@Brother John That's not important though. There are unanimously agreed upon standards that are required to be achieved to participate in the military. If you can't reach those standards, tough.
@@EmoPeter2000 true, just dont drop the standards at all. If women can't make it, well then what? It's not like we're losing something. We didnt have women in the infantry before and it'll be the same. Plus if any woman does make it, which I believe they eventually can, she'll truly be highly respected and seen as one of the VERY few.
Till she bitches about being on her period or right before we’re supposed to leave she gets pregnant and puts the rest of them -1 and that’s just assuming there’s only one. We had 3 just in our company (small combat mos not infantry tho) get pregnant and didn’t deploy with us and left us 3 short. And we were already short... fuck that... there is faaar more risk with having women in
Thank you. Another example of this is Rhonda Rousy. She doesn't give a shit about all this women's rights bullcrap She's proven them all wrong and she knows it.
This woman right here is a sigma female. She never lied about what her abilities is; Understands the limits; accepted the shortcomings of her gender; proceeds to continue to serves her country despite the hardships. Definitely she has an sigma mindset.
Yeah, she took on as much responsibility as she thought she could carry and had the humility to lay down the burden when it became too much for her - absolute respect, both for her dedication to herself and her people and her acknowledgement of her limits - many people are promoted to the point of incompetence and break down permanently, it takes a special kind of person to lay down their current duties and resume serving in a different capacity with grace. 100% respect.
@@youareaspook5897 amen. Glad to have people like her in the military. When the enemy roll up to your door, we need people with common sense and calm mindset
i am female and if i were military i would put myself to set the goals that the men have so i wouldn't f'n die. some woman can actually be as strong as the men but some just stay at their lower standards, i think they should have same requirements if anything, and woman should do more intense training or something. not completely excluded Edit: Wow, y'all. Almost a year later and I have learned a lot through these comments about the topic and humans as a whole. Some people in these comments are intelligent and we both have learned from each other while debating. But if your coming to be to basically spam "you're wrong!" "you're wrong!" over and over, I do not want to debate you and your unmovable presuppositions and deal with your cognitive dissonance.
@@supportsniper4626 You do realize that if military training women was any harder, they’d have to let every woman know that after their service they’ll be infertile. And no a woman can’t be as strong as a man, only if the effort is unequal. If you take a man and woman, have them train their hardest for the same amount of time, and the man will win.
Drakonus equality of humanity, equality of opportunity, and equal measure of merit. No boundaries but also no lowered standards. I’m all good with a women who wants to destroy her body for her country but it’s gotta be at the same level as all that enter that role
Her voice changed and she got emotional when she mentioned "infertility". It definitely wasn't easy for her to go through it. Why would any woman want to push themselves to the brink of destruction? Sometimes equality isn't the answer. Key differences make us who were are.
She isn’t totally infertile. What happens is when women lose too much body fat, they become infertile during that time period. Bottom line is this. Women know good and well they don’t want to take on the burden of a man. It’s all smoke and mirrors when females ask for equality. Females only want equality when it’s in an air conditioned building and they want the high paying jobs in those roles only. This woman had to only go through a portion of what the men did and it broke her, so she knows first hand that women can’t physically compete with men.
Because usually the only ones who push "equality", are the ones who are NOT impacted by this. No sane woman would do something like this to "prove" that women are equal to the men in terms of strength, mental strength etc..
Simp PS: I apologize. I shouldn't have used the word simp inappropriately. It was completely unnecessary and doesn't suit the context. My sincere apologies to any simps whom I may have offended.
Elix 89 if the standards are the same and everyone in the battlefield meets them shouldn’t a woman be able to carry a brother in arms to safety? Not trying to fight just saying
metallicak5 There's a reason why! it's because she's valued more, and that she's weak cute and vulnerable, her special treatments are based on the fact she's a woman. The public eye looks at the men as he can take care of himself even if he's captured and near death, nobody would be in such distress to get him. We see examples of this with battered woman they get shelters and government funding to take care of them with all these problems they face, We sure don't see these programs existing for battered men under such distress as civilians! so that's how unfair it is for men. men get nothing no help when combatted with such bullshit!.
Maybe I mixed up the nation, or I'm thinking of WW1, but I've heard stories and seen pictures of dead female soldiers who were brutally raped until dead, stabbed in the vagina, etc.
@@usernameluis305 the anchor didn't seem to blink at that. Best case scenario she though a "Sorry to hear that." would come of wrong, somehow. Worst case scenario she though nothing of importance was lost. Either way, I myself was very sorry to hear that.
We did this on school once, the girls were very confident that they could beat boys in a wrestling competition because they took classes. The boys didn’t go hard on them and 1 boy lost because he was going easy, the girl started yelling that he was nothing and she could beat him all day. The boy asked a rematch to our PE teacher and yeah..... she cried and ran away because he bodyslammed her and had her in a choke hold:-)
Arkx123 last year we were a all boys class and we had the same teacher, same rules but we could take a hit and still laugh about it. And yeah this year there’s girls and we gotta take it easier
1: Open up the infantry to women 2: women don’t want to be in the infantry 3: review numbers after 12 months 4: see numbers are much lower than was hoped for. 5. Lower the fitness standards to try and pump up the numbers 6. Watch the unit slowly deteriorate due to lower quality soldiers passing through 7: numbers still are not high enough, blame the patriarchy and “toxic masculine culture” of the marines Rinse and repeat.
