This is why you don't a debate a Jahil nobody, no manners, slander, false accusations, projecting insecurities, deflecting and pivoting instead of answering questions.
@@nicoletteferragamo Jazak Allahu khayr sister, this is even if it's a sister (but she seems to follow some hard sufi or shia bida) but she needed a brotherly lesson, to follow sunna, but she should of been humble.
From my take, I don't think she's a feminist. And education is not unlawful. Shaykh Al-Albaani رحمه الله said: فلا ينبغي للآباء أن يحرموا بناتهم من تعلمها ؛ شريطة العناية بتربيتهن على الأخلاق الإسلامية ، كما هو الواجب عليهم بالنسبة لأولادهم الذكور أيضاً ؛ فلا فرق في هذا بين الذكور والإناث "...It is not appropriate for parents to deprive their daughters of education, on condition that they take care to raise them with Islamic attitudes, as is obligatory upon them with regard to their sons also. There is no differentiation in this regard between males and females. والأصل في ذلك أن كل ما يجب للذكور وجب للإناث ، وما يجوز لهم جاز لهن ، ولا فرق ؛ كما يشير إلى ذلك قوله صلى الله عليه وسلم The basic principle in this regard is that everything that is required with regard to males is also required with regard to females, and what is permissible for males is permissible for females, with no differentiation, as is indicated by the words of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم: إنما النساء شقائق الرجال “Women are the counterparts of men.” [ad-Daarimi and others]. فلا يجوز التفريق إلا بنص يدل عليه So it is not permissible to differentiate except on the basis of a text to that effect." [Silsilat al-Ahaadeeth as-Saheehah (1/347)] Rather what this is about is living as a minority among non-Muslims and the dangers of their institutions. 1. That's why we need a Sunni Muslim western online simulation and training government website and app. 2. The Mosques and communities are going to be listed, and everyone is linked to his/her community. And you'll have an online citizenship. Only Mosques and communities upon Tawhid and are Sunni and from the Ahlul Qibla. 3. All the knowledge, both Islamic and worldly knowledge are listed. This sister is a mechanical engineer, and she could candidate for the mechanical engineer ministry position if she passes the exams required for it, and her peers in that field appoint her through the Ahlul Halli wal-'Aqd system. 4. The Ahlul Halli wal-'Aqd system is going to be in place. No democracy and mob rule voting. The rulership is for the men, but any other ministry post of knowledge, then our sisters could take part in it. So that people are not only interested in politics and governance. Now, I'm just giving an example of how it might work. I live in Sweden by the way. But let's take the New York Muslims as an example. And let's divide their state into 20 districts. And every district has 20 member Mosques. 1. The ministry of education in Islamic sciences and worldly knowledge will put up the exams for being a candidate. No one will get any position of authority by way of fame, or TV ads, or cronyism, nepotism or how wealthy he is. The criterias to candidate will be knowledge, integrity and Dhabt (accuracy), and being a practicing Muslim who has the appearance of the Sunnah upon him. And everyone has the chance for that. And it is just. 2. So let's say 20 men passed the exams. That's where every Mukallif both male and female have appointing rights, to appoint 6 out of those 20 as the Ahlul Halli of their Mosque. 3. And that's where it ends for the masses. 4. Those 6 will appoint 1 as the Ameer and the Ameer picks 1 from those 6 as his deputy. 5. Once all the Mosques in district 1 did that, you'll have the first Majlis and Shura assembly. It will consists of all the 20 leaders from all the other Mosques in district 1. 6. So you have an assembly of 20, an Ahlul Halli of 6, and 1 Ameer and his deputy. 7. Once all the districts have done that, then the leaders therein will sit in the New York state Majlis and Shura. 8. Then when the 50 states have done the same process, their national Ameer will go to the highest assembly. 9. And the highest level is the international Majlis and Shura, where all the Sunni Muslim leaders of the west sit. And the same process will be done with all the knowledge, both Islamic and worldly. Exams, 'Adalah, Dhabt, being a practicing Muslim and upon the Sunnah. This we will become a nation of knowledge. The incentive will always be knowledge. So if Safiyyah here was appointed as the minister of mechanical engineering, then the Ameer could appoint her as part of his cabinet as he will pick the cabinet from where he sees fit. If not the Ameer, then the national, or state, or district level of Ameers and can pick her as part of their cabinets. This way all the knowledge will be listed, and all the communities will know one another, and what is missing in profession and knowledge will be known, who is homeless, in need of marriage, legal help etc and money will be more organized and the institutions where our sisters could safely seek education could emerge, or a security team that provided an an entourage for them at the institutions of the non-Muslims so that debates like these do not need to even appear, nor do our noble sisters need to worry about such trials ever existing, and also a ministry of marriage that facilitates it. The issue is about organizing and managing.
DH I have asked MDD many times to arrange a debate between me and you but you have never answered. I'd like to prove that you have zero knowledge of Islam. I am writing you from a different channel because RU-vid censur my comments. My channel is The Perfect Dawah. Please contact me and arrange a debate. All extremists are afraid of me including Apostate Prophet. I hope you are not.
Feminism is domestic plan of colonists after tech removed profits switched farm to inflating debt slavery of central banks from colored to all ppl, & stop male leaders & family w/ Zeana sins & drugs & creating hierarchy with a yeahood lobby class over both!! ext. left is marxist. ext. right is for bigotry! Islam is middle path! Watch : *Aaron Russo on feminism* Also read about the bigotry of early feminist to attack minority families, its always the same. They survive with tyrant money and censorship as they aren't logical!
@Hidetaka Miyazaki I’ve heard plenty Muslims try to explain this embarrassment to no avail. What’s your preferred attempt at a refutation? Give it your best shot. Allah says it’s your duty to educate this poor infidel.
@@statixlaw5675 so from that perspective the sun not only travels but it sets on the Earth near a people in some water? Also what does Alexander the great have to do with Islam?
I’m born and living in UAE and the fact that she says people here are illiterate is outrageous 🤣🤦🏻♂️ I can’t believe she’s lying and actually accusing you with all these bad labels just in order to prove her point! May Allah guide her
I studied you Daniel for one year 😆 imagine all the family time she had to sacrifice. That's if feminist have families 😂 even after 1 year of study she still lost miserably 😂😂😂
@@islamicreminders3090 Define Patriarchy - Daniel Haqiqatjou Legends say, Sabreen - still finding a definition of Patriarchy thar suits her agenda lol. Cat food - legend Daniel. 💥 🔥 🔥
She studied him for a year doesn't mean she didn't study islam. Umm Salama(ra): Why are women not mentioned in Quran like men are? Daniel fanbois be like: ah you feminist 😡, your speech says everything.
Well you’re wrong , that’s a problem with the institution but education in and of itself is not a problem. Nothing good about being illiterate or uninformed about the natural sciences /or history.
@@Lastofusfan777 you should be educated yes but lets not pretend women are getting phd's in science or law or engineering to raise children, I myself don't really use any of that in my day to day life and wish I had learnt something that would actually benefit me , the universities right now are useless, we need a better system to get education
@@NormalPersonIhope it’s good to be well rounded, not every woman needs a phd in chemistry I get that but people in general not just women, men and women need to be educated. I say this because I am in Egypt now and some men and women don’t even know how to read and write and they’re so sad about this. But literally Harvard graduates are talking about yeah education is bs blah blah blah. They just haven’t seen the other side. We shouldn’t take a black or white opinion on the matter, balance & moderation is important.
It is indoctrination, yet you recognise any Muslim brother with such a degree, and then on the back of it, you now agree with bro. Daniel, who apparently believes that women shouldn't be educated based on his definition of "education" and what it MAY lead to.
That lady doesnt even know what debate is. Throughout the video she was offtopic, and just read the slides that she brought up like a boring teacher in college. It was too much cringe too watch actually, and I pray to Allah to give patience and sabr for the Daniel bro and his family. Keep up brother. Big respect from Uzbekistan
ive regret goin to uni and waste 5 yrs of my life studying for nothing basically.. as i am now a fulltime mother, submissive wife and trying to be the best i can for my family.. if i can turn back the time,i would have studied islam instead and not care about getting a diploma..but growing up and raised by my chinese family is impossible..i can earn good money if i wanted to,but ive chose to be a wife,a mother and to stay at home than chasing dunya..for the best place for women is inside her home and not being seen by men ..quran and sunnah is there to protect women,a guide to have a successful life fid dunya wal akhira and not to harm us .i dont know how can people reject this and ignore there roles in islam..i dont know why would they want to chase this dunya which is temporary and offering them nothing but hellfire.. may Allah swt guide us all and make us among His righteous slaves ameen..
