Feeling Unstable? - Try a Timbren Suspension Enhancement System

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We were looking for a way to enhance our truck's suspension as well as to provide additional support while hauling our truck camper. In addition to adding support, we were also looking for something to help reduce the sway that you sometimes get with a Truck Camper. After researching our options, we found the Timbren Suspension Enhancement System. In this video we show how we installed this system on our 2019 RAM 3500 SRW. It is not only for use with truck campers but it is also used for any type of heavy hauling or towing. We hope this helps someone out there.
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2005 Northern Lite 10-2 Truck Camper - Picked up on 8/10/2019 doing some repairs, maintenance and renovations to this one.
2008 Bigfoot 21RB - Sold 12/2019, we went across country to purchase from a dealer in Pueblo Colorado.
2006 Casita Spirit Deluxe - Sold 07/2018 when we bought our Bigfoot.
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@lizc731 2 месяца назад

thank you for a straight to the point, no nonsense, no drama video! Beautiful camper, by the way!

@ThisNomadicIdea 4 года назад

That’s awesome! Definitely worth the money for the safety and peace of mind.

@mickfarrell6622 3 года назад

Best review yet. I liked the measurements for the factory bump stop to the rear end.

@SmallSpaceLiving 4 года назад

Love the shirt. Very cool setup. Looks much better. Congratulations on the great setup.

@mjm3852 4 года назад

Thank you for such an awesome video on these thingys!! We are about to get a used truck camper and I had heard of these but I hadn't researched them until now. Several people suggested them and we have never owned a truck camper so we are still learning. I want to avoid as many unpleasant experiences as possible as so not to get discouraged about this style of RVing. When I searched RU-vid about RVing in a truck camper, yours was one of the channels that popped up and I've been watching several of your videos.

@pnwaloha 3 года назад

Just ordered these for our f350 to haul our Adventurer 901sb. Great video!

@randygreen7871 3 года назад

Thanks you sold me, I need them and am getting them, great video!

@alaskanadventure3275 2 года назад

Thank you for a very informative video!!

@TravelswithDelaney 4 года назад

I had the Timbrens put on my 2014 4Runner and they were awesome! We didn't really need airbags or weight distribution, so these were an affordable solution to take out just a little bit of sag. I would highly recommend them.

@downbytheriver501 4 года назад

Good video, y'all. I had timbrens on my old 98 ram 3500 and they did help, but they made the ride a lot rougher.

@hddm3 3 года назад

Do you realize how blessed you are? Your wife is amazing. Helps you and compliments you. So Awsome to see. You are very blessed man.

@1951Roy 4 года назад

Interesting, thanks for the demo.

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@Roy Vannoy you're quite welcome. Thank you for watching!!

@JimVincitore 3 года назад

Great video! Very cool! Thank you!

@fasteddie51 4 года назад

Plus fresh water, hot water, propane, batteries (if the factory didn’t install them), fuel and oil in the truck, stuff and gear in the truck, stuff and gear in the camper and don’t forget the people. I think we better add 1,500 pounds minimum to the factory dry weight. I’ve been through this with a LB Ford 3/4 ton with air bags and big stabilizer bars. Lance says their 850 model is made for a 3/4 ton pick up. Wrong, our first trip we were 1,600 pounds over the GRVW top heavy and unsafe. Thanks for your GREAT videos.

@brentjohnson6654 3 года назад

New subscriber here. Thanks for the video. Very good explanation and illustrated measurements.

@billblecher9215 4 года назад

Thanks for the info

@garyferguson1552 4 года назад

Looking good I am running stable loads on my Ford 350 Glad to see your new CAMPER fits in the garagep

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

I was thinking about trying stable loads as well. Getting the camper in the garage is kind of a trick. I have to lower it and put it on a trailer and back it in. Bit if a pain but it works. Thanks for watching!

@garyferguson1552 4 года назад

@@RunawayRoses it may time consuming but in the long run years down the road it will look brand new. My 2005 Bigfoot has been garage kept since new it's nice to know the only weather it sees is the camping trips. The outside stove vent cover turned yellow so I replaced it with a new one from Grant at Bigfoot and I need to address some water spots. You have a beautiful camper happy camping and fishing

@joycemoses2411 4 года назад

Great job! We had to put an air lift on our truck.

