Ferrari 458 Italia vs Porsche 911 GT3 RS | evo Magazine 

458 just never seems to disappoint reviewers. Such an epic car!

240p we meet again

Also this isn't an actual comparison of the two vehicles, just a review of the 458 with a Porsche in the background.

Chris does reviews, that are absolutely at the top of the car rev. guys.

Older video, I know, but I've commented about it before and I'll say it again: There's just something about the 911 GT3 RS that seems like it would be a enjoyable track day car. (I'm a little biased, because on my European vacation, I went to the Nurburgring and the good fortune to take a ride in the 'Ring Taxi with Sabine Schmitz herself, a total sweetheart, and when I told her I was going to be doing a few laps of the 'Ring later on with a rented 911 GT3, she gave me some really helpful tips, like how to take that high speed left hand kink before the almost 180 degree sweeper at the end of the first sector, and where to aim the car to get a good plunge into the carousel and the mini carousel that comes later.) I know both cars are very capable track machines, but it seems like there is more fun to be had with the Porsche, not that I would get out of the Ferrari after a few hot laps without a smile on my face. For the purist, it's definitely gotta be the Porsche. For the occasional track day enthusiast who also wants a car that will be parked near the front of a fancy restaurant by the valet, then it's the 458. Both awesome machines though, as they've shown themselves to be since this video came out.

I love it when he said "go and sell your house" but anyway the 458 is definitely one of my favorite supercars!

I take the Ferrari because it's the most famous brand in the planet. I never heard in my country about porsche brand, I only here about ferraris

Porsche and Ferrari really are the two best sports car makers for different reasons. They're also my two favorite sports car makers over all other brands. Your really can't say the 458 is better than the RS nor can you say the RS is better than the 458. They are both amazing for totally different reasons just as Harris says. I would like both in my garage, with a 65 AMG Benz to drive everyday.

GT3 all the wayyy

I've never been super crazy about ferraris , but that car is SPECTACULAR !

I currently drive a Porsche, but the design of the 458 is simply breathtaking and IMHO blows the GT3 out of the water.

Its pity that we dont have this video in HD :(

Wow, Neils camera sucked back then.

it seriously a beautiful car...i've never felt this way about any Ferrari since the Testarossa in the 80's..it looks amazing

GT3 RS all day long!

the voice sounds soo calm while trying to describe the ferocious cars.. i dont know if i should have my mouth open in awe.. or fall asleep

911 gt3 rs now, 458 italia later

I can’t believe Porsche is still the only rear engine manufacturer. Closest thing is the many mid engine configurations from multiple manufacturers.

Porsche for me anyday.

Great comparison! Thank you, keep making these kinds of videos comparisons are the coolest

458 has to be

I wish I'm so rich that I can buy the Ferrari 458 as the everyday car and the Porsche 911 GT3 RS as a trackday special or weekend ride which bank is easy to rob?

(458 if your a show off') (gt3 rs if your a man)

i like this guy's reviews. he should put more reviews :D

It seems amazing that a flat-6 Porsche can even compete with a 458

I know Chris isn't working with you folks anymore, but it would be nice to see a copy of this in non pixel vision.

Ferrari all the way. Porches are unimaginative, dare I say boring.

This was a nice change for a car review! No flashy visuals or distracting BGMs.. Just the car.. JUST the car. Very relaxing ..almost ;D!

Just have a look in the minute 4:31 ....... how fast the car goes in the corner and then in the longitudinal acceleration out of the corner....is just amazing, the grip that the car can generate, the precision at the same time, at high speed..... is astonishing !!!

i've told many new comers to chris harris fan list. Don't be surprised if you see Chris Harris on Top Gear soon. He is the best journalist/driver I have come across in years.

I have been a life long Ferrari fan, but analog supercars are the only way to go. I would happily own either one of these cars, but for my preferred driving style, I'll take the gt3. Kudos to Mr. Harris for another great comparison.

