has happened actually. remembered a news article couple years back, a doctor performed first aid and emergency tracheotomy on his neighbour and saved his life. got sued because it left a scar.
I'd like to see the news interview those victims, "They dragged you on the floor!" "I'm alive" "They broke a hole in your wall!" "My entire apartment was covered in fire"
@@HateNeverCeasesHate what where they supposed to do else? It's either getting dragged and being saved or dying a horrible death in the flames and suffercating
@@chrisi7127 "So what you're saying is they started the fire to knock you unconscious so they could touch and drag you?" "What" "You heard it here folks, firefighters are perverted rapists!"
what's funny is people also don't understand that sometimes you just have to haul a person out and you treat secondary injuries, like a scrape or bruise, or even a broken limb, later. keeping the person alive is the primary objective, and as long as they are still breathing, you can fix other minor ailments that are far less worse than being dead.
Plus, hoisting them above your shoulder takes much more strength, and if you accidentally fall, then that person is falling headfirst like toppling down a flight of stairs. And that's saying you could actually get anywhere since most firefighter are tall enough to almost hit their head on doorways by themselves, let alone the person on top of them.
This world has gone from “we fact-checked with firefighters to see which tactics are the safest” to “today tactics of firefighters were called into question cause we overestimate our own knowledge”
Them: "they dragged the victim low down and across the floor" Me a person with common sense: "yeah, I mean doesn't smoke and heat rise" like come on they teach that in like 4th grade science.
I mean when I was in elementary school, the local fire department came and taught “fire safety” and that was kind of the main thing they taught us, if you’re in a fire stay low
@@Whalebarf the biggest predicament with this wording is that if you expand the acronym, it makes it sound like you’re saying “they’re teaching Black Lives Matter etc.”
They also teach that in the military for situation where there is no fire. It's quicker then shouldering someone and also easier when you are carrying a lot of gear as it can be difficult to shoulder someone who is passed out and has no body tension. It isn't ideal for longer distances though, as the increased friction from dragging someon, combined with running backwards and an awkward body posture will be more exhausting than carrying them over your shoulder. But yes it also has the added advantage of keeping a low profile wich is advantagous in both a literal fire as well as when being under enemy fire.
Ngl, I’d be fine with being dragged-out by my balls if that’s what it took. I mean, I might question what wild and unlikely circumstances required that, but still.
Yep! I don't care how I ended up not trapped in a fire, so long as I'm not in the fire I'm all good. Get me out any way you want, dragged by the hair, ears, catapult, I promise I'll be thankful.
@@SirGuidemere91 ah reminds me of my first time in a fire container, we were handed spare gear for a good reason because some of us didn't take "don't stand up, keep close to the floor and walls" serious
As someone who was close to, and had family living CLOSER to one of the biggest fire fronts in the 2019 Australian bushfires, watching the news to see our Firies doing double & triple shifts on minimal sleep, working TIRELESSLY to ensure that people were evacuated from dangerous areas and travelling through a literal burning hellscape, to the point the tyres on the truck burst into flame, leaving a crew to have to abandon the truck, get into their gear and WALK back through burning bushes alongside fire tornadoes - these people have the absolute AUDACITY to question the methods that prevent them from burning up into a shrivelled husk? Really? REALLY? Sir, I tip my hat to you. Thank you for your services and patience when it comes to dealing with people like this. Please stay safe out there!
Headlines before 2000s: Firefighters save 3 people in housefire! Headlines after 2000s: People on social media complain about how firefighters saved 3 people!
On top of that, the comments on social media complaining about it are probably considerably less than 1 percent of the total comments about the instance.
Remember the good old days when news outlets would interview the Fire Department before publishing the story so they could get all the facts straight first? Those were the times.
Yep, the internet broke journalism. Or well, the public's shortening attention span and demand for instant news did, leaving regular journalism on the backfoot because publishing a good and researched stories 2 days late would simply not get the traffic (be that digital or physical) a rushed out 1-hour-later report would. Can't get both sides of the stories in a hour, so might as well print the first thing you heard.