@DreamingOutloudRVing 4 года назад

Great video! I have been shopping these afraid to commit. Thanks

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

They have worked great for me so far. Thanks for watching!

@ramtowit549 4 года назад

Great video and commentary - fortunately, I have the RAM factory OEM air bags on my 2018, 3500 DRW so I'm always sitting level. I Still have a little body roll in tight turns I need to resolve. Most likely I will install a rear anti-sway bar. Your truck and camper look great together. They seem to be a great match!

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

A sway bar sounds like a good idea. Interesting I noticed the other day at the Ram dealer while I was checking out some duallys that the truck I saw with factory air bags did not have the overload springs above the spring pack. The trucks without the air bags had the factory overload springs. The overload springs really helped with sway on my old GMC truck. I wish my current Ram 3500 SRW had the factory overload springs. I just thought it was interesting that they come with either/or springs or air bags. Maybe you can order them with both. Maybe you have both on yours which would really be nice. Thanks for watching! ~ Todd

@scallywag6768 4 года назад

That camper needs a road trip. I hope you have a lot of travel plans. Happy traveling

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@Scallywag 67 we just got back from Spirit of the Suwanee Music Park in Live Oak, FL. It was beautiful and warm while we were there. Thank you for watching!

@HappyPlaceDiaries 4 года назад

May need to look into that. we get nose lift, not much but enough that you feel it when we have the Travel Trailer hooked up. Gonna do some homework on this. Seems worth the $$. Thanks for sharing!

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

Hi Happy Place Diaries, I know you guys have a pretty big travel trailer so some Timbrens might do you some good. They help with towing as well as hauling a heavy load. I've enjoyed your videos, keep up the good work. I'm bad about not commenting and need to work on that. :) Take care and thanks for watching! ~ Todd

@HappyPlaceDiaries 4 года назад

@@RunawayRoses No worries Todd... I actually have reminders set to answer comments... so I am a work in progress also! Thanks again.. I do think those may make a big difference in handling our load. Great stuff!!

@Dive-Bar-Casanova 4 года назад

I use timbren on all my vehicles. Healthy rear shocks and 1 3/4 to 2" clearance on the timbrens is essential for them to be any good. I'll never use air bags again,, ever.

@lx5171 3 года назад

Whats wrong with air bags? Reliability?

@seanoleary1979 Год назад

AMEN BROTHER!

@seanoleary1979 Год назад

@@lx5171 Reliability, cost, consistency, and they're not progressive like Timbrens

@Ernesto-te7oj Год назад

I just added Timbran’s on my Jeep gladiator amazing difference highly recommend

@brentmcmahon8188 Год назад

You can never go wrong with blue loctite

@corkwen 4 года назад

I have a 2008 Dodge 3500. It now has 60,000 km on it. Truck has overloads and I added 2 additional leafs to bottom springs. Also put Torklift stableloads both upper and lower along with a Helwig sway bar. Makes huge difference. I have airbags as well but you have to be careful not to inflate too much. Crazy part of it is gvw rating on the door post is 10,100 pounds. Truck weighs close to 7500 pounds so by law I haven't got a lot of wriggle room with my northernlite sportsman on. I would definitely recommend putting some overloads with the torklift products on your truck. I have 0 sway and none of that floating feel.

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@Eskil Neilson thank you for the great info, it all sounds definitely worth checking into.

@sugargoldy 3 года назад

Good video I have them on my 2006 Ram 3500 single wheel one ton it's a shame from the factory that they don't put more leaf springs underneath those trucks they weren't made the ride smooth like a car they were made to be used

@TheArtofRVing 4 года назад

OK...I official respect you know!..the Johnny Cash T-shirt and all....this was interesting....I have not seen these

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@The Art of RVing thanks! Yes, we've been researching some things for stability and these were highly recommended. We'll see how they work. Thanks for watching!

@billb6606 4 года назад

I had timberens on my F150, they were great when truck was loaded. When truck was empty you had a rough ride when hitting bumps or dips.

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@Bill B same here, they are rough when the truck camper isn't on the truck but only when we hit bumps or big potholes in the road. The suspension was pretty stiff even before we installed the timbrens. Thanks for watching! ~Carla

@timtim1074 3 года назад

Wow hard rubber struts

@kellyabercrombie9769 4 года назад

That definitely helps. Exactly the information I was looking for. Any plans to upgrade the sway bar?

