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Wasn't it two or 3 months ago Karl said he wanted to collab with Atun-shei? And here we are now. Karl you mad man, you can't just say you want to do something and then actually do it! You spoil us.
Like Karl's antibiotics proposal for most underrated historical event, I think there's a strong argument that the Haber process has had the biggest impact on human quality of life of any development in modern history. The ability to mass produce fertilizer is the main reason the human population went from 1.6 billion in 1900 to 6 billion at the end of the century.
In the same vein, Norman Ernest Borlaug's Green Revolution is perhaps another example, on a generational level anyway. During his day he was certainly acknowledged, but most people under the age of 40 seem completely unaware of the man and movement that made a third of the world's populated area actually capable of feeding it's population.
As someone who's career is farming full time, I like this answer, I think the fact that there is an absolutely tiny proportion of the population that farms (1.9% in the US I think it is) and is able to feed the rest of the population plus much of the world. Modern food technology is an interesting topic in general as it is completely taken for granted, and also misunderstood. It is a double edged sword, the effects of how quickly man made fertilizers became the norm without understanding their full affects until now, arguably too late. Now how to balance the need for cheap food with the need for sustainable food that helps maintain and fix the environmental concerns.
That is where my engineer brain went too. Bosch process let's us have all these more billions of people without mining south Pacific islands for guano.
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Yeah there was a huge issue with police brutality, and many members of the BPP were lawyers or law students so they would follow police around and watch them when they arrested people reciting laws and penal codes to make sure that no one was treated unfairly.
And remember: thou art a wretched sinner, utterly unworthy of Gods love. A fount of pollution is deep within they nature, and though art as a winter tree, unprofitable, fit only to be hewn down and burnt.
I don't think it would work, the Witchfinder would probably consider such technology communicating instantly over fast distances devilry and command Karl to be brought before the magistrate in the shire in which he dwell.
Karl's comment on how the moon landing was less important than what people generally regard it as elicited the most negative emotional response in me of any the controversial statement he's made.
It’s interesting how the Soviets never went to the moon because they deemed the risk of people dying to big and that it didn’t serve much purpose in a scientific way after the research that nasa did there
"It's a problem when too much power is concentrated in one place - doesn't matter if it's a government or a corporation" So goddamn refreshing to hear this in a sector that is usually dominated by conservative/pro-corporate politics (online at least). Definitely cements this channel as my favorite firearms-related one on this site
Actually, government IS less shitty. Try to FOIA RU-vid or Amazon. Try to compel the RU-vid or Amazon to adhere to "open meetings, legislation." Try compel the private corporation to share details of their financials with you. Government sucks, but it sucks less than for-profit, private firms. Public is better than private. Just years of propaganda have polluted Auth-Shei's & Karl's generally smart, but with huge blindspots in political-economy, thinking about the world. Foundationally, private for-profit firms don't have to be either transparent or even pretend to be democratic. Public sector organizations have to be minimally transprarent and at least pretend to be democratic and accountable to the people. It is incredibly hard, but we of the everyday people and masses, can and occassionally do get politically organized and engaged and compel the public sector to be more transparent, more democratic, and more egalitarian. This is the history of the last several centuries, everyday people have compelled to elites to share some power and some resources because we have fought for it. The elites (govt., NGO and for-profit) concede nothing without our struggle.
I have to say, I disagree with the moon landing not having much of an effect on humanity. The technology developed during and preceding the Apollo missions impacted everyone's life significantly. Modern society cannot function without satellites, and a lot of launch and orbit calculation and general spaceflight techniques are still used today when we launch modern satellites.
Satellites have indeed transformed our lives, but we didn't need the moon landing for that. At the time, the great Tom Lehrer referred to it as putting "some clown on the moon," which is unfair to the astronauts, but less so to the project.
The Moon landing was an arbitrary goal that was set up as a pr stunt rather than for the scientific research. As I posted somewhere else the Soviets did risk assessment of a moon landing and deemed the risk to high weighed against the potential scientific gains
@@ciggy_ While the moon landing specifically was a case of cold war one-upsmanship, one should remember that the rocketry research that occurred as a result of the space race was also applicable to the US nuclear arsenal.
eBay went sideways in a similar way that RU-vid has. Started out as folks selling this or that they had laying around to those people being overwhelmed by "stores" that overshadow the little guys.
