I Tested Every Game I Own on an Intel Arc GPU 

That's crazy

That's kind of hilarious

It's a game from 2015, way before discrete Intel graphics was a thing. Sounds like they were trying to ban the old Intel iGPUs.

That is just stupid that games add that.

That is crazy! That kind of coding practically prevents anyone from entering discrete GPU market. "Sorry, if its not AMD or Nvidia then you are SOL". Yeah those two are our only true options for gamers but that may not be the case in the future. As we see here, Intel is really trying and if given the chance then it works really well and sometimes punching above its price range. No matter what GPU or iGPU is in the machine the game should at least try to run if the said graphics chip supports the correct DirectX version. If it runs poorly or crashes then so be it, either the drivers need improving or the gpu is just not enough.

in my case, since i dont get real devices, they rely on my experience to decide which range the performance was, and that experience took years

little secret here, real reviewers got any hardware months prior the product release date, ranging 3-6 months, maybe longer

so wiser not to tell them this that, they already done all those

I admire the quality of work done but a real scientist wouldn't have bothered testing a clusterfu*k from a company that is about to fail due to completely alienating the enterprise market with poor efficiency, frequent errors and silicon degradation. A company that is using a clean sheet design from 1995 to design their CPUs is gonna fail eventually. Finally caught up to them with 13th and 14th gen. Intel still thinks it is 2001 and they can wow people with nonsensical clockspeeds. Doesn't matter the architecture, 6GHz is purely for advertising and they've tuned your i9 for failure to meet those advertising targets. It isn't just the i9s. Everything in the range will have the same issue; it will just take longer for an i3 to fail.

It's called a job, lol.

Such a bummer about that game. It could have had a really damn cool campaign following up on the previous games. And a few months after release when they actually finiahed making it, it was honestly a really good game. And all the portal stuff could have been soooooo coooool if they had really fleshed it out in a more Master Chief Collection way. God especially if they could have allowed a lot more mix and match between eras. I played for a few months and was really liking it. Such a shame they botched it so badly. The concepts were all there. The execution just wasn't.

They didn't even test Crysis.

He’s not wrong lol.

I have 300 hours in BF 2042. It's still a fun game. 4kd gamer. People who suck at fps and don't have battle sense think the game is bad. 😂 I only play infantry too, no vehicles. I also have 2000 hours on BF V

@@pvtcmyers87 He's wrong, not the most played BF but 20K players xd Lazy excuse.

That's fun for me lol. If I got paid for testing games I would test 1000+ games without breaking a sweat

@@Dionyzos trust me you won't enjoy it lol. my job is literally my hobby, but after years of doing the same thing, I'm sick of it

@@notchipotle That's one of the reason I purposedly choose the job that I hate so that I can enjoy my hobby in my free time (turned out that's also a bad idea, it's soul crushing waking up to do something you hate everyday, and you are likely to suck at it as well)

I would advocate to find a balance, but the sheer variety of jobs makes finding that difficult. So, as long as you're satisfied before you go to bed, then I'm proud of you. ❤

For us it was a worthy waste of money and time but our 6 year old will be using his 6750xt for the foreseeable future due this gpu demanding settings to be changed as often as he flips game choice. A new warning label is in need, not for mid gamers or kids

And they don't take up every PCIe slot on your motherboard.

@@nickdibart I mean, neither does the 6650xt it was being compared against.

Hoping battlemage has a similar clean 2 slot look too.

The Intel plastic ones. ASRock Challenger has a better cooler

The rgb ties in nicely with everything.

same here, I don't even get why tim had trouble with l4d2 and sim city 4 considering i play both of those occasionally without issues

I also played Sim City 4 on an a750 and a380 with no issues

lol @ "it just works" ...nice 🤣

@@boenkstah He uses the latest driver which sometimes fix problem but also creates another problem, this happens on both Nvidia and AMD GPU too sometimes

Can't say "it just works" like my nvidia or amd gpus 😅 When I got my gpu this Tuesday I had to reinstall the WHQL driver three times in order to get the Arc Panel! 😂 Installed the latest driver yesterday that froze my system. Had to enter safe mode and remove the drivers.. I still have HDR issues when booting up, the display is all gray and I need to turn off/on HDR several times till it finally works 🫠 Oh and also E-Arc sound drops when playing the first thing with audio, solution is to mute - unmute after 5-10 seconds. Besides all this GPU acceleration doesn't work in browsers or launchers. The screen will flicker between picture - black screen - picture etc till I pause the content and disable gpu-acceleration. This is just three days of ownership.. I would NOT recommend Arc to anyone that doesn't have patience and can do basic troubleshooting. Edit: Arc 770

yep had the same on my 3070 especially in Toussaint

Same on 4090 / 7900 XTX

I don’t get that at all on my 5700xt or 7900xt… I wonder why. I have settings maxed out for 1440p and I don’t think I have anything special installed or changed in the settings

Can confirm I had that issue on my RTX 3070 too on the next gen update

Change your AA settings generally off lowest setting. See if it helps.