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

Hi Kelly abercrombie, We may add a Hellwig sway bar sometime. My truck didn't come with one but it sure seems like all one ton trucks should come stock with a sway bar. Thanks for watching!

@kinnybingman8666 3 года назад

I would suggest also adding something called Roadmaster active suspension. You might be surprised how much that would help.

@RunawayRoses 3 года назад

@Kinny Bingman thanks for the advice. Since this video we switched to a RAM 3500 Dually. We decided the added stability it has along with the airbags makes our truck camper feel more stable on the truck. Thanks for watching!

@David-td5po 2 года назад

@@RunawayRoses You ultimately ended up switching to airbags? I have a ram 3500 and am trying to decide between airbags or timbrens.

@downbytheriver501 4 года назад

Just wondering what kind of mpgs you achieved, and what was your average speed? I'm about to get my NL 9.6 LE in two days and am very excited! I managed to find a set of torklift fastguns, and frame mount tie down system, along with the torklift stableloads (used) for 850! I'm hoping the stable loads will be enough, if not I'll be buying some timbrens like yours...except the lighter duty version. Had to drive 8 hours to great falls and back, but the drive was beautiful. Cheers.

@outcast1189 4 года назад

I have the torklift stable loads on my truck . what i dont like about them is you have to en gage them every time u put camper on truck and disengage them when u take camper off. the timbrens r nice because once u install them you dont have to mess with them ever again

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

I was thinking about trying the stable loads but so far the Timbrens have been working pretty well. Thanks for watching!

@bryanstaten5585 2 года назад

Hey Todd some more additional help if applicable.....see if there is a coilover shock available for your truck. Also for stability since it's srw....how cool would it be to have semi super single wheels on that bad boy!

@martinlandaverde403 3 года назад

Thank you for the video,also do you know about the helper spring wich I think is more heavy duty.

@PidasianHippie 4 года назад

Great information. Do you think these could replace load leveling hitches? That dang thing weighs so much and my back always seems to hurt the first few days of camping because of it. Safe travels.

@davidlavery8336 4 года назад

Looking forward to your dually vs single wheel review with a truck camper if you plan to do that video still. I know you said in your last video the the dually was most likely the way to go, which of course it's going to be better. But how much better and how safe do you feel compared to the dually driving around with the heavy camper on top.

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

Hi David Lavery, That is on my list of videos to get to sometime. My old dually did feel more stable however my SRW is working pretty well. It's nice having two spare tires built into a dually though. Thanks for watching!

@truckcamper5751 3 года назад

use those on my 1172 there junk got airbags no problem

@rabbi6225 2 года назад

I was looking at Sumo Springs and these. I ended up going with the Road Master Suspension on my 1/2 ton instead. My first tow with them is this weekend. Hopefully it removes some of the rebound.

@RunawayRoses 2 года назад

Hey Rabbi, I've looked into the Sumo Springs too but I've never used them. I hope the Roadmaster Suspension works out great for your truck. I have a Roadmaster anti-sway bar in my truck and it works great. Safe travels and thanks again for watching!

@rabbi6225 2 года назад

@@RunawayRoses the RAS did ok at speed. (60-65) no sway when I may have had it before. It however didn’t do what I had wanted. And that was to take out the rebound bounce. I’m going to upgrade my front struts to help settle that. I also adjusted my trucks air pressure up to 44 in the rear in 40 in front. That didn’t seem to do much either. I had seen you removed your sway bar. The RAS is supposed to be one. But I’m not so much believing it. So for now the struts, after the next tow I’ll see if I should go with the sumo springs.

@seanoleary1979 Год назад

@@rabbi6225 ...your first mistake was buying a 1/2 ton truck! Timbrens kick ASS!

@rabbi6225 Год назад

@@seanoleary1979 timbrens would have been fine if I was that over loaded. The RAS does require occasional adjustments. I put on some decent HD shocks in the rear and everything was improved. Yes a 3/4 would be ideal if all I did was tow.

@seanoleary1979 Год назад

@@rabbi6225 ...gotcha! 👍 Zie geshundt!

@Serf_dumb 4 года назад

The rig looks very nice! The install seems surprisingly pretty simple and straightforward. Curious...is your truck gas or diesel?

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@acrodriguez34 thank you! It is a diesel. Thanks for watching!