@@heythere9554 If you weren't listening Daniel was against the entire western education system. Diploma, Phd falls under this category. If you can implement an Islamic education system, women can have their education as long as they like, because that system itself would prioritize family over one's own wants. It's the kind of education system that doesn't exist, thanks to secularization of the Muslim society.
nothing compares being a good house wife and a mother than having a degree or career..serving your family and attending to there needs, for me that is a true pleasure and happiness ..as i know my purpose and know my roles..my husband for me is either my jannah or jahannam and i acknowledge his authority over me,i wouldnt dare disobey him unless he would ask something that is not permissible but Alhamdulillah as Allah swt have bless me with someone who is practicing his deen and wants nothing but good for me and my deen..
@@zenebusman8575 I don’t think You're a women. Btw education is needed bc without education a women is lost in this world. She can't work, she can't do nothing by her self. Forget about a career. Even for being a house wife women need education.. As a Astrophysicist i don’t want my wife to be a con women who can't even decides for her self. A educated man don’t want to marry a brick wall. I need a women who is computable with my standards. without education you can't even communicate with people. As a women You're giving up ur Islamic rights of education.
I feel sorry for her husband. She is not too bright, very annoying, gets too emotional and nonsense keeps coming out of her mouth all the time. Probably can't cook and clean. She hasn't addressed any of points Daniel made. She just proved that feminism is stupid 🤦🏻♂️
@@MCXM111 i feel sorry for muslim women can't experience beaches amusement parks water parks prob don't even know what an orgasm is seeing they can't say no to their men's needs sounds more like a slave than a queen
Holding a discussion with Muslims about Islam is flawed in the first place since Muslims will always defend their religious beliefs no matter if the facts are in their favor or not since they only believe what is written in their holy book.
@@aliah8330 Go and check her channel then and see if anyone agrees with her stance. Lol! Even Non-Muslims didn't came up to support her. It was that sorta embarrassing debate for her.
@@aliah8330 She posted the video on her channel. This debate was announced weeks before. Every Islamophobe knew it lol. It's good to defend her embarrassment but you shouldn't stretch it that much.
Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal رحمه الله mentioned “Do not uncritically follow me, nor Malik, nor Al-Thawri, nor Al-Awza’i. Rather, take from where they took.” Source: Jāmiʻ Bayān al-ʻIlm wa Faḍlihi 1299 عن ابن عبد البر قال أحمد بن حنبل رحمه الله رَأْيُ الأَوْزَاعِيِّ وَرَأْيُ مَالِكٍ وَرَأْيُ سُفْيَانَ كُلُّهُ رَأَيٌ وَهُوَ عِنْدِي سَوَاءٌ وَإِنَّمَا الْحُجَّةُ فِي الآثَارِ وفي رواية أخرى قال لَا تُقَلِّدْنِي وَلَا تُقَلِّدْ مَالِكًا وَلَا الثَّوْرِيَّ وَلَا الْأَوْزَاعِيَّ وَخُذْ مِنْ حَيْثُ أَخَذُوا 1299 جامع بيان العلم وفضله لابن عبد البر
Daniel: What's the definition of Patriarchy? Catwoman: Who cares? Daniel: Then how could you define it wrong according to the Islamic context? Catwoman: Let's not talk about that. Goes on, Post memes. *Sums up the debate*
@@boygenius538_8 advocating for marriage =/= this person is bad because they're not married. Many married people are vile and hold abhorrent views. It has nothing to do with marriage. @Ukash Jeilani is just discriminating and bullying people. What he's even insinuating between the lines is that a man will check her and not let her share her views this freely. He's not a good person, and stigmatization of non-married people is definitely not good whether you're a huge marriage advocate or lenient. Either way @Ukash Jeilani does not look good here.
*Timestamps:* 0:00 - Introduction 0:31 - Format of the Debate 1:47 - Sorting out Saffiyah's Audio 7:53 - Opening statement from Saffiyah 19:36 - Opening statement from Daniel 32:46 - 5 minute response from Saffiyah 38:32 - 5 minute response from Daniel 44:27 - Daniel using only America's statistics 46:14 - Saffiyah's Objections to Daniel's Fitnah Arguments 49:46 - Daniel's critique of Muslim Women needing to go Universities 53:17 - The example of Muhammad ﷺ teaching women 54:45 - History of women in Madarsas 55:45 - Saffiyah's response to Daniel's arguments 1:00:21 - Daniel's response to Saffiyah's allegations 1:01:28 - Lack of citations of large presence of Women in the Madarsas 1:03:39 - Challenges to Studying Islam in Pre-Modern times 1:04:55 - Segregation of Sexes in Islam 1:06:41 - Historical accounts of education of women, their Segregation & traveling 1:08:11 - Saffiyah's response to Daniel's Fertility argument 1:11:03 - Saffiyah's response to Lower Marriage Value Women 1:14:04 - Daniel's response to Saffiyah's arguments 1:16:10 - Daniel explains the Lower Marriage Value Women & Islamic view of suitable spouse 1:20:41 - Saffiyah's response to Daniel's arguments 1:23:03 - Saffiyah's critique of Daniel's Article 1:25:36 - Saffiyah's response to Daniel's argument of Gender Inclusive language 1:27:02 - Daniel's response to Saffiyah's accusations 1:27:45 - Daniel explains the Dropping Fertility & Marriage Rates among Muslim Women 1:29:17 - Daniel's response to Saffiyah's arguments 1:32:04 - Saffiyah drops out & Daniel addresses the chat 1:33:16 - Daniel explains the problems with Feminism & the beauty of Islamic model of life 1:39:24 - Saffiyah joins again & deciding the way forward of the debate 1:40:27 - Saffiyah studying about Daniel for one year 1:41:27 - Saffiyah's critique of Daniel's views on Feminism & his work 1:43:33 - Saffiyah claims that Daniel is a Men's Rights Activist & a R*pe Apologist 1:48:23 - Daniel's response to Saffiyah's accusations 1:49:57 - Saffiyah & Daniel discuss Patriarchy vs Qawwamah in Islam 1:56:31 - Saffiyah slanders Daniel 1:57:18 - Saffiyah's Closing Remarks 2:03:45 - Discussion on Saffiyah not being married & the problems of Late Marriages 2:08:09 - Saffiyah Rage quits the discussion 2:08:30 - Daniel scrutinizes the discussion & the Dangers of Feminism 2:10:10 - Daniel explains the managing of the need of Muslim Female Doctors in Islamic Societies 2:15:03 - The Cherry Picking & distorting of Islamic History by the Muslim Feminists 2:16:26 - Daniel's Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up SubhanAllah ❤️🤍💖 Very Informative & Insightful Discussion 👍🏻👌🏻 May Allah ﷻ guide the Ummah 🤲🏻
This man Daniel is such an inspiration, every single word of his in this video made me almost cry out of happiness because this is the type of person we need in our society,such an amazing individual may Allah grant him the highest rank in jannah.ameen
I'm honestly angry. The endless slander towards Daniel, prior the debate, during the debate and after the debate is sickening. Wallahi, I'm sick. As a 20 year old female, I'm scared and I'm really really sad watching how Muslim women carry themselves these days. Why are we like this, even when provided with evidence especially from the Quran and Sunnah, we still shake our heads and nod to the western ideologies merely because it makes us feel empowered. Edit : I'm not against women going to university btw, there's nothing wrong with women gaining knowledge. Daniel's arguments is full of what ifs, it's all built around assumptions. She will be educated and arrogant, standard of man gets raised, she will become a feminist which is so stupid. I'm from a third world coutries girls here couldn't give less crap about feminism. This whole argument shouldn't revolve around religion. It's just a personal preference/opinion. To me it's a waste of time because I know what I'm gonna do. It could be good for others.
Asalam Aleiki, agreed, Islam answers. Quran said on virgin Mary, ibn is not like bint - we got to be honest on strength, weakness & when overlap as individuals. Nisa have wombs & go to fight & flight mode early so imams are men, caring helpers are nisa. she mixed need to work w/ nawafil edu., is single & lied w/o proof as Islam teaches! She only proved many points against her, plus she is deviant in using non proven science on Quran when even modern science method was made by a Muslim imitating Islam's value's on verifying info. This shows her misguidance in part and inferiority complex, she needs to learn values! May Allah guide us to follow Islam's methods of verifying and presenting info, manners and being a community!