That 458 is something to behold, but I'm riding with the gt3 rs all day everyday.

i love how he said "an ipod thingy" at 4:13

The experts complaining about the lack of a race are probably talking about a dragrace and that doenst even need video proof because the Ferrari has over 100hp more. I havent read about any timed tracktests of the 458 but the GTR RS (450hp) was recently tested by the German car magazine SportAuto which i happen to read and it did a 7.33 around the Nordschleife and a 1.09,06 around the short Hockenheimring. The 430 Scuderia (510hp) tested by the same team did a 7.39 respectively a 1.10,3.

Really enjoy this journalist. Such unbiased opinions. Best car review show so far. Well....next to top geark uk, but top gears budget is probably a million times larger.

The 'Grand Turismo 4' stat-quoting is just HILARIOUS. JasonLouk is the only one with anything intelligent to say. MX, the Turbo S does the 1/4 mile in 10.8 seconds, how is it slower than the GT3 RS, exactly? Martin, the Noble costs as much and is slower, and the Ultima you have to build yourself. No one with $230k USD disposable income is going to seriously consider building their own. It isn't about being a tenth faster in the 1/4, you'll always be driving the fastest car on the road.

@syxxsyxxsyxx - I've actually driven a few fast cars on a disused airfield, including a BMW M3 with a paddle-shift single-clutch gearbox, and it was nothing like as good as the manual. The Lambo is mid-engined, the Audi RS4 is front-engined, making it entirely different. Are you thinking of the R8? Anyway, I was talking about the Gallardo Balboni, which is RWD, not 4WD.

I won't get tired of that either but I will get tired of the beeping every time u do it

Who would have thought that one day this guy will be a Top Gear presenter?

@jmt6882 it means that they will actually measure datas from the car on the road and circuit. They did it last year but I don't rememer what evo issue was.

The second point about the upper trim 911s and the 458 is it makes much more sense to compare the upcoming 458 Speciale to the GT cars (e.g. GT2, GT3, RS versions). Perhaps comparing the Turbo S is a better comparison. The 911 is a wonderful car, though -- only car that can be supercar AND sports car, IMO. Its build quality is probably better than the 458.

Lighten up guys... Both cars are amazing feats of engineering, the only real difference is that Ferrari actually have a design team. Just appreciate the fact that these cars exist man!

@fifafan1 i agree, but we were talking about bhp per liter, not driving quality or the hability to curve.

@3droadrunner No, Germany is Ferraris most important export market. And for a fact, the regions where most people buy Ferraris are Bavaria ( Audi, BMW) and especially Baden-Württemberg (Mercedes, Porsche) where i am from.

Porsche needs to refresh their body style. I know it's timeless, but they have so many years of it, that something fresh would be nice.

@RhythmEngineering my '84 944 does the same :) Love every single sound

@gallardogt No , it doesnt need the PDK , its not just about the speed , its about the whole experience and feel of driving a car , standard H style shifter can give you so much more in terms of enjoying behind the wheel than a PDK....

honestly, evo tv is my favorite car show now, until the next season of Top Gear!

These cars are almost in different leagues! Its like comparing a harley davidson to a tricycle

@Leo240sx No the 2-rotor rotary engine has 6 power cycles per revolution. The V8 has 4 power strokes per revolution. So it's a 1.95 L, making 141 hp/L.

@Symbrio to turbo it they would have to lower the compression, but any turbo or superhcraged car requires more maintenacnce then a N/A car. I like gtrs but i dont know anything about the 2011 gtr, have u seen the Lexus LFA its pretty nice and its similar to the 2010 gtr i think

i just realised that this video is EXACTLY one year old... and 700,000 views isnt half bad...

Anyone know the roads on which this video was filmed?

when u r spending that kind of money, u dont want to buy the value of money option, you need something to stimulate your heart and soul...so buy the one you always wanted. Both are great.

