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@TheLinuxEXP 9 дней назад

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@KosmicWolf 9 дней назад

I don’t mind Fedora or foss projects having telemetry if they’re not collecting personal data, it’s opt in (instead of opt out) and it does help the development of the project

@atsizbalik 9 дней назад

the issue starts when they sell the data

@fluoriteByte 9 дней назад

@@atsizbalik i doubt diagnostic data about crashes is monetizable

@tablettablete186 9 дней назад

@@atsizbalikFOSS funding problems are about to be solved 😂

@StarlordStavanger 9 дней назад

I'm gonna enable it to help the devs

@samuelllakaj5439 9 дней назад

What they collect IS personal data. Even your screen resolution, when combined with all the other info, like CPU, RAM, GPU, storage and DESKTOP USAGE PATTERNS can turn into a very complete print of your computer. Even that is used nowadays to sell for adverts. I'm not a geek myself but Some Ordinary Gamers explained all this in a video.

@ErichGeiger 9 дней назад

A lot of educational organizations use Chrome devices and the ability to use old hardware but integrate it into google management/admin/inventory tracking/support systems is incredibly useful.

@TheLinuxEXP 9 дней назад

True!

@Berecutecu 9 дней назад

It is very secure too, the main downside is how privacy invasive this thing is. Not very cool to have data collected from kids, imho.

@CommodoreFan64 9 дней назад

Yep this was the reason Google bought Neverware which made CloudReady OS, aka Chrome OS Flex. The biggest issue I've had with Chrome OS Flex, and why I feel it's not been more widely adopted is Google doesn't make a straight ISO easy to find, and download the way Neverware did with CloudReady, nor does Google really promote it like Neverware did when they were in charge of the project.

@SkyyySi 9 дней назад

@@BerecutecuIt's especially uncool because it's not like the children have another choice. After all: What are you gonna do about it? Not do your assignments?

@pyp2205 9 дней назад

That's true, but I think it can depend on the education organization (funding, choices, etc.). I remember in elementary school I had MacBooks as school laptops, which is surprising now that I think back to it. In middle school I had chrome books, and I remember there was a mix of new and old laptops. While in highschool I had windows laptops and workstations, but there was a couple classes where I had iMacs (they got replaced by windows desktops a couple years ago). Now I still use Windows for my bachelor studies, but plan on ditching Windows for Fedora in the future.

@guss77 9 дней назад

Let's not over estimate the importance of the regreSSHion bug - there's only an exploit for i386 that takes on average 100,000 tries to manage RCE (each run takes at least 2 minutes because it exploits a timeout handler). Qualys did not manage to create an AMD64 exploit and they think it would much harder. Also Qualys practices responsible disclosure and major distributions are already patched - Ubuntu had a fix 5 days before the public disclosure and my servers were automatically patched on the day of the disclosure.

@thingsiplay 9 дней назад

AI The AI isn't just trained on your data. AI is trained on all other data still and you feed it with your own data afterwards. GPT4all does that too, where we can download AI models and then feed it with our own files to run locally. The models are still trained on "unkwown" data from the web, so they are not clean!

@temari2860 8 дней назад

It depends on the model Deepin uses. You can for example check Open-Llama's datasets and decide for yourself if it's ethical for you or not.

@thingsiplay 8 дней назад

@@temari2860 I wasn't talking about being ethical, but more wanted to explain that these AI models are trained before. Just reading the users own files would not work, because they would not have any AI data they are trained on, to make sense of your files. That was basically what I tried to explain. There is no AI model you can use, without having them trained on "some" data. It's not about the ethics.

@charlesdoesmore5488 7 дней назад

@@temari2860And of course they can't use Google's Gemma, so they probably use Alibaba's Qwen model.

@frederichardy8844 9 дней назад

ChromeOS flex have great avantage over a lot of distros: You can install it for your parents, grand parents and friends who are NOT power users and just want something simple. It can save you a lot of time in support!

@mjb-voice 9 дней назад

That's exactly what I did! It works great because it's like Mom's Pixel.

@RagnarinVa 9 дней назад

Oh man do I feel you on this one - I was a part time IT support help desk for my 84 year old mom until I got her on Chrome OS.

@MindCaged 8 дней назад

I haven't really used it much except for a few minutes when I gave it a try off a USB, but from what I've heard it's very good on cheap netbook hardware, probably because chromebooks basically /are/ cheap netbooks. Supposedly the battery life is very good because there's almost nothing running on it, and not sure how the boot/running speed is. However I'm sure there's /probably/ a lightweight linux distro that's comparable and actually lets you install regular programs more easily than the extra hoops you have to go through on chromeOS.