I didn't like the ending, but I confess to laughing, and the line was crossed from start to finish with the personal attacks and *especially* with the 9/11 comments. Completely inappropriate. BTW, I like cats too, so if she has one no need to feel bad 😞
Islam answers. Quran said on virgin Mary, ibn is not like bint - we got to be honest on strength, weakness & when overlap as individuals. Nisa have wombs & go to fight & flight mode early so imams are men, caring helpers are nisa. she mixed need to work w/ nawafil edu., is single & lied w/o proof as Islam teaches! She only proved many points against her, plus she is deviant in using non proven science on Quran when even modern science method was made by a Muslim imitating Islam's value's on verifying info. This shows her misguidance in part and inferiority complex, she needs to learn values! May Allah guide us to follow Islam's methods of verifying and presenting info, manners and being a community!
Must watch for every sister and parent. As a sister, What I learned from this debate, as a summary, is that we sisters have to firstly stick to our priorities, our roles in Islam (I.e. family obligations). Everything else (talents, studies) comes secondary. By all means, pursue education (Islamic and non-Islamic) or maybe even career, if need be, as long as it doesn’t override our true priorities (raising families in a strong, stable Islamic background) and we don’t have to be in a constant mixed environment with the non-mahrams. As Brother Daniel said, we don’t have to go down the same lizard hole as the west to pursue an education, there are other possible means to achieve it. I hope I understood it, or at least some of it well. The feminist/Islamic clash can be very confusing. I just recognize my priorities, and imma stick to them, in sha Allah.
Man, watching all the disgusting remarks and personal attacks she made about Daniel made my blood boil, yet Daniel being calm and composed is truly praiseworthy. It's like she didn't come here for civil debate rather she had ill intent. She disregarded all the factual data presented by Daniel, while she showed nothing but whinging and attacking Daniel. The fact that she is a Muslim woman made this really sad. What our sisters are becoming! Thank you Denial for your great work. I'm a new subscriber and really loved what you do. I have binged watched all of your videos. It really changed my perspective on many things and Inshallah will make me a better Muslim. May Allah bless you and your family. May Allah guide this sister to the right path.
@@BoleDaPole brother these types of females do not deserve forgiveness, i mean Allah SWT is Rehman and Raheem but us as humans especially Muslims should not tolerate this kind of disgusting approach and behaviour which is creating a false image of how educated Muslim women engage in a debate. Forgiveness and acceptance has caused the situation to be worsened rather than understanding that if someone is trying to forgive you, the person should be grateful towards the forgiver, but instead we get these so called muslimahs like this woman here who are literally a walking definition of what ungratefulness is. May Allah SWT guide everyone who deserves to be guided.
I'm a highly educated muslim woman and let me tell you this; WE HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED. I remember after high school been sick and tired of school, and just wanting to take a break. But my mom basically told me that I would be a failure if I didn't go for higher education. Unfortunately I listened, and the irony is that it has taken me longer time than usual and I have yet not even finished. Also the job the degree leads to is not even something that I want to do (even though it pays well). I have in recent years realized that it's just unrealistic for women to have children, be career women and to be good wives to their husbands. At one point or another one has to compromise, and it's usually the family that is being neglected. Another thing that I've noticed is that a lot of women (both muslim and non muslim) who have children and who are working, seem to always be stressed. These type of women would also constantly complain and tell others how lucky they are for not being married. Because think about it how fair is it really that women are the ones bearing and nursing children, and on top of that are expected to do the same work as men in the work place.They are suppose to just forget that they pushed out a whole baby a few + months ago and come back to work? Like how does that even make sense?? Not to mention being on your period as a woman every month and the pain and discomfort associated with that. Reality is women face many challenges that men doesn't in the work place. And for some weird reason we're not considering those things at all when women are being pushed to work. So what feminism has done is to make women miserable and stressed because they simply can't do it all. My point with all this is that people shouldn't listen to all the nonsense about female empowerment. A lot of these feminists will probably end up miserable and bitter. Because the thing is men and women are built different, and that's what Islam takes into consideration unlike feminism. Hopefully more women realize this before it's too late. May Allah make it easy for us! Edit: To some of the comments; I have never said that women can't have hobbies etc. In fact if you're a stay at home wife for example you probably going to have more flexible time compared to if you're working. Moreover at the end of the day people can choose to do whatever they want to. If you feel like higher education is for you, then be my guest. I just wanted give my experiences as someone who has spent most of my twenties studying and working, and tell you just how stressful and depressing it really is (especially as a woman).
Like seriously people are stupid. My thought is that only one parent should work and the other should stay at home and take care of the kids but women are like "Noo we're oppressed!" Like ma'am, if you think this, then don't marry and start a family.
Ameen Sister Truth comes out no matter how hard they try. What you said is what brother Daniel ment throughout his video but somehow empowerment peeps just fail to comprehend. It is just so hypocritical of families to push for higher education for sisters when they also want them to leave the job in the end and be good wives. I would want sisters to pursue basic education enough to teach or homeschool her child and to spend her important time learning the deen and gaining Islamic knowledge which would help herself in the hereafter. May Allah سبحانه وتعالى protect us from hypocrites and May Allah سبحانه وتعالى give us all hidayat Ameen.
@@H.a.q.q Exactly it's very hypocritical. I also believe most women only need basic education, maybe up to high school . The focus should definitely be on learning about the deen and becoming good homemakers...
Women are NOT being pushed to WORK! I've only had high school graduation. I haven't worked a day in my life. IM A STAY AT HOME WIFE. MARRY SOMEONE THAT CAN FINANCIALLY TAKE CARE OF YOU.
This is one of the best debates I’ve ever seen. Daniel totally won, but I disagree with the way some people in the comments were insulting her, because at the end of the day she’s a Muslim sister.
@@juxtapositionMS Does she reject the Mi'raj entirely or does she have a different view of it? Like, does she think it was a vision or a dream or something?
I love my brother Daniel, wallah I love you brother, you’re Among the people, like sheikh Karim abuzaid, trying to guide the American muslim community out of the the mirage that was placed over their eyes of this so called Islam being propagated by the sheikhs of MISGUIDANCE. Wallah I love Daniel and sheikh Karim abuzaid, flag bearers of the sunnah
This is the type of women who would be a dictator type in mgmt, but highly disrespectful. Shes a extreamist feminist. I cant see many men marrying someone like her.
Ameen that's what feminist do ,insults,shame,sign language ,and the need to be rite ,,typical evry sister who where's jilbab,hijab,is not actually following the woman of first 3 generations of Muslims wa muslimat.
It's really hard to take someone who puts memes and crying emojis in a presentation seriously. I tried to be fair and take Safias points seriously but she was very unhinged and threw way too many strawmans. Her refusing to even define patriarchy is the straw that broke the camels back in terms of her credibility.
@@ibnahmad3149 😀😀 same here. she was unbearable for me. crap coming from islamophobes and illiterate non muslims is sickening, but it coming from illiterate muslims is just another level!
@@aliah8330 he didnt do the same thing except at the last part where he showed some google pics to her after accusing Daniel for having ties with 1s1s and saying Daniel have a 0 knowledge about Islam. Daniel tried to debate about the topic of debate but that girl was only focused on the career of Daniel and brought 0 sentence about topic.
1:53:00 - Sabreen made the WORSE case by quoting the ayah that talks about Men and Women being supporters to eachother. But wait, that's in terms of religion and good conducts. It doesn't talk about Women and their Husbands should be equalized in the leadership of the house. Cherry-picking led to mass delusion.
She cherry picks a handful of women and misrepresents them. She's a depressed feminist who couldn't answer when Daniel asked, "who is the head of the household in Islam?"
Lol not even that but she mispronounced the verse as Al-Mu’minaati instead of Al-Mu’minaatu several times.. couldn’t sit through that. [Surah Tawbah: 71]
More idiotic claims; She claimed for example the term Jihad does not mean Holy War according to Marriam Webster dictionary. The term jihad means struggle. Are we to believe that struggling in Holy War isn't part of Jihad? This is just one small example she is clueless about Islam, yet she has the audacity to criticise Daniel knowledge in Islam when she makes the most basic of errors. She just doesn't wish to call Jihad part of Holy War. Because she's trying to lie to Muslims and non Muslims through "Taqiya". The reason why they do this, because non Muslims have identify Islam and Jihad with Terrorism, and so rather then being brave to defend the faith and admit we believe to fight for God, in order to defend the faith, she rather throws Islam under the bus to wash down the term Jihad. Let me tell you another manipulation, she claims that by 2050, Muslims will outnumber Christians in the fertility rate department. She tried to use this as a example that Muslim fertility rate is not falling, however what this lady is not telling you, according to the PEW research one of the reasons why Islam will out number Christianity it's not just about fertility rates being higher, but the fact that a good chunk of Christians will "leave the faith". Which is a contributor to Islam surpassing Christianity. This debunks her claim, that the reason why Muslims will outnumber Christians is because of Muslim fertility expanding or getting greater, which is clearly not the case. Daniel debunked and destroyed her. I know this because I can tell from her physical reaction. You can tell she was uncomfortable, moving around not sitting still, rolling eyes, carrying on like a bully, ad-hominem attacks, she was like a hot kettle without a lid, telling Daniel ok are you finished are you finished, my turn. Like she had no interest to listen, cause she was so desperate to get to the memes and screen shots she collected, diverting and blatantly lying about the statistics, even after she was corrected, and when she was corrected, she was just moving on to a separate point. She's clearly, dishonest. And I'm glad it's all on video.