This is one of those rare crossover collaborations that probably actually helps both channel's viewership discover another channel they might like rather than just two channels pandering to a shared audience.
“The best argument against Democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” - Churchill. Likewise when dealing with the comments section, going through the worst of comments must be, at times, soul-destroying and discouraging. My sympathies, Sirs.
@@509Gman The transistor exists in the Fallout universe though, as does the integrated circuit. It also has robots, sentient AI, and extremely compact energy sources, so that comparison might not be the best one.
I can't figure out of I'm (and by extention; we) are stuck in a youtube bubble: it seems more and more my favorite youtubers all know of each other and collaborate, and it's Micky Ds (I'm loving it)! Be awesome to get some InRange/ForgottenWeapons collab with Cynical Historian, Knowing Better and This Old Tony. Not sure exactly how that would work, but would be awesome.
Fantastic conversation with Atun-Shei, thanks Karl! Having said that - I'll die on a hill over calling the historical impact of the Apollo Program overrated. There are three reasons that Apollo had a significant, quantifiable and maybe even critical difference to the fates of nations and the lives of millions: Soft Power, Technological Supremacy and Environmental Awareness. 1. Soft Power I don't think you'll find a better example in history of a successful soft power initiative - the impact of the Program on global perceptions of the United States can't be overstated. The Apollo story - *With Peace and Hope For All Mankind* - reinforced the idea of the USA as a benevolent global leader and provided a counter-narrative to the Soviet propagandist's dream that was the carpet bombing of small countries in south-east Asia. It reinforced alliances and influenced the policies of the countries that hovered between the Western and Soviet spheres. There are 150 Presidents and Prime Ministers around the globe who received moon rocks - that's the kind of office display piece that makes you think seriously about what America can do when it sets its mind to it. 2. Technological Supremacy The need to invent new materials, technologies and techniques made the US the undisputed leader in aeronautics, materials science, computing and software. Technology was the driving force that made the US economy predominant in the latter part of the 20th century and ensured that the US military had the technological edge in every domain of the battlespace. This in turn helped to deter conflict and maintain the global status quo. Perhaps most importantly, the impact of Apollo in both the Soft Power and the Technological domains drove the Soviets to compete with the US, forcing them to burn vast quantities of treasure on projects that the communist system could not afford - first with the Soviet lunar program and subsequently with the Buran shuttle - hastening the demise of the Soviet Union. While some have argued that the Fall of Communism was inevitable, it is also quite possible that it could have persisted longer or even into the present day in some flavour similar to the current ChiCom regime. In this way the Apollo program helped bring freedom from Communism to the lives of millions in oppressed countries like Poland - years or perhaps even decades sooner than would have otherwise been achieved. 3. Environmental Awareness The space program has always been a critical component of our stewardship of the environment (we research the impacts of climate change over decades via satellite, and satellites allow us to monitor and respond to natural disasters in real-time in unprecedented detail) but Apollo in particular entered the public conscience at key moment in the history of environmentalism. The iconic "Earthrise" photograph captured by the Apollo 8 crew from low lunar orbit on Christmas 1968 - showing the tiny fragile marble of the Earth rising above the cratered hostility of the moon, against the cold empty vacuum of space - instantly became one of the most influential photographs of all time. The photo captures in a unique way several ideas that cannot be easily committed to words - the fragility of the Earth, its unique place as a harbour to life in the cold and hostile cosmos, and the need to protect Earth so that it does not become just another lifeless rock in the universe. Environmental awareness bloomed in the 1970s, and images like "Earthrise" helped share the narrative in a simple yet stunning way that defies all cultural and linguistic barriers. Further, watching humans walk, work and even live (on the later "J" type multi-day missions - 15, 16 and 17) in the cratered dust of the lunar surface helped to highlight to people on Earth the innate fragility of life and the pressing importance of preserving our unique garden in the void. By summary - the legacy of Apollo, difficult though it is to quantify, is significant, under-appreciated, and touches the lives of every single person on the planet. Within a hundred years or so, the 20th Century will be regarded as a violent aberration starring the most grotesque and vile aspects of human nature - filled with violence and warfare of unprecedented scales - in this story the Apollo Program stands alone as a counterpoint. If civilisation persists for another thousand years, Apollo may be the only event from the 2nd Millennium recalled by any but history buffs and military enthusiasts. (Or AI Overlords / SkyNet?)