@frederichardy8844 8 дней назад

@@MindCaged That's the thing: it's not made for peopple who want to install programs, it's for email, browsing internet,... basic usage. All the basics are in your gmail account (GoogleDocs, google drive), all the updates are automatic, no question asked: it's for non tech users. In case of problem, if it's software you do a Powerwash (kind of factory reset), you reconnect to your google account and the only thing you lost is the setting of your background image! If it's hardware you find another PC, install Chromeos flex and same thing, all your data are there. Of course you give up a good part of your private informations do google but it's the price to pay is you don't want to learn how to use linux!

@lussor1 8 дней назад

You should never use it. Does not respect privacy, its a whole OS!!!!

@mjb-voice 9 дней назад

I would hate for ChromeOS Flex to go away. You are right on so many fronts but it was the best thing I could set up for my mother on a mini PC. Because it uses similar apps to her android phone, it prevents confusion.

@charlesdoesmore5488 7 дней назад

Yes! While many people discouraged using it because Google, it would be great to to just relax, knowing that the new OS is more friendly and no more incoming calls from mom.

@NordicFrog 9 дней назад

I'm totally fine with telemetry, as long as I know what information is collected and how it's used. And the developers give me the option to turn it off.

@TheLinuxEXP 9 дней назад

Same here!

@ThePriceIsNeverRight 9 дней назад

Also knowing it's for the greater good

@Buddha1992 9 дней назад

I am totally fine with it only if the telemetry app is only being installed after I turn it on, not automatically pre-installed, collecting data and only waiting till you click "wrong" button to start sending it. Cause otherwise I would have to trust that the program won't bug out (or intentionally be broken) and ignore the fact that permission is set to off. And nowadays I no longer have that trust in any piece of software. Or if it is not blocking me from uninstalling the software.

@StarlordStavanger 9 дней назад

I'm gonna enable it to help the devs

@tschorsch 9 дней назад

It needs to be opt-in, and disabled by default.

@IGqy 8 дней назад

These videos deserve more than the one like i can give! Thank you for the work you put into making these news videos!

@SetsuwaRess 9 дней назад

thanks to the dude who put the sponsorblock segments in this video in less than 13 minutes after it was uploaded

@GajendraMahat 9 дней назад

man😂😂

@TheLinuxEXP 9 дней назад

The fact that I put clear chapters labeled with « sponsor » probably helps a lot, it might even be automatable

@ys1197 9 дней назад

@@TheLinuxEXP thanks for doing that btw. Also u pick channel related sponsors which is nice to see

@ThePriceIsNeverRight 9 дней назад

Bruh

@abunk8691 9 дней назад

I was too early that there wasn't any Sponsorblock segments yet haha. Went back to the vid after ISP caused vid to dropout and there were the segments.

@frederichardy8844 9 дней назад

The problem with Telemetry is that even if it appears anonymous, by crossing informations with other sources it is less and less anyonymous...

@notNajimi 8 дней назад

Also the idea that usage data makes software better is dubious imo. It’s often used as a truism, but I can’t think of an example of analytics being used to justify a new feature or something

@sergeykish 8 дней назад

@@notNajimiLinux users often cite Steam hardware survey, 2% share of Linux users and rising

@randoguy7488 7 дней назад

@@notNajimi Well, to improve software based on usage data you need UX researchers and UX designers, both of which aren't welcome in FOSS community.

@mrdr9534 4 дня назад

@@notNajimi... The fact that something is misused by some (many) "actors" in bad faith (( for instance app-developers who "ask for, or even or require" usage and user info, just to sell the data rather than making their app better)) is in my opinion NO reason to deny other "actors" (in this case "Debian") who have legitimate reasons to have some (by You) selected data. Best regards.

@mrdr9534 4 дня назад

@@randoguy7488 ... There are PLENTY of things that can and "need" to be improved that has nothing to do with the UX. For instance knowing what age and models of hardware that used and thus are worth supporting. Knowing what hardware and software that cause crashes, what types of crashes, and the prevalence of crashes. Knowing what programs are most used to make sure they are well "catered for" on system level. None of which need "UX designer / researchers" to be of utility for the developers IF they a And I'm curious as to what makes You claim that "UX designers" aren't welcome in the FOSS community ?? Is this from some of Your personal firsthand experience as a "UX designer/researcher". Or is it possible that You mistake the reluctance from some projects to change their UX after peoples suggestions with them not being welcoming to ""UX designers""??.(( "The Gimp" come to mind)) ... Because as much as I wish that many projects would change some of their "UX" design choices to align with "User suggestions. Them not doing that is NOT the same thing as "not welcoming UX designers/researchers. That is simply them (who most likely are not UX designers them selves) choosing not to take on UX design suggestions from their users ((In many cases possibly a bad choice imo, but not the same thing)) That doesn't mean that they wouldn't (potentially) welcome a "UX designer/researcher" with open arms if one offered to contribute to the project!! Best regards.