@gpower88 i was thinkin of fixing my civic up to but idk wat engine to replace it with and what cars has he raced with his civic

This Porsche GT3 RS needs the PDK geabox but then with a swifter like the WRC rallycars. So just one big shifter for shifting up and down so you can still corner what you want in the right gears what you are used in a GT3. Imagine, this will be a dream come true, just look at the onboards of those WRC rallydrivers. Believe me, this will be thé selling point fort he next GT3!!

I can't understand Ferrari's engine logic in 458. The car has a 4.4 liter engine that produces 562 hp, but under 400lbs of torque. Why can't they step up the displacement to at least 5.0 or 5.5 liters to produce more torque? It's like they're more obsessed with an engine that you can run up to 9000 rpm that makes a great sound. Every time I driven one of these cars you have to run up the rpms up to the stratosphere to get it moving. Still a stunning car.

i have to correct this guy, the 458 has a 4.5L V8, thats why its called the 458 not a 4.4L

@toyotas2006 people honestly don't realize the fun of a manual gearbox. double clutching and revmatching make it smoother than most automatics anyway

Love the powerslides and angles that gt3rs takes

The type who is not a big millionaire, but have money. The type that uses a diesel wagon in day to day life, and in the weekends, on the 4 hours reserved only for him, he goes crazy. That type of working man.

This is not a comparison. He just reviewed both cars a little bit but did not compare them. Truely great cars with some of the finest technology in the world. Personnaly i'd preffer the porsche,just love the design *_*

When you brake hard, most of the weight of the car is in the front, that mean that there is a lot of pressure between the tow front tyres and the ground, on the oposit there is no so much pressure between the rear tyres and the ground. That's why you can not brake harder in the rear of the car than in the front. When you brake the most of energy is in the front, on the oposit when you want to accelerate the center of gravity moves at the rear that's why high perf car are propulsion or even AWD

@MXdude2793 I believe you are wrong.. The turbo s is half a second quicker to 62mph than the gt3 rs.. also the turbo s is closer to the 458 in terms of power.. And the gt3 rs is in my opinion a track tool despite its friendliness

Italians do make the best cars! My car is from the same group as Ferrari too ;)

@MrJohanLindgren N/A engine non turbo charged or non supercharged engines the agera is twin turbo charged

"Go and sell your house" for this car he says. And yet somehow, this car makes that statement totally sensible.

I like how the 911 GT3 RS is cheaper than a new 458 back then... Now you will never ever be able to afford a used 991 GT3 RS.. But the 458 is waaay waaay cheaper used...

The 458 may be a more capable machine but I would take the GT3 RS over the 458 any day of the week. The GT3 RS is simply hardcore!

@dagnut thats exactly what i thought, considering that every other guy who has driven the 458 was absolutly stunned its at least a possibility. If you like the GT3RS and think a car should be pure you should get an old 911, maybe a 964RS or 911RS, those cars are really pure and hardcore driving machines, comparing them to a GT3RS is like comparing the GT3 to the 458. So there´s not much point in the GT3RS, except you wanna go racing, but the 458 just shows whats possible and therefore wins imao.

The best interior ive seen in a Ferrari. Plus, black is my favorite colour, especially on the Enzo.

Wait, the Ferrari has a drag coefficient of 0.33?! WHAT?! A 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona, which is simply a modified version of the least aerodynamic car ever made, has a drag coefficient of 0.28! So you're telling me that even this late in the game, the almighty Italian supercars still have more drag than a Charger with a chunk of fiberglass stuck on the nose? And while we're at it, that nose also made over 1000lbs of downforce. I guess that's what you get when you tell NASA to do your aero.

back in the day when we had the Ferrari 360, the capacity of the 911 was close enough for the cars to be comparable... but now I think the 458 is a little to different to be compared to a 911... they are two of my most favorite cars though

interesting how the old 959 vs F40 was the porsche being all futuristic and technologically advanced. now its the other way around

@RenaultSport133 Just look at the drifting in part two where the GT3 is also famous of. Btw at least in the wet a 'WRC-shifter' can help imo.

poll time; 200k dollar ferrari and a 1,000 sq ft loft or a 30k Camry with a 4,000 sq ft home? Your quest has begun

The middle exhaust on the 458 is a smaller diameter than the other two. That annoys me.

