Feeling out the Zenith 701

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I'm starting to get fairly comfortable in the new plane now. I've still got a ways to go but so fat I'm quite happy with the way it handles.
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Here's the link to the paintjob for the CH 701 in Microsoft Flight Sim:
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And here's the link to the plane itself that you'll need to use the above paintjob:
(it's also available right in the game through the Marketplace)
simworksstudios.com/zenith-70...
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Aircraft: Zenith CH 701 STOL
Engine: Jabiru 2200A (85hp)
Cruise speed: 75 mph
Fuel Capacity: 20 gallons
Range: 375 miles
Payload: 500 lbs
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@RC-Flight Год назад

Nice video,I used to work for this company back in the early 1980s when they were using the company name Zenair. Worked for Chris and Gerry.

@mmatt Год назад

Nice! That's pretty cool. :-)

@jimseals8659 Год назад

Around 2002, a friend built a 701 and used a Geo Metro 3 cyl engine with a belt re-drive. It flew very well. You should have a great airplane!

@curtis4u2 Год назад

Love this plane, keep the zenith vids coming.

@lindsaylefaivre537 Год назад

Looks like your having a blast Matt

@mindfulmunchkin1215 Год назад

Good job Matt you were pushing it a bit lol, 701 is awesome, I have the plans here for a 750 STOL - hopefully getting started with it this year.

@jimsandoval7633 Год назад

Very good numbers, all of them, climb, stall. The 701 is an excellent airplane and will enjoy it. I am glad you upgraded because now I can relate better what you fly with my Kitfox.

@mmatt Год назад

It needs more climb in my opinion... lol Kitfoxes are fun too!

@lillyanneserrelio2187 Год назад

Love the view from the port wing mounted camera. Hello from Miami 🌞

@mmatt Год назад

Please send some of that heat up this way! I like that view too but I'm not happy with the mount so I'm still experimenting with that camera's location. I'll try to keep a similar angle though. :-)

@mainecooncharlie3409 Год назад

Awesome Saturday morning video Matt! Beautiful Zenith. Why not toss a strip of cheap weather seal on that door gap until the new one arrives? Don't want to see you with a cold hand, now. Great style of videos; clear concise and to the point while being entertaining. Keep it up and safe flying!

@deerranch6560 5 месяцев назад

Great video, thanks for sharing.

@RobMcIntosh-ln2ig Месяц назад

Hi Matt great videos a solution that has worked for me about the variable temperatures and 912 carb jetting I have a cold engine like yours and I use the carb heat valve said that directly to the both carbs with one air filter just above the exhaust where there is lots of heat now I can parsley or all the way open carb heat to bring engine incoming are higher temperature solve that jetting problem from the three seasons and I always having to adjust carb settings note that I do have the intake rotax manifold which does shut off the outside air intake at the same time it opens the carb Heat so depending on how low the temperatures are I feed warm air through that system it's also filtered the engine that runs smooth smooth smooth summer temperatures I do not use warm air only fall and winter temperatures I'm from Ontario radical temperatures also

@MrSmokehouse6 Год назад

glad to see you back, say hi to Vicky too

@TheMainePilot Год назад

So Awesome man!! But your struts are different colors!!😂 Love that airplane!

@treylem3 Год назад

mmatt, that's the very plane I want. Congratulations, brother

@vincentzopel2427 Год назад

Good instruction film…was easy to understand and follow thru…your a near perfect pilot….Thanks….Vince

@degar1996 Год назад

Love the new plane. The 701 is so much fun. I moved from the Challenger to a 701 over the past couple of years. I started flying cruise at 70mph as was my normal in the CHII but am finding that 80-85 makes the 701 fly so much smoother and solid in the air. You asked about camera angles. I run one on the outboard of my right strut so anyone with me can see themselves on any videos I do. I make sure this one also gives a good front view so you can see where I'm going. The second is behind my head in mid cockpit. I like this because lots of people like to see the instruments and out the window. Still experimenting here as I think I'm going to move it closer to the front behind my head this year. I have a new camera and remote screen which I bought to use during last year's Oshkosh trip but never did use it. I think I'm going to place it under the fuselage toward the tail to get a good view of what's directly in front and below. Should be interesting. The one angle which I really want to get straightened away this year is looking back from the dash to capture audio and video during conversations. Thinking about using my phone for that but not sure yet. My cameras don't have audio in's. Fly safe,

@mmatt Год назад

What engine do you have in yours?