@@Alblaka No, it was the internet. It used to be you'd buy a subscription to NYT or WSJ (for example) because of their reputation and the kinds of stories they covered. Advertisers would pay for the creation of the newspaper based on the same. So the paper was paid for making the news before they published it. Now, advertisers only pay if their ad shows up in front of you. And you read individual articles wherever they happen to be. So the motivation of the papers has changed, and it's now to be the one that gets you to click thru to the article so their ads get shown. Hence, click-bait and lack of spending time finding out what the facts are. People have always been eager for the latest news.
I remember that we had this really cool firefighter demonstration as kids. Basically, a lot of kids die because they don't stay low in fires and suffocate or, even worse, they will hide under their beds/in closets from firefighters because they look scary. So what they had us do was crawl across a room with a smoke-machine to simulate the experience. It was absolutely terrifying tbh. The firefighter in all his gear looked like a monster. And that's what made it a good exercise. It taught us that you need to stay low, call out for help, and follow instructions
@@wilfdarr yeah, I was definitely lucky to have such good community programs. The education in general wasn't that great, but they made sure to put on fun and helpful events for kids all the time. I've gone to at least 6 different schools since we moved around a lot and that place was the best for fun things for kids to do that kept them away from experimenting with adult things without even realizing it lol
when i got to try in high school at the firestation we used a smoke machine in a dark building, with a flashlight that was taped over with ducttape.. Yeah, you see a lot :D
Jesus I never thought about a kid being in a house on fire with smoke everywhere looking at a fucking firefighter in full equipment. That must look like a fucking demon from hell.
When you blacked out the screen, my chest actually got tight. Throughout all my years of fire safety (mind you, I'm just a regular citizen), no one ever warned us that it would be THAT dark. I've known the basics, like sticking close to the ground because the heat and smoke will kill you, and trying to crawl along edges to find an exit...but for some reason, I always thought there would be at least a bit of light, if nothing else, than from the fire itself. Thanks for the new nightmare fuel.
I just read the autopsy reports on some fighters from an AZ wildfire (I’m a medical person, we’re weird like that). About half of their gear was intact despite 3rd degree burns (the rest was melted). Backdraft? But sad. It really hit me on their heroism. They do that work despite the real possibility of death despite following all procedures.
Great clip. Back when I was a firefighter we had a woman come into the station who had locked herself out of her car. One the officers went out and after a few bits of jiggling with an old coat hanger got her vehicle open. She immediately went into a rant about how he must have been a criminal, because only criminals would know how to break into a car like that. After amount two minutes of this, he relocked her car door and walked away. I've also had a (junior) Police officer question my tactics at a major incident. I replied with a quick explanation of what I was doing, how it complied with SOPs and doctrine, pointed out that I had jurisdiction in the matter, not him; that the applicable law required him to support my actions, and that I would be saying the same things as a witness at the inquest. The last bit seemed to have the desired effect. His sergeant could barely stop himself from laughing.
" I replied with a quick explanation of what I was doing, how it complied with SOPs and doctrine, pointed out that I had jurisdiction in the matter, not him; that the applicable law required him to support my actions"... Im just wondering, how many swear words were in your explanation???? 8-)
@@peterdaly6173 Some things actually have more impact when said without swearing, especially if it's dead obvious that the person saying them is mad as hell. It takes a very controlled person to not swear in times like those, and that can be more intimidating than someone blowing their top and swearing their face off.
I love how people will judge about things they know nothing about. When they watch too much tv and confuse that with real life. Whatever you guys need to do I want you to do it. You guys are awesome!
Yesterday my neighbor's home caught fire from a lightning strike. It feels like days ago it's been exhausting. But let me tell you about firefighters. Omg they were there so quickly. It was the 3rd fire from lightening yesterday at 330pm. Then there was a 4th. Anyways, these guys were amazing. You really really never appreciate your first responders until you've seen them in action saving you, your neighbors or family. We sat there in complete awe of 17 of them on this house. It was a foot by foot size hole that ended up burning down a 2400 sq foot home. Absolutely devastating to watch. My husband had heard the strike then smelled smoke. Thinking it was our home he went to the front and noticed it was the neighbor's. He ran over while dialing 911, to them barely making it out. The firefighters were there within 2 min. I am so so so grateful for our firefighters in Indian River County, Florida. What true heros running into burning structures when people are trying to get out. When this video shows the black screen as what they see, its 100% true. After only a minute in half my husband couldn't see his hands. Ran out to the middle of the street to flag down firefighters and still didn't know where he was in the road. God bless all our first responders. They each are special within their specialties. And until you need them you don't really know or appreciate the work they do.