One thing I would counter (respectfully) would be what Karl said about the moon landing. I would say the act itself isn't necessarily life changing on a day to day basis, the inventions that came out of that program for sure changed our lives. Here are some examples! www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/08/space-race-inventions-we-use-every-day-were-created-for-space-exploration/39580591/
I would say that the moon landing was a mostly very big, important ceremonial event. The first human on mars will be too. In practice, not nearly as important as medical advances for example.
@@antongrahn1499 Yes I agree totally. But many medical advances have been made by Scientists at Nasa. We understand bone density and muscle atrophy so much better. Nasa even invented certain artificial limbs. Personally I believe that certain inventions that will assist in our reconstruction of a proper atmosphere will probably come from the space program. We won't be able to get off Fossil Fuels quickly enough to make a difference.
When Atun Shei was thinking about his answer to the first question, I was thinking "the American Revolution: not that revolutionary", and then out he came with it.
The Moon Landing I think was in fact a spectacular world-changing achievement, but more for what sprang from the project (things like the development of compact computer technologies and the like) than the actual event itself.
@@the_bw_trekkie No. Integrated circuits and the early days of Silicon Valley were driven by ICBM development. Manned space flight just piggy-backed on that.
With respect, the lunar landing is more significant than it is thought of today. It caused significant technological advances that are still having ripple effects to this day. Advances in alloys, micro computing, microchips, and even aerospace safety all came from that. The infant microchip industry got a huge shot in the arm from the Apollo program that had a significant impact on the creation of Silicon Valley. Many of the modern technologies we use trace their lineage back to this event. They are just so common now, they seem mundane now. As a result we keep taking those technologies for granted and do not think of their origin .
As someone conditioned to 10-15 minute youtube videos, an hour in and I am still watching. Also, as a southerner: Checkmate - I really enjoy Atun-Shei's channel.
Unfortunately that “Old West” style of stupid violence will never go away. I was at a bar the other night and two grown-ass men got into a fight over the use of an ashtray. An ashtray.
Hay Cancel Culture is just a non violent form of Vigilantisim so the Wild West is still alive and well, hell we even have Snake oil sales men sell more powerful bleach. (oh and don't forget about the Evangelicals)
@@forickgrimaldus8301 It's actually kind of impressive how people like you can work in "cancel culture" into any discussion. I'd like to see how you'd do it in other situations. "I ran out of gas, this is vehicular cancel culture!"
Genuine compression/trauma medical equipment isn't that expensive. Good trauma packs are vacuum sealed. I've had the same ones & tourniquet in my backpack for years. The training costs a lot more than the gear And both are long term investments much more likely to be used than a firearm. My version of a background check for a handgun would include presenting your first aid certification & trauma kit. The 2nd amendment should be read to include body armor, shooting glasses, ear protection, silencers and medical equipment!
My pick for overrated historical event is the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand. Even if it had not happened, the forces driving the Great Powers towards a major conflict were all already in place. It was just a convenient excuse for a whole lot of people in power to do what they wanted to do anyways, and they would have found some other excuse.
I think it is usually taught in that light though, where you cannot forget the actual event, but everyone knows it just happens to be the one history decided on, so to speak.
Austria-Hungary and Russia had already mobilized in 1913 over disagreements in the Balkans. Indeed war scares and close calls were almost annual in the years before Sarajevo.
I think the moon landing was a strong morale boost for the American people for a decade or two, but that has now worn off. Also, "Violence should never be glorified" + "I think its just such a cool story about that guy hacking up another guy with a hatchet."
1622 massacres in the Virginia colony ranks with King Phillips War in terms of setting the cultural stage for the perpetual conflict between European colonists fleeing oppression in the old feudal countries and the Natives. Ten there is Bacon's Rebellion in 1676 that failed but did result in the division of the rowdy poor blacks and whites and the dehumanization of the blacks.