@Serf_dumb 4 года назад

@@RunawayRoses good to know, thanks! My own interests are nicely following along with your recent transition away from trailers to TCs. This completed project is beyond impressive & has me reconsidering the approach for my 1st rig. Thanks for all the ideas & inspiration!

@JL-qf3hq 3 года назад

Rookie question- is the axle meant to be load bearing?

@djaj423 2 года назад

did you use the severe or standard. if severe did u notice a huge change.. not sure which i need, i tow a 5er and soon a slide in. thanks guys...

@MadnomadM 4 года назад

So your truck doesn’t have the “camper package” correct? I’m just going to start with the camper package extras first but I’d go with those if I need something extra. Only heard great things and have been researching for 3 years.

@jeff67mustang 4 года назад

Was wondering what your height measurement was with camper on the way back from 3 day trip? My guess would be umm 37-5/8" to maybe 38" hopefully you measured. Thanks, enjoyed the video Jeff

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

I had unloaded the camper while camping so it wasn't on the truck for 3 straight days. They do compress a good bit but they still work. Thanks for watching!

@texasproud3332 4 года назад

Have y’all considered air bags firestone makes for just under 400. If you end up thinking to go that route

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@TEX thanks for the recommendation, we'll have to check into those. I think Todd has thought about airbags.

@the1timster 3 года назад

Does it hurt the axle with all that extra weight on it

@rodman23t 4 года назад

if you want to keep your stock ride quality when your empty then throw that rubber junk in the trash and go with the Torklift stable load. got them on my 2020 chevy 2500hd with a 2600 lb camper and I was in 60 - 80 kph winds and there was virtually no ill affects from the wind or the weight and when you disengage them your truck is totally stock handling without slapping those rubber bumpers on the bumps. TRUST ME....YOU WILL THANK ME LATER!!!!

@dscoduc 3 года назад

Before installing the Timbrens it was mainly the leaf springs that had to continuously hold the weight, with an occasional contact with the axle. Now the weight sits on the axles all the time. Is there any concerns about having the weight constantly on the axle instead of on the leaf springs?

@martinlandaverde403 3 года назад

Good question,also I’m thinking and correct me if I’m wrong,but don’t also the leaf springs are supported by the axles,or on top of axles, so no matter what the axle super the way?!

@betterthanideserve76 3 года назад

Silly and uninformed, but I can understand your confusion. The axles carry the weight of the whole vehicle at all times, if you look at the door sticker it gives you max weights for the front and rear axles. Suspension is there for added comfort.

@dscoduc 3 года назад

@@betterthanideserve76 That would have been an excellent answer (plus a thumbs up) if you hadn't started it by denigrating me by calling it silly and uninformed... The whole point of my question was to be "more informed".

@kevinbalmer427 4 года назад

Curious... what was the rational for single rear vs. dually?

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@Kevin Balmer we had a GMC dually that we really liked but it started having some issues. When we started looking again, we need something that Todd could use as a daily driver and the dually wasn't really practical for that for his job. That is why we bought the SRW. If we could have the best of both worlds, we'd have a dually and a daily driver for Todd but that is just more money. So, we opted for the next best thing, a 3500 longbed SRW :-) Thank you for watching!

@wvbonbonqueen 4 года назад

I looked at the link you gave here on RU-vid, and they are showing the ones that are 4 of those blocks. So, if you didn't use the ones with 4 of those blocks how about showing us a link for the only 2 blocks? Would really help all of us a great deal.

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@Sharon Lee Lockhart sorry about that. That is the correct part number so we think it is the correct part. I would recommend calling E-Trailer to buy them. They will help to determine the right ones for your truck. Thank you for watching!

@wvbonbonqueen 4 года назад

@@RunawayRoses Thank YOU, for that help. Best wishes for a better camping trip, with this addition to your camper/truck.

@wvbonbonqueen 4 года назад

@@RunawayRoses Thank you for that help.

@johnklink4825 2 года назад

I’m confused? I thought you had the factory air bags and you added a Roadmaster anti sway bar.

@RunawayRoses 2 года назад

The Timbrens I put on my old SRW truck. Thanks for watching.

