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No this is different, Big Pun abused his wife and kid. Joe is just upset that the wife and son keeps letting people know how foul Pun was after he passed.
@bensalah1 but that happens in cases where they actually have a will, and most of those cases fail. It's like a pre nup they get challenged all the time, but you need one if you wish to protect your assets.
Its like that sometimes especially if you have narcissistic family members or straight snakes. Yeshua's brothers were some of his biggest haters. Takes wisdom to see the snakes and cut them off.
I only have respect for people who do exactly what they say they're going to do family and friends. The time we're in at the moment leaves me speechless with the type of individuals you cross paths with on a daily basis a snake is a snake i get so pissed when you have people telling you to forgive what someone else has done or is doing to you giving that individual more opportunities to exhibit how they really feel about you compared to how they treat you nobody cares about you more than you if you are fortunate enough to have someone who truly i mean truly does do everything in your power to keep them in your life because everyone has their fare share of pretenders you waste time with everyday
Correct. What didn’t you understand? They love each other like brothers are SUPPOSED to!! Unfortunately him and his blood brother are Clearly the exception to that rule.
@@CTGCapo I understood everything he said. Just thought it's sad that he talks about brotherhood but doesn't even speak to his own blood brother for decades. Clear now?
Yup when my husband died people out of nowhere came out the wood works ppl I have never met chasing me down for his ashes an blaming me for his death like woow how devastating
Death brings out the worst. My aunt played so nice and helpful when my dad was dying from cancer. My dad was warning us non-stop. Shes a snake. Shes after their mother's house which is supposed to go to me my brother and her. Soon as he died she went full asshole mode and took over the house
@shazzar756 just dealt with that the past 3 weeks,, my dad's 2 younger siblings sold their parents house. 46 years of ownership my grandparents had is gone and within our memories..
You know what tho the greatest gift you got was memories and lessons and she thought you a GREAT ONE Suite up for your family young lord God got even More greater things to come for you and your brother and God gone make sure auntie see it from a distance sorry for your loss ❤
Really? Can you point me in the direction where i can learn these details? No joke. People like Fat Joe don't get rich without screwing over everybody on the way up. It would explain why he has so much bling unless they are lab made diamonds, when this boy sold just a few million albums 15+ years ago.
Not true. He's explaining how they ended up in the shelter. He gave the family money on multiple occasions. She spent it all. He wasnt gonna keep doing that when he didn't have all the money in the world himself. And he's said that in many interviews, whenever people asks. There was also beef between him and Liza Rios because she made bad business decisions in regards to Pun's image after he died. And she didn't know how to manage the estate. She released the footage of Big Pun physically abusing her. And tried to profit off the DVDs of the footage. After that, Joe decided he did want to help her anymore or want anything to do with her. HE IS NOT RICH FROM BIG PUNS LEGACY. You may be unaware, but Joe has been selling drugs, releasing his own music, and touring way before he even met Pun. And when he does shows, he rarely does maybe 2 Big Pun songs. When he does, it's only to pay homage. And even if he wanted to make money off of Pun's royalties, he couldn't. Simply cause in all actual reality, Pun only really had one album. Yes, there were releases of music after he died. But if you go back and listen to those albums, you will hear old material that had already been released when Pun was alive either on albums or on mixtapes. Becasue before he died, he was sick and couldn't really do much in the studio. That is why there's not a big vault of unreleased Pun music. Cause they released all the music when he died to help Liza get money. Stop making shit up.
Damn he’s got a point the money maker dies and the family comes rushing in to call dibs. People nobody even heard of now claim they been since day 1 and they owed some of the pie
Joe actually stole 4 million dollars from Pun, this was proven in court. Not only that, due to Fat Joe stealing 4 million, His so called brothers family was living in a shelter.
His wife and kids the lady he was married to not sone random chic joe was being greedy Pun gave Joe a career and after Pun died if wife should be in charge of his estate
@erin can maybe u took how I worded it out of context, they wouldn't be poor while I watch without setting up a situation for his widow & chidren, I mean it's your brother...shouldn't be hard to do the right thing
It’s sad when you know more about a person than their own family did and now they’re out here tryna collect then you’re lookin’ at ‘em like “bro, the materials aren’t even that serious but WHERE WERE YOU?…”😂
I have a sister who has not spoken to my parents in over 25 years , and It hurts my parents so much but if something happens I’m sure she will be the first one at the funeral 😂
they are the ones missing out of the that unconditional love...people that just love you no matter what for you being you...they seem all high mighty underneath broken and super glued up
@@jaycampas6463 Word, Joe re-writing history. Wish Pun could tell the truth from above. His son does a little, but he a real one and don't like to talk on it.