@Saturn not as rare as you might think, a large amount of Olympians who are in a strenuous physical field end up with hormonal and reproductive issues in the long term
She's honest because she's honest. Women should abandon the "strong, independent powerful" nonsense because it makes them less feminine. Women are not supposed to be hard, they are supposed to be soft. Women are not supposed to be bullheaded, loud or forceful. They're supposed to be demure. In case you are one of the many people who have forgotten what a woman is, search for videos on "how to be feminine" and "how to be ladylike"
When I went through Marine Corps bootcamp, the disparity in training was a joke. Men did standard push-ups, women on their knees. Men did pull-ups, women hung from the bar for a few seconds. Women skipped upper body intensive portions of the obstacle course. When we shot the rifle, they didn't even bother going to the 500-yard line. Excuse me? When you have that type of disparity in training requirements (and outright skipping obstacles), what does that tell you? You can force-feed all the feminism and equality you want down a society's collective throat, but on the battlefield reality prevails. Ask a woman to carry her gear plus a 225 lb. man off the battlefield for medical treatment and you are guaranteed not one dead Marine, but two.
thats cuz americans treat women like princesses and breed princesses .. all other countries that have them tell them ... do as the guys do or get out ... if they cant cut it they cant cut it .. weeds out the princesses like this disgrace of a marine capt
Same thing in the Israeli's much publicized foray into co-ed frontline military. Despite significantly lowering standards for females, 46% of them are too injured from training at any given time to be operational.
IN ECUADOR, WHERE THE 21 CENTURY SOCIALISTS NEARLY DESTROYED THE COUNTRY AND THE ARMED FORCES IN TEN YEARS OF CORRUPTION, IT IS INCREDIBLY UNFAIR. FEMALE SOLDIERS OF ANY RANK ARE USUALLY TREATED LIKE QUEENS, THEY ARE "SOLDIERS" OR "WOMEN" ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION, THEY USUALLY DO NOT MEET ENTRY STANDARDS, SUCH AS HEIGHT AND FITNESS, AND ONCE OFFICERS, ALMOST ALWAYS FATTEN UP, FAIL PHYSICAL TESTS, AVOID JOBS AND MILITARY RESPONSABILITIES THAT IMPLY RISK LEAVING THEM TO MEN, BUT ARE ALWAYS READY FOR TRIPS ABROAD, THEY PROTECT AND COVER UP THEIR FEMALE BUDDIES, AND IF YOU WANT TO DISCIPLINE THEM, THEY WILL REPORT YOU FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
At no point did she say women are physically inferior to men. She also did not say women should not be allowed into the infantry. The title of this video is complete click-bait bullshit
Flying Tanker That’s the thing about the military generally. We actually have common sense and the common sense that speaking the truth is right, regardless of the liberals sticking out their bottom lips, throwing a tantrum and crying (whatever it is they cry! Sexism, misogyny, bigotry, gender or identity politics etc etc) Facts are more important than feelings but the liberal left think feelings are more important than facts, logic or common sense.
using false data and follow on troops experience ... she is so full of shit her eyes will turn brown any moment ... I have served with women and they are invaluable assets in the thick of it ... they increase effectiveness of troops just by being there ...and add a new view on tactical situations making for a broader set of choices to do what must be done ... they are definately any man's equal in the field.
I was a third generation military person who served eight years in the army. I can honestly say it was a bad idea to let women into front line roles. It’s bad enough to fight the enemy, but to have to carry someone who couldn’t carry you if you get injured makes it worse. I was in training situations where the women assigned with us couldn’t carry the camouflage netting. They would complain that it was too hard. These same women would get pregnant just to get out of the military.
What you said is so true and seemingly obvious, it makes me wonder if the people who are pushing for this have ever seen combat...it just doesn't make sense.
E M Military and police shouldn't be spoken of together as if somehow they are the same. American government is about checks and balances, and separation of powers is one of those checks. For example, a rogue city police force would ultimately be checked and countered by the military. The police shouldn't be acting and equipping themselves as if they are somehow military, nor should they ever be allowed to train with the military. As a career military veteran I find the militarization of police in America disgusting and dangerous.
E M as I said before it there are plenty of women officers that can handle themselves I know plenty of them I know plenty of EMTs that can handle themselves I'm going to school to be a CNA there are plenty of nurses that can handle stuff that are women military is a different thing but here's the thing she's braver than I am when it comes to wanting to serve my country there is a reason that the police have pepper spray they have clubs they have guns to protect themselves
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Holly Gillian - What? You're talking specifically about women, I'm talking about lowering standards overall to appease some sense of equality. Good for anyone who can make the grade, but standards should never be lowered to accommodate more of any group.
Holly Gillison that's a lie. Because femenest themselfs are trying to get special treatment and lobying to make the test easier for women. But whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.
Nedal Salman when I said officers I meant police but I'm saying women can handle a lot lot of different things different jobs I'm thinking this woman for her service
It's funny that the women who has actually weathered the storm is saying that women to join infantry is not the best idea, while the anchor who has barely stepped out of her air-conditioned studio is pushing really hard for it. Thanks friends. Never got so many likes.
She isn't necessarily pushing FOR it, it seems like she's mainly trying to get her to explain why she feels the way she does, so that people watching will know.
Dude come on, it’s Fox News. You clearly know where they stand with this and the way the interview is being done is to allow the guest to make their point. Really don’t know what you’re on about, this interview is set up to be in the favor of the guest.
Yes, that. The 'front line'. Why does nobody understand the concept? Women on front lines are rarer than serial killers. Most women are in logistics or medical positions in the military, where they don't have much of a use for that type of physical strength in the first place.