@degar1996 Год назад

@@mmatt I have the Rotax 912 (80hp). Has more than enough power I find .

@MRJSWORKSHOP Год назад

Nice job on the video👍🏻🤠

@tedheath9018 Год назад

Where is Vicky?

@trdasset Год назад

In paramotoring, we use a "chase cam" -- provides a great fluidic viewpoint.

@mmatt Год назад

I have one actually. Just never set it up yet. Maybe this summer.

@Tryagain205 Год назад

A Camera placed on top of the tail somehow so that we can see the top of the wings and the turtle deck would be great as I really like the way the wing roots meet the cabin and that would give a fantastic point of view as well. I really like the view you have from the pilots perspective and the wing camera showing the landing gear and the cabin. A camera showing the tail feathers during take-off and landing would be cool because no one ever shows what the rudder is doing and it would be good to know how much rudder is required for critical manoeuvres. I'm not a pilot but I think you have inspired me to consider Ultralight aviation, so I thank you for your fantastic videos.

@mmatt Год назад

I've been thinking about a cam on top of the rudder. It looks like it'd be very easy to mount one there. Once I start running the 360 cam again, we can totally have a look at the tail feathers for a few landings. Great suggestions. :-)

@alkempton1512 Год назад

Perfect for the gravel bars

@Tryagain205 Год назад

Would like to see you try a camera on top of the fuselage aft of the wing roots. The way the wing roots are shaped is my favourite part of your aircraft. Seeing the view of the landscape with the wing roots on the bottom of the screen taking in the banking when you turn would be fantastic! I like the placement of the camera on the wing showing the landing gear that you have. Thanks for your videos!

@mmatt Год назад

An upcoming video will feature a camera on top of the rudder looking forward. I think you'll like it. :-)

@Tryagain205 Год назад

@@mmatt Awesome!

@DIYPackraft Год назад

I love it! I’d like to see more videos like this one where you’re feeling it out, solo and at gross weight :)

@mmatt Год назад

I can't find anyone foolish enough to put me at gross weight for the same maneuvers! lol!

@DIYPackraft Год назад

@@mmatt Haha!

@lukescott4271 Год назад

@@mmatt I’ll come!!!

@mmatt Год назад

@@lukescott4271 Come on then! :-)

@aciagriculturalconstructio2264 6 месяцев назад

Amazing planes. I fly the 801. Only complaint I have with zenith is the nose gear is not sufficient for off field operations. Started getting distorted metal on the firewall so I retrofitted a nose strut from a Cessna 172 and it was a game changer for my plane.

@mmatt 6 месяцев назад

That might be an 801 issue. The only nose gear issues I've found online have been bent axles from hard landings and broken bungee cords. As far as I can tell, as long as you operate a 701 at least somewhat competently, the nosegear will hold up just fine. I run 21" bushtires at 8 psi all the way around so that'll help absorb a lot of the punishment and I have the Viking "steel bungee" for my nosegear so I don't have to worry about broken bungee cords. lol

@julianbeaulieu6240 Год назад

Cool plane Matt, I have a 701 that I put a Yamaha engine in it and it’s awesome, I Olso upgraded mine with a new design flaperon handle from zenith and would highly recommend doing it for anyone with a 701

@mmatt Год назад

Can you share more about the advantages of the new flaperon handle?

@julianbeaulieu4821 Год назад

My old system or stock flaperon handle kept popping out when I used the flaps( not that you need flaps anyway) with the upgraded flaperon for one is easier to engage and never pops out. Sure the plane takes off and lands short with no flaps but it’s nice to be able to use them properly. I didn’t use my flaperons much before because I was afraid they would pop out at the wrong time

@mmatt Год назад

@@julianbeaulieu4821 This plane has a bungee holding the flap handle down, presumable so it doesn't pop out as it hasn't yet. Do you find having the different settings helps at all or do you just go full on or full off?