@@ummerfarooq5383 Why are men and women not equal? They ARE equal in value, regardless of their different duties. We should always make the distinction. Otherwise, bring me evidence from the Qur'an and Sunnah that women and men are not of the same value, that one is better than the other just for being a male or a female.
Some of her views are worse than feminists. She is advocating for women to be in the kitchen, take care of the family, and also advance her career. She wants women to be like a robot.
@@ahmadqazi2648 like all women with husbands and children are happy. The problem is not in being single. Its depression and emptiness in heart. Some people choose to fill a void with career and some choose with family and kids. Either of them can be unhappy. I would say I enjoy being single much more now and feel better connection to God as when I was married and had to take care of my ex husband and his bs, never had enough time and money to travel, read books, visit retreats and holy places.
@@lalita9041 That might be applicable for those with abusive husbands. Not all men are abusive husbands. And suppose there is a petty lover's-quarrel between spouses (no violence ofcourse), than that is not abuse.
She engaged in: - personal ad-hominems - straw-men -false middle ground fallacy -Texas-sharp shooter fallacy and constant interruptions on top of being disrespectful throughout the "debate" 🙄🙄🙄 [ If you're gonna do an analysis of this please address her misapprehension of your stance toward this post-modernist or liberal notion of "informed consent" - which is most likely where her confusion lies - and also the Shari'ah's punishment of rape - stranger or maritial - and the Tafseel in there, because she made mockery out of this crime and merely used it as "name drop"-material against you for shock value. ]
@@Muwahid999 These are logical fallacies, meaning errors in reasoning that are committed qhen making an argument. They have sometimes multiple names so you might be aware of them by a different name.
i'm sorry but the doctor argument is very weak. we don't just need ob/gyn for females. I am a female studying medicine in my clinical rotations. if a female goes to cardiologist she has to show her chest, if she goes to general surgeon he's gonna perform a rectal exam or a breast exam, if she goes to pulmonologist he's gonna do chest percussion and auscultation, an the list goes on. if you have to do a surgery at least 4 people will have to see you naked. we need to have a saturation of all females in terms of doctors/nurses/anesthesiologists.. that's the bare minimum. What about clothing shops? do you want your daughter to buy from a store where a man is watching her as she buys her clothes ? or is it better if a female was there? education (be it religious or primary)? do you want 30+ teenage girls to be around a man all day or woman ? who's gonna teach them what it's like to be a woman ? what about psychology and orphan shelters ? who's working there ? you're not considering all of the fields that we might need women in. maybe in the future when your wife or daughter needs those kinds of services and they don't find females to provide them (may Allah forbid) you'll understand what I mean
I now now 53 and wish that I never chased career. I wish I married when time was right. I am going to get my daughter married sooner rather then later and if she wants to study after marriage then she can
Through these debates Im learning more about islam..and a lot of the premisconceptions I had about it is starting to fade. Its incredibly interesting. Note: I fell out of faith 10 years ago(methodist christian) and only just started trying to find my way back to the light.
i was born a Muslim(Muslim by name only, didn't know anything other than basics of Islam) and because i didn't know anything about my own religion i kinda became an athiest until i learned more about how life works, science big bang, universe fine tuning and everything pointing to God as being the only logical and rational answer and then i went to the Quran and was Mind blown over how insane it is, the knowledge and wisdom found in it in unlike anything i have ever encountered before not to mention All the scientific miracles and the facts found in it that no man could have know a hundred years ago let alone 1400 years ago, No human can write such a book and it doesn't have a single error, everything stated in the Quran that we can verify is true and it still blows my mind every time i read it, more over i found that everything that Islam prescribes just genuinely seemed like the best solution for problems in life. Basically Islam is the best way of living and it makes sense, everything in Islam makes sense, there is no Question that came to my mind, that Islam didn't give a rational and logical answer for.
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21 Unique fingerprints (75:4) We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers. (Your fingerprints are different from those of everyone else on Earth. The whorls and ridges on your fingertips are determined partly by your genetic makeup. No one on Earth has the same fingerprints) 22 ocean meets river ( 25:53 ) And it is Allah Who has let free the two seas (kinds of water, Ocean and River), one palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter, and Allah set a barrier and a complete partition between them. ocean meets river (55:19) He released the two seas, meeting [side by side].Between them is a barrier [so] neither of them transgresses.
@Go Transcrie thank you for this. It was indeed eye opening. My whole life I was taught Jesus is the son of god. I strayed away because some things didnt make sense, and because of searching for help in the church during crisis (I was suicidal) only to be shunned instead of helped. I dont blame god or jesus for that..I blame the pastor. I held a lot of anger in me towards the church and how corrupt it became...and even to this day refuse to go back. Islam has definitely caught my interest though. Theres a pureness to it, warmth and love that I feel from it that feels genuine. I used to feel that with the church when I was a kid, but as I grew I saw how corrupt the whole system is there, and how people twisted the word of god to fit their narrative. It felt broken. Im definitely going to look more into islam. How would one go about learning more?
This girl was lost very badly, pls Daniel don't debate to these egoistic people, we want to learn something from debates, but she wasted our time, life will be better if she married on time, or atleast if not married then if she persued the right education then debate could be great ,May allah guide her and increase her IQ and her understanding to learn things with context
she lies shows her arrogance and inferiority complex... this is why leadership is for men, nisa are insecure... she mix up need to work w/ education too... she even lies Quran teaches multiverse, why inferiority comp. arrogance! she shouldn't speak in public but learn values.
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She didn't even study Daniel , I don't know what the heck she was doing anyway ,talked a lot about herself as well (which is meh.. ok whatever) but slandering someone you agreed to debate is just low
My wife is a Spanish/Mexican national. She studied her higher studies in Canada. All her life she was pushed to do more by her secular family. She finally found Islam and so happily converted. She and I work from home. She is helping me create Islamic content in Spanish Language. She is so happy that she is not part of the rat race for this dunya anymore. Being a Pakistani living in the west, I can quote hundreds of such women who are refusing to the western model of "education". This women in the debate has absolutely no idea what she is talking about.
I totally agree with brother Daniel Haqiqatjou ... I concentrated on my education and career i got married at the age of 27 I'm now 47 and I'm divorced and childless. Alhumdhulillah I will be getting remarried but my feminist traits got me to where I am ... When I hit 30 years old I realized how dangerous how harmful and how my western ideology has robbed me and I'm to blame too. May Allah SWT forgive me for my jahilliyah .... SISTERS I BEG YOU MARRY YOUNG AND HAVE CHILDREN YOUNG ... AND OBEY YOUR HUSBAND You can study at home too and be successful in running a homebase business once your children are older ... FEMINISM IS TOXIC IT'S DANGEROUS AND WAS PUT TOGETHER IN INSTITUTIONS RUN BY ROCKEFELLER AND TAVISTOCK AND CIA OPERATIVES CARRYING OUT EXPERIMENTS ON THE PUBLIC.
I'm from Mauritania 🇲🇷 Even here marriages are done a lot later than it was done just a decade ago. Mainly because a lot of young men and women prioritize university to getting married. So it's not just an American issue. As brother Daniel said the Muslim world imported the western educational model. Which came with issues that we and the next generations will have to deal with.
so that's the Western education system. what does that have to do with education in general. there can't be an Islamic education system that also encourages female education. this is a dumb argument by Daniel.