Exactly!!! And unfortunately until you suffer through the catastrophe, some people will still be stale ham sandwiches of brain dead until they could lose everything. With cops getting horrid backlash, I had a car accident last year and the paramedics showed up and took me to the hospital but my mom waited for 3 hours before any help came and when an officer showed up, she was being protected by the distracted driver who was getting mad while I also waited 3 hours at the hospital and got the treatment for whiplash. Not every scenario is perfect like these, I know, and when the good outcomes come we need to give more credit where it's due. That's all.
I'm a little late to the party but this comment has the right of it. We've seen 3 houses burn within less than half a black from ours around the new year for two years in a row now. 2 years in a row now I've watched the same firefighter jump out of his car, pull his gear from his trunk and kicking his shoes off at the same time, then hope through the pant legs into his boots then in one motion pull the whole thing up and over in one single motion and run for the fire trucks. He can gear up boots and all faster than I can get just a pair of underwear on, I'm not joking. It's honestly impressive just to watch.
I love when people that are ignorant about something tries to say that something "doesn't look right". yea okay Karen...where did you go to school for fire fighting??
Yea when I was younger I buried a lot of dead animals, calves etc that froze to death overnight, because I was one of the only people at school willing to do it. Lots of people would whine about picking up the calf by its legs to carry it to where it was being buried, but of course they would refuse to help carry it, so how do you want me to carry a 40kg animal covered in its own excrement by myself? Its not fun for me either lol.
It's fine to say "that doesn't look right" if you're genuinely questioning and open to hearing out what the person says, with the exception of your primary responsibility being finding out if it is right as """"news"""" is supposed to do. If you ask "that doesn't look very pleasant, are you sure it's the right way to handle things?" and get an answer that's fine. Ignorance isn't a sin, we all think we know more than we actually do, but if you assert it as truth, as absolute fact, that it's wrong, or if your entire job is supposed to be education and you speak to your audience from a position of complete ignorance, those are wrong. Unfortunately almost no news sources exist that are anything but censorious and slanderous fear and hate mongers currently.
You gotta follow the Post-Emergency Responder Checklist! 1: Check that the emergency is over 2: Call your significant other to let them know you are alive 3: Call your lawyer and insurance to let them ward off the ambulance chasers.
I spent time with local firefighters as a part of the DoE programme. First thing they taught us was to stay low. We also had to do an extraction from a smoke filled room. Couldn't see a thing. They asked if we wanted to turn the lights on - and that made it even worse! I also volunteered to try and wear the BA gear - that was really heavy. Nothing but respect for firefighters, no matter the country they are from.
For 22 years I’ve wanted to say the things you say in your video. Love the fact that pouted out the fires are lights out. You guys are awesome and your boy Stipe is the GOAT. Humble champion. Something that all too often is missing from the world. Kudos to you my brother.
The fact that we have to explain ourselves . How about we go back in time, change what we did and see how many victims we can save without force entry. I doubt the burnt corpse will want to give an interview .
the thing is, explaining ourselves is fine but the media shouldnt accuse us of doing it wrong. The reason why firefighters drag people on the ground should have been on tv not the story they put up
You should always have to explain yourself. You're a public servant. It's how you keep the public trust. The problem with this is the reporter saw something they thought was weird, and instead of asking the firefighters what exactly was going on they thought, "Now this isn't what they did in the movie Backdraft. These professionals must be wrong because I seen it in a movie." The problem is the firefighters never got the chance to explain themselves. The editor just wanted a spicy "Firefighters do wrong thing" headline and ran with it.
@@DracoAvian Most definitely The twitter effect means that old media has, unfortunately, started to deteriorate. Those that were the best are still not horrible, but there is plenty of twitter sites that call themselves newspapers or television stations.
