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Today, I present a short video of my experience of the Festool TKS80, what I like, what I am not sure about and what has not worked so well for me featuring a personal solution which has delivered a great improvement in functionality and allowed the TKS80 to be an impressive centrepiece to my small workshop.
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@mikevyvyan7060
@mikevyvyan7060 2 года назад
Thank you for a very detailed and precise personal evaluation of the table saw. Very helpful. I look forward to watching more of your productions. Welcome to the retirees woodworking exploration club!
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Thank you Mike. More at some stage when I have my extension done and can be back working on the workshop again.
@pcholakov
@pcholakov 6 месяцев назад
“Victorian attitude towards structural integrity” 😂🎯 That’s just perfect! Thank you for sharing this.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 6 месяцев назад
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@optload
@optload 2 года назад
Finally a user review which just barely mention the sawstop feature and focusing on usability, feeling, weaknesses. Got tired of sausage videos without any useful info. Big thank you !
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
My pleasure Atilla. I too avoided what seems like hundreds of clone sausage videos.
@krisstoops1851
@krisstoops1851 Год назад
@@AMBuilds maybe it was Festool's way of inventing promotion of the frankfurter a bit :D
@krisstoops1851
@krisstoops1851 Год назад
incenting*.
@wynandgoosen2568
@wynandgoosen2568 3 года назад
The only proper Festool Table Saw review
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you
@cuebj
@cuebj 3 года назад
Boring! And all the better for it! Clear, systematic, no attempt to be a comedian. Excellent. Thanks. 8 min: not the first time I've seen comments about small things where Festool cut corners. One video took apart a saw and found ultra high quality components next to brittle trash. Shame. But most people find them reliable, even on site
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you, Stephen.
@geoffkelly2760
@geoffkelly2760 Год назад
Thank you from Downunder - Your practical safety-first perspective is appreciated. Looking forward to your design of accessories. Cheers, Merry Christmas
@bsrobinson
@bsrobinson 2 года назад
Thanks! Very informative!
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
My pleasure, Ben. Glad you found the video informative.
@pyt2music
@pyt2music 3 года назад
Very interesting video, thank you for taking the time to make it, and please make a video of the construction of your lovely cart
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you for your kind comment and I'm on it, now
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
The construction video is up pyt. Hopefully you'll find it interesting.
@mikehenley9297
@mikehenley9297 3 года назад
Amateur wood working surgeon here considering one of these. I’d love the Mafell Erika but like you I’m also in need of a full set of fingers hence tks80. Thanks for the frankfurter free review.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
My pleasure Mike. It was very much a Hobson's choice for me.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello again Mike. Please have a look at our TKS80 crosscut sled video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QWJsq6bDaK8.html. Part two should be up within two weeks. Even some comparison to fracture repair!
@paulmaryon9088
@paulmaryon9088 11 месяцев назад
An excellent video, thank you. I have been thinking about this saw foe some time now, however after watching your reviewI'm not so sure, thanks again. Look forward to more
@colinperkins7564
@colinperkins7564 Год назад
Excellent video, thanks very much.
@msflt
@msflt Год назад
Wonderful, thank you
@Arks123
@Arks123 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, I am in the market for a new table saw and a saw with the SawStop function really has closed down my options. Great review!
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you.
@martindobson6135
@martindobson6135 6 месяцев назад
great review! thanks. Would love some more info on the holder you have made.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 6 месяцев назад
Thank you Martin. If you mean the cart, here is the video link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5sKLZc4Meqs.htmlsi=SPLzx7vjthW47B9k
@jayschuon8330
@jayschuon8330 3 года назад
Interesting report on the Festool Sawstop. I'm an American remodeling carpenter and bought the Sawstop job site saw when my son started working with me four or five years ago. It's a very well made tool and has similar blade height and angle adjustments. I've had two unintentional tripping events, one with wet lumber and one when the saw fence extension was left out and touched the running blade. The safety feature worked . Hopefully never on a finger, but the peace of mind is worth the cost and bother. The jobsite saw cost about $1500. US. I hate to imagine what the Festool will be. They do make wonderful tools though and I've never regretted a purchase! Sawstop also has excellent customer service! For some reason last year the saw would not stay running. The tech rep walked me through a repair. It still wouldn't work. I took the saw to an authorized repair shop and they struggled with it as well. In the end they sent me two new switches and cartridges free of charge. I was without the saw for two weeks and realized how nice it is having to use my old unit in the interim. Best regards on your new purchase, It's a beauty !
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing your experience, Jay. The saw with just the angle guide is around £1600 in the UK with VAT registered business users able to claim back 1/6 of that back bringing it down for them to around £1333. What price a finger or thumb though!
@jayschuon8330
@jayschuon8330 3 года назад
@@AMBuilds so true!
@oldcodger4672
@oldcodger4672 2 года назад
Andy the Woodgrafter has a good series on using the INCRA positioner with the MFT table I bought the INCRA setup from the UK, and added the adaptors to affix it to the MFT table via dogs into the holes, plus attaching to the v groove aluminium channels on the in feed table. Have not yet explored the potential of the setup. Perhaps this setup may help you achieve your ideas with jigs etc. Andy’s videos are very helpful for a senior newbie like myself. As are your videos. Thanks to both of you.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello OC. I'm thinking your comment might belong elsewhere. Hope you are well. Have you seen my three new vids?