@julianbeaulieu6240 Год назад

I seen your bungee and thought that was a good idea, but this new handle make it easier to put your flaps on at almost any speed and locks in and yes I use all settings depending on what I think I need. Makes the floperons more usefull in my opinion

@sebdewhurst7276 3 месяца назад

I can only get my 701 to stall at about 50% power. Power-off stalls seem to be near impossible - not enough airflow over the tail so even with stick full back, it just mushes along with full flaperon response. Conversely, at full power, the nose just goes up and up, the ASI drops to zero, while maintaining altitude.

@mmatt 3 месяца назад

Do you have VGs installed under your elevator? They give you more "up" authority in slow flight with the stick all the way back.

@sebdewhurst7276 3 месяца назад

Yes, I do have VGs on the underside of the elevator. They definitely help, and improved the elevator authority. It IS possible to invoke a stall if you pull back suddenly, but if just progressively bringing the nose up slowly, the airspeed drops so low that I just can’t keep the nose up. I’m sure CH designed it this way to make it safe to fly at very low STOL speeds. It’s a super plane, responsive, safe, easy to maintain.

@GeorgeStar Год назад

A gauge cam, would be interesting to see instruments while you're maneuvering.

@mmatt Год назад

I'm still trying to find a good spot to mount a camera but that's the plan.

@purpleswan29 Год назад

What's the max distance on a full tank. Great videos Scotland here 😊

@doncatchpole 4 месяца назад

Good show.

@mmatt 4 месяца назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@danlibby8366 Год назад

Can you show us around the cockpit and talk about stuff? Tankage? Pumps? Floor pedals? Do you like the center stick (so far)? Is this still an ultralight in CA?

@mmatt Год назад

I have a full walk around video planned once it gets warmer. There are more details about the plane listed in the video description. I do like the centerstick and yes, it's a UL in Canada.

@MrTreetall100 Год назад

Love your channel. I am wanting to build the Ch750 Super Duty in the future. Is your 701 classified as an ultralight.? Did you need transition training? How did that work with insurance or was it a non event? Thanks Keep it up. Patrick from Ottawa

@mmatt Год назад

I'd love to have a 750. Maybe with a 915is...? :-) My 701 is registered as an ultralight so there was no issue with insurance. It didn't even raise my premium. lol

@justinmckinney4650 Год назад

Hopefully you can make the zenith homecoming this year for there fly in

@Halli50 Год назад

I've never flown this configuration of the 701, but as far as I can tell, the 701 simply does not have the elevator power to properly stall unless you carry a LOT of power. In this part of the flight envelope the rudder becomes the most important flight control to keep the wings level in case a wing drops. Use only modest aileron inputs, the rudder becomes the primary control.

@mmatt Год назад

The elevator on this plane has been fitted with VGs which may help some, and yes, rudder is always the primary control in a stall situation. The trouble with this rudder is that it's very stiff compared to the ailerons which makes the urge to use them over the rudder very tempting. lol Real world though, if you find yourself in this situation, you've messed something up real bad and have missed a lot of warning signs! Hahaha!

@Halli50 Год назад

@@mmatt, while this thick wing with VGs or Slats will go to ridiculous AoA before stalling, too much elevator power can be outright dangerous (unless you are doing aerobatics). One can see that most of the rudder surface is behind the hinge line, which explains why it is heavy. Most big-wing, slow flight aircraft in this category have unusual control coordination; very effective yaw/pitch control and lumbering roll control! It is, however, easy to get used to.

@mmatt Год назад

@@Halli50 From what I've read, it's actually the pressure exerted down on the nosewheel from the bungee suspension that gives it its unusually heavy rudder (although the hinge position probably also plays a role). I have plans to install the "Viking steel bungee" mod that reportedly lightens it up considerably.

@shadowban481 Год назад

Hi, I remember years back from the Zenair newsletter that two different builders did some mods to alleviate the heavy rudder pedals. One did a ball bearing install in the strut horns and smoothen the V shaped strut stop, the other did a more complex spring and cable isolator so that the nose steering will be separated from rudder input in flight and I remember that he copied the design from old certified aircraft, sorry I can't be more specific.