I think she was just provoking her to outright say that men are better suited for the position for the headline. She's a reporter so I don't doubt that she's just looking for a soundbite, especially with the hypocrisy of the entire situation.
@@breathej.4872 pretty sure men who hate who hate woman are not looked at normal😂 I think the word your looking for is incel and they are not looked at as normal by any means
Reminds of an Indian commander who ended the debate with a simple question " Can you piss, take a shit and change your sanitary Napkin in front of me and the rest of the unit? "
Tylor Lilly I'm not saying the zero has ever made it, matter of fact I would doubt that. On the other side of the coin, everything I've looked into they to gut the program in order for anyone to make, its all politics.
Tylor Lilly They did that for army infantry, I forget the time but for months zero woman passed the training will make standards. they crippled the program and even still more than half failed.
Well I don't think a presidential fitness plan is the same thing as military service. It is fine to have sexed standards for say being healthy, or a men and women's league sports time, but it is another thing to have two standard for how well you can kill or be killed. Lets say we have an engineering competition something like "build a rocket" the fastest highest flying rocket wins, the gender ratio is irrelevant and will probably skew male as fewer women are going to give a fuck about rockets. In your example of national fitness or sports there is no external judgment, anyone can set up any rules for victory, but when there is external judgment, when you can't set the rules for victory, then all that matters is who ever has got the best ability. So lets say you need people that can drag other people out of a firefight, haul all their equipment by foot while shooting at people, you need people that can kill and not die, you can't create a different standard for men and women, unless the enemy is going to treat the women better! A universal military fitness standard would simply determine your role in war, from army base cook to special forces marine. There would be plenty of military roles that women would be fine at in even gender ratios, some even in combat, military pilots for example, women are usually smaller, lighter, have shorter heart to brain distance. Look at the air force, their biggest test is how many Gs you can take, that is it. Centrifugal force does not give you special credit because of your genitals.
+frbe0101 Give women easier condition. Thats fair, o wait. What about transgender for that matter? Heard of transmen approved in female sport. I think its gonna turn into transport hohohoho
San dro It is only a matter of time before some man who failed the male fitness standards for the military demands to be counted under the female standards as a transsexual. It will be like Carlynn Jenner being declared women of the year X1000. That is if the trans-loophole is made sooner of later lots of men are going to use it, it become an obvious and shameful farce.
+Mary Ellin What do you do if a commander give you an order for 10 km(or 10 mile) walk, then assault. Then run 1 km(1 mile) then make a patrol. It is the time you need physical strength. Having double standart do not create double field to fight. A person needed to fit field standart.
What's obviously a man? Anyway I don't think most women think it's sexist other than those crazy feminists. There are things that guy and girls excel differently in and guys are naturally way stronger and more dominant than girls. There are exceptions but feminist try to pretend there are no differences. Sometimes from person to person there is not much difference, but that doesn't mean that girls and guys are not different generally
@@eliasmagus5086 it's more than just physicality, the mere presence of a woman causes issues socially in the ranks, soldiers will be soldiers and such...
My mom was a marine for almost 11 years and switched as a Staff Sergeant to become a Navy Nurse and is now an O-6 after 34 years of service. She says the exact same thing.
@@Briselance She gave birth to me well after her time in the marines. She was in the nurse corps for about 2 years before she had my older sister and 4 years before she had me.
The people who serve know the difference, it’s the ones who sit behind a desk and write articles for stupid magazines that think they can fight a marine and win with ease.
She didn't mention to that Women don't do so well out in the field for weeks, sometimes months without showering. It's a fact Men are more built for this and even they struggle. These feminist must hate feminine energy.
I don't get why feminists are pushing towards "equality" by demanding that women do what guys do! What's this obsession with doing things that men do?! They hate men, yet they want to be like men! Can't they just embrace and focus on the things that women are naturally better at?! It's like "Oh look, that guy is doing that thing which I think is cool, I must show that I can do it too otherwise he's being a misogynist!" but apparently the things that women do best are no longer cool for them, for some bizarre reason! :/ Feminists are like guys trapped in women's bodies who want to be guys but have all the privileges of being a woman! It's mental!
Spetsop because they want men to be obsolete. they're already working on ways for females to be impregnated by other females/themselves. m.slashdot.org/story/96820
JGSH13 Whatever. You are Insane, it isn't to make the Male of the species obsolete; we are not black widow spiders. and it would be impossible. tighten the top of you're tin-hat
JGSH13 well really, come on; this is what the comment section is for, debate - enlighten me. How would it even be possible, for the Female of our species to dominate the Males? Look at the specs? The Alien creators made that shit impossible. We are supposed to live in harmony, too bad their is so much control in this time, it makes fragile People unstable. God damn Gov. Media and dichotomizing by Race and Status! *Everyone. Is losing. They're shit*
Rain TheNiloticGirl You are obviously ignorant. We all know there are weak men and strong girls. But Biologically and logistically Men tend to be bigger and stronger. Don't make sweeping statements.