@BarafuAlbino 9 дней назад

To create a locally running LLM(AI), one still needs to gather a lot of data from the Internet, to make it able to understand the language. And it can not be only the collection of free books, or that AI will always reply with a page worth of text. One needs a lot of random dialogs between people to make an LLM(AI).

@Angerdomeable 9 дней назад

Nothing wrong with that of course. If it's reading something that anyone can access like a publicly accessed forum for example then that is perfectly fine. The problem starts to arrive when private information that is not normally accessible like DMS or emails are included in its training data because it was sold. As long as those sort of systems are trained on something literally anyone can access through a simple Google search then it's completely ethical.

@BarafuAlbino 8 дней назад

@@Angerdomeable That is not the position many vocal people take. "Those participating in a forum did not give explicit permission to use their output in AI, thus the forum can not be scanned for AI without prior explicit permission from every participant" - they say. Basically, those activists say "Only Goggle may make AI" because only Google can follow their rules because money.

@notNajimi 8 дней назад

@@BarafuAlbinowho is the they here? also I don’t follow the logic you’re using, that requiring informed consent means only Google can do it. Google is pretty allergic to informed consent when it comes to personal data

@Angerdomeable 8 дней назад

@@BarafuAlbino Maybe, but it is what I believe. AI should be able to be trained on publicly available data. For example, take a look at my comment right now. I am posting it somewhere where anyone can see it, by posting it. I am implicitly giving anyone who is here permission to read it even if I am not saying so explicitly. I am reading your comment, you didn't give me explicit permission to do so. Does this mean that I am doing something Immoral? If the answer to that is no, then the same framework applies to AI.

@BarafuAlbino 8 дней назад

@@notNajimi Only Google can pull off asking (or pretending to) the explicit consent from everyone on the Internet. Thus if it is said that explicit consent is required to feed data to AI, only Google will be allowed to train AI on the whole public space of the Internet. Everyone else will be limited to data that was supplied with such consent without asking. Which will be the small portion of all the data, not because most people are against AI, but because most people don't care about licenses.

@photonsphere5920 9 дней назад

Yo! Are you gonna review Tuxedo Stellaris Slim 15? I really wanna see your review man!

@TheLinuxEXP 9 дней назад

If they send me one, sure!

@Ceresius 9 дней назад

VPCLMULQDQ almost kind of makes sense as a name! "V": VEX encoding; "PCLMUL": carryless multiplication; "QDQ" quadruple quadword, i.e. four 128-bit registers or 512-bits total. This type of instruction is used in symmetric encryption and cyclic redundancy checks. Several other architectures have similar instructions (usually with less cryptic names and smaller data sizes).

@nanopone 9 дней назад

another advantage that chromeos has is its excellent tablet support. in my experience (and ive tried really hard), using linux without a keyboard and mouse and only a touchscreen is extremely painful

@Bob-of-Zoid 9 дней назад

My old SONY VAIO (an X64 Laptop, not a mere tablet) has a touch screen and I use Arch/Plasma on it, and it works great. Tablets were kind of a google thing to begin with, so they are built for each other, with each other in mind, so of course they support each other, because it's by design.

@nanopone 9 дней назад

@@Bob-of-Zoid "tablets are a google thing" you gotta be kidding me... my x86_64 tablet does not have a keyboard or trackpad, and linux is almost unusable without one right now

@Bob-of-Zoid 8 дней назад

@@nanopone Thanks for confirming what i said! If Google, and some of the ARM Processor and other hardware makers would have worked with Linux in making that stuff work in Linux which they did not do, Linux would be just as capable, and it would be more of a where various distro's are with it. Even Microsoft had to go it alone because Google and a few others locked it down in their favor first this time, as Microsoft has done to others in the past, and didn't do too well, and even worse with a phone OS. Everyone loves to blame Linux for A-holes that work against it because they hate it because they can't spy on you, track you, just take your data, and fleece you for all the control and money they can squeeze out of you for doing it to you!

@nanopone 8 дней назад

@@Bob-of-Zoid dude what is this totally unrelated rant about google and arm processors? i literally only said that the linux desktop experience with a touch screen is sub par. quit your irrelevant rambling. i'm not "blaming linux for a-holes that work against it", i just said that, currently, there are a few dealbreaking bugs that make it a pain.