Starfield had a broken DX12 implimentation, it ran best on AMD because the Radeon driver team literally had months of privelleged access to bulwark their drivers against the Bethesda sloppy code. Literally Glitched API by the billions per minute, its a testament to Nvidia driver stack that it was pre-emptively hardened enough against such chicanery to somewhat run the games on launch without having sponser access. ARC drivers, being so young; didnt stand a chance.

The only reason why youtube reviewers are promoting ARC like this though is because they want to appeal to the viewers who aren't happy with the dominance by NVIDIA and high prices with AMD who isn't competitive anymore though. Otherwise if ARC was reviewed like a NVIDIA card, they would say its unacceptable that a GPU isn't able to properly play certain games especially new ones as that makes the GPU unreliable for basically what you're actually be using it for...current games. ARC has less than 1% marketshare even after every major tech youtube channel promoted it and begged their viewers to buy it. What does it mean?

Yeah, this was pretty eye opening to me. I’ve become so caught up in top tier NVIDIA cards over the years, seeing how many games the 770 can run at 60FPS good settings is a good grounding

Going to ignore the fact that Intel has been making GPU drivers longer than AMD? They know how GPUs work; this is just a dedicated GPU but most of these issues have been in their iGPU drivers for over a decade, hence why many people who want emulator mini-PCs go with AMD.

But Intel is better at Emulation though. ​@@zxZethxz

@@zxZethxz I don't understand why people are so wiling to just excuse this for intel, they aren't some newbie to the computer game. Most of the newer demanding games could barely run or it wasn't playable, and it's only getting worse for new releases. That's ridiculously concerning for intel.

@zxZethxz they aren't newbies for integrated graphics- but discreet GPU's are a different ball game. That's why I give them props for this. Obviously they've had years with integrated and cpus

Pure copium. You shouldn't need a game compatibility list for a GPU in 2024.

​@@Lurch-Bot you will need it because Intel arc is new compared to Nvidia and amd

If it releases with a similar stability and compatibility as current arc driver.. it would certainly be a success as things will get better with time. Fingers crossed that Intel can compete.

They have dropped high-end, so it's all down to pricing low-end. Personally not holding my breath. Finally picked up an A770 open box for $150. At that price it's OK. Not the $250+ they were going for. 16GB was $300.

@@farmeunit Intel graphics cards are alright as long as you know that it's going to work well with the games that you want to play, and if you feel comfortable with maybe having to deal with some issues in the future which might require a bit of tinkering to fix. For someone who is less tech savvy and who doesn't want to mess around, AMD or Nvidia will be a better choice for sure. Some people will tell you that Nvidia is better than AMD for driver support and compatibility, but it's not like Nvidia never has issues, and there's a good chance that you can get a better value from AMD in your price range. Any issues that you do get with AMD (or Nvidia) are likely to be extremely minor compared to the type of issues that people are still getting with Intel cards.

@@syncmonism I have all makes and models. Just pointing out that the value proposition isn't that great compared to others. I had a 7800XT in that box but it's running Plex so thought I would give it a shot since I do game on it when my daughter is on mine for some reason or girlfriend is teaching a class. It's just not been that great, I my opinion. I do think people need budget options but honestly, my 5700XT performed better in the games I have played on the card. Which is equivalent to a 6600/XT.

Battlemage needs good drivers at launch. We'll see if Intel can deliver.

We need more Steves Burke in this industry.

They should work on making stable CPUs instead of

@@Dave102693 big oof 😅

They're gonna disappoint like their cpus 😊

💯👍👏​@@ree6487

@@ree6487 Some of the best CPUs for gaming on a budget are from Intel like the i5 12400f and the i5 12600kf, guess they're doing the same strategy for their GPUs too

It seems like they need to improve on pricing, which is the big elephant in the room.

Same bro same. I just used the intel command center to update the drivers due to the arc control being broken.

I have also been happy with A770 at 1440 paired with a 7600. Great budget build to get to modern hardware and runs everything I want it to.