@CharlesinGA 4 года назад

Please spend the $10 and take it to a CAT scale and get actual front and rear axle weights (another chance for a good video!!! hint, hint), and compare them with the numbers on the door placard (the other placard, not the one you showed in the beginning). Also look at the tires and find the actual weight capacity on the sidewall (which is specified at 80 PSI) to make sure the tires match or exceed the max axle rating. The eye opener will be how much the front end weighs. You can easily fall within the total Gross Rear Axle Weight limit and still exceed the total Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

Hi Charles, We would like to get the truck and camper weighted sometime. All good points you made. My tires weight capacity are good for our load but it sure is a heavy load for a SRW truck. Thanks for watching again!

@brentmcmahon8188 Год назад

That’s the bad part because you only have a inch or less of travel and that will knock your teeth out. Air bags or the kind that you lock in and out I forgot their name but they can locked in when loaded or unlatch when empty !

@mikejenkins4598 4 года назад

Should have gotten a Dually!

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@mike Jenkins since the release of this video, we decided to go get a dually :-)

@chasedirtbike4155 4 года назад

I don't think they will hold up long term. There is alot of lateral movement they will undergo, that's why original bumps tear off eventually.

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@Chase Dirtbike I guess we'll find out :-) Thanks for watching!

@Icutmetal 4 года назад

I think you're wrong. Plenty of people out there using Timbrens, and not once have I heard of anyone tearing them off.

@mrmichaeltscott 4 года назад

Roadmaster active suspension. Timbren customer service is horrible. Mine came used missing parts and they refused to send the missing parts. Wanted me to pay to have them uninstalled and return the whole thing. Missing bottom nuts and spacers. Some crackpot place out of Michigan. Never again.

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@Michael Scott we didn't have any issues when we ordered or received ours. We ordered ours from E-Trailer. Sorry you had so many issues, that really stinks!

@billtinkler1544 4 года назад

Why not use them when you are pulling a trailer. Every one is always talking about keeping their truck level

@jeff67mustang 4 года назад

Hey Bill, if you resd his description notes under video listing his last sentence answers your statement sir.

@happycamper6260 4 года назад

Frankly, putting that kind of top heavy weight (more than two tons!!!) on anything but a dual wheel truck is questionable... You are measuring & viewing the springs under a static load & not while the load is bouncing up and down, when everything is flexing... Adding thicker snubbers might soften the shock when the frame hits the axle, but does nothing to support the load.. I would have added another leaf to the springs to support the weight and not soften the travel to the axle.. In addition, the thought of a blowout or tire failure of some kind at highway speeds in unnerving.. My stomach would be in knots driving such a rig.. Good luck to you and Carla for living on the edge..!

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

Hi Happy Camper, I agree a dually will support the load and be much safer having an additional two tires in the back. You made all good points that I agree with except after using the Timbrens they actually do help support the load and sway significantly. Having hauled a camper with and without them there is a huge difference. There are a lot of people hauling truck campers on SRW and they do ok however I may end up going back to a dually again sometime. A dually is just not the best daily driver for me and my job. Thanks for commenting and watching!

@happycamper6260 4 года назад

@@RunawayRoses I would have added another leaf to the springs to support the weight and not soften the travel to the axle..

@happycamper6260 4 года назад

@@RunawayRoses I already surmised that this is a dual-use truck and that the money making end off all this cannot be denied.. LOL! Once again, I would have considered an extra leaf spring to carry that weight, with the snubbers as additional insurance against bottoming out the frame to axle.. I dig you both.. !!

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

I agree and I did look into adding some Hellwig helper springs or Supersprings but from much of what I read most people said it raised the back of their truck so I was concerned about that. That just mean all the higher I have to raise the truck camper. I am still thinking about adding some though as well as a Hellwig sway bar. I'm also thinking about trying some stable loads from Torklift. There's plenty of options to try but they all get expensive. One at a time I guess. Thanks for you input! ~ Todd

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

@@happycamper6260 LOL, I wished we were actually making money. If you're ever curious how much someone makes on RU-vid you should look at this page socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCS4QKRIypG8gq221IQrU1Ag It's peanuts compare to the many hours of video editing that goes into this hobby. We might make $8 - $20 per day at the most. Todd might spend 20 hrs sometimes on a video, so it isn't really making money. But people will believe what they want to though. Safe travels! ~Carla

@larryfoster2628 4 года назад

So basically your shocks are useless now

@RunawayRoses 4 года назад

Hi Larry Foster, It certainly does limit the shocks when the truck is unloaded. When the truck is loaded the timbrens have some flex. Thanks for watching.