@@axch2983 what is dumb is throwing words thinking they make sense in reality you’re just complaining and have no solution to anything, and I mean how can you don’t even understand the problem
I'm a muslim women in my final year studying Architectural Engineering. I was pressured by my family and society to go into higher education without really grasping the reality of the journey ahead. The system of higher education is designed for you to feel constantly stressed while simultaneously not learning much at all. It was only by my third year that I actually started to learn any valuable engineered skills, and by that time, I had already wasted so much of my time and energy learning abstract ideas that I could never really utilize in my day to day life. Most women (muslim and non muslim) in this major complain about the work load and struggle more in comparison to our male colleagues, all while not having to raise a family. This is because it goes against our nature of working/thinking like a man for long periods. The higher education model, especially in the field of engineering, does not benefit women in the long run. It does not prepare her for raising children, managing a house, cooking meals, etc. These are skills that are NEEDED to raise the next generation of healthy Muslims. But when that is lacking, and all you have is a degree in a field that is designed to make a women feel constantly exhausted, then you know that it's a failed system.
As a father who advocates for daughters to study and have knowledge on both spiritual and material. I come to realise the inherent problem with high level of education for women specifically to gain material wealth. The chasing of status can truly be addictive causing most women to delay marriage, as they find it harder to find someone who can be above them in the status game, due to this, family values and having children take the back seat. Motherhood is nowadays look at with disdain.
No matter what a man does for a living his status is still above a woman though , like women naturally chasing higher status men it’s too general , it’s a reality amongst bad women only
@@themercifulguard3971 not really that goes for whores only. Honourable women don’t care for fame and status . They are attracted by manners , heart and personality . Prophet ﷺ wasn’t famous nor he came from a high social status .While higher income is relatively true but that’s because they think about the safety and well being of potential children
This was really a debate between Rationalism (Daniel) Vs Emotionalism (Saffiya) The marriage vetting question at the end was JOKES I couldn't stop laughing :) Also, she should repent for the slanders she made and the inventions she produced. She's honestly a joke and trying ridiculously hard to disguise herself as something else other than a feminist. It's sad that we have such l in leeches' community, unfortunately, and ergo another reason some brothers are finding it hard to find practicing Muslim women to get married to. Furthermore, they have a whole group where they learn this agenda from shocking honestly When you cannot debate rationally like Daniel did you have to resort to phycophanny tactics like this clown Sayyifah had too i.e. interruptions after interruptions? On a serious note, if she claims she cares about our brother Daniel why would she mention things to put her life in danger which as a result would have consequences on his wife and kids? clearly, she cares about her agenda more. Daniel Thanks for this well needed.
@Ummer Farooq You're doing exactly what Safiyyah was doing during the whole debate "Making Claims without substanting objectively" again Rationalism vs Emotionalism
Both my parents gave us right to go to college and university and become educated and get a degree. I'm glad they did. I worked as a psychiatrist for children and adolescents and than female ward. I saw many Muslim patients and I felt like I was making a difference, not just working to earn money. I wasn't married. It was fulfilling for me. However after I married, especially once I had my first child, they became my priority. Motherhood was first. Mh husband has the financial responsibility and I am homemaker. Do I miss work? Sometimes yes as I want to help people, I enjoyed my job. There many people saying women never enjoy work but I did. But I know my priorities. Kids and husband come first. Once kids are grown in sha Allah I would like to go back to my field of speciality,if my husband allows. I remember once meeting a Muslim patient ans she telling me how glad she was to meet another muslim doctor as she felt more comfortable talking to me. Nothing wrong with getting education and using it with good intentions. Just don't let it interfere with primary responsibilities.
The problem is that they sacrifice even their beliefs for the sake of so called higher education. They ignore their lord’s order, their life’s priority and easily get distracted from their main responsibilities just to be called an independent and educated woman.
But daniel is trying to lock woman inside houses and cover them with black veil in order to satisfy his ego not because of religion . Women back in the prophet's Era were working !! So why not now !!
Me and my wife watched the debate , literally we r crying because we became the victim of this female careerism , being busy with completing degrees we married late now we r running from one hospital to another for conception....
Very sad, I watched too with wife she was laughing but then it turned very sad because this is so bad for Islam, these women are not innocent they want to change Islam, they want to push their own interpretation and distorted corrupted view, may Allah guide her I guess it's all I can say but these women are not unaware of what they are doing, they are looking to make women over men
@@botbeamer she follows people like Hamza Yusuf and NAK and Imran Hosein as her Sheikhs. This is where the confusion stems from I guess. They are trying to mix and match Western ideas with Islam when Islam is self sufficient if we focus in Aqeedah first. She tries to be consistent I believe which is impossible with her beliefs, but probably she has not noticed that yet or doesn’t want to see it
Sorry to hear that my brother, may Allah swt ease your burdens, if not now, then in the hereafter. I was crying too, but from laughter because Daniel is so funny towards the end.
Assalammualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu. Jazakallahu khair brother Daniel for his good effort in explaining Allahhumma barik. I am a Chinese revert converted into islam together with my Chinese husband in year 2020 الحمد الله after researching about islam together for few years after married. Allah guides whom He wills سبحان الله we always get to see the best of islam and came to an agreement that Islam is undeniably the best guidance for us all mankind and we would like to embrace islam completely إن شاء الله "O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. (Quran 2;208)" We both came from secular education background, given we met in university seeking secular education and “fall” in love, then we got married 3 years before we converted into islam. We are the only child at home so we grow up in get-all-we-want environment. Despite the “good” life we have, we were never content, and the narcissist in us, thinking we are always “superior” because of the “education level” we had. Until we found islam, to realise if the blessings we had is only make us arrogant (like the syaitan) then it is not blessings but only calamities. Last few weeks, my family visited us, and finally meeting after 2 years of lockdown, we announced to them our conversion. I am not surprised, my mom responded: "what is the point of you studying so high all these years to just became muslim?!" After knwing I wear complete hijab, she even said the "modern" Muslim no longer cover their head...just so, she asked me to do the same..I insisted on my hijab, and she stopped contacting me. A relationship that is not based for the sake of Allah, super fragile. And after knowing that I decided to be a stay-home wife, preparing to give birth to a muslim children and homeschool them إن شاء الله she showed me a face of disgust.. My mom is a “modern” mom, feminist, and have been working all her life. I don’t remember having memory of her spending time with me growing up, but only my teachers and friends, who now no longer with me because of each responsibilities in life. I answered her: While my husband is out there putting a fight with the world to bring food on the table for our family, I will not leave my lonely children to school by going to work, letting the teachers in the school to hug and guide them, while them having a mom- a muslim mother. My mom was laughing at my thoughts and looking at my dad as if it was a shame to be a mom. My mom mentioned she can get all she wants because she is independent, without the need to depend on my father. One more point, I grow up thinking my father is useless because mom is independent and she is strong to get what she wants..And this is the last thing I want my children to think of their father. Naudhubillah Islam changed my husband and my life..الحمد الله. He no longer jealous of me having lunch with my male colleagues in the mixed environment, or me out-performed him because my male employer prefered my work than the other male colleagues or me being the party butterfly and not home all day…I am at home now, seeking ilm to equip myself to be the first school for my children إن شاء الله, while my hero, my husband working to provide the best home for our small family.. إن شاء الله I don’t know what is the good being “empowered” woman, but if being one means to be an arrogant one, or to stay away from home while Allah commanded us to be good mom and wife mixing around with many sexes (males, female, transgender) in the world of fitnah, slandering, showing off…then what is the point getting so called “education”, higher position, higher income, and to gain the wrath of Allah? Even though you see me inferior to you in wealth and offspring, perhaps my Lord will grant me ˹something˺ better than your garden, and send down upon your garden a thunderbolt from the sky, turning it into a barren waste. (Quran 18;39-40)
Almighty Allah loves you and guides you to the right and beautiful path of Islam...May He also shower you and family with His abundant and miraculous blessings in this world and the hereafter..Aameen Ya Rabb Alamin
Brother Daniel is right. It may not sound good for brainwashed modern people but it's a fact that empowerment off women is destroying families and communities. Hamdulillah for Islam and thanks to brother Daniel, for his courage and honesty in bringing true Islam cases.... proud of you my brother.....
Daniel is not exactly saying muslim women shouldn't be educated, he is saying if you are going to do education, don't make it a priority in your life. Make marriage and being the homemaker a priority as a woman. If you're gonna do education, do it with the correct intentions in the most halal way possible. Make sure you are trying your best to do maybe an online course/degree from home (not going to the university where it's mixed genders) while the food is cooking in the oven and the children are napping and once the house is clean for your husband to come home from a busy, stressful job to a peaceful home instead of a messy house. Your intentions shouldn't be that you are doing it to get some sort of security or independence or female empowerment. It's the husband/male relatives/the imam of the community it's the men who are supposed to provide security, money etc for women and children and we have to embrace and love and submit to the fact that Allah has made it so that we are supposed to be dependent upon men. Gender roles are real and we need to be following them based on Quran and Sunnah.