@mmatt Год назад

@@shadowban481 There's also the Viking Steel Bungee that we're going to experiment with. It promises to lighten the rudder as well as make the nosewheel suspension a bit more robust without the need for bungee cord.

@bradleywagemaker5391 Год назад

Hey Matt, great video. Question: did you determine stall speed to be where you started losing altitude or when the nose dropped?

@mmatt Год назад

I don't think I lost any altitude until the nose dropped but I might have, I was mostly looking outside. Lol

@jimchuk8511 10 месяцев назад

Enjoyed the video Matt, I know you took the Jabiru out, but even so, I'll say this. I've been flying a Jabiru 80 HP in my Avid Flyer for about 600 hrs, so I have a little bit of experience with the engine. I think you were way over propped if you were only seeing 2900 rpm at full throttle. Max rpm is 3300, and I can get to about 3200 flat and level full throttle. Full throttle climb out is about 3150. At any rate, I think you were leaving some performance unused. Keep the videos coming though, I'm waiting to see how that Chinese 912 works out. I have a Rotax 912 in my new Kitfox 4 build, and just started the engine for the first time day before yesterday....

@mmatt 10 месяцев назад

How are you keeping the EGTs in range? Anytime I pitched the prop any flatter than I had it, the EGTs would spike over the redline at cruise rpm.

@jimchuk8511 10 месяцев назад

@@mmatt Richer jetting, main jet for full throttle and needle position for midrange. The 4 stroke is much more tolerant of higher EGTs than the 2 stroke. I think Jabiru says about 1365 F redline. 912 runs way higher than that. I monitor all 4 chts and egts on mine. Flew it for a while this evening and was showing just over 3000 rpm on climb out. EGTs were in the mid 1200s F, CHTs were about 240 F in cruise. Could actually be a bit leaner. What was the serial # on your engine? Mine is a solid lifter #903. They were good engines. I have a channel with flying videos of it and other planes I've had. I think if you click on my name it takes you there. They are no where near as good as yours though. If you can see the tach in the engine monitor, it bounces all over the plane, the tiny tach is what I go by.

@LetsGoAviate Год назад

Seems like an outstanding plane mate. Love that AoA on the stalls! You're still saying "ultralight" on the radio, is it one in Canada? What's the empty weight?

@mmatt Год назад

It's gross weight (among other things) that defines an ultralight in Canada, not empty weight. An ultralight up here needs to have a gross weight of 1200 lbs or less. This plane's gross weight is 1100 lbs. www.tinyurl.com/afafaq The above link will answer a bunch more questions about ULs in Canada if you're interested.

@LetsGoAviate Год назад

@@mmatt Ah ok different from the US and different from South Africa as well. Yep, empty weight question was a seperate question, I'm curious about the weight with the Jabi engine?

@mmatt Год назад

@@LetsGoAviate Oh, gotcha, the BEW is 577lbs.

@scottmiller4711 Год назад

If you install a fairing kit on the wing struts you will definitely gain speed.

@mmatt Год назад

That's the plan! 🙂

@scottmiller4711 Год назад

I own a 750 CruZer with a UL359is. I have a buddy who did a number of upgrades to his 701 to include Jab 2200 to Rotax 912, Uflyit wing strut fairings and and electric flaps which give him multiple flap settings. The fairings and the 912 increased his cruise speed by 10-12 mph.

@mmatt Год назад

@@scottmiller4711 Aside from the flaps, those are the upgrades I am planning to do too. The Jab is just not the right engine for this plane.

@scottmiller4711 Год назад

@@mmatt i agree

@notpoliticallycorrect Год назад

What is the slowest you can fly before it might "break" or stall?

@bgpwrddy Год назад

Dude...Sweet...

@yurimig253 Год назад

What is best glide Speed.? 😊 Good stuff..love it

@mmatt Год назад

The book says about 45 mph but I haven't tested that yet. I see some guys recommending 50-55 mph instead based on their experience.

@lorendjones Год назад

I was curious about your "Ultralight" call on takeoff. What are the Canadian rules for ultralight aircraft? In the U.S. they're limited to 254 lbs, quite a bit less than a Zenith must weigh.

