same here plus a cranky back. Road Glide gone and now proud owner of a CT 125 and taking delivery next week of my first and long awaited Triumph. 400 X Scrambler, test drive was so much fun, 400 lbs so nice.
great looking bike but comes with a buzzy feel the more you ride in the higher rev range. Single cylinder problem every time. Dissapointing.....go buy a twin
Both really nice bikes. Are they suitable for new riders? Possibly, but as always it depends on the rider’s right hand control. Great review tho. Looks as though you had fun.. 😊
Great review- love the honest, open questioning approach, cos that is where we are at. I am male, 68 years old and 5' 10''. Much happier the Speed 400.
Thanks for your review . I'm deciding between speed 400 and Yamaha r3 . I'm a return rider 2018 . 63 years young and a little height challenged, so speed 400 sounds good. Kind regards, Mark, perth Western Australia .
It all depends. When I was starting I had trouble riding on 125 and 250, then one lesson my instructor said "try this today" without telling me it's an A2 restricted 600 and I had a perfect lesson. I was riding it for the rest of the course and it felt ideal. It was MT-07. I bought one straight after getting a license and I was very satisfied, I still have it.
You were definitely the type of new rider that has a mindset to handle bigger bikes responsibly! And getting professional instruction is excellent, a fast track to being a great rider for sure
@@AntiParallali Oh, yeah, I was already in my 30s and a little too shy when it came to handling the throttle, that's why high torque motorcycle turned out to be better for me despite the bigger engine. It also lasted quite a while as my skills grew and I allowed myself to ride a bit more dynamically. I still ride very defensively on my XR 900 - got her for her beauty, not for her bigger assets.
@@HeliNomadic It means it's locked to restrict power so it'd be legal to ride it with A2 driving license (simplification: there's A1 for scooters for teens, A2 for small motorcycles for 18 years old young adults and A for full blown machines for people over 21).
한국은 이륜자동차를 만들지 못하고 이륜자동차가 자동차 전용도로를 통행하면 벌금형이나 구류형으로 전과자를 만드는 나라라서 이런 멋진 바이크를 보고 또 바이크가 고속도로를 통행하는 것을 보면 부럽습니다. 한국에 팔려오는 이륜자동차는 자동차전용도로나 고속도로를 통행하지 못하겠지만 그래도 한국의 라이더들이 바이크를 사랑하는 마음만큼은 세계 어느나라 라이더 못지 않을것이라 생각합니다. 한국에도 빨리 이 바이크가 판매 되었으면 좋겠습니다. 세계의 라이더들 모두 안전하게 라이딩 하고 무사히 복귀 하기를 바랍니다.
It is not the cc it is the hp. The Royal Enfield Himalayan puts out 24hp with a 411cc engine. The Triumph Speed 400 and Scrambler 400x put out about 40hp with 398cc engines. I think a new rider who started out on a 20-24hp bike would transition quite well to a 40hp bike.
@@omojjegomosc8211 It really depends on the type of motorcycle, a Ninja 400 actually handles nicer for a beginner than the Scrambler here. There's much less torque down low on the Ninja so making a low speed mistake like blipping the throttle by accident wouldn't penalize a newer rider like it would on the Scrambler
Hi Lali, you were right! You had a vid in the works and here it is as promised. How sweet, you were able to go to Spain and ride! Looked like a great time and yes, gorgeous!! I haven’t rode a bike in years so I can’t be helpful for you on your question to leave my thoughts in a comment. But another great video! You did very well on your review and I’m sure it helps those who may be considering getting something. Anyways, take care Lalipop and stay safe!! Best wishes! 😉😆👍❤️ spring should right around the corner!!
@@AntiParallali Welcome! It was a really well done video. Want to clarify something… Not sure if you got my Lalipop play on words thing or not? I got to thinking that maybe I should have included more to it, to make sense. I first used it when I asked you the question about posting vlogs, in the comments on your short vid you posted. You answered stating it was to cold to ride, which I agreed with forgetting about being winter time. That’s when I put the Lalipop and not freezing because if you did, it would make you a Lalipopsicle. See?? 😉😆 tc
While I don't remember what bike I rode during my MSF course (I assume it was probably around the 200-300 range), my first bike three months after the course was a Kawasaki Vulcan 900. Initially, I was intimated by that much power (and weight), but because it is such a low bike, I found it incredibly easy to ride, and I didn't feel at any time that it was too much power (plus, I was 41, so I was past the point of thinking I was invincible and wanting to always go fast). I know own a KLR 650 (two actually) and a Suzuki DRZ-400. For me, that power range seems perfect, and I fully intend on adding the 400X (and maybe even an SV650) to my stable. Not having ridden the 400/400X and experiencing the low-down torque, that might not be ideal for new riders, but from all of the reviews that I've seen of these bikes, they seems like they'd be not only good to gain experience on, but something to grow into and be happy with down the road. I am certainly looking forward to getting the 400X.
I does not matter what kind of motorcycle u ride, just ride with your brains and not with your throttle. Millions of us in Europe started out with full size unrestricted 600cc or 750cc or large bikes. I myself started out or rather during the period I was taking my A-license rode 750cc inline 4cyl, 1000cc inline 4 cyl naked bikes that the school provided. And then I rode my suzuki bandit 600mk2 for a year until I went up to supersports.