@Bob-of-Zoid 8 дней назад

@@nanopone Because you challenged that exactly! Just how stupid do you think I am that I don't know the very point I raised in the first place? Face it, you're just a typical big tech shill (where good tech is secondary to controlling and owning the user), and it's not something to be proud about, and a reason to look really hard for any flaw to justify your irrational thinking and pretend it's valid or justifiable! "nanopone" is right, because you are poning yourself!

@finitecrystal 9 дней назад

As far as I know, most of the existing Chromebooks that Google has pledged to support for 10 years from their platform's launch date are in fact x86 machines. I wonder if Android's x86 support will improve as a result or they only intend to get Android's kernel working on those specific devices.

@ParticularSky 6 дней назад

Android was never part of flex. Thats not even a requirement. Will continue to work all this confirms is that android is never coming to flex.

@BernardoHenriquez 8 дней назад

I think ChromeOS shell (the desktop only) should be free as another linux desktop, i like the ChromeOS layout

@frankhuurman3955 9 дней назад

About that Linux market share from Steam, since switching to Linux 3 years ago I've never received one Steam Hardware Survey even though I game on Steam a lot. I do always get them on Windows. So I'd love to contribute but the almighty Gabe must deem you worthy enough

@notNajimi 8 дней назад

I believe you can do a manual hardware survey from the settings menu in steam, but I could be wrong

@FractalFab 8 дней назад

I just installed Nobara on 3 different computers and everytime Steam asked for the survey.

@Gramini 8 дней назад

@@notNajimi You can let the Steam client scan your hardware information (menu bar => help => hardware info / system information), but I don't think it contributes to the survey.

@frankhuurman3955 8 дней назад

@@Gramini it doesn't, there's no way to trigger it manually. And interesting @FractalFab, I'm on Ubuntu since 20.04 (now 22.04) but never got the survey with the Steam .deb even though I launch it every day

@mrdr9534 4 дня назад

@@Gramini Yea that (system information) isn't "uploaded" even if You choose to "compare Your hardware"..(afaik)...But there is on the other hand the "system report" which generates a VERY comprehensive "system scan report" and that (of course) has an "Submit" button... Though I don't know if Valve uses that for their "usage stats", or if it's only used when "bug hunting" ? Best regards.

@enigmaster84 7 дней назад

"Every key you press, Every tap you make I'll be watching you" Google

@sprinklednights 9 дней назад

Google killing another product? Just another Tuesday... Also, Fedora will be hated nonetheless because of this proposal.

@hotrodjones74 6 дней назад

They kill projects like our homeboy Joseph Stalin. Kek

@QDSGames 9 дней назад

Hm, How does it add up with the statement from the fedora wiki: "This is to ensure the system is opt-out, not opt-in. This is essential because we know that opt-in metrics are not very useful. Few users would opt in, and these users would not be representative of Fedora users as a whole. We are not interested in opt-in metrics." ?

@TheLinuxEXP 9 дней назад

Weird, the initial privacy statement of the proposal says it will turned off by Defaut? « Metrics collection will default to off, and will only be enabled through a clear on/off prompt in initial setup. Users will be able to view the data that has been collected locally, and will be able to remove the client software from their systems, should they choose to do so. »

@etw5600x 9 дней назад

I think that was the first proposal. Brodie Robertson made a video about the situation, you might want to watch that

@QDSGames 9 дней назад

@@TheLinuxEXP Yeah, I think there is still an open discussion about that. But I checked again, and the post I quoted is deprecated, sorry. Here is the current statment from the wiki: "The original proposal specified that metrics upload would be disabled by default, and that the UI setup would include an on by default switch to allow users to opt out. This aspect of the proposal attracted by far the most negative feedback. As a result of this feedback, we have changed the proposal: we now propose that initial setup will show an explicit yes/no prompt which has no default value. We recognise that feedback about the opt-out UI reflected wider concerns about the privacy and transparency of the metrics system, which we have addressed through other changes." So initialy it was proposed opt-out but now they got feedback and changed it.

@QDSGames 9 дней назад

@@etw5600x Thanks! Will watch it. It's a little bit worrisome.

@tschorsch 9 дней назад

So, I will opt out of using Fedora.

@KuruGDI 5 дней назад

I think telemetry should always be opt-in only, but you should also have the chance to share your info with FOSS devs. KDE has a good tool for that: Off by default and you can select how much information you want to share (The description what each step does could be better though)

@jamesadina2424 7 дней назад

Google just launched its Chromebook Plus initiative and all of those devices use x86 hardware, most Chromebooks use x86 hardware and have long support timelines. Google is not abandoning x86 Chrome OS.