She sees what people refuse to see: men and women are made DIFFERENTLY. Why can't people see that. Men do some things better than women, and women do some things better than men.
apart of there anger is "Men can phsyically do things women cant" and then "Men choose not to do things women excel at" Its the very principal that men mostly feel "I can do everything better than you, other than the physical act of giving birth" from architecture to clothes design, to math and physics. I remember my auncle told me in 10th grade back in the mid 80s his highschool gym teacher stood him up in front of his class (6ft male 210lbs) that he was stronger and faster then 99% of all women who have ever lived (he was a pretty good track and field). the term they used to use back in the 80-70-60s was penis envy, women simply feeling they got the short end of the stick in the gender lottery. that has been subverted now into feminism the want for men to be viewed as equal to men in all areas in society. Feminism back then was women simply wanting to have the same governing rights and access, Feminism now is women saying "well im not exactly able to succeed with only the same access so you need to change the barrier for entry AND make laws for me only to garauntee i succeed". I thnk every man today would be a 60s feminist "yeah let them vote, yeah let them get a bank loan, yeah let them run for office" I dont think we have an issue with that anymore new feminism though is an entirely different beast based off inequality
You dont prove shit with your one sentence comments. All you do is emphasize on the lack of ability to bring up actual facts to back up your "wrong but ok" bullshit.
i am female and if i were military i would put myself to set the goals that the men have so i wouldn't f'n die. some woman can actually be as strong as the men but some just stay at their lower standards, i think they should have same requirements if anything, and woman should do more intense training or something. not completely excluded, tho.
If anything, if they are “inferior to men” and they get recruited, wouldn’t that feel so much better? You did the same training as someone better than you, and you may have gotten recruited, you beat all odds and made it!
If a woman would do the same thing as a man she would still be weaker, that's how nature works. The army doesn't need gender equality, it needs strength.
@@damianpicalau6642 The average man is stronger then the average girl, but if a girl trains, she could be as strong as the average man, it would just be harder.
I am a soldier in the austrian special forces the "Jagdkommando", we had several women (dozens) try to pass the entrance examination and not one was able to. There is a reason training in the military is so rigorous and standard is so high, because in combat that can mean the difference between life and death. If they pass the entrance exam, by all means, let them join, but there has to be ONE STANDARD for everybody.
Let's be clear, you are talking about fitness requirements for a special forces unit, correct? I agree that no one should be in the special forces who cannot pass the standardized testing and training. I am Canadian Armed Forces and to my knowledge there are no women working as assaulters in JTF2 (even if there were we wouldn't know about it because their identities are suppressed for obvious reasons). Canadians have allowed women into all positions since 1989 which means we have female infanteers and combat arms soldiers. They are the gross minority of combat arms because most women choose other trades. To be fair most men choose other trades though as the combat arms do not make up the majority of soldiers, sailors and airmen. The women I have met who are combat arms are fit and tough. I know lots of men who have worked with them and they have expressed no issues so long as they can keep up; this sentiment applies to men as well. If you can physically hack the combat arms they will force you to change trades regardless of your gender. The Canadian fitness standard called the FORCE test and the Battle Fitness Test are not prorated for gender or age which means every person in the the CAF must pass the same fitness test, period. There are incentive levels for the FORCE test now which account for age and gender but the minimum standard is the same for everyone. Beyond that all unit PT is done together and there is not a male/female version of PT. If we go on a march everyone carries the same weight, everyone goes the same distance and everyone has to finish by the same time. This also applies to runs and bodyweight training. There is more of an issue with certain trades being less fit than actual gender issues. There are additional physical standards based on specific occupations such as paratrooper, Search and Rescue Techs, Special Operations Forces, divers, Fire Fighters, flight crew and so on. These standards are also gender neutral which means any women in these positions have met that standard. I would take a fit women over an unfit man any day and that seems to be the sentiment with my male colleagues. There are women who are unfit for combat roles, but we must bear in mind there are lots of men who are unfit for those jobs too. Making a blanket statement that every woman is unfit does not bear out when the opportunities are made available.
Yes, in my case I am talking about fitness requirements for a special forces unit and as I said, if women pass the entrance exam, they should be allowed in. I am NOT suggesting NO WOMEN period. What I am saying, is that lowering standards for women just so they can "get in", could be really dangerous and potentially cost lives.
ridddix I agree 100% that standards, be they fitness testing or training rigors should not be changed to accommodate for gender or age, particularly in the case of special forces. I'm not sure why I gave you such a long reply before. I think I was just verbosely pointing out that single standards are being implemented in Canada and they are working.
there is no "IF" it will 100% without a doubt this would become the root cause of unnecessary deaths of otherwise able body men, an alpha male's Achilles heel is the ingrained biological compulsion is to be the protector of the weak and that is what will get him killed when Jane can't cope any longer and he has to take his focus off the fighting and surviving to carry her ass.
I work underground in a mine setting up ground support, for every 15 split set bolts i carry, my female counterpart carrys 3. For every 2 mesh sheets i carry she carrys 0 because she cant even lift one. The kicker is i spent 1 year as a contractor to get signed on to a permanent role, and she got signed straight on with 10k a year more pay. We are all equal, some are just more equal then others...
@@anthonyperkins5856 yup, quotas that let whamen slip in ahead of actually qualified men for the same/better job. It's all a bullshit joke and I get sick of seeing it in businesses around me.
Im in the army, and i find it despicable that now our pt standard has dropped to allow women to pass and not feel left out. Were trading national security for feelings.
Don't worry, with the way things are going, I feel like there's gonna be a wake-up call soon, and things like the military, masculinity, and feminism will go back to the way it was a hundred years ago.
Its kinda poetic when you look at it. Feminist would give up their ability to make babies (the function that defines womanhood) just to be like men...Its like they're literally turning to men, smh😪.. btw im not calling her a feminist.