I asked my leut when I first started why when we sweep with the head of the axe out. He told me because if there’s a hole in the floor the weight will want to go down and alert you to the hole. When I asked what happens if I were to hit a victim in the head with the axe wile search, he tells me “two things happen, 1 you found your victim. 2 it looks way cooler when they are bleeding” lol
I'm not a firefighter but a maritime worker. We have mandatory firefighting training The first time I did it they sent us into a simulated engine room made of containers full of smoke. We could see absolutely nothing and the walls were warm even through the gloves just from the sun shining on the metal containers. When I got out I thought 2 things: 1 that was really damn cool 2 I hope I never have to do that for real I can't but have the outmost respect for the job you do
I did training with my local FD in highschool under the BSA Explorers program. I learned a great deal and got to participate in "smoke out" training. Where we filled a simulation trailer with pepper smoke and went in and did search and rescue training. When you blacked out the screen and said, All we see.. "is the dark abyss of what ever fears we still have left creeping around in our heads." I knew exactly what you meant. Despite being a simulation, I recall my amazement of how my mind treated it like a real threat. I mean, it was real in the sense that the smoke wasn't pleasant to breath and it was hot, summer time in Florida baking a galvanized steel trailer. A couple of the other kids suffered heat stroke symptoms and I believe another had a full on panic attack brought on by the claustrophobia of being in the dark, hot, abyss. I try to explain that to other people and they just don't get it. Usually their only experience with fire is, fortunately for them, outside in a campfire ring or on the grill. So, they just can't comprehend it in a structure.
Tell them to watch the video of the station club fire sim. It’s haunting. People don’t seem to get that what makes smoke black is solid particles, so you can no more see through it however hazily than you can see through walls, and you can no more survive breathing it in than you can survive inhaling water
@@animula6908 i had review the investigation report on that incident for a fire investigations course I took in college as it had just happened. Also, had to do a reports on other structure fires, such as Coconut Grove and the Beverly Hills Supper Club. No lie, I've been anxious in large groups in buildings ever since. Always thinking about ways out.
There are some things in life that NO amount of talk, descriptive terms, videos, or text book explanations and lessons can prepare you for. "Instant Zero Visibility" is one of those things. If you've never seen it, you just don't get it. Navy Bootcamp intro'ed me to the fire and smoke version. It's either bright and zero vis' or dark and zero vis'... BUT it's still zero vis', and that first time, for a few minutes, it's disorienting. Part of how our brains calculate the basic "up" or "down" relative to our body position is by sight, and when it's taken away, we have to reckon with that... That helps with dealing in zero vis'... AND I have, even outside of the Navy... It also helps understand when someone else has had experience in the stuff. It's just worth remembering that the only way you REALLY understand what zero vis' is like, is to get into a patch of zero vis' for yourself... ;o)
I live out in the boonies, and we use a 55gal drum to burn paper and plastic waste in (yeah yeah I know, not the best for the environment, but garbage services are expensive AF here and it ain't like a landfill or the ocean is a better place for it). Just a little 55gal drum with some random paper waste, like paper towels, paper plates, that kinda shit gets real hot. I mean, REAL hot. Like, you stand within 10 feet of it and it's uncomfortably warm _even in the winter._ That's to say nothing about what happens if you give it a large corrugated cardboard box. Then, you need to step back to about 15 feet. This is just a tiny, tiny fire that you could put out with a hand extinguisher in seconds. Then I think about what a building fire must be like and I just can't comprehend the huge brass balls it takes to walk into that shit to get people out alive. If I were ever in such a fire... I don't care how you get me out. Drag me by the arms, the legs, whatever. If you get me out alive, I'll be fricken happy.
@@AmericanIdiot7659 I was actually banned and blocked from creating a new account, I called Joe Walsh a pansy, sadly, there are a few things that weren't political, such as a few cooking youtube series where the only real interaction with the hosts was Twitter, but hey, less stress is good.
I had a great appreciation for firefighters before, but when I got a personal tour from my local fire chief I couldn't even convey how much appreciation I had for them after that. Something I probably will never forget.