Starfield is good actually

OMG I tought this bug happened more on the mobile ARCs. I HATE I IT

@@bryanwages3518 yeah same, but I DDU it every now and then, seems to work for an update or so then reverts uselessness. Not a deal breaker but annoying to say the least.

Tim the enchanter.

ok

Yeah, sure. Makes total sense. All this says is devs don't know how to engineer games and intel doesn't know how to engineer gaming GPUs.

@@Lurch-Bot All this says that you don't know how hardware and drivers development works

Will have to give this a try, current solution is to run game in Vulkan, but performace can go from 300fps to 0 seemingly at random, I think due to shader caching

Had a similar issue with Beam NG Drive with the AFMF2 preview driver. Black sand in any map that used the sand material. Restarting the game fixed the issue though, which is strange.

Not so impressive when you consider they farmed it out to a few dozen unpaid 'interns'. Literal slavery, just like any job in this industry. Anyone with a sense of ethics has stopped buying games in 2024. The slaves are gonna have to decide whether they prefer income or freedom. Anyone with any sense would be re-training for a career as a medical assistant and that isn't saying much.

I though I am the only ones who barely play new games, newest games I often played is released on 2019 and it is indie title

Coincidence 😅 Out of millions of people watching, coincidences like this are bound to happen from time to time. 🤷‍♂

@@Chasm9 Not really, google tracks your views for making recommendations.

@@Chasm9 I think it's far more likely that Steve was looking into his crystal ram stick and predicting your needs

He is always watching

@@magnusnilsson9792 google not telling people to upload a specific video because someone is watching an old video.

I still doubt they were all on steam, though. For example, Far Cry 2 and Far Cry 3 are a whole new battle to get working. And for me, it was literally impossible on steam to play FC3. And FC2 needed HEAVY 3rd party patching so it worked properly. Can't imagine a universe where he didn't have ANY issues with those games on Steam. But that's the game's/Ubisoft's problem, not the card, just to be clear.

And make him use the 5800X3D as the CPU for the test bench!

@@RavenZahadoom Duh! Of course...

Stop it before he sees this, you're going to break Steve and then we will only have one left.

@@deviouslaw Well, we can't have cloning, so we need to develop a brainwashing program to create more Steves. For the greater good.

1 game tested: fortnite In all seriousness, with Steve pretty much only plays competitive multiplayer games (or even shooters?), so his list would probably be comparatively tiny

With every driver update there a bigger performance gap to AMD CPU. ARC is made to pair with high end INTEL CPU's. And yet the test was with AMD CPU.

Considering I wrote a macro in '97 to convert 100, 000 text files to *.doc format while I went to lunch, I bet they did the same here. Let AI do the testing and to hell with the fact it isn't yet ready for primetime.

?? DG2 is alchemist

Integrated Vs Dedicated graphics are entirely different beasts. There was a graphics developer on MLID's podcast last year who summed up the biggest difference in driver goals pretty clearly: with dedicated graphics, you're looking to offload as much as possible to the GPU, because it's probably not going to reach its limit even in demanding games; with integrated graphics, you're looking to only send the tasks that absolutely have to be GPU to the hardware, because it's so weak that any amount of workload is going to be coming up to hardware limits very quickly. AMD Strix rebalances this problem in a big way, with the most powerful Strix Halo chips aiming for graphics performance equivalent to a 4070, so the above probably comes with a caveat of "only applies to driver development up to maybe 2025"

Yeah... and now the 6650 is cheaper than A770...

The driver's being "decent" for such a new product line is actually incredible. Shout out to the Intel engineers busting their asses trying to catch up to Nvidia's and AMD's two decade headstart.

@@Razzbow A770 has 16GB of VRAM though, if you want a better price comparison, use the A750, which is 97% of the performance of the A770, just with half the VRAM.

DXVK is actually what the Intel driver largely based on for DX11 and below. A couple years ago they suddenly had a massive performance boost from a driver update and that was actually because they ditched their in-house driver and just switched to DXVK (without giving credit)

I think the GTA4 issues likely would have been solved by using DXVK here.

@@mar2ck_ Nothing new there big companies not giving credit to the open source software they heavily rely on, let alone funding or dev time.

@@mar2ck_ Then it's doing a bad job with DXVK wrapper if using DXVK manually give better performance and fixes games that normally don't run like Arkham Knight.

DXVK fixes almost all issues with GTA4, runs better than it has ever done on any hardware using DX. So if they have DXVK in the driver they don't know how to use it properly.