Daniel Bell She underwent the same training as the men and that lead to a lotta problems including extreme weight loss, muscle atrophy, and infertility. This is only a portion of the training regiment but caused immense stress to her body. She literally wasn’t built for it.
I served as a Cav Scout in an Infantry unit, and can honestly say that some women can do it. BUT, it should only be done if they are held to the same PT, training, etc standards. We're talking about lives being saved or lost here, not equality parades.
I am at 10th mountain. Most women here are smaller than most men. Nothing wrong with their character though. Most of them couldn't make it through ACFT.
You're damn right if the building is on fire I'm not gonna complain about a woman carrying me out of the building... but I've seen women in incredible shape struggle to carry the hose up 10 flights...I'd rather you tell me the most intelligent way to get there and the mindless grunt make the climb. :) I hope that came out right! :)
@@juana2631 ACFT is a joke! The minimum is easy, and a lot of people are still not passing. I do think there should be more battlebuddy carry or higher weight drag to simulate carrying a person, but then that would cost a lot of injuries and high medical expenses. AND, people still won't pass anyways! They will retire in 20 years with walking profile. Thanks for holding up standards! Good luck US military!
@@salazam yea, it is smart. Holding everyone to the same standards in training keeps weirdos like you off the battlefield. You'd probably get your stupidity caught on a trip wire.
couldnt agree more its easier for a male.to be told that he cant father a child then it is to tell a female.that she cant have babies. i know cause i have been trough it my wife is still running on all cylinders and im misfiring. yes i would like to have a nother child but that aint happening.but i could imagine what my wife would go throu if they told her she wasnt working properly
I'm an American. I'm a male. I want to get pregnant. It's my right as an American to do so. Now, go spend a billion dollars in research so you can find 1% of us who may be capable of doing so. Hurry, my feelings are hurt. Run along, and can I be on the news while you're at it. I'm courageous.
Well, it's like this, man. A VERY SMALL percentage of women want this position in combat arms. Of that percentage an astounding few, and I'm talking a shockingly small amount, will have what it takes to make it without lowering standards etc. So, America believes we should absolutely accommodate them by dropping millions of dollars in to surveys, studies, new bathroom facilities, more barracks and a slew of other issues I would have to think about. All this for literally 10 -15 women. And more than likely, burnout will hit and they will move on to another job set, and others, new ones that possibly will not follow in there steps because they will figure out what we have known. Infantry sucks. So, rather than say hey, this is how it is, we bend over backward to fulfill anyone's whim and fancy. So, I think America should pay for me to get pregnant, no matter the absurdity of it. Now, I'm not a woman hater. Love them, I personally oversaw the insertion of the FET team in Afghanistan (female engagement team) and those ladies did well at that job. But not everyone deserves a participation trophy, man. I just retired after 20 yrs in the Corps, and there is so much more to it than just saying OK give it a try.
I think the blind and those in wheelchairs should also have a chance to serve. Being blind should not prevent someone from being a fighter pilot or a forward observer in the artillery.I look forward to whole battalions of Marine infantry made up of quadriplegics and women. Also why should tourettes sydrome bar someone from being an air traffic controller at an airport or on a carrier. We must be fair and provide equality opportunity.
Mark Twain Hey, Samuel Clemens, beautiful post, man. While we're at it, midgets should be afforded game time in the NBA! What were we thinking? We need to accommodate all desires in this country.
Thanks for your service. Not the same war, but your brothers helped my family in Korea survive and make it to America. You and your fellow servicemen deserve unending honor.
mar504 can’t agree more... Third wave feminism was necessary, unfortunately today’s “post third wave/fourth wave” feminism is so fucking dumb man, I’ve never seen so many hypocritical, manipulative , sluts , gold digging trashy ass women now called feminists in one single group, and the worst part is some men are so fucking taught to “treat the ladies right” when they’re literally getting fucked over so bad man
I want equal rights for men and women. That means same pay, respect, and equal rights. But ladies, if the boat is sinking, don't expect me to give up my seat on the life raft. After all, we are equals.
Mr. Glabalabadubeestu The Mexican Cyclops more women than men die if shinking ships anyways www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2128812/Women-children-Sadly-quite-chivalrous-real-life--twice-men-survive-sinking-ships.html
Fanny Lindfors I smell some bs and contradictions there. Also do you think an article is credible? No, it's not. They can and will cherry pick information.
The only reason the women were given the lifeboat seats on the titanic was because the men didn't really believe the ship was going to sink. Women are usually more likely to die in a shipwreck, as they're pushed aside by the stronger men. Tired of seeing Titanic used as an excuse to shout bullshit. You know in a life or death situation most people are going to put their survival first. Gender doesn't matter in those situations.
“The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself”- Thomas Jefferson. Women should have the right to join the military, but they need to be able to perform the necessary requirements to do so.
I spent 23 years on urban fire dept and have worked with women both as a medic and fire fighter. They try not to put two females on same medic unit because to often they need to call for a lift assist which now puts another fire engine or medic out of service. And the top 10% of female fire fighters perform at a level worse then the worst 10% of the male firefighters consistently for all 23 years I was there. It just go's to show how much less qualified the other 90% of the women are. I also spent 6 years as an infantryman in the Army and the biggest concern if females fought in combat is if a sargeant has to order someone to charge a machine gun nest, and its between a man or women because no one else is available, does he order the man to do it because we are subconsciously protective of women or he orders the man to do it because he has a better chance of completing the task. Either way its not fair to the man.
@@tinaswain8537 I agree with you, I had a female partner for a while and I usually handled most of the physical stuff while she utilized her talent for empethizing with troubled people and understanding their emotions.