Besides the smoke and CO, heat is an issue as well. Did fire fighting training as part of being an embassy guard. They set a training building on fire and we entered to fight the fire in full gear. As we were in a hallway spraying water from a hose in a circular pattern (floor, wall, ceiling, wall), the instructor had each of us slowly rise up from a squat one at a time until we couldn't take the heat. I didn't rise up much more than a foot before it felt like the hair on my head was starting to curl through my gear and I went back down. Carrying someone on your shoulder in that would not do them any favors if fire is present.
That's exactly how I was trained to do so, therefore that's exactly how I'll perform, regardless of whatever reporter says whatever about me. As long as the victims are being brought on in a safely and timely manner, then nobody has any ground to stand on to criticize, regarding the tactics that was used to help secure the victim or victims. Great job FDNY, y'all guys are heavily respected amongst the firefighter community all across the US.
I am a first time viewer of your channel and have liked, subscribed and clicked the bell. I see that this post is nearly a year old, but I admired the content, attitude, information and presentation of this short video. Additionally, NOBODY should ever pick on firefighters! You guys are almost always engaged in situations that focused on saving lives of anyone who is in danger---often at at incredible personal risks. I have never been a firefighter---but for several years I was a workers' compensation claims examiner out here in California who became an expert on public safety officers under Lahor Code 4850, et al. While that code includes polices officers (including University Officers), I was the sole examiner of a self-insured, Joint Powers Authority, which was, in this case, a significant group of generally small and rural fire agencies that had pooled their resources together to be able to become self-insured under California laws and regulations. I got to know a lot of these guys and their Battalion Chiefs, Chiefs, Captains and regular guys (which included volunteers) and there were times I had to fight hard for what was right for these guys. Never against the Third-Party Administrator I was employed by---and rarely by the Districts themselves, who usually had a limited understanding of the law and presumptions that were in these very small, rural communities---whom I had the honor of meeting with and explaining the reasons for the best practice handling of these claims, after which there was almost never any further issues or resistance. It was my honor to ensure that these people---not perfect, but virtually always heroic, got the benefits and best medical care available and whom I always did my best to explain the often confusing and complex issues that are particular to the venue of this arena. I am proud of that association with the men and women with whom I had the honor to get to know and help in any way I could. God bless the Firefighters, EMTs, Paramedics, Chiefs, Officers, firefighters, secretaries and volunteers of this nation.
it's so nice that he was willing to not only explain why the dragging existed, but also ACKNOWLEDGE that it may be concerning to those who weren't in the industry, and didn't know better.
I feel the same people that “report” on this (as well as those whom agree) should be given the opportunity to be rescued by the means that they deem “appropriate.” My father, a volunteer firefighter for many years, always told me if I was ever stuck in a fire with no way out and no hope, to simply stand up and take a deep breath.. the somewhat quick / painful death of instantly roasting your lungs and throat is far better then the horribly slow and much more painful alternative...
@@TheOReport1994 25 dead, over 700 police injured, dozens of businesses destroyed (including black owned ones) and BILLIONS of dollars damage. Yeah mostly peaceful
I did my first fire fighting course back in late 2020 and he's not lying. It was frigging dark in that room, hot and i was sure I used up more oxygen than what I was allowed. Also we were training in giant metal structure meant to resemble the inside of a ship. Thank goodness for helmets, I must knocked my head twice in the dark.
I wish these “media experts” would sign waivers and receive initial basic rescue training without fire. Then, they should conduct the same exercise within a burn building fire evolution.
This can never be said enough.... THANK YOU!!!!! ❤️ fire, police, EMT, paramedics all do things I can’t imagine doing. This channel makes me laugh out loud constantly but in reality anyone that can do this job is a hero to me. They sacrifice time with their loved ones and put their lives on the line for complete strangers. Thank you is not enough to show my appreciation for all that you do. I will be happy to have you pull me from a burning building upside down and backward if I can get out alive.