This is the fucking problem with Islam I can't believe how endoctrinated people are it makes me so angry to keep women in the house barefoot and pregnant
Except this is a fantasy. In the event a woman's husband dies/or divorces, the male relatives/community very rarely if not ever, support the woman. She becomes a dependent on the state. What does she do then? She could marry again, but again, I'm sure you know men very rarely will marry a widow/divorcee in these times. And the scenario you've given of a woman studying from home ,looking after children, the home AND cooking all herself is absolutely preposterous. She's a human being,not a robot. Think objectively, not of your own desires. Furthermore it is up to a husband and wife how they choose to run their household, no one else has the right to judge or speculate how they do so. Woman are not meant to be cooped up inside a home, this is how you end up with repressed men leading to all sorts of fitna. Lastly, it's very rare now that a man can run a household, and provide financial for his wife AND children, hence why unfortunately a second salary is needed. Not sure where you're based but in the west , especially the UK cost of living has had a disastrous effect on everyone. Allah hu alam
"men who are SUPPOSED to provide security, money etc for women and children". Thank goodness the women in my family all have jobs, otherwise they would never have been able to escape the domestic abuse by their men because they weren't doing what they were SUPPOSED to do, and cheating on their wives! Everyone should be able to earn some bread, you never know when times get tough. This privileged commentary on women not having to work only serves the elite class that doesn't have to worry if 1 person's income can pay for their child's diapers, food, and school fees. They should talk once they're homeless and hungry. I really don't want a person sitting in the safety of four walls and a ceiling in a crisp shirt to tell me what's good for me. And talking about marriage, it's from Allah, he destines people to get married at a certain time with a certain person. What should women do by then? Lean on their very old parents' meagre pensions when they should be helping them pay the bills? This is absurd.
I had a wife. She prioritized her work which wasn't paying that much bydaway than her family. Our son who was 1 year old by then, would cry the whole day for "mama" and she didn't care. When I asked her to quit for a couple of years until he joins school, it was the reason for our separation. So this lady, doesn't sure know what she's talking about.
@Felis Pardus i wish that was true, our kadhi just gazzetted shocking 300 divorces within a year in our town. These ladies are being misled and they are the only ones targetted by our education systems, tv programs and all publick talks.
A child need his or her mother, children need both parent, a mother need to be with her children, number one priority is our children, may Allah grant us the hiqma, undarstanding, what is pur priority is. Money will come and go, but a child, child hood never ever will come back, a child will not have the bond and love for thire parents.
She attack him and his family and the other guy attack his sister When Denials opponents face reality they turn it into personal attacks because the evidence doesn’t go in their favor
"I still have pregnancy dreams, waiting with vast joy for something that will never happen." - Germain Greer, one of the founding mothers of radical feminism. It was on point when Daniel pulled out those pictures of cats. In the end those unmarried women pet cats and dogs. It's just a coping mechanism.
I'm 23 and not married yet because I had to finance my home and now I've left my job and Alhamdulillah we have an alternate source of income. Had to quit because my mom is seriously unwell and requires close attention. In no way would I ever promote women to feel 'empowered' to work. The corporate stress is something even men find difficult to handle. I know how depressing it is and especially in my last days at work I felt this deep suffocation that only ended when I left. Alhamdulillah. I wanted to get married when I reach 18 but I'm unmarried for two reasons - couldn't find a practicing muslim man, 2ndly couldn't find anyone who will give me the liberty to look after my mom. Trust me, if I was married, my experiences at life would have been much easier to deal with. Men and women both need each other and have different gender roles. It doesn't take a GENIUS to understand that.
You're basically just describing an economics problem. The issue is, as you are experiencing, that you don't really have a choice about whether or not you need to provide for yourself in lieu of having someone who wants to provide for you. As such it must be possible for women (like men) to provide for themselves economically at least until it is feasible that they no longer need to. If you have no means to generate any income then you are *forced* to sell yourself into a marriage with whoever is willing to save you from your economic crisis. That economic force of distress creates unfulfilling marriages which exist out of economic necessities rather than any genuine desire for each other. Daniel can say it's all woke feminist post modernist marxist propaganda and throw in all the other buzz words he likes. But the fact of the matter is we all live under capitalism and if you want food in your stomach and a roof over your head you need to have the option to earn a living for yourself. If you want to give up your career once you've found a person you love because they want to provide for you, that's fine. But if women don't have the ability to earn an income while they find their husband then they are just forced into the first available option which Islam then prohibits them from leaving. That's a marriage based on economic necessity rather than anything genuine. That's the issue.
@@sockpastarock7082there is truth in this. These men want largely disempowered, economically suffocated women who will always be 'obedient' to them in return for 'financial security'. The remarkable thing is it appears, from the comments, that Muslim women WANT to be in that predicament.
Dear brother Daniel, I really love you for these debates you do which isn't easy with all the personal attacks on you. It's so hard for brothers these days to find non feminist sisters to marry. I pray you open more minds each day - amīn.
Subhanallah, you both are fundamentally failing in following the teachings of our prophet saw. Very painful to see this, may allah guide everyone. Brothers and sisters please watch videos and learn from mainstream imams such as Mufti Menk, Aseem Hakeem, Zakir Naik etc. Don't learn from people like this. It is very unislamic and very controversial to be having online Islamic debates. Also its not allowed to be interacting (even joking) with someone from the opposite gender, IT IS NOT ALLOWED.
MashAllah great job explaining this brother Daniel. I couldn’t agree more and I wish there was more content for traditional Muslim women out there. I am revert of 10 years married to a man from the Middle East. We both have 4 sisters. All of my sisters are in their late 20s-30s, have masters degrees and “good jobs” but they are all single (with a history of terrible partners and emotional damage from past relationships), on multiple psychiatric medications for depression and anxiety and are all unhealthy from a western diet. They don’t have religion and struggle every day with loneliness and will likely grow old alone with no children or stable life with a husband. After my parents are gone they will be lost and they likely won’t have a family of their own due to their reduced fertility and distaste for marriage. Out of five daughters I’m the only one married and currently expecting a child iA. I pray my family accepts Islam. On the other hand, two of my husband’s four sisters are happily married and have young babies of their own. They are much happier and emotionally mature and live a simple Islamic life. They finished high school and study Islamic sciences through womens groups at their local masjid. They raise their kids together and with the help of aunties and other women in the family. They are NEVER alone and always have family around. They don’t eat processed foods and are not overweight or suffering any major mental health issues. Yes they have less money and material wealth, less “freedom” and less education but they have way more fulfillment and contentment raising a family that no career or degree could fill. His other two sisters are studying at womens university (their majors are home and religious sciences) and hoping to get married soon. Personally I would prefer my daughters to have the latter life. I used to believe the feminist lie but since leaving school and work I’ve never been happier being a housewife. We need a movement of Muslim women (similar to the Christian “tradwife”/traditional femininity movements) that helps younger women connect to the their womanhood and to better understand their deen, their fertility, and the at-home feminine arts.
The trad movement is looked down upon, and it’s very small, so basically there is no turning back the wheel the empowerment narrative has already won. Besides the religion is clear on these things if anyone wants to know that is
To the Sister, If you disagree with someone, you shouldn't want to attack their humanity, call them a Terrorist and attach them nonsense labels. ☹️ Muslim Feminists are the worst.
After listening to sister Safiyyah, its now our duty as Muslim Brothers, fathers ands Sons to firstly educate ourself in matters of Deen and educate the woman of our societies as ignorance is at its peak. This made my sad to listen to sister trying so hard to justify the western doctrine. Allah guide her and me to Truth
She said at the beginning that she is an engineer Muslim woman who dedicated her life for her family. I expected her to be married. I was genuinely surprised that she wasn't after all of this family talk.
If the husband dies or cannot work, then who is responsible for taking care of the family? The wife? How can she take care of the family if she doesn't have a trade or education to do so? How can the mother teach her children if she does not have knowledge to share? How can she help her with her children's homework, if she has never studied the topic? A mother without an education will create an illiterate generation. Educate the mother and the next generation will be more educated than her generation.
There is a big difference between academic education and learning science . even in my own experience, what I learned on my own and outside of school or university, is much more and useful than what I learned elsewhere . nd for a good example the agendas that put pressure on education programs in the West Nowadays .and come ooon brother dont forget that we are in the age of technology, not the stone age . Also, in Islam , there are many family members who are obligated to support the widow .