Steve's version: Testing all Ampere, Ada, Blackwell, RDNA2, 3 and 4 cards in 500 games.

​@@nipa5961And there will still be that one commenter saying, "could you test [game]?"

Its not locked to re-bar systems only, and A LOT of that older hardware can receive re-bar just with bios update.

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Isn't it something close to 30% performance lost* without reBAR. I'm talking at the time a H81 board running a 2014 haswell CPU and PCIE 2.0. I work in IT and try to keep stuff out of land fills. :) It was perfectly suitable with a GTX 1060 and kept playing the games I wanted at 60fps until around 2022. Monster hunter, Elden Ring,etc. I've finally upgraded the board but picked up a used RTX 3060 12GB for cheap.

@@SinisterPuppy Nowhere near as much hit JUST from re-bar. It would be like 80-85% without rebar, but nowhere near 30, there must be some other funny buisness going on.

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 I forgot a word. It's 30% perf lost with rebar off. There's a pretty good techpowerup article on it. Only reason I know is I really wanted to give Arc a try.

@@SinisterPuppy Makes more sense, but 30% loss still seems too much, could it be one of older articles?

It's funny when you realize the ARC dropped when the 30-series was the current lineup, and the A770 16gb had more VRAM than every single GPU from NVIDIA other than the 3090/3090 Ti. In a $350 card.

@@rustler08 Not sure what games require more than 8GB, but what I play doesn't. It's just nice to know the VRAM is there if I ever have the need for it. I'll be in line for the next ARC card.

@@Raintiger88 At 4K native, there's quite a few games that would like more than 8GB VRAM. One of my main games (Assetto Corsa) is one of them. It still runs great on my 4060 Ti though, and the Arc A770 LE performs only slightly less in it. Both are great cards for the game.

@@HazewinDog Ah, that explains why I've not noticed anything using is. I pretty much play at 1440p

Interesting, I wonder if the game keeps swapping assets from VRAM out and back in, hitting the 3D-VCache if you have it, and falling back to system RAM otherwise (because the CPU's cache isn't big enough). Maybe Nvidia's drivers prevent this somehow.

Sound like CPU limited

Horizon forbidden west at launch was a complete mess tho, they patched it after a few days but at first it was giving my friend's 3090ti something like 90-95°

Intel GPUs have the highest CPU overhead and can be quite taxing for older CPU

I'd like to see a driver overhead comparrison between Nvidia, Intel and AMD, because many games can be brute forced on ARC with a powerful CPU.

I'm ten hours into Black Mesa, no graphical issues but occasional crashes. A770, GE-Proton8.

@@blipblap614 Interesting. I haven't had crashes but the game is missing some textures which would leave a black base. One of the missing textures being the scientists eye's. So they look like they have black voids while talking to you. The flashlight not working properly for me annoyed me enough to stop playing. It was only lighting up objects and npc's. It wouldn't light up hallways and surroundings.

You need to change the command line options on Black Mesa. Add "-force_vendor_id 0x10DE -force_device_id 0x1180 -dxlevel 95", launch the game, then exit the game. Then remove the "-dxlevel 95" line.

You might be willing to live with it but that's objectively an 'unplayable' result. Both Nvidia and AMD have made major architectural changes over the past couple of decades but they don't have that issue. The problems with ARC are hard coded. Compromises to the memory subsystem make compatibility with older games a dicey affair. It is basically a DX12 only GPU without patching. Battlemage won't have this issue but intel has already screwed the pooch. In the midst of an AI boom, nobody is thinking about Battlemage for datacenters. And few gamers are willing to take chances with an $800 purchase.

@@Lurch-Bot I said I was willing to deal with a couple of textures missing. Because they didn't prevent the game from working. What made the game unplayable for me was the one and only light source you have to help you get through dark spots in the game wasn't working as a light source. It only showed that it was working when you were looking at random static objects and npc's. It wasn't casting light onto walls nor was it illumnating dark hallways. That's what made it unplayable for me. I also never bought my ARC card as a full on replacement to my 5700XT. I wanted to play around with something different for a while so I bought an ARC card to mess about with. Since I've been wanting to play Black Mesa for a while I just switched back to my 5700XT. I also highly doubt Battlemage is going to be $800. If it were Intel is going to have a very hard time trying to sell them. They're in no position to pull an Nvidia and charge big money for low-tier garbage.

IDK about Tim but Todd literally made the game he wanted in grade school. Elon Musk's cybertruck is just something he drew in kindergarten. The most wealthy people on the planet are just children who never grew up.