Woah, I've been binge watching these the passed couple of days and just now realized you're from Rockford Illinois, I was born there so it blew me away a bit lol that's fire
I love this world we live in where we are questioning even the highest, most trained, experts in the fields of study or practice because, "meh, I don't like the way that looked, so it can't be right." Look people, stop questioning EVERYTHING. Ya there are times to take various things into account and question it. Like "Why the hell has nothing been done about Breonna Taylor killers?" Question something like that! Not "Mmmmm, these firefighters just saved everyone that was in the burning building AND put out the fire to limit the damage to the rest of the building. But since they caused damage to the walls and dragged people out keeping them in the safe zone, we should question this!" Seriously... people, just stop!
Nothing was done about her "Killers" Because her drugged out boyfriend shot at police through the front door. She was killed when they were returning fire at him. Real life isn't a video game when you get yourself caught in crossfire you are probably going to die. As you said yourself find something real to complain about.
i completely disagree, you should question as much as possible. the step the media is missing is that you should do research on the topic to THEN (and only then) critizise the actions. in this case if they did their research there would be no critizism. we as the human race are only moving forward if we continue to question stuff, so dont just accept stuff, think about why it is and get some info on the topic to then maybe make a change in the world.
@@Max-me9ol not all media is like that. Those that are are trained the wrong way and are just trying to get somthing out as fast as possiable in a now information socitity. As a member of the media i do it the right way. Dont generalize media to encompass all of us.
the media only likes a dead victim. when people do they job and no one dies it hurts the medias power and wallet. uninjured living victim is not easy to make money on. a dead victim easy money easy power.
Of course victims should get rescued! As long as the rescue has calendar picture quality. I mean come on! How does it look on instagram if you're dragged along the floor???
Thank you for your service. Arm chair quarterbacking is rarely productive. Replaying your actions in an after action brief can be very beneficial. There is a major difference between the two. Outsiders can have productive input, but a fundamental understanding of the tasks is necessary to discuss improvements. Thank you again. God bless you.
I can hear the rattling of cancel culture all over this one. "How dare that firefighter save someone's life by dragging them on the floor. I bet that firefighter didn't even ask for consent to touch the victim." 😂😂😂 People are a joke trying to armchair quarterback professional firefighters. Great video, keep it up.
Don't worry, as firefighters we are aware that anyone with bright green, bright blue or bright pink hair has refused consent to be rescued, with anyone else consent is assumed ;) (btw, that was obviously a joke, we rescue everyone... I should not have to write that disclaimer but there are idiots out there)
OMG How Low R People Goin To Go To Even Question Or Criticize Firemen Now That Blows My Mind Yall R Real Life Heros And Words Can't Explain How Grateful We All For All Of Yall Merry Christmas Everybody
If you get me out of a fire and save my life by kicking me out like a soccer ball, if I'm alive, I will fall to my knees and thank you profusely. Of you get me out alive, I don't care how you did it... Thank You!!!!!
I learned fire safety after my garage burned down when I was 7, it was attached to our house. The only thing that saved our house from going up in flames and killing us all was the fact that the house was built and then sold to us by the former fire chief. When he ordered the house built, he built the fire wall between the garage and house 3 inches thicker than standard, just on his own experience and desire to keep his family safe. They never had a fire, but we did the year after we moved in. Fireworks + drunk mom dropping cigarettes = crazy flames. The garage burnt to a crisp. The house stood, and just had roof damage. The fire wall kept it off long enough for a man stumbling home from the bar to break down our door and wake up my parents, then neighbors helped until the fire department arrived. If the fire chief hadn’t built our house that way, we might have lost everything and even our lives. Our cats even managed to survive by crawling under the crawl space gap in the fire wall, then breaking out of a screen in area under the porch. It was truly miraculous. I’m not a fire fighter but I’ve dedicated large portions of my free time to learning fire safety and educating my peers because of this experience. You remind me of the fire man that was kind enough to go in my house, find my stuffed rabbit that I was crying for, and bring it back to me. You have similar features. I enjoy your content so much, and appreciate you for everything you do. You guys don’t get told this enough: Thank you for your service.
Ooooh my god people will find ANYTHING to complain about. I don't care if you have to pull me out by my hair, as long as I make it out alive! I appreciate you guys service and know how much it truly entails. Sick and crazy to me people can't just see it and be grateful 😪
I spent 10 years as a volunteer fire fighter. I would have traded my life to save someone's life in a fire. Fire fighters are trained, more training then you can imagine. We give up our lives outside of the dept to serve our communities.