@lllIIIlIllIIll 9 дней назад

Hey Nick, how often do you water the plants in the background?

@klauserwin9860 9 дней назад

I think, the little ones are plastic, and only the big one is real. So, that palm tree only needs water once per week I guess.

@SwiatLinuksa 8 дней назад

thanks for the news. as for voice control of the system, the first one was Makulu Linux Max, unfortunately it was done online - the developer has his own "AI farm" and it is best to use it in the morning, European time, due to the low load on the server ;) but it worked very well. Didn't use OpenAi etc local model is a great topic!

@paprikaspicey 4 дня назад

Responsible telemetry is good and often necessary for software development. The problem is hidden, opt-out, crazy telemetry done typically by Big tech

@ronm6585 8 дней назад

Thanks Nick.

@Spectrulight 5 дней назад

Thanks

@SaneGhoul 2 дня назад

I really hope Chrome OS Flex continues. I've used it for the last few months on my low end laptop and I've found it loads up MUCH faster and has fewer quirks than a full Linux distro for my particular hardware. Having a device to quickly get online with and do basic tasks with is really helpful.

@BiudreuN1 9 дней назад

Are you going to review the KDE Slimbook V? It came out months ago and I am not able to find a single review. Not even comments from people.

@clemradio 9 дней назад

This kind of AI can be very useful. Thanks for the info, will be closely looking at its development!

@BeefIngot 8 дней назад

Telemetry is such a simple problem to solve. The solution isnt opt in or opt out, its make the user make a choice. This way you dont have people needing to purposefully choose it, but you also dont force it on anyone. An empty set of 2 radio buttons, both unchecked, where one needs to be checked to proceed with installation is all you would need. In terms of information, just allow people to see all of the information that will ever be sent and deselect certain bits if they so choose.

@Edward-pw6zz 9 дней назад

steam might be working on android support!

@Bareego 8 дней назад

best improvement in mint 22 beta is the software manager, a lot more snappy now

@Hr1s7i 5 дней назад

Proton seems to be crushing it out there.

@toschnias 9 дней назад

I have seen that there are a couple x86 emulators for Linux now. Mainly FEX and Box86/Box64 but i think Qemu can also do x86 emulation correct me if i'm wrong. I think it would be a interesting video comparing their emulation quality, speed and how seamless it is on the Snapdragon X Elite Laptop if you get one from Tuxedo.

@the_mariocrafter 9 дней назад

6:38 YES, BEFORE WINDOWS 10 END OF SUPPORT

@ChrisFredriksson 9 дней назад

Good as always Nick! Thanks for the news! ❤

@TheLinuxEXP 9 дней назад

Thanks for watching :)

@thingsiplay 9 дней назад

16:10 "With barbaric names..." lol

@seapanda-117 9 дней назад

Damn. I was about to install chrome os flex today on an old desktop.

@EreniK19 9 дней назад

I am currently using a Chrome OS Flex into a 2in1 Laptop, And there are many reasons why I preferr it instead of plain linux or windows. Linux is simply not there yet on tablet's.Especially for the battery Life.I hope they dont pull the plug :(

@truthdoesnotexist 9 дней назад

chrome OS flex is so stupid. a few weeks ago when you made that video about a hypothetical enshitified linux distro, it didn't have to be hypothetical, we have chromeOS and android

@iexist286 9 дней назад

since everyone else is talking about the ai or telemetry im going to talk about something completely different: mint 22 shipping with pipewire: this would be great but a lot of what i use does not work with pipewire at all. i have to stick with pulseaudio for that reason. im sure it will have the option to switch back but part of why i like arch is i have that choice when installing.

@cavvieira 6 дней назад

Mint's move to LMDE seems more and more wise as Ubuntu keeps dropping deb packaging of important packages. Then there's their initiative of boosting XApp with other GTK based DEs. I hope they can keep up with the demand they put on themselves, but it looks like they are taking steps to manage that.

@ardemus 8 дней назад

13:55 - I looked for a way to sync Proton Drive to Linux earlier today. Rclone seems like a good terminal option. There is also a GUI wrapper for it called Celeste, but it doesn't seem ready for mainstream use. I wonder if Nick knows about rclone and is avoiding it for some reason, is looking for a GUI option, or specifically wants a first party client.