@mmatt Год назад

Canada doesn't have anything like FAR Pt103; everything that flies needs to be registered and all pilots need a licence or permit. Ultralights are any fixed wing plane with 2 seats or less, stall speed of 45mph, and a gross weight of less than 1200lbs. More details here if you're interested: www.tinyurl.com/afafaq

@robertrussell1604 Год назад

Nice.

@flexplexico480 Год назад

Don't let zapper anywhere near that prop

@bobudovich5613 Год назад

What engine do you have in that plane ? We just bought a challenger 2 with a 503 in it. just waiting to get it back from Florida. I like your plane, you will have fun with that one.

@mmatt Год назад

Jabiru 2200A It needs a 912ULS. lol

@jeremylauer5234 Год назад

@@mmatt If your going to change engines, look into the Viking Engines. They have a 110 and a 130 that works really well in the 701.

@gymshoe8862 Год назад

Seems its about as fast with similar performance as the Beaver. Is there cabin heat in that thing? How would you fix the air leak on the left?

@mmatt Год назад

It's 20 knots faster than the Beaver with a slower stall speed and much more sensitive controls. Yes, there is cabin heat and it works very well despite the door gap. I have new doors on order which will let me fit them better to the plane with much smaller gaps.

@gymshoe8862 Год назад

@@mmatt Wow!

@Adventureworks. Год назад

How are you getting audio from head set too video? Great plane 👌

@mmatt Год назад

The intercom has an "out" jack that I connect to my camera. It records everything that the intercom hears.

@Adventureworks. Год назад

@@mmatt what cord are you using?

@mmatt Год назад

@@Adventureworks. 3.5mm jack I'll try to do a video where I show it sometime soon.

@Adventureworks. Год назад

@mmatt thanks so much safe flying

@bonza007 Год назад

Nice plane Matt. Really economical cruise numbers at the slower speed. What kind of engine is in it ? Can you show us around the engine bay one day?

@mmatt Год назад

It has a Jabiru 2200A. There are more details about it in the video description. I have a full walk around video planned for when it's a little warmer. :-)

@bonza007 Год назад

@@mmatt Hey cool, that's the same engine I have in my Bantam. It seems to go pretty well, I just put in oil and gas, and fly.

@DarrenGenge Год назад

Seriously have to get an #insta360 camera you will love it especially what you can do in post!

@mmatt Год назад

I have one. They don't like the cold so I'll use it more in the summer probably.

@scottmiller4711 Год назад

You were saying the ASI in MPH but the GPS in Knots. Both were always about the same how is that?

@mmatt Год назад

Upper winds and a very inaccurate airspeed indicator. lol

@user-rj3io3zj7n 10 месяцев назад

Are the leading edge slats removed from that 701?

@mmatt 10 месяцев назад

Yes they are. I don't think it was built with them in the first place actually. There are VGs installed instead.

@WX4CB Год назад

nice... but you missing out.. we have a bushcat down here for sale at sun n fun :D

@mmatt Год назад

I wish I was there.. say hi to Brent for me if you see him! :-)

@WX4CB Год назад

@@mmatt not sure i know who brent is.

@mmatt Год назад

@@WX4CB LOL, just a buddy of mine who is down there for the week. He's been in a few of my videos but not too many I guess. He owns the black and green X-Air Hanuman.

@WX4CB Год назад

@@mmatt ahh ok... well if you talk to him, tell him to stop by the bushcat/aerosport boothin paradise city

@FLY--wy2yi 4 месяца назад

Hey Matt, cool vid! Was surprised when you said your climb was 800 FPM? Was that Vx or Vy?

@mmatt 4 месяца назад

That would have been really close to Vy and not typical at all for that engine and propeller setup. I'm pretty sure I was flying through some rising air when I noted that. Typical climbs rates when solo were closer to 500 fpm. With the new engine and prop combo, in the same conditions, the climb rate is usually between 1200 and 1500 fpm.

@FLY--wy2yi 4 месяца назад

@@mmatt , 1,200 or more sounds right. I noted 1,600 FPM in the Aeroprakt which really surprised me! In a good way of course. Not sure how this work out on your Zenith, but my plane came with the E-prop. Fantastic prop and only weighs about 5 pounds. Makes start up and shut down on the Rotax is much smoother! Love your Zenith! Excellent video!