512TR! Great taste! I was underestimating the host of the show until he mentioned that he's the owner of a 512TR...

I've been a Porsche man since I first saw that commercial, when I was a kid, of the red 911 winding through the country side, in the late 1970's or early 80's. I haven't liked a Ferrari since the 308 GTS… until now. I'll have one of each thanks, in ash black.

did he just said ' well it's just plain hump-able' towards the ferrari's 3 hole exhaust? :o

@gpower88 is his car turbo charged or superchaged

ahh i do love chirs' reviews. best on the web.

which is better 2011 458 italia or 2011 enzo?

Wer sagt, das die Formel 1 die prestigeträchtigsten Rennliga der Welt ist? In vielen Bereichen der Welt spielt sie eine untergeordnete Rolle. Rallysport und Gruppe C- Wagen, das waren die Fahezuge die in den 60,70 und 80er für Aufsehen sorgten. Der Porsche 917 und 956/62 sind Legendänden. Der Ferrari 512M/S war Anfang der 70er der größte Konkurrent für den Porsche 917. Das widerlegt nochmal das, das Porsche erst in Lemans eingestiegen ist, als Ferrari weg war.

@agentbb007 He means that the suspension is firm and the car ''hops'' a bit around on the bumpy UK roads.

@Porschefanatic100 the best noise comes from my 1968 datsun , it's so complex . You can hear noises from every part of my car

That noise at 4:33... oh my goodness

What is the relaxing music playing in the background, anyone know?

@fifafan1 There's a catch. 458 wouldn't handle forced induction so well. There have been a couple of TT Ferraries in last 15 years (which were N/A original), but most of them are extremly fragile and have to be serviced quite often. Main reason is high compression ratio.Of course there are turboed high compression motors, but are expencive to service and won't handle high boost output. 458 is epic car,in fact,599 GTO and 458 are THE ONLY ferrari cars I would buy.But in 458 vs 2011 GTR, GTR wins

I like Chris Harris been following him for years, all through driver republic days, top reviewer and excellent pilot BUT viewers should know he drove a GT3 RS for Porsche at Nurmburg 24 hours so he might be slightly biased, I haven't driven either so I won't call him out on it..but its possible.

I think I'll take both and I think someone in the midst of buying a 458, if he hadn't had a Porsche already in the garage, would agree.

the steering wheel in the 458 is most likely worth more than my car lol

4.5 litre engine...hence the name, 458! 4.5 litre V8!!!

you dont say. its about efficiency on the track, but on the road, you jsut want to feel the car, and you can only with manual gearbox

Porsche 911 has the best chassis ever fitted to sport car. And I don't want Porsche to change the shape of this car, it's perfect. I think Ferrari is for people who don't know about car very much. They saw Ferrari and think it's a good looking car so they love Ferrari, nothing more than that. But if you want engineering balance, engineering perfection go Porsche.

Ah yes... Ferrari, the Italian version of Porsche vs Porsche, the German version of Ferrari

@thestoryteller612 I have, and it's painfully mouth watering. Imagine that slick gated shifter, gleaming in the sunlight coming in to the cabin. The clicks as you're shiting. I can't simply understand why they wouldnt develop a manual for it. I mean, how much can it really cost? They done manuals for more than 50 years...

@87Jeffry I love all cars...zr1 gt-r 911 r8 458 gallardo murcielago rs6 m3 m5 ccxr etc etc etc...but 911 is my favorite :) all of them are good at something with some + and -

This generation gt3 rs is actually worth buying over the gt3 whereas the last generation there was hardly any point of getting an rs over a standard gt3.

Yeah, and another reason why Chris Harris is the man!