Firefighter: shocked the news would question them and trying to desperately correct them Police officer: Shocked the news would ever question a firefighter... Then laugh hysterical as the firefighter puts effort into correcting the news... Welcome to the club Jason.... 😂😂😂
How else were they supposed to bring him out if they grabbed him by one of his arm they would have peeled the flash right off his skin. Another singer to think about is How likely are you to receive severe burns on your armpit before other parts of your body think about it firefighters are trained to save lives. a retired firefighter i knew and I were talking as we were having lunch one day and I had dug up enough courage to ask him a question that was not easy for me to ask (due to my own issues on living with combat related PTSD). I didn't know what kind of response to expect but I felt he would understand why I asked. As we sat there waiting for our food I looked around and there was not a single living person in the restaurant other than the 2 of us and I hear this inner voice telling me to ask him and ask him now. Next thing I know I say to him "sir I know this is no where near profession or polite of me to be asking you about this and I would nothing but respect if you didn't want to answer.... how many people?" and he started to say he does know the number of people he saved. I looked straight into his eyes and said "sir I'm not talking about the ones you were able to save. I know you had calls, that probably haunted you for years, where victims didn't survive" and I left the question alone when he broke eye contact and looked down and said "too many" and not another word. approximately 15 to 20 mins since I had asked him the question has gone by and we were done eating and heading to the permit and code enforcement office and I hear him say "xx people" not knowing what he was talking about I responded with 'what's up' and he says "xx people I couldn't save. To this day some still haunt me and I lay awake for hours on end going over ever second of every one of them thinking if I had done this differnt or if I had done that different and asking god to forgive him for not being able to save them."
Sure wish you would have written this so it could be read easily. Your lack of punctuation, grammar "skills," syntax and editing made for such slop, it's impossible to get past the first two dozen words.
Having spent 30 Years in Non Fire Rescue, I can assure people that the Greatest Survivability in any Fire Emergency, is to be Found Outside of the Building.
The public's problem wasn't really how they rescued them, but the fact that they just set them down outside and left them unattended for several minutes, didn't even check to see if they're alive or get a bag on them.
@@Unnecessarilylongexplanations I'm guessing they abandoned them outside to go back inside and save more people. Turns out you go from alive to dead a LOT faster inside a burning building than out.
Brandon Ojeda He’ll find out when people start suffering because of a lack of emergency resources. What does he expect to happen? People learn how to fight fires and handle medical emergencies on their own? Get rid of people in government who aren’t doing anything useful before you get rid of first responders.
Keeping someone low to the ground was one of the things I was taught in my confined space course, and that didn't even have anything to do with fire. It's just harder to lift people in a LOT of scenarios (low/collapsed ceiling, anyone?), and therefore slower and more dangerous.
The very fact that you have to explain this, shows just how low the level of intelligence has became in this wonderful age of technology and fingertip accessibility to all things!!! We are drowning in this new age of stupidity....
I did 32 years of military and federal law enforcement and have nothing but the utmost respect for firefighters. 100% I would rather go through a door to arrest an armed fugitive than go into a burning building. These people are built different, they face unimaginable dangers and if they come in to get you out of a burning building the last thing you need concern yourself with is style points, be grateful.
As a member of the FDNY, I’m just gonna equate this to technology. Now the general public sees the nitty gritty of what we actually do and not the romanticized Hollywood aspect. The Monday morning quarterbacks will never understand.
I work in a big nursing home (5 floors). Each unit has a single "med sled" for moving residents down the stairs. The fire chief is my friends dad and told me those would absolutely not get used simply because there is no time to move one person at a time on some fancy plastic sled and then haul it back up several flights of stairs. That they will literally just drag them down the stairs, possibly on a bed sheet/blanket if they can but they are there to save lives, not make people comfy.