Tina Swain yea no, you dont hear men wanting to get kicked in the nuts over and over. You on the other hand have no problem saying you want another kid. Men = higher pain tolerance :). Or ginger females as proved by mythbusters
@Copperhead Sutton at my dept everyone had to take turns doing every job, there were no set jobs like just being truck driver/operator. I knew a few women who had the heart of a champion but the strength of a teenage boy. I felt bad that they had to struggle to prove themselves all the time.
Woman: "Papa, Charlie, Bravo we have a problem!" Man: "Here is the commandant speaking, what is the problem?" Woman: "Nevermind" Man: "Please explain" Woman: "You should know that!"
There should be all female infantry battalions. Send them in first. Then while the enemy is incapacitated with hysterical laughter, the male infantry will come in and wipe out the enemy.
Had a political science professor back in the first Gulf War say something similar. If they win the battle, we can say you got beat by a bunch of women. If they lose, you beat a bunch of women. Its a win-win situation for us.
On average the average male has around 19 times the testosterone that the average women has. It’s just the genetics that make a man more well suited for these jobs
i am female and if i were military i would put myself to set the goals that the men have so i wouldn't f'n die. some woman can actually be as strong as the men but some just stay at their lower standards, i think they should have same requirements if anything, and woman should do more intense training or something. not completely excluded
@Assassin Clan no no, that's not what i said... I said, some woman CAN be as strong as men (aka some have the ability to do the EXTRA workouts that are required to reach a man's standard to be in the military)
@Assassin Clan I know that, but I said at least they need to fit the standards if they wanted to join, which I think would mean longer and harder trainings. So yea, I agree with your statement
Because for Generationd men are the ones doing work, going to war, farming, hunting and all other stuff. Meanwhile females are used to support the males so that they can keep on going
I think the best solution for this is to put a serious physical test. If you pass it you can join in the frontline and if you don't you cant. Without looking at your gender
And when barely any women pass it, someone is going to scream that it's sexist and demand that the bar be lowered so more women can pass, as though the bar was deliberately set high for the express purpose of excluding women.
@@Dan_Brandybuck in this situation, the government should take complete control over the media and teach people that war isnt a joke and if women want equal rights they have to go through equal trainings, and they should remind people that there are men how didnt pass the test as well
ALI NABEEL woah woah there man government taking control of media seems a bit dictatorial but I do agree war isn’t a social experiment and it’s not a college campus there’s studies that prove that women in combat jobs don’t work.
i am female and if i were military i would put myself to set the goals that the men have so i wouldn't f'n die. some woman can actually be as strong as the men but some just stay at their lower standards, i think they should have same requirements if anything, and woman should do more intense training or something. not completely excluded, tho.
I used to believe (simplistically, I admit): "if they pass the same standards as men, sure, they are welcome". That's until I approached the Army and talked with many of its members who enlightened me about the psychological aspects of serving as a women, the pressure it generates, etc... Don't get me wrong, I am sure there is a place for women in any army, in which capacity they can sometimes outshine the men. A female can be an excellent pilot, analyst, translator, drill instructor, prison guard, general, you name it. Just need to admit that the reverse is true: there are things men do better, and there is even missions where employing a female would actually be *detrimental*, and that is just a fact of life we need to accept.
My younger daughter is in the Army. She's a Sgt. She's still in. Even though she can do the PT, she says she always struggles with it more than the guys. And SHE IS one, tough, chick!. My older daughter was a Quartermaster, in the Navy for five years. She hated it. One term, and out.
@@dragunovbushcraft152 Of all the few girls I actually knew (Which was like a handful because I'm a loser lmao) only one friend actually passed the requirements and managed to join the infantry. And even then after deployment a few times she couldn't stand shooting other people so she switched to being a combat medic instead, preferring to save as many lives as possible in combat instead of taking it. She's no longer alive, killed while trying to help a critically injured enemy troop. The sweetest people always die young for some reason.
yes . but that doesn’t mean women don’t deserve the same opportunities and respect as men. personally, i know plenty of women who has what it takes it be a marine more than certain men i know. yet i still agree we’re different in many ways, i think in rare cases there are women who CAN do these things-so why not give them the opportunity to do so? it just seems silly to me. just because women would be let in infantry doesn’t mean it would automatically be female dominated. there’s still going to be more men then women- that’s inevitable. if there’s a couple ABLE women on the front lines then i don’t see the problem. over the years there has been less and less marines. so to reject a completely trained and abled marine just because she’s a women is quite silly.
I remember in basic there was this little guy, five two maybe a buck thirty - anyways the drill staff thought it would be funny to pair him up with the 6'4" bodybuilder who was about two fifty. The little guy earned the nickname of the 'ant' because an ant can lift up to fifty times its body weight. He picked up this giant and slung him over his shoulder in a fireman carry and ran the 600 meter test. The big guys hands were dragging in the muck, but the Ant didn't slow down one bit.
Anyone ever worked a job where half the people didn't want to be there or played on a sports team where half the team didn't care if they won as long as they played. It makes the whole team lose interest. If women aren't as physically or mentally tough they have no business in an organization that literally could mean the difference in our country existing or not.
When I was a young Marine and went to NCO school in MCRD San Diego (1990), I had as one of my instructors a female Marine by the name of Sgt Tulley ( If my memory serves me correctly). She could out run, out hike ( hump for us Marines) and out shine most male Marines. I asked her one day about what she thought about women Marines in combat units and she simply said " hell no". Even though she could hold her own, she said she thought it was crazy to do that. I respected her for her candor.
i think its esasier to find woman who can endure, but in terms of strength, fireman carry. lift someone out of a fox hole ect. . its just not do abble.