First and last for them when it comes to desktop, unfortunately.

​@@beachslap7359 Says who? I looked it up and all I found were rumors. Battlemage should be releasing in a couple of months still.

@@beachslap7359 What? Battlemage is quite close to a desktop release.

@@Hyperus board partners haven't even been briefed on the specs yet, so I doubt that.

@@Hyperus”quite close” 🤦‍♀️

Most games they will have already tested and even optimized for. It's older titles where the many game crashes and crazy rendering artifacts really kick in... (DX7/8 and earlier) and it is obscure titles where the terrible performance really kicks in...

I never though xmp would cause game crash,

And use INTEL CPU to gain performance as there is widening gap.

Just the fact it takes that much a performance hit without reBAR is why ARC is already a failure and Battlemage won't save 'em. Nobody is planning to buy Battlemage for AI. They're in the midst of a GPU boom with a brand they've given a black eye by jumping the gun. The A310 is a GPU for literally nobody. The people who would want a GPU of that class for gaming won't buy it because their platform doesn't support reBAR. Better off buying a GTX 980 than an A770. Or, for that matter, an RX6600 which isn't brought to its knees by running without reBAR on PCIe 3.0. The fact you can get it with 16GB VRAM is just a pointless waste of VRAM. They want it to look like it will be a solid 1440p GPU moving forward but it really won't. Sort of like having 16GB on a 7600XT but even more sad, pathetic and pointless. Intel is a budget GPU manufacturer with a product that is a dog that won't hunt. Not with the systems the people in that market range acrtually have. ARC is a knee-jerk reaction to the temporary shortage that is already long past. With an AI boom brewing, intel has an advantage over the rest in that, nobody wants their GPUs for AI. So they might stick around for budget gaming. But then they need to rethink their Battlemage launch. They can't go toe to toe with the best gaming GPUs. They need to focus on being an even cheaper alternative to AMD. AMD is actually who is going to win the AI boom because Nvidia is cocky and to obsessed with per unit performance to realize that AMD is going to win on efficiency, just like they were the best performers in the last mining boom. I literally sold a 3080 to buy a pair of 5700XTs, got the same hashrate and only burned 80% of the power. Similarly, data centers don't care at all about per unit performance, only overall efficiency and reliability, which is where current AMD products shine. While board repair experts are saying that 50% of 4090s will fail, I can't find anything like that with AMD. Their GPUs are solid performers. Also, AMD didn't need special hardware to do RT or anything like that which makes Nvidia second best. They can't do RT or AI without spending billions of dollars on hardware development. And CP 2077 is the one and only game where Nvidia has an RT advantage and that is solely because CDPR is a whore for Nvidia. Bought off to make Cyberpunk a 40 series showcase. They artificially tanked performance even on prior gen Nvidia GPUs. Psycho RT still looks the same but will no longer run satisfactorily on an RTX2070 Super, as it once did. Also, they didn't fix Cyberpunk. They made it worse. Pandering to a bunch of spoiled children is not a comeback story. They deleted so much content just because they couldn't fix their crappy game engine. I have never seen a worse Keanu Reeves performance and, in time, I bet he'll be suing CDPR for ruining what little that was left of his career. He sold out so his crappy Arch motorcycles could get some advertising. John Stamos would have been a better Silverhand and would have contributed some real music to the project, rather than being a brain dead heroin addict just trying to advertise his pretentious motorcycles.I was actually somewhat intrigued when Reeves was on Leno's car show 4 or 5 years ago but the whole thing with CP2077 has made me see those bikes for what they really are - a joke.

@@Lurch-Bot Dude A770 does better job on 4k than 4070ti. You have no clue about the INTEL architecture or REBAR. REBAR equals using 2 silicon's instead of 1. What you see as FPS is only half and no waiting clean FPS where all are good. And yes as soon as the Battlemage launches I'll be on the long queue to get it with those that understands the performance and architecture.

@@paulboyce8537 In the games I tested, my A770 LE performs either on par or slightly worse (depending on the game) than my 4060 Ti. That's with a 5800X3D.