@febriisnanto3063 8 дней назад

i'm glad that telemetry in Fedora is opt-in. But i'm mad about the telemetry tracking my desktop usage. Reporting some apps crash, performance issue, hardware specification is good for development. But my specific desktop usage. Does it's important how long i spend my time writing a paragraph of text in office apps, or how i draw an anime girl image on Krita? Does it will be our distro know everything our PC usage? What's importance to them about what I do with my Desktop? Selling ads? Train AI? OR will they suggest a premium course of gimp if they know i struggle making a circle in gimp? Desktop Usage pattern spy is just stupid windows move redhat do this year like "premium repo" (only "open" for paid member use it but can't redistributed, last year move)

@Gramini 8 дней назад

The things you wrote about desktop usage are not part of their telemetry. Those things aren't collected.

@knifekitty_ls 7 дней назад

well first they add option, then they can change default setting later

@khanbasharat 8 дней назад

Hello Sir, i have question i have a raspberry pi, and I want to host 2 websites on it. one will be a simple portfolio website, that's simple I think I will find solution for that. another one is an online drive like google drive/photos, in which I want to store my photos and files and use raspberry pi's storage, and connect that with an domain. is there any method to do so? i know flask website but I don't know how to host, please help!

@AAAMGGG 9 дней назад

Actually since chrome devices sometimes had touchscreen and now when we have StarLabs tablet, is there any review in plans for Starlabs tablet?

@magnethome3778 9 дней назад

I have Samsung Galaxy Chromebook 2 360, and it is based on x86_64 architecture. When google is going to rebase ChromeOS on Android, are they going to drop support for my Chromebook?

@MilanStojakov 9 дней назад

Ever Chromebook has its own end of support date.

@abunk8691 9 дней назад

I wonder how the Mint team would handle migratijg current Mint users from Pulseaudio to Pipewire with the Mint 22 update. I do hope that uodate fixes my issue with Pulseaudio sending audio to the right audio device (my motherboard audio), but volume controls affect a different audio device (my USB DAC for headphones). Only workaround I have right now is to open Pulseaudio and click on another device before setting back to my motherboard audio.

@psygreg 9 дней назад

I already switched my audio to Pipewire on Mint 21, I had a bug that caused my audio to have random pops with Pulseaudio. Works just fine

@abunk8691 9 дней назад

@@psygreg Any tips how to switch to Pipewire?

@soko7awen 8 дней назад

Have you tried using S3Drive for Proton Drive support on Linux?

@GgGhost 9 дней назад

I thought Fedora already had opt-in telemetry :P Regardless, the implementation the propose doesn't seem problematic to me

@ezearis 5 дней назад

I don't mind turning on telemetry for that hardware and settings to help the development of a Linux Distro I use. The issue is when they hid it from you or when you can't turn it off!

@billgross3579 3 дня назад

Does Proton even have a Linux desktop syncing client on the roadmap for Proton Drive?? I just searched Proton's website last week and couldn't find anything mentioned. Like you, I'm anxiously waiting!! That's what's keeping me from going all in on the Proton ecosystem.

@Dinky-Ayulo 9 дней назад

Oh wow I am really early

@dexterman6361 9 дней назад

Proton seems to be dropping the ball with existing users. Still no way to edit external calendars so that I can drop google accounts. Still no way to sync contacts from android, and apparently only some fields in a contact are encrypted. Not sure why.

@RagnarinVa 9 дней назад

Proton is taking care of current customers - I can invite other people on other calendars and I can be added to external invites. Email and Drive works great - I wish they would just make Linux native applications.

@dexterman6361 9 дней назад

@@RagnarinVa Wait really? I can't edit external google calendars. Did they add this recently? True true I wish they made linux-native apps too.

@RagnarinVa 8 дней назад

@@dexterman6361 - If you are talking about bringing in google, proton, and outlook accounts into one client then no - they don't do that - but not sure that was the goal. These are services around the proton account suite which can interact with others. I only have Proton and iCloud email accounts outside of work. Proton is my main account (family, financial and personal business). Icloud for friends and amazon/online shopping.

@GajendraMahat 9 дней назад

man, first viewer 😍

@James2210 9 дней назад

I think the OpenSSH vulnerability had a fix out the week before it was publicly disclosed

@admonito 9 дней назад

Will you make a video about the NixOS drama?