Operate Human SHIELD is a go. Tell them that they enemy is chauvinist pigs that support Trump and you won’t have enough transport to get them out there.
*0* women out of *30* have passed men's infantry officer training. Truth be told, if I have to cover the front of a building and I have to trust a woman to keep the enemy from entering the back of the building and stabbing me in the back.... Let's just say there's no way in hell I'm getting any sleep that night. You can't have a someone who can be easily overpowered covering your 6. Enough of this nonsense. Even if one manages to make it through the training and ends up with her boots on the ground in a war zone, she's more a liability than an asset.
I remember taking the Presidential Physical Fitness tests in high school. Males had to do 20 pull ups (at least) and all women had to do was hang on the pull up bar for 20 seconds. I don't agree with all the commenters here, but on the topic of strength and endurance, there simply is no question that men do better than women.
Agreed, during a combat situation the team with a woman will be at a major disadvantage simply for the fact that all the men will unconsciously keep an eye on her. She will also be a liability physically-vise because women, even if they train hard, will always be weaker than men facing the same training (she could train a lot more to catch up, but then there's the risk she's gonna be more tired) and obviously getting her period in the middle of a fight can be a big problem too (be it her psychic abilities, need to change it down there every so often, or simple health risks involved). In case of a capture it's obvious what would happen to her (not like it didn't happen to men, but in far smaller numbers, with a woman it's pretty much a given it will happen and it's one of the reasons they were never allowed to wage war and why prostitutes earned good money wherever the military was stationed). Long story short, I'm all for women joining the military, but do the important jobs in the back (look at queen Elisabeth II.!) and leave the men on the frontlines, it'll be safer for both parties
"As women, we demand equal opportunities in the military. We want jobs men do because women can do anything a man can... but the military shouldn't be able to order us to deploy to combat zones and fight because we're women." Equality in 2015.
+hsiehman One actually exceptional, high achieving lady in military will just be the 'bragging rights' for a thousand flabby feminists that will never dread the Draft ever.
Your either in combat rolls like men, or your not?....Everybody from both genders will automatically be enrolled into severe combat areas, and everybody will pull their own weight. Literally.....Women WILL be told to go combat ready at a moments notice, just like the men........It's called gender equality.
Some girls are naturally really bulky and some guys are pretty weak. I think they should just have a standard for phsycial fitness or training and not to lower the bar for girls. People should just do what they are best suited for
@@beach2550 yet the strongest female couldn't even best the average man yeah id still doubt she can carry one big ass 6"3 Man take your feelings aside mate.
Taste of reality. Ask a women "What can a woman do that I man cannot" THEN ask "What can a man do that a woman cannot" The answers to those two questions solves the problem. NO OFFENSE TO WOMEN. Men and women are "Different". Do not equate that with "Inferior". If you do get offended get a grip on reality. I'm a genius I know.
Yeah. I’m a woman and yeah I’m better at so many things then my male friends but they are better then me at so many other things. We are biologically different.
The part that shocked me was she tried so hard he cant have kids and even then didnt reach the level of a man. Good for her in standing for her beliefs and joining but thats one hell of a sacrifice
Writing 'physically inferior' in the title is a good way of demonizing a logical argument and making it look like she said something vile when all she ever did was talk sense.
@@utkarshaggarwal1631 Writing the word 'inferior' makes it look like she's demeaning women when she's just stating facts. She never said women were INFERIOR, yet they used that keyword in the headline. That's an attempt to demonize her logic.
@ilum88 My point is, that she never used the word 'inferior', so putting it in the title and making it look like she was degrading women is a neat trick to make her look like a bad person here. She's stating facts.
@ilum88 Saying women as inferior is not about politically correct or not. It is wrong. Women produce Men when they are inferior how can they produce something 'superior'. Biological difference is there but saying things like inferior will only result in increased discrimination.
@Jamie Pritchard Computer and human beings are not same species. Computer architecture is different from human beings. They use transistors mainly. Brain of Women and Men are not that different. There maybe differences due to Sexual dimorphism but nothing substantial has been proven to say Men are superior to Women.
unspeakablyMenace Right, they get paid more! * Cough Cough * TWITCH * Cough Cough * Also there is no actual wage gap for doing the exact same job, it's just a myth.
The Russian's had it sorted in WWII. Chick's played vitally important back up supply, and medical roles. Occasionally, they were called up into combat to make up the numbers in pretty much all fields and areas of conflict on the Eastern Front. Those who fought did themselves and their nation proud. My fave group are, "The Night Witches." Anyhow, the issue here though is Women were essentially reservist's and the Russians were fighting a defensive war when it was, "all hands to the pump." So to speak. Utilizing women for offensive/combat infantry operations on the ground over men, simply for the sake of pleasing a few idiots, is a fucking dumb move. History has proven capable Women have important roles to fulfill in the military, but throwing them in the front line unnecessarily is a waste of skill's better used elsewhere.
The closest women on the Eastern Front had to experience combat was in limited roles, mainly support roles. Women would be snipers, logistical supply runners, or they would help load and launch artillery batteries. There was not much else to it.
@@abdullahakhtar9824 propaganda sure but you gotta admit their achievements. They wouldn't become a propaganda tool if they didn't do anything impressive. Most of those females are snipers and bomber pilots which are basically support role which fits. Because they didn't need as much physical strength as the frontline infantry.