@@HazewinDog With INTEL CPU you get better results. But that's not all. AMD/Nvidia are standalone cards where CPU matters very little. 1 silicone. INTEL instead is different architecture where it splits the tasks via REBAR. 2 silicone's. You have "two engines" but you only see the performance of one. There is no waiting and all the FPS matters. AMD/Nvidia there is lot of queuing where half the FPS is wasted. If you compare FPS alone you don't see the performance from the ARC. 4k I find if there is 40FPS from the ARC it is very playable. 4070ti for example 120FPS can stutter and not very good experience. Further proof is RT. A770 you can often use RT with mid to high settings on 4k. You can't say the same for the competition even if you double the "FPS". Two different architectures and we test using same tests that worked when there was only AMD/Nvidia with similar architectures.

a few minutes at least

I want to know how much room the installed games took up (if he says this later in the video I'm sorry for jumping the shark)

At least 3

Probably 2 full weeks of work, 80+ hours

To be fair an A770 can be had for $220-240 on sale.

A lot of the teething issues will be ironed out with battle mage

Hello, RX 6700 XT user here. No Man's Sky stutters like hell when entering/exiting any planets, stations or freighters. Very, very long loading times are an issue especially after driver updates, along with massive shader compilation stutters that can pause the game for ~200ms at the worst case. I use an R5 3600, so that might be an issue, but the game runs on Switch just fine, it should be able to run fine on R5 3600 as well.

Don't forget about snapdragon they might enter the dgpu space

Was going to make the same point. I get _why_ it's done, but I hate it because not only does it shift blame from the game dev to that IHV, but shipping these driver workarounds cost time, money and in many cases probably performance too, PLUS the underlying issue is less likely to get fixed.

Okay, but that's kind of the point of drivers, isn't it? Why do you think Nvidia releases constant driver updates with what they call 'game-ready drivers'?

@@HazewinDog No, the purpose of drivers is not to work around application bugs.

@@cacheman game problem and game bug aren't the same thing to me

I remember having vram issues on gta4 which make the game look way worse than it supposed to be on a freaking pc with Nvidia gpu

just don't make it a monopoly lol... we're already nearly there

That's even better, if it also works with non-common games.

If you are willing to buy used, you can get way better offers for that money if you look around. One example that comes to mind is the 5700xt. EDIT: For the same money you also find Titan XP's and 1080ti's, whilst both older, even faster than the 5700xt depending on the game, plus they offer more Vram.

TBF i bought a 2070 for 200€ which runs anything i want with no problem at 1440p. DLSS works wonders at this resolution

Yeah sounds like a good upgrade. I used an a750 for about two months and I has a partially worst experience than with AMD (regarding drivers). So all things considered I was quite happy with it

but does your system support rebar?

As long as your motherboard will do resizable bar, go for it!

i think people just want more choice in what graphic card they want..., AMD and nVidia have a duopoly.., wich is bad for the consumer...

@@SenZjo some people really do think that since "radeon left high end, then intel will come to compete" ofc choice is great, but i doubt Intel will be competive before Druid, and then first signs of drivers overhead should come into play, at this point those drivers are made for arc and arc alone

There is no need to worry too much about how much silicon Intel is using. That is their problem. We should be concerned with price to performance. And I guess to a lesser extent, power

@@deviouslaw my point is under utilization, if you compare those 3 on tech power up, arc dominates in Shading Units, TMUs, ROPs, Execution units, even L2 cache, but there is nothing about L3 so maybe that compensates... on those specs alone, this GPU should be comparable to 7900GRE or 4070TI or so

Anecdotally, I have tested my Arc A770 with shaders from ShaderToy, which if your not familiar, have a lot of wonderful graphical effects that don't normally render using geometry. Specifically, shaders in ShaderToy lean heavily on the compute side of the GPU, not on the rasterization or texture mapping. In those benchmarks, my A770 smokes even the RTX 4060 between 60 and 100%. So what I'm saying is the silicon is definitely there, but I think standard gaming with rasterization struggles to achieve high GPU occupancy. I definitely think there is more runway for future Intel GPU's and drivers to compete with AMD and even NVIDIA, but it will take time for sure.

Tim roasting 2042 harder than a 14900k roasts an air cooler

To be honest, Intel launch was BAD ... Too expensive at release, horrible drivers, way too much power draw etc ... Not buying AMD, well, different matter given how AMDs prices tend to be way too close to Nvidia prices. Sorry, but 50 bucks is not going to cut it for most people. And as somebody that owned a 6600 XT, 6700XT, 6800 (still running it, undervolt,

There's nothing contradictory or hypocritical about that. Nvidia has a solid track record and strong marketing. People are going to buy what seems best for their use case or what is safest, and that makes perfect sense. Trying to promote competition by purchasing an inferior or unproven product is dubious at best and often self-defeating. And the tiny minority of informed consumers can't fix market breakdowns by voting with their wallets, that's the whole problem.