This is nonsense-my mother only went as far as a high school diploma from Pakistan and she managed to raise 2 doctors, a pharmacist and an architect. We had no help with homework growing up whatsoever. I know plenty of successful people who came from similar humble working class backgrounds. What modern secular parents don't understand is that a mother is needed at home to teach her children manners and morals (something that is seriously lacking in Western homes today) and stable children usually grow up to be stable adults. If parents are expected to tutor their children academically at home its only a reflection of how poor the school system has become. Seeking an education or learning a skill/trade is a good thing for everyone but it's important to remember that the ultimate goal of gaining knowledge is to help you make good decisions in life. Your degree shouldnt reduce your existance to simply a cash cow, especially when wealth comes and goes by the will of Allah swt.
"If" the Husband dies, "If" he cannot work, Y'all keep talking about "ifs" 😂 What "if" the woman never gets a job? 😬😂 Is it 100% confirmed she will get a job? Did Allah promise her? Why are y'all so sure about women getting jobs as if Allah promised and so sure about the possibilities of Husbands dying or unable to work? Because it perfectly suits your agenda.
Im a muslim woman with absolutely no debate skills but as a former feminist, I think I would have been able to come up with better rebuttals. Unfortunately, most of her side of the "debate" was a cleaner version of "its not fair! how can you say that? Im so offended!". After being born and raised in the west, I had to ask myself one day why I had so many issues with Islam when I was in my 20s. It was because I was raised to not only think I was equal but also fulfill the same responsibilities as men in the outside world and all the responsibilities of traditional women at home. I felt that bc my muslim family left me with all the work that Islam was unfair, even though Allah never put that responsibility on us in the first place. It was only after I read the verse "the male is not like the female" in the Quran that I understood Allah never made us to be equal, we have different biologies therefore different responsibilities. Everything I learned for 25 years was a complete lie. Now that my heart has FULLY submitted to Allah's commandments, I no longer feel "less than" for our role as wives and mothers. We dont have equality or equal responsibility but we do have equal reward for the same deeds of fasting, salah, sadaqah, being kind to parents etc ... Our other works will be rewarded according to Allah's wisdom. Im so glad I left that feminist mentality that rotted my heart. Ladies, we need to accept that their is no cherry picking in submission, your heart either submits to Allahs commandments or it dosent. There is no partial submission. Our hearts will be questioned, our intentions will be examined. we can't escape our deeds on the day of judgement. Imagine showing up for reckoning thinking you have all these works that didn't count for anything bc you kept competing with men and left your role behind? How sad would it be that the same thing you were expecting reward for was something that Allah only wrote for men while your wife/mother rewards were left in the dust bc you filled your worldly life fighting submission? Dont sell yourself out. Ask Allah for understanding and study Islam. May Allah guide us all Ameen.
Sister, hear something from a male's perspective, you're going to be an excellent wife and a perfect mother, in sha Allah. Your role in the family is no less than what "your man" has to offer. Both men and women are superior to their counterparts. Depends on how we perceive things. Your "job" as a wife and a mother is going to be the BEST job in the world. Even your father and your future husband are going to be admitting it without skipping a beat. I have a slightly offtopic question here, Please ignore it if you don't feel like addressing it. I always bring this topic up to understand what different sisters think about the following opinion, _For most men, the positive masculinity (having superior protective power and taking care of a woman mentality) goes away when THEY empower themselves above the normal threshold (what feminists do). That sensitive, ladylike behavior is gone (some of the cases). Men feel weak in front of a woman to show their masculine side (I'm talking about the good men; not the vile, toxic ones). The status makes THEM more superior than their man._
Ameen sister. I’m a revert but I went through this exact same realization during my journey. I’m sorry to see my family fall victim to the same narrative. May Allah guide as all towards Islam. 🤲🏼
Men and women can attend separate schools and colleges. I'm not okay with male doctors touching women while checkups or treatment. It is not possible for all women to be housewives. And muslim women should choose their jobs wisely so that they do not violate Islamic rules.
I'm only 5 minutes in but how ironic is it that the topic is women's rights and then she immediately has technical problems and Daniel has to fix it for her. Sorry but that is hilarious 😂
He says there is no evidence that women should have equal access to education, but the Qur'aan always speaks of men and women in equal terms as the following verse exemplified, " believing men and believing women, sinful men and sinful women "..... The Qur'aan also says men and women are garments to one another, meaning that they have mutual understanding, respect for one another, when Qur'aan says and men are a degree above, this does not imply they can be tyrant over their wives, but this implies their responsibilities and duties towards their families financial needs. Having said that there is no restriction from Qur'aan or Sunnah to say women cannot work or provide financial help as well. In fact our Prophet ( s.a.w) wife Khadija was a business woman and our Prophet was her employee, before she proposed marriage to him. So things are not so black and white as he proposes to be. Aisha ( ra) received full education of hadith and fiq through our Prophet and went to become a highly renowned scholar of hadith and men used to come ask her advice on matters of Islam. It's his ideology then he should not try to make it into Islamic law, as there are no bases for it in the Qur'aan and Sunnah. Too much segregation can result in adverse affects and can backfire. Look what's happening in Saudi Arabia how a radical change is occurring and people are not even saying anything against it. We need to be moderate in everything we do. Trying to blame women education as reason for the Ummah failure is very narrow minded view, which carries non weight and shows the hidden desire of men to dominate women or subjugate them unfairly which is not at all coming from Qur'aan and Sunnah but rather from a pre-Islamic preseptive.
I feel so bad for the woman. Blatantly calling someone a liar or a terrorist without proof is slander which is a great sin in Islam. How pathetic do you have to be to attack someone's family and make false public accusations that endanger their life? Tbh she was worse than snaily or apuss or tawhidi (which I thought was impossible). Daniel showed great patience when he let her ramble on for like 20 mins.
and calling a sister a feminist is just as bad. i feel so bad for you. you should know that door swings both ways . if brother Daniel can accuse people then he should be ready for the same too.
@@MODEST500 Calling feminist a feminist. But calling Muslims terrorists is what western disbelievers do . West is the terrorist who bombed middle east and many Muslim countries but this munafiq feminists never condemned that
She came in with a script and followed the script without addressing Daniels points directly. She must of spent a year practicing in front of a mirror 🤣 for this debate. She couldn't follow basic logic and stats. Her behaviour throughout the debate was immature and disrespectful. Making faces and waving her arms. It was honestly sad on her part. I'm glad Daniel stayed composed and didn't let her personal attacks effect him. Her presentation was childlike. Who puts memes in a presentation? This was a joke to her. Overall it was a good debate and I enjoyed it a lot. I would love to see more of this. 🙏🏼👍🤲
its sickening how they try and warp the Qur'an and Sunnah to suit their needs. It's not only disgusting but openly stating that Allah Almighty and His Messenger got it wrong and that human conjecture like feminism is correct.
In this debate there is a lesson for us all. Not only has RU-vid recorded all the insults and slanders made in this debate with 356000 witnesses but so have the Horourable Angels. The record is permanent. On the Day of Judgment we all have defend what we have said about others?
She was the definition and product of western feminism. Education for women is important in Islam but not based on the ideologies, curriculums and goals of western education structures. But In all honesty, we Muslims at large have failed to come up with a different, compatible, and secure education system for our sisters. We can’t really blame all Muslim sisters when we haven’t really put forward any good alternatives.
This is exactly why I will have a separate women's only school and college for women who want to study without the danger of Fitnah. In Sha Allah. Studying in co-ed is really unsettling and people who can't accept that are just not being honest. We need better educational systems. That's the truth.
@@karfa92 This is same like grave worshippers saying they are not committing shirk. Shirk is Pagan concept, where pagan used to have no other way to worship. Think reasonably.
@@theintuitivetruth Not at all. Besides, we know the five pillars are called pillars for a reason, and the word "شرك" shirk is not something that we can determine. In fact we are not even allowed to call someone who claims to be muslim "مشرك" . Placing ourselves in the level of الله isn’t advised in any islamic school of thought. I’ve seen people among the comments and live chat calling the lady all disrespectful names, and since it’s the gentleman’s community, I thought that in any given moment he could actually tell the crowd to be more respectful of their Deen and stop shouting like a bunch of british drunk football supporters. لا حول ولا قوة الا بالله 😩
@@karfa92 What on earth are you talking about ?! Yes we can say someone is a مشرك based on the fact that Allah ﷻ has already determined what شرك is. So if she doesn't want to be identified as a Feminist that's her own problem because she is in fact a feminist. Furthermore, why didn't you mention the fact that she was slandering Daniel by saying he is affiliated with a terrorist organization ? Isn't that bad ? She is indeed a shameless feminist wearing a piece of garment on her head with make up on lol.