@mirage809 9 дней назад

Fedora sounds like they're planning on doing telemetry right. Opt-in and done in such a way that profiling is essentially impossible. So ChromeOS Flex kicks the bucket right as my workplace does a tryout of it. Perfect timing. ChromeOS is not without its uses. That thing runs on a half-baked potato. All it really needs to do is run Chrome and open websites, with how hard Google push cloud services and ChromeOS does that perfectly, even when running on some pathetic low budget ARM CPU. It's interesting to see Mind and Cinnamon diverge more and more from the Gnome base they once forked from. Understandable however, the Gnome devs have one vision for the desktop and Cinnamon have their own. It's to be expected that they'd become incompatible. X86 emulation on ARM is making serious strides. A buddy of mine showed off that he got Fallout 4 booting on S24 Ultra. It's not playable, but it's still amazing to me. Give it time and perhaps ARM can dethrone X86 one day. Or at least Qualcomm and co can become competition for AMD and Intel in the CPU space. That'd shake things up a bit.

@HannuSKorvala 9 дней назад

39 seconds in!

@admonito 9 дней назад

Will you make a vid about the NixOS drama?

@TheLinuxEXP 9 дней назад

Didn’t see anything about it, must have missed that!

@UpFromTheShadows 8 дней назад

NixOS drama?

@MW-mn1el 9 дней назад

Missing linux desktop global market share is over 4% at all time high.

@henriquepicanco97 9 дней назад

So... When ChromeOS goes with Linux Android Kernel... They will drop updates for the old Chromebooks too?

@vincei4252 7 дней назад

"It's opt-in" ,,,,, for now.

@kevb8983 7 дней назад

Yeah, I'm going to trust a Chinese distro to not spy on me

@TheUAoB 6 дней назад

Why are you most more worried about that than your own Government spying on you?

@Spectrulight 5 дней назад

@@TheUAoBprobably because it's not my gouverment, it's china's.

@TheUAoB 5 дней назад

@@Spectrulight I'd think Chinese citizens should have more concern about their own Government spying on them, and likewise should you.

@Spectrulight 5 дней назад

@@TheUAoB probably because China has a law that makes it mandatory?

@TheUAoB 5 дней назад

@@Spectrulight Sorry, I see your point, I didn't realise China has a law mandating spying on you personally. That must make it pretty difficult to buy any consumer electronics! Or does it cover all Chinese exports?

@richard1311 7 дней назад

I had settled on fedora a few months ago and figured I'd stay with it...then the telemetry discussion happened. Opensuse now.

@Redwan777 9 дней назад

Forget games. When will x86 emulation on ARM CPU come for normal everyday linux programs?

@TheLinuxEXP 9 дней назад

It can run games and normal programs as well

@Gramini 8 дней назад

Games are just regular programs. The main difference is that performance is very important for games. Both Fex-Emu and Box{86,64} run fine for non-game programs.

@TheAyrrow 6 дней назад

oh and the openssh vulnerability is interesting because it doesn't affect openbsd.

@Malix_off 9 дней назад

I'm all in for telemetry when it's for debugging and user base analytics purposes

@aliancemd 8 дней назад

You can do telemetry without identifying people - telemetry does not necessarily mean “evil”. We did telemetry for a product and it was strictly to detect reasons for a crash - great effort was put to anonymize everything and maintain it that way.

@Slugbunny 6 дней назад

That's the trouble, isn't it. Bigger organisations especially just hoard data for sale, profit. It's a slippery slope that quickly goes one way in the current surveillance economy.

@jesperpersson465 9 дней назад

Elden Ring DLC has no issues on my end, but my PC is pretty specced out.

@JessicaFEREM 9 дней назад

I still don't trust deepin regardless of it's local or not.

@melski9205 8 дней назад

Of course not, one update, that you have a click accept to, or you wont be let in... and your local becomes cloud.

@NJ-wb1cz 8 дней назад

Yeah, my uncle also doesn't trust anything Chinese because he says they aren't trustworthy

@mrshimmy1999 7 дней назад

Trying to copy copilot

@bionicseaserpent 8 дней назад

waiting for the day i can chuck Plasma Mobile on my phone and be perfectly fine for another 5 years ontop of the android support. ARM laptops SHOULD end up helping linux phones by making ARM versions of apps more mandatory

@dexterman6361 9 дней назад

Wow, linux arm emulaiton is already miles ahead of windows sdk

@fintomoon 8 дней назад

honestly I don't think that ChromeOS transitioning to android stack necessarily means that the Flex version will be gone. first of all, current x86 Chromebooks will continue receiving updates until something like 2034, which means that even if the android base is incompatible with x86, they still will need to maintain something for x86. on top of that google has a lot of money and people and they own android, so I don't think that it would be a problem for them to expand android to run on normal x86 devices (especially since most new Chromebooks plus are x86). but again, it's all just a speculation