Lali did you know that Triumph is the worlds oldest motorcycle manufacturer its true. It is written in the Bible I kid you knot. It said that King Davids Triumph was known all over Israel. Thank you I will be here all week, two shows nightly.😁😆😂
With 250s and 300s going for the same price or more it’s priced to make a lot of sales. A broke college student maybe shouldn’t spend $5,000 on anything if they can’t afford it.
Call me old fashioned. Or call me wisened? But I'd wait 2 years and see if it blows out transmissions or cam chains or who knows what. Even it was Japanese, I'd wait and see. This is a brand new design being built by a factory and in a country that Triumph never did before.
I liked your review. Most guys are purely analytical, listing spec after spec. I can read specs, I want to hear what they feel like on the ride. Im thinking about picking this up as a second bike. Regarless of cc's and torque-ee-ness, a newbie needs to get intimately familiar with throttle, clutch and brake before riding on the street...or pavement even. Believe me - even a sub-400 cc dirt bike can " torque" your but down the road on your face if you dont bother to get familar with them. Dont ask me how I know this. Lol.
Wow Scrambler 400x is so expensive in your country. I think You said you will have to pay 5000 dollar. But Scrambler 400x price is 3143.94 dollar in my country (India) Last year I bought Pulsar f250 its a good bike but as I m traveling like 6000 to 8000 kilometer in a single trip so now i think i should go for at least 400cc bike. May be next year I will buy my another bike but I am little confuse between scram 400 and Bajaj Dominar 400. Actually I just love Dominar 400 but the only one thing is making me little worried abt Dominar that It is so Heavy. anyway Nice video friend. Have a wonderful evening.
I think 400, at least with this bike and the KTM/Husvarna 390/401, is where you get the full street capable level. Any less and you cant really do highways well. Yes, some smaller engines can do the highway but they rev super high, and struggle when it comes to passing safely. So to me its a perfect beginner bike if you want/need highway capability too. But, if you dont need that, then of course a smaller engine is better.
Debating engine size for a beginner is problematic. First, a beginner may weigh 90 pounds, or they may weigh 300 pounds. Second, a low compression Royal Enfield will have half the power of a high compression Honda of the same engine size.
i think everyone should start on a 125cc bike. anything that is powerful enough to get you to 100kph is perfect for a beginner. on the other side this is definitely not the fastest beginner bike. a mt-03 ot r03 has less cc and almost the same power but can easily get up to 170kph.
These bikes are great city and back lane bikes, although capable at higher speeds, it’s not really their forte. One thing I would say is that the reviewer is a street and road rider and making a judgement on the Scrambler’s off road capability should be taken with a pinch of salt. I’ve seen reviewers take this variant through some serious off road mud and trails and it can do it.
Size of an engine is not really in the question that should be asked first it should be what type of bike are you looking for what what are you using it for then engine size will come into play that’s just my 2 cents I came here because I love triumph 😂
Does anyone REMEMBER the fancy "Ducati Sixty2".? It was a Standard / Scrambler-like 400, but expensive. Goodness, I want one of these new Triumph's Lali-pop... I'll take off the front fender & put unreasonable Knobby's on it. Hee hee
Sheesh, I'm 6" taller than you and have 1" less inseam. I'm not quite sure what you meant by sitting on top of the suspension. I'm sure it's a feeling or perception that I'm just not getting from that description. Heh, you mentioned power band and ninja 250 in the same sentence. 😂 400cc is fine for a beginner. Not so tame that you're wanting more power in a month or two, but not way too much power to handle.
Every “beginner” is different. Different ages with varying types of vehicle & traffic experience, innate coordination, learning speed, and level of maturity. I know it’s popular to categorize motorcycles as good for beginners or not, but it’s not that simple. It’s not a yes or no answer in many cases.
NOT a beginner (riding since 1961) Bought one about a month ago for a "play bike". It's a hoot. Absolutely fun to ride on the back roads here in northern Virginia. The saddle sucks after 100 miles or so - but that's not what I bought the bike for. Considering adding the Scrambler version if I can clear up some garage space. 😁
It said you have a 31 inch inseam. I am 5'8" and I have a 30 inch inseam. I get both feet on the ground and I ride a 2013 Honda Goldwing F6B it fits me well. If you ever go for a bike that big try a goldwing you may be surprised by how well you can fit in one.
Not a bad attempt from Triumph to create affordable, single-cylinder 400cc bikes. And kudos to Bajaj for being up to the task for manufacturing these bikes for Triumph. Lots of nice 400cc class bikes coming out this year, including the much-awaited CFMoto Ibex 450/450MT adventure bike that uses their 450cc 270-degree crank parallel twin engine.
A true starter motorcycle would be similar to a 80cc dirt bike for the basics & a little seat time. After approximately 100 hrs of learning then move to the 400 class to continue the learning. Nothing wrong with starting on a small bike.
Looks like the 400's are not available in the US yet? Even if they were at an MSRP of $5k, out the door they would be closer to $7K after all of the destination, dealer prep, TT&L, and various fees.