LIES 💯 you knew PUN for 3 years, REMY knew PUN for 5 months stop the BS & let's nt forget that in 2016 it was proven in court that JOE owed PUN's Family a little over 2 million in back royalties. LIZA was right and Won. That's the real reason JOE still mad and he's not pushing anything BIG PUN. He never promotes his music, albums and said he wants nothing to do with a reported TV Series. Why? Cuz U got caught doin BS
This is why I don't take my family for granted at all. I am grateful and blessed that me and all of my family are on good terms and even with triles and tribulations we never dipped out on each other and are still riding together for each other. #GoodDay
Joe handed over Puns Masters!!! All royalties go to that. Joe then filled for bankruptcy. He literally got his career revived when Remy got out & has managed himself well ever since.
I really don’t understand why the mother gets relieved of accountability and responsibility. It was her kids she had to raise! She should have gotten a job!
“Foil your plans, boil your grams, take your shine Fold all your hands, spoil your mans, make him mine Take all you made, call you gay on Hot 97 Drop by your dwellin', got the nueve right behind your melon Ain't no tellin' when the bullet's behind the trigger I do it to live niggas and Pulitzer Prize winners You wouldn't survive, nigga, if I chose you Froze you from ear to ear, showin' your whole vocal Who told you, you could roll through? My lyrics practically rose you from the grave like The Crows do I told you a long time ago, don't ever fuck me 'Cause if I leave you half dead, consider yourself very lucky Very ugly from the face up, leave you laced up Joey Krillz, Prosp, Cuban Link, Triple Seis, WHAT?” - Big Pun
Can you tell me what the fuck ‘Day In, Day Night’ means then? Cuz I’ll bet my bottom dollar he fucked up, from not being a great talker, and meant to say Day In & Day Out!
That was his wife and kids and she gotta fight for his publishing Pun would spit on you Joe almost 20 years it took her just for something she didn't want it all just enough so she wasnt homeless
He said, "I never had any kind of argument with Pun...we loved each other like brothers". Then he backed it up by saying, "I haven't spoken to my blood bother in 25 years"
I just watched my homeboy family turn on him at his mom's funeral. Even his daughters turned on his wife. Death isn't just a release it's also when the beast is released.
I had a landlord who’s daughter passed away and she blamed her daughters death on me and I was okay. When somebody dies it don’t matter what the damn truth is people are hurt and they need answers
I feel Joe 100% on this, i had a very close friend that passed, our friendship was just like joe and pun's, NEVER argued, never fell out, we knew each other like we had the same brain, a place of me died when he died, on the other hand I have a selfish, envious narcissistic sister who i don't even speak to and care absolutely nothing about
At the end of the day. When pun died all his catalogue and royalties should've been handed over to his wife along with a proper lawyer who rightfully leads her down the correct path. But then again you and pun weren't really brothers he was just making u mad money. Simple.
@@beaudinetm1693 lol not quite more Like spent the $ than decided she'd sue FJ for aby reason she could think of to get more $ instead of getting a Job
FAX DAMN TRU YOU ONLY AS GOOD AS WHAT YOU CAN DO NOW MIN YOU PASS ITS ON TO DA NXT THATS WHY I HATE HUMANITY BUT LOVE HUMANS.... blood is not thicker than water believe dat
How can you be an adult and not understand this. You can’t be naive like that. Don’t you have a family of your own? I know damn well everyone don’t get along.
Joe aint making that.much off Pun shit anyway. Not in 2023 anyway i.mean think about what songs are.getting spins from Big pun, not a playa, and still.not a playa
DAM I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT WAY TO MUCH 😢😢😢 WE PUT TO REST MY DAD IN 2008 AND THEN MY OLDER BROTHER AND MY GRANDFATHER AND UNCLE ALL IN THE SAME YEAR IN 2020 AND THEN MY 2 OLDER COUSIN BROTHER'Z LIKE IN 2022 AND MISS THEM ALL AND NOT COUNTIN EVERYONE ELSE WHO WERE MY UNCLE'Z AND AUNT'Z AND BROTHA'Z AND SISTER'Z THRU OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS'CHRIST IN MY LIFE AND NEVER THINK ANY LESS OR MORE OR THEM BECAUSE THEIR MORE THAN THAT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO THE ALMIGHTY HIMSELF AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS'CHRIST HAVE TO CALL HOME FOR US TO BEIN THE PERSON WHO RAISED US TO BE LIKE THAT BECAUSE THIS ONLY TEMPORARY OUR REAL AND ONLY TRUE HOME IS IN THE LORD'S HAND'S WITH OUR HEAVENLY FATHER AMEM LORD 🙏🙌 PRAISE JESUS MAY HE BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AMEN 🙏
A brother you haven't spoken to in 25 years and you have the audacity to call nore and other rappers your brother's. Hypocrisy at its best for fay joe.