For those who didn't actually get what she said: the bar was lowered to accommodate women, many women who compete with men in these specific areas suffer long-term physical problems because of such (it's brutal). In addition, because the bar was lowered, under-qualified men are also competing in realms they otherwise would not and are also suffering long term physical issues. The result, an operating force that is compromised from within because an all inclusive policy gave folks a false sense of empowerment; essentially catering to the lowest common denominator. If they raise the bar back to what it was in the 1980's, those who pass are qualified, regardless of gender. Reality, the cost associated to allow less than 1% of a group to participate isn't by any-means effective or viable and it's absurd to expect such... that's not discrimination, that's being mature and reasonable, focused on the greater good for all. Anyone who doesn't understand such has obviously led a very privileged life at the expense of others.
That captain is the only one in the conversation that knows what she’s saying. Semper Fi Captain. Men and Women are different. We’re supposed to be. Regardless of what the liberals think.
It's true, the military is not sexist, they are just PRACTICAL. This officer said it all. Women can't physically handle the same amount of rigor that a man can, but there ARE ways for them to serve in the military, just DIFFERENT ways.
+Brian Merritt If they are so "practical" then why hasn't the American military taken any new territory in the last few hundred years? It would be very practical to invade Canada or Mexico or a perhaps some of these Islands Nations.....but they don't: why is that? It's because the military has become completely subservient to the interests of the globalist bankers who are very practical in making sure the military does their dirty work for them; opening up markets which they want. So, yeah, if you are a bank or Warren Buffett, the American Military is super-practical, but otherwise not-so-much.
i am female and if i were military i would put myself to set the goals that the men have so i wouldn't f'n die. some woman can actually be as strong as the men but some just stay at their lower standards, i think they should have same requirements if anything, and woman should do more intense training or something. not completely excluded
I mean, genders can't be reversed here. It has to be a female reciting her experience as a female and how difficult it was. It's more a credible source than a man would say.
Went to war with women, got me shot, got several of my soldiers killed and continued to fail at their jobs and tasks time and time again. Was part of the training cadre of females getting branch qualified as infantry, continually failed the standard and we were forced to allow them to advance and graduate training. And these were hand picked females intended to “prove” women can do it. The best females weren’t even on par with the worst of the men who qualified as infantrymen. It’s a disgusting, disgusting ass game these politicians are playing.
As soon as female professional Athletes can beat the male Athletes in the same sport against each other then go ahead and join any combat MOS you like. There is a reason as to why even in fucking sports females do not play against males, but yet here we are discussion if a Male Infantry soldier should put his hands into a Female Infantry Soldier. Hint here, it has nothing to do with sexism and has alot to do with the physical abilities of both Genders. Or whats all the schoolsport about? When boys have to throw nearly twice as far as girls to get the same fucking grade. Oh the boy finished 3 minutes faster then this girl here? Too bad, she gets an A and he gets a B. But go ahead and lecture me about how females are perfectly fit to join a Combat MOS. And whilst we are at it, why not draft females into the military aswell?
I agree with you on the majority of what you stated, usually men do preform better in sports than women, with some exceptions. The first Man vs Woman boxing match that I have been able to find, the woman (Helen Hildreth) was winning the match, up until it was stopped by Fred Wenck, a boxing commissioner at the time. Each case is different, but sadly, it seems women do get it easier due to just being women. Sucks, but this is our modern society for you
+glprime2814 Nah to be honest women having it easier is a very primitive look at male-female relationships. I mean, in animal instinct, it's the first notion we get that the females need to be protected... So it's not modern at all :P
If you take a female boxer and put her against a guy of equal skill...she will get murdered...absolutely murdered...the only time a female can compete against a man, is if she is extremely well trained and he isn't...did you happen to see the video, I forget her name...she is the greatest female boxer of all time...she got into muay tai...she went against a guy, that she outweighed and he was pretty much an amateur...he ko'd her in 1 round...knocked her out cold...took like 10 minutes for her to regain consciousness....this is why the olympic womens hockey team(the best females) practice with male high school kids...this is why, a male high school basket ball team could destroy the best WNBA team on the planet...easily....
LoL, go back to the 1950s. The Soviet Union had over 1 000 000 troops that were female. Ca 100 000 were combat troops. The Nazis did not, had super conservative views on gender roles and a shit ton of other far right wing negatives one often see on sources like Fox News, but who won? LoL, this notion that female soldiers weaken the military is nonsense.
@@Lobos222 you are delusional if you believe a woman with military training can beat and kill a man with the same training, this isn't the movies we are built differently for a thousands of years of reasons. Funny you bring up politics in a war that was lost on strategy and logistics... Study your history with the perspective of wanting to know what happened instead of wishing it where they way you want.
@@cal5444 LoL, you wimps are hilarious. The irony of you trying to lecture an exMil shock trooper sergeant which is educated to teach others on a load range of weapon platforms and front line warfare tactics. Which also have trained both men when women to be bunker busting, trench clearing, building clearing soldiers etc etc. Is LAUGHABLE! Hahahahaha, this isnt the medieval ages anymore. People dont go into war with swords and bow, you fucking daff neanderthal. Study history, you say. While totally ignoring I pointed out the the war which the most females ever took part in active combat roles. While you parrot tropes that are more ideological based because you think the women place is in the kitchen or something. First its women weaken the military, but when that is counter with facts then suddenly its "logistics". LoL, fuck you and your convenient moving of the goalpost BS.
