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loved the video man, brings back the memories of me PVP-ing as a feral. I was high rated(max rating was a bit below 2500 as feral/rogue) and i played 90% the same tactics as you show here in duels). Brings back the memories, even after 10 years of quitting i still remember the tactics, combos and the general feeling of feral pvp. Only thing i wanna add, try using restealth openers. Pounce-mangle-rake-shred-rip-cyclone-restealth. You do waste a few bleed procs, but you can wait in stealth for full energy and do another opener, while being full hp. Also faerie fire rogues as soon as u can, @ 6:00 noob gets a free restealth
Thanks! Hmm, i think that is a huge waste to Rip and go restealth. I mean you can use Bite instead and go Cyclone. My tactic and build were mainly about bleed dmg so i wasnt using Cyclone that much, but if enemies were better i would probably had to, since Cyclone is huge part of Feral gameplay! 💪
@@NibbaiWotlk Agreed with both of you "if enemies were better i would probably had to (cyclone)" This is especially true for more geared opponents. I have fond memories of nearly getting 1 shot by a guildie ret paladin in 1st phase, decked out in PVE gear. Feral is able to overpower players who don't know how to play, but it is also able to survive those that do know what they're doing.
I always saw some insane good players in warmane. I'm sitting at 3.5k gs and after practicing so much with this video, i was able to destroy a 4.5kgs dk, he wasnt good at all but i managet to keep track of his cds and it was all a breeze. Thank You SO much! My Cryclone dudu on Icecrown feels great now!
You should switch mangle to button 2. This way you can comfortably side step both left and right (good vs rogue) and keep the middle finger on 2 for mangle spam.
Hi. Those youtube recommendations pop out on top of your videos at the end, blocking the video. Can you make the end credit scene a few seconds longer, so that they block the end scene, not the fight? Thnx! \o/
Hi! Was just wondering why you aint using shred more like a combo point filler, mangle increases bleed dmg by 30% and shred dmg stack on bleed increase dmg spells (mangle). Which increase mangle dmg by 30%
Yo sorry for commenting such an Old Video but i try to find reference Im playing ATM on a wotlk private Server where shred doesnt get through dererence of hunter, the Administrator says its no bug since deterence parry also from behind and shred Has no description in the tooltip that explains why it should go through deterrence So am I trpping? Or does it demand on the patch? Did it get Changed across the patches?
what is the track (song) for the beginning (intro)... ive heard that before and i cant remember the name of it lol. driving me crazy! lol listened to it about 50times trying to remember
for future refference those moments you were able to attack the rogue try get a bash early with a fairie fire root for a re open or atleast use your lacerate all his vanishes and cloaks him going using evasion would of been useless he would of kept losing hp no matter what lol and the duel would of ended way earlier
Hello i was wondering, how do you have isolated duels? Like you are alone with that person who you are fighting, it looks like you are layered, is that a addon or I can just enable it? Please answer. :)
I play Tauren feral cat, Mainly pvp. How much better is Night Elf over Tauren. Is NE quickness and Meld worth switching to night elf over tauren for competitive pvp?
pounce-mangle-rake-shred-maim not the best opener, your maim will stun for a lower duration, instead be a normal cat and use rip. If he didnt use any dots use cyclone, restealth, then open again with ravage-mangle-shred etc etc. My point is, you need to manage DR on stuns, if you use all of them in a short period of time they wont be very useful
The rotation in WOTLK is entirely different due to how much less energy you have to spend due to King of Jungle + Master shapeshifter making all shapeshifting cost 90% less and the fact that Berserk reduces the energy cost of all abilities by 50% for its duration, there are energy cost reductions added to many of the feral talents so it changes how we approach all methods of dps. The biggest difference is having to keep up savage roar for the damage boost in addition to watching your Rip tick count and use of FB. In pvp its often a judgement call as to which one will gain you the most benefit based on the class your facing or if its a group fight. I dabbled in feral back in the day and I'm maining one right now in TBC and I cannot wait to for wrath for us to get infected wounds, cat charge and a fear immunity cd :D
The WoD models link isn't available in the Warmane download page anymore, but, you can search in the Warmane forum for a guide with a bunch of graphical changes, including Legion models, just google something like: "Legion models in Warmane".