@mmatt 4 месяца назад

@@FLY--wy2yi I've heard good things about the E-prop. Haven't had a chance to try one out yet though.

@FLY--wy2yi 4 месяца назад

@@mmatt , the blades are super thin and can give a “constant speed prop” effect. It also pulls like crazy!

@davidhohn7108 Год назад

Matt what size prop are you running????

@mmatt Год назад

64" I think

@scottinohio701 Год назад

What engine do you have????

@ronnieandpatriciamackinnon4958 Год назад

Great plane Matt!! Excellent vid,,nice to see u back in the real world..lol I am confused,,admittedly easily done. At the 7.30 to 8.5 mark, your talking I think asi of 40 mph and 50kts grounding on the GPS. Later on u mention 30 kts and 23 mph in the same sentence. Fair difference as 50 kts is about 57 mph and 30 kts is bout 35 mph.. Your level flight ground speed verses air speed were much closer.. Am I missing something? Has to be something amiss, as solo stall in our warrior,,well it's a slow 500'/ min descent at bout something less than 40 kts.. You obviously are 30 mph 25 kts or there about right?

@mmatt Год назад

Pitot tube is fixed and so with a high angle of attack, less air goes into the tube making a big spread between the airspeed and groundspeed. Not to mention whatever wind was happening at the time as well. I'm finding the stall speed on the ASI anyhere from 25 mph down to zero... lol

@ronnieandpatriciamackinnon4958 Год назад

@mmatt there ya go,, that thought had crossed my mind,,,along with ur dyslexic tendency to reverse things,,nothing important just numbers and such. Lol.. Thanks for clearing it up Matt!! Another trip to Woodstock to see that!!!

@mmatt Год назад

@@ronnieandpatriciamackinnon4958 I get things backwards all the time so that's a real concern!! Hahaha! Come on up anytime! 🙂

@antonioiozzi291 Год назад

what is the name of your airport?

@mmatt Год назад

Woodstock Airport (CCD3)

@cameronlapworth2284 Год назад

Hey has this a better rate of climb than the beaver or does it just look steeper because of the nose?

@mmatt Год назад

It just looks it. The Beaver climbs faster and steeper than this right now.

@cameronlapworth2284 Год назад

@@mmatt okay. Ta. Any mods on the way?

@mmatt Год назад

@@cameronlapworth2284 Yes, stay tuned as they'll be mentioned in future videos as we get them. 🙂

@cameronlapworth2284 Год назад

@mmatt excellent look forward to it as always. Your videos while not as polished as say trent palmer's are just as enjoyable (often because of it). Keep it up love your work. Very informative enormous fun.

@mmatt Год назад

@@cameronlapworth2284 Hahaha! Ya, he's a professional videographer... I can just barely figure out how to keep my cameras from running out of batteries! lol!

@capt_nopants9625 Год назад

Love to see some cameras on the dash lookin' at ya for when you talk, just not... "Up the nose" shots plz. Also maybe a belly cam so we can see you bounce those landings on the inflatable balloons :-) Does that have any sort of cabin heat?

@mmatt Год назад

Yes, it has cabin heat and it's quite effective! I have a tail cam now which you'll see on the next video and I also have a dash cam that looks back at the occupants. I think it works quite well.

@crufflerdoug 2 месяца назад

It’s not a stall speed it’s a “super mush” speed 😂

@gruffystrawbry2715 6 месяцев назад

Shame about the gap at the door frame. Time for some STE. sticky tape engineering.

@eshannonfly Год назад

GPS is groundspeed only. 😜

@mmatt Год назад

Yes, I understand that. lol

@yurimig253 Год назад

360 cam on the top of the rudder. And one 360 cam on the belly and one on a stick in front of airplane....

@mmatt Год назад

You haven't edited 360 footage before, have you?!? lol! One is a lot of work, 3 would be crazy! :-) I'll get mine mounted this summer sometime though so we can all have a look around.

@yurimig253 Год назад

@@mmatt no I have no edit. And you right. but it looks way cool or at least one on a stick in front of the airplane. That is an awesome view...