The replies here are crazy. Pun was a platinum selling artist who released two platinum albums AFTER HE DIED. And his wife and children were in a homeless shelter while Joe collected all the royalties for the Big Pun albums released after he was dead. Liza also sued Joe and won, so that’s how we “know that” lol
How do you know what Joe did? Everybody's going off of what others said on SM. We believe everything others say even when we weren't there. Three sides to a story Joe's side, Liza's side, and the truth. Remember who put Pun in position to get famous, the truth, Pun left his family homeless when he got the bag, didn't have to be millions but he made enough to buy a house, and a life insurance policy in case something of death.
And lying for no reason is why you suffer and will continue to suffer. Just know that whenever you going through shiiiit I'm here laughing at you everytime you feel sad depressed anxious afraid rejected neglected just know I'm here laughing at every ounce of your pain
I understand what he’s saying, but big puns kids grew up on food stamps. Unless his mom’s just went through millions spending it on BS I just don’t see how that’s possible if pons family was compensated the right way.
@@imnotasimp7440 And what if he is?? Nothing wrong with that. Does not take anything away that He definitely is ONE OF HIP HOP’s GOATS. What kind of statement is that??
@@LuisMartinez-le2pc The previous commenter said "the undisputmented goat." Many Puerto Rican's consider Pun to be the GOAT because Pun was Puerto Rican. However, Pun didn't have enough classic songs/albums to be considered one of the GOAT. His first album was not a classic. He really only had one major hit song that has stood the test of time. If he didn't die, maybe he would have made more. Now, compare than to DMX, Jay Z, Tupac, LL, Snoop, Biggie, etc. It's not about how lyrical you are, its about the songs.
@@imnotasimp7440 Your delusional to say that his first album is not a classic. Plus he ghostwrote for Fat Joe which also has classic albums plus Big Pun has many classic verses. You are just a hater and you consider a snitch like Snoop a GOAT?? 😂😂🤣 Exactly my point. Pun’s track’s, flow’s, lyrical ability, ability to make club bangers, etc. You name it he had it. That is why even Rakim, Kool G Rap, And your snitch loving Snoop even labelled him one of THE GOAT’s. No matter what you say he definitely is one of the GOAT’s. PERIOD.
@@judorican973 like any label owner would most artists dont own there catalogs or likeness rights Labels fund the career & need to recoup to keep the lights on
This is why your supposed to have a WILL in place when you have an estate. or just even your house alone is enough for a will.. That was Nips downfall when he established his estate. He has no will😢
Fat joe is out of his mind, and his career is over! The court transcripts were allllllll i needed to read! That time he told liza to get a job…🤔😳 The latin kings were going to beat him to death for disrespecting a queen! Bambatta saved his life. How could fat joe act like a normal person and literally tell puns wife to fuck off since pun is dead no money for her? U kidding me, then the embarrassment comes..the jellybean contract…no black mogal ever did a black artist as dirty as joe did pun. CASE CLOSED! Fat joe is the new WILL SMITH…RIGHTFULLY CANCELED!!!😊
Facts, you can have 20k or 2 billion, once you go, people step up on how they never said or did one bad thing to you. Money changes everything. And it changes EVERYTHING. Ask anyone who lost a family member. They are all quiet for 60 years. The week after your funeral, the gloves come off
Love how Joe always spins the story to make Pun’s family look like shit. Bro know he took all that money and said F-his family. The same way he took that $10mil dollar advance that’s was suppose to go towards TS members albums and spent it all on his next solo project and let all the TS starve. Cause Pun may be dead, but the rest of TS members are alive and guess what, Joe ain’t looking for “his brothers” either. Once he compared his relationship with Pun as “brothers” and then couple lines later says he hasn’t spoke to his “blood brother” in 25+ years, that should tell you all you need to know about this story telling crook.
my grandmother passed away and left a will, my grandfather kept all of his childrens inheritance, over 1.8 Million Pound sterling - my uncles an aunties (mother also) were supposed to get roughly 250-300 thousand each instead he gave them 4k-5k each but as the widowed husband he was legally allowed to change thr will so he voided it, the worst thing was certain family members were struggling yet we often caught him taking random women on shopping sprees, 50 inch tv's, cars and designer clothes - its cool he has to be answerable for his decisions once he stands before God, we still love him but he is a selfish man