@@inchmo6121 Also depends on what you want to play..arena, dueling,open world pvp,battlegrounds... in terms of mechanics Paladin is the easiest one for sure, but you will have hard time playing against some casters.. in arena 3v3 paladins are pretty hard because they have to cleanse,heal,shield,hof and do dmg... so really depends on what you want to play in PVP
@@NibbaiWotlk So first of all you are only loosing damage when your energy runs over 100´, if it just takes a little bit longer to hit with shred. Getting behind the enemys back isnt that hard and even better because if you hit your enemy with shred, it cant be parried dodged or blocked. And you build you cp just minimally faster than with shred but then loose around 20% of damage for it. Not worth it
bro vs rog you need to use your E to dont get let rees with cloack you are using atacks with no bleeds in bear form this rog is so bad for this reason you won you let him rees a lot and vs war dont use intant heal never only for cc and you cast heals to force trinket or bladstorm bad with roots and dont stay in bladstorm use sprint or travel form and vs dk you can win with a burst rotation dont need cc his pet in cas you are in truvel cc dk with instant and heal full and lame because he trinkets the fisrt stun its free to heal full all time you want
vs paladin you did bad too he used the defensive reduccion dmg and you used the heal instant not then ciclon and enter stealth if he gona heal just charge gim in stealth and stun him and start again rotation and vs hunt just use combo points for bleeds full not to stun you didnt get first stun he gona trinket intant if you do that just instant ciclon his trinket and heal full and sleep ped and you won the fight and never use charge if he dont use his separation
i dont understand how you cannot understand that rofl. He is showing tips and tricks to beat them, if he would die all time what reason would be behind that video ? omg made my day thx
Im gonna backseat and tell many things i see wrong with this vid First, i think everyone is undergeared, duels are very different when you face a shadowmourne or an almost 100% arp rogue/hunter (cuz this is 3.3.5) 1:09 Warrior charges then turns back and intercept, now hes out of gap closers, not sure why he did that 2:48 Best bladestorm NA 3:47 No spell reflect on NG, bladestorm from africa 4:41 Kidney shot on bear, doesnt wait till you are out of form, also 2k damage opener lol 4:59 Rupture on bear, cant sap or blind for 16 sec 5:28 Uses shadow dance anyways, not patient 5:38 Vanishes for no reason, but cant sap or blind out of form anyways because of his bleeds 7:10 Rooted, low hp druid will try to create space and heal out of form, wait a bit Cloak->Shadowstep kick (if casting)-> KS-> Finish 7:21 Should've blinded Survival Insticts 8:25 Sap and eat? Idk he died to thorns lol 8:55 Trinket with 0.5 sec left? 9:57 Lichborn but not self heal? Also no DS? 12:19 Why go for 2k Fb instead of maim? No trinket, no bubble, wings soon 12:47 You can open with NG, he will be at melee range and will master's call early 13:35 Not sure why you bear charged that, probably clicked early? No commentary on your part either 13:44 Steady shot? You got the space and feral already charged, why stand still?
Great for you bro :D Do you see in title something like "2k Feral doing duels against duelist players"? Im just casual player that make videos for yt, i've never written that im god or something i just make videos. If someone enjoyed or seen something useful thats alright(which beginner players surely did, you can see by lik/dislike ratio), if not? Guess what? Still thats alright, but i will never see point od such comments when you come like AWFUL, THIS IS WRONG, THAT IS WRONG. I also do a couple of duels for each class in video and then i watch if enemy players or me did some major major mistakes..
@@NibbaiWotlk never called someone awful, just pointed out most of the mistakes here and maybe inspire you to duel better players and telling you what other players do when they are better (not necessarily 2k) or even you (i.e if you never use ff you are missing 5% arp)
I have no idea what kind of warriors these are, but with a well equipped one you wouldn't have the luxury of running away in normal form and getting intercepted, cause he would 2-shoot you. Also, first time i see a warrior with no cds eat full roots without even bladestorming. And not using throw on you (which not only deals quite some damage, but doesn't let you cast). Or not using retaliation at the right time. Or bladestorm->cancel bladestorm->intercept. These guys were using spell reflect to avoid getting cycloned while they were full on bleeds. This makes no sense :)))) I mean, you even forget to use Nagure's Grasp. Mate, come on.. fight a real Warrior, and trust me you'll have a hard time.
Sorry, I can't stop commenting. That rogue. The hell.. You shouldn't even touch a good rogue untill you're half hp, these guys are just tank&spank. He should like open and bleed you, vanish a few good times, stunlock, gouge and only then try to kite you. Going face to face vs any melee as a rogue = fail. At one point he vanished, sapped you, and opened with cheap shot, without waiting for his KS cd to end. So he ended up wanking after that cheap shot. At least a Gouge after it so he can avoid energy starvation? And the second rogue, which did a bit better. Last sap on you should have been game over for you. Sap -> bandage -> stealth sap again gg. Oh god..
Everything you said is right, but i never declared myself as a pro, neither the guys that i duel.. im average player, that make videos for youtube.. Some people find something useful/helpful or even just interesting on my channel and they follow me and like my videos. The reason i answered that way is cuz i hate comments that contain words such "lol" "the hell" "omg" etc.. Okay, write your comment with all mistakes in video but without these words. When ppl come and tell me "Hey bro, you got mistake here and here because of that and that" i even pin the comment to help others who are watching video. But, ill repeat i cant stand that hater access..
@@NibbaiWotlk Fair enough that you want the criticism to be more straightforward, but really? It's your interpretation that his expressions are hateful or w/e, sure you never claimed to be pro, but neither did he say that you had to be. The video is titled as tips, you're gonna need solid opponents for those to hold up. I think your content is really helpful as is, but promote the comment anyways then if what he said is right, would add to the video. Someone might just learn more thanks to knowing those things as well. Better to not assume what he meant by "the hell" right? Probably just annoyed the opponents weren't a bit better.
I would say opposite. I mean in some matchups its fair to use it, mainly against casters without LoS.But if u need to use it against melee enemies u are trash simply
@@NibbaiWotlk i think using bubble its completely fair in very duel, its normal paladin skill. Its not cheating and its not shame to use it against melee classes. (im not pala player)