@repiv59 8 дней назад

I am going to give this a try as I could not find a better place to post / ask. I manage a small campground and marina and obviously we have need of computers and I-net connection. Yet as a small operation we really only need a good web browsing / email / office suite and some small programs we use uniquely. The problem I am having is that with the windows computers we have (only two) we are being pushed (forced almost) to update windows and microsoft accounts and all the bloat / ads that come with the current windows (11). Truth be told our needs are simple and we truly do not need all this junk being pushed on us, and I can not stand the microsoft account push, we have managed to still have local logon for now, but I worry that will be coming to an end in the near future. So the real crux of this post is what would you say about moving to a Linux distro and having a windows emulator to run some fairly old but simple window programs as needed. It seems Linux may finally be up to covering the basics of a small business like I have.

@hugoantunesartwithblender 8 дней назад

Im complely ok with optional telemetry

@stwenty5758 7 дней назад

"Google is abandoning..." So it's a day ending in Y, then? 🙄

@adamwarvergeben 6 дней назад

Did the Fedora team watch your enshittification video?

@vitorferreira5464 9 дней назад

I think that in the future the next ChromeOS will come with a processor like the Snapdragon X Elite or similar, and therefore they will change the base to Android

@UtahTaffer 7 дней назад

We need Linux Mint Arch edition

@pixl3ros3 8 дней назад

I'd rather like mint it's where I started my journey in Linux was with mint before moving over to KDE where I have just since been at home I mean I might move over to arch Linux with KDE at some point but as of right now considering KDE makes their own distribution called KDE neon that's just where I'm sitting at right now because honestly while mint is nice it looks very outdated visually it looks very very 2009 and well that's not necessarily a bad thing I can't get nearly the level of customization on cinnamon that I can with plasma

@PiiskaJesusFreak 6 дней назад

I've seen streamers have performance issues with Elden ring dlc, but none of those materialized on my steam deck.

@looneycrow7978 8 дней назад

When ai OS coming you think?.. or maybe CPU replacement with ai chip.

@raute2687 5 дней назад

I still don't understand what's wrong with Ubuntu's telemetry. It's the first thing you get asked after installation, it can be disabled right then and there and you even get to look at what would be the first report in plain text, which isn't collected until you tell it to do so.

@Mempler 9 дней назад

I would've used chromeos flex if it supported official chromeos stuff like android apps

@royborgen 9 дней назад

If you value your privacy, I would stay away from ChromeOS, with or without Android kernel.

@TechJolt3d 9 дней назад

Whats the difference between FEX and Box86/Box64?

@Gramini 8 дней назад

IIRC Fex is more focused on performance and the Boxes are more focused on correctness.

@TechJolt3d 8 дней назад

@@Gramini Okay thanks!

@fontende 7 дней назад

it's really strange see anything Openai related in chinese distro - during Openai officially blocked China by ip addresses, it's like promoting Facebook there which inaccessible

@Ghfvhvfg 9 дней назад

A personal kolwege Asstant direley needed who can relate?

@fontende 7 дней назад

by that collected data you can find who works with Ai or possible suspect making viruses (but can be just software developer)

@TheSuperTiger2011 9 дней назад

RIP chrome os (first btw)

@HermanIdzerda 9 дней назад

This is sad, I really like Chrome OS Flex. I do use it.

@jinekLESNIK День назад

What will happen to Fyde OS ?

@BarafuAlbino 9 дней назад

No news on how NixOS is dead?

@TheLinuxEXP 9 дней назад

I didn’t see anything about that, I’ll check on it!

@BarafuAlbino 9 дней назад

@@TheLinuxEXP Its board is filled with people who clearly can't be trusted. Thus, I point everyone to vids about it and recommend avoiding, regardless of its technical qualities.

@gitcat6671 9 дней назад

ChromeOS has much better touch support, not just in terms of drivers but in terms of general user experience. I have used FydeOS (fork of ChromeOS for desktop) on my Surface Go and while the performance was terrible, I was able to use it efficiently as a tablet, with stuff like floating keyboard, gesture navigation, and separate tablet mode. Linux has desktop and mobile UI covered but they are so far mutually exclusive; there are no good options for convertibles.

@Sh_Pe 9 дней назад

What about nixOS?

@StarlordStavanger 9 дней назад

As a Fedora Gnome user, I'd be okay with enabling this telemetry, I only speak for myself, but I'd be happy to help the devs in this case.

@themadoneplays7842 9 дней назад

Yeah I rather have the telemetry be opt in as I feel more in control over the OS and what is sent out. Personally, I do wish to provide such information like base system info in both windows and Linux to help bug reports.