When some attacks his opponent - not their ideas on a debate - know that they have lost the argument. The sister lives in mars😂. As a man, my job is to protect and provide for my family and I thank Allah for blessing me with a true Muslim wife who puts family first. My advice to all single men out there, if you want a successful marriage and a strong Muslim family then look for a women that knows her deen and knows the importance of family. Thank you brother Daniel for reminding us the Sunnah.
The feminist woman was so embarrassing and evil, the people who follow their desires will do anything even if it means accusing their opponents of being related to “lSlS” out of desperation
give her some slack all of us would have done the same in her shoes. its not her, its indoctrination. we have all been raised with ideas that rasing kids and having a family is a weakness and going out in the world is the right thing to do.
@@paladinent1 "its not her, its indoctrination" That's one way to take away accountability....Still, if someone make mistakes we're going to call them out. How much "slack" should we give?
Whats the point of debating if she is not feminist? They use this usless opener "i am not feminist but..." to try making you change your mind about them. But they dont realize that we can detect feminists in 2 mins
What she is doing is cyber bullying, false accusations on you of grave nature, you should take legal action against her. How can she post on her Facebook that you are related to 1$IS, this is a serious offence and you should not ignore it!
While i understand where brother is coming from, i dont agree that women shouldnt pursure higher eductaion. It is important to have women in spaces like feminine products. It is also important to have women doctors as most men prefer to have a woman deliver their wife's baby.
As a women who grew up in UK from childhood, I had the freedom to choose what I wanted to do with my life. Prior to marriage, I was working full time but I chose to marry at the right age instead of pursuing with a high paid career or further education. After marriage, still carried on working as I was able to fulfill my duties as a housewife whilst working. When I had my children, I stopped working until they were older, then I started working part time so I was able to fulfill my duties as a mother and housewife aswell as still able to go to work. I have always tried to put my family first and adjusted myself to suit with the responsibilities as they changed! The point I am trying to make is not all women see it this way anymore. The modern women of today growing up in the western society as well as some Muslim countries forget their responsibilities as a wife, mother and housewife! They just want to gain a higher education (just for the sake of a certificate) or to earn money by scarificing their youth and marrying in an old age or neglecting their kids by leaving them in nurseries with strangers just so they can earn (and they wonder why their kids don't love them when they are older). There's others who delay marriage to study and then end up with boyfriends etc.... There's nothing wrong with working or studying as long as you can fulfill your duties to both your husband and your kids aswell as looking after one's own health. But when one can see they are slipping away from their duties, they should give up their study/job. In my opinion, women should marry as soon as they reached the age, but then can carry on with their studies even after marriage if they need to but without neglecting their duties as a wife/mother and by getting their husband's approval. May Allah guide all our Muslim women and men on the right path! I would like to add that I am not a perfect person nor a perfect role model! I have tried to put my family first and stayed within Islamic boundaries but on occasions even I made mistakes too, like not being able to cook food on time or serving late, but I had the support of my husband who helped out at times. Although he doesn't mind helping out, it did make me feel guilty and I tried my best to prevent this from happening again. Main thing is he knew I was not a feminist and how much I cared for my family.
Thank you for sharing this sister. I am not yet married but this is what I aspire to have one day. At most, I will probably work part-time or freelance at home while making my family the number one priority and dedicating most of my time raising Islamic minded children. May I ask, what does your day to day routine looked like and how did you balance part-time work with child-raising?
shalma ahad you do show an inclination to working a job whenever you got a chance. do you feel you would be better off not having to earn, to just be able to focus on being a wife and mother throughout?
@@anisahs2110 why is working part time/freelancing so important for you? do you feel you'll be valued less if you only are a wife and mother full time?
As a woman, I was very excited about this debate and had so much hope from this woman that I learned a lot and saw a new perspective. I couldn't hear her talk after 1 hour, a complete disappointment, I wish she had stayed factual.
He was attracted to and married an Harvard educated woman but hey sisters dont get an education sure. You will be judged for your crazy videos that dont represent islam whatsoever. You need therapy first of all before trying to make Islamic vids.
That's not the point of his argument. Education as he said is not the issue. The issue is women using education to empower themselves more than they are allowed by the Deen.
Here is a problem the title says should women go to college and haqiqatjou said should Muslim men and women have equal access to education. The lady is correct with the title " should men and women get equal access to education" but what haqiqatjou is saying fits with the title " is current environment in institutes are suitable for female students " he moved away from the actual topic, or he should have taken the education environment as a topic. Unfortunately the lady didn't noticed the actual problem and got triggered. Education is compulsory for every Muslim, end of the argument.
She lost this debate in the first 5 min, when she can't even fix her microphone. And when Daniel told her, it's because of your background (noise) she literally turned around to check her background. She's finished.
She did lose because of her acting up. She had a few good points, not gonna lie... but her way of lashing out is a rush of anger. My question is, what does a woman do when she is actually abused by her husband, and she is following the sunnah. Like how does one go about this.
Brothers & Sisters, I learned this from experience, women empowerment destroyed me, as someone who is young and really wanted to "go out there" and "show what I've got" because of this dangerous narrative of women being out in the society, I can completely say that I was tricked; I learned my lesson, and am happy I got the chance to correct things, that my natural abilities are meant to care and love my family, to be the comfort in the eyes of my future spouse, and that's not inferior, that's what you call curb your beauty...
People like you are the reason why islamophobia is rampant. Maybe we deserve it. Seeing all the backwards regressive people here is making me sick to my stomach.
I totally agree with you brother Daniel. I recently stopped working, I used to work for the council in a open office. Mixing and working with men, since I’ve left the team has a new manager, who is a practicing Muslim and openly gay. I’m still in contact with a few colleagues , they have to support people who want to change their sex etc.., the best thing I did was leave. The woman at work were having plastic surgery, their were affairs going on. I have a MA but it means absolutely nothing when I enter my grave
It’s such a shame the lady is not understanding the points Daniel is making. She is failing to see her inadequate responses. Unfortunately she doesn’t have enough intelligence to carry the debate in an objective manner.
@@khanofcaledonia6413 when I heard her accent at first, I just knew she wouldn’t be able to understand. I’m not taking sides here and I’ve listened to about 40 min and I will maybe finish this later.. maybe
@@khanofcaledonia6413 she didnt look terrible because of language or culture. You're insulting other cultures and language speakers by saying this and giving her an excuse. It's clear. Her and her buddies prepared for a debate and it wasnt this one. She was hard to watch and a waste of time . She just came to read.
That was like having teeth pulled. I made it half way. She presented nothing but personal attacks, essentially drowning out her own points, which were mild at best. This opened my eyes. Empowerment is questionable.
@@dreamer6432 I like Italian Sausage and dogs too much to become a Muslim. Something else, Islam is largely a religion composed of POCs. Being a White Muslim means turning ones back on their identity. It's like trying to fit a square peg into a circle.
@@elvistiso6275 man becoming slam doesn't mean u leaving ur own identity is just believing there one god or ALLAH nd his final messenger prophet muhamed nd follow his way of life that is simple
@AC I've known both practicing and non-practicing Muslims. One thing that was told to me, is that despite claims of equality that Arabs are on top of the pecking order. In large part, due to Arabic being the language of Islam. Khalid Muhammad for example, constantly complained about Arabs looking down on both American Blacks and Africans. I find myself in agreement with Muslims in the west, as they are willing to push back on "Skittles". Especially with "Skittles" being pushed in the schools.
I'm a female and I found sister Safiyyah's arguments to be weak. And all the people Daniel debates, cherry pick their points. Daniel has the truth on his side and you can't really debate that! Ma Sha Allah brother Daniel. I pray that you never lose sight of what you're doing like those compassionate Imams! Ameen
As salaamu alaikum My sister you mentioned that you can’t debate the truth however the people of misguidance will debate the truth. This is why you don’t give them a public platform to assist them in spreading their falsehood.
@@Caldwell1234 Wa Alaikum As Salaam my brother. I do understand what you are saying and I don't disagree with you, but only Daniel knows what he is doing. Someone with Daniel's intelligence and the way he articulates the message is sometimes what we need. Not everyone in the public platform should be doing that.
Not getting education just benefits men when they are stuck in abusive marriage it's hard to leave that marriage because they aren't financial stable to leave im so disgusted lol