God bless you and every last First responder! I weigh about 300 pounds, and I feel sorry for the poor bastard that finds me unconscious in a burning building. I can state without hesitation that I would be eternally grateful that he would even attempt to drag my fat carcass down flights of stairs and out into safety. A few bumps and bruises is far better than dying of smoke inhalation or worse. _> (I am losing weight, BTW)
98.2% of Firefighters could care less what the media says, there is 1.8% of little snowflakes that get all but hurt..you know the ones doing tik tok videos, the Hey Look at me guys, the house is on fire lets all stop for a photo opp...
not gonna lie tho, chocking someone to death to arrest them, which requires the person to be ALIVE (no one wants to cuff a cold body), seems questionable as they might as well use a gun for killing and taser for arresting
@@GeneralG1810 It definitely happens. I'm a ff in Australia too and yeah, never happened at our station but we've had emails go out and group chats about not being a boot.
@@Harsh-tf9he The problem with that statement is that 1. That rarely happens, when it does it's bad but it never really happens and 2. Choking someone out and choking them to death are very different. Plenty of law enforcement agencies allow officers to (if warranted for the situation) perform a carotid choke (choking blood from the brain) because the person doesn't suffocate, they just lose oxygen in blood flow to the brain and pass out, it only takes a few seconds and as far as chokes go, it's pretty safe. When I did BJJ we got blood choked out somewhat regularly and you wake up a few moments later feeling dizzy for a few minutes but that's it. Now, you can definitely overdo it and choke people to death this way but it would need to be due to poor training or deliberate. I'm not an expert but in my limited experience, it seems to me you'd need to have some serious intent. The other thing you gotta remember is no law enforcement agencies train their cops to shoot to kill (not including marksmen). You shoot to stop, sometimes that means 1 shot, sometimes that means 20, hopefully it means you don't have to shoot at all. God forbid you need to shoot someone, you shoot until the threat is no longer a threat. Unfortunately that means people can die, more often than not they survive. This is why police shoot centre of seen mass (generally the torso) also because that's the safest place to shoot someone, for both them and everyone else. Tasers are not a substitute for the gun, they are another tool. Just because they fire a projectile doesn't mean they are intended to be used where a gun should be. Tasers, like any tool or weapon are circumstantial and their use is not always appropriate for the situation. Often tasers just straight fail to do anything other than piss someone off but if you have time, it makes sense that tasers should be your first option. Obviously not every situation gives an officer time. Sometimes officers don't even have time to give a command and their only option is to shoot.
I looked into this myself because it pissed me off and I got the full story. Some people are pissed about how they were dragged like ragdolls - which if they did any research or even idk fucking ASKED a Firefighter they would know what it's like. Those people annoy the shit out of me However, What MOST people are having a problem with is NOT how the Firefighter's rescued them - but what happened once they got outside. They just dragged them and left them on the pavement for several minutes and no one began emergency treatment on them despite many of those outdoors having prior training to do so - aka they were both FF's and EMT'S. Several of the officers in the higher-ups of the department even said that how they were treated PRIOR to rescue was gnarly to watch. They did the correct thing inside, but not much outside. Please y'all fact check we can avoid a lot of internet arguments and shit.
You didn't look into it very deeply. The building's surveillance video recorded the entire incident on the ground floor. The male was dragged straight out of the building and the FDNY says he was treated immediately. The 2 females are laid out on the floor INSIDE, which could have been done for a number of reasons, and stokes baskets are brought in to move them. Sounds like there were as many as 12-15 apparatus which means the ambulances were not close. Since we do not carry stokes baskets or wheel our tools around on a stretcher inside a fire building, they had to go get those stokes baskets. At any time those FFs could have deemed it too dangerous to rescue those victims, who'd collapsed behind the door, blocking it closed. Instead they risked their lives to save 3 others. None of the concerns or complaints in this case have any merit whatsoever.
@@nmbr5ml Ambulances Don't put out fires, Engine assholes on here, whats the saying. More lives are saved with a fast and aggressive interior attack. Blah Blah
Been binge watching your stuff. Tic toks, green screens and these. Thank you and your brothers and sisters for the wok you put in. Especially with all the risk.
I grew up in a fire department. man speaks nothing but truth. You're a rockstar among rockstars. keep it up, keep doing what you do, and keep coming back alive, man.