@jamesnasmith984
@jamesnasmith984 Год назад
I think your critique and solutions ought to be of utmost interest to Festool et als.
@dennismacwilliams196
@dennismacwilliams196 2 года назад
Good Video, your info was very helpful. Thank you
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Thank you. One of our early videos and I felt You Tube needed a sausage free review, reflecting a novice owner's experience of the saw.
@trevorcourt2306
@trevorcourt2306 3 года назад
"as common as rocking horse poop" classic
@vstm3950
@vstm3950 2 года назад
Thank you for taking time and sharing your thoughts Sir. Looks like Festool still has some homework to do in the field of table saws. Probably version 2.0 will eliminate everything or most bad what you mentioned. Cheers from Poland
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Thank you, Vstm. I agree and a groove for a sled would be top of the list. I have spent an eternity getting a decent sled worked out and don't have the time to assemble the vid at the moment and that caused solely by lack of groove.
@cerberus2881
@cerberus2881 2 года назад
It's maddening what you guys can get and what We Can't. I'd buy the HK or HKC 85 w/ Dado feature if I could!
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello Cerberus. I've not seen the tools you mention and don't know how to help you. Sorry.
@philn3385
@philn3385 3 года назад
Yes please to the description of the construction of the Cart. I am just beginning my adventure with this tool package in a 2.4 x 4.2 shed that is already full of a bench and storage.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
I'm on it Phil. I've a little more room at 3.5x5m but having like you to be very space efficient as I am building a 2.4x1.2 bench for the middle. Some of my other videos might be of interest and thank you for engaging with me. I've learned a lot from You Tube and hopefully I can give a little back.
@philn3385
@philn3385 3 года назад
@@AMBuilds Thanks for the reply. You idea of a cart for the saw has convinced me that this is what i need to do fit this tool into my small shed. I would be very interested in your description video when you have had a chance to make it.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
@@philn3385 All resources "in the can" Phil and with my son for assembly into the finished video which does take a few days
@philn3385
@philn3385 3 года назад
Great to hear that the video is underway. Will you be including measurements? I have had a go at a preliminary drawing and am sourcing the ply. Cheers Phil
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
@@philn3385 Video nearly ready, Phil, just a handful of minor edits and we shall put a list of dimensions in the text at the bottom.
@JasonWheelerHanningtonAsh
@JasonWheelerHanningtonAsh 3 года назад
Great video, thank you - a construction video for the trolley would be very useful!
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you, Jason. It on my channel here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5sKLZc4Meqs.html I hope you find it useful and if you have any questions, please ask.
@JasonWheelerHanningtonAsh
@JasonWheelerHanningtonAsh 3 года назад
@@AMBuilds That’s brilliant, thank you!!
@bengrounds8109
@bengrounds8109 2 года назад
Hi Great review. Im in a similar situation with a small workshop. I put everything on wheels! I would love to see more details of the construction of the mobile cart. Cheers
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Thank you Ben. The cart video is on my channel. Do let me know if you're not able to see it.
@ipcress20
@ipcress20 11 месяцев назад
Excellent presentation. If this saw is ever offered in the USA, I'd be inclined to make a base such as yours, with storage for many Systainers! They're multiplying like rabbits in my shop!
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 11 месяцев назад
I did wonder about using the space for Systainers but having it as storage is really useful for dropping in and then using offcuts does work well. If you have a look at my bench video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2NVK7pJcMOs.htmlsi=DxW4BcvlAtIt_z2E you will see the drawers were made just slightly larger than a Systainer and so contents +/- trays are in each one for the relevant tool above and the Systainers are in the attic, in case of a service need.
@redstihl9027
@redstihl9027 Месяц назад
Subscribed 👍
@simonhibble7019
@simonhibble7019 2 года назад
I wonder if a sled could be made with timbers running ether side of the table. Maybe it would bind up?
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hell Simon. Making a sled has indeed, as you suspect, been quite a challenge but I have made progress and part one is already up on my channel and I hope to have the concluding part up soon.
@julianniemeyer1655
@julianniemeyer1655 3 года назад
Thanks - always interested to see reports, warts and all, of someone using a tool rather than just repeating manufacturer's spiel. As for 90cm - that is the height of all Festool tools like the MKT/3 - it is not arbitrary.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you for your encouragement, Julian. I'm a bit taller than average and as a consequence am stooped over on anything at 90cm, which I presume is optimal for folks of average height. I made all my countertops 940mm in my surgery and used 970mm for my big workbench, shortly to be retired for a new one. I do, most genuinely, think these little variations make a big difference to comfort when standing for long periods and would encourage folks to experiment themselves, if making their own cabinets and carts My saw is noticeably more comfortable for me to use, on the new cart.
@cerberus2881
@cerberus2881 2 года назад
Well done! I'd bet that saw cost more than the Sawstop's Top of the Line 5 hp cabinet saw. Canadian builder Rob Cosman swears by it.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Yes, the bill was a sore one, Cerberus but not as sore as an amputated finger! I would have had a Saw Stop years ago if they had been available in the UK and held off having a table saw until something safe(ish) came along
@markjarman7819
@markjarman7819 2 года назад
The best review of this saw in my mind online. Been looking at this to replace a dewalt saw. The lack of a mitre slot is a pain but the extension tables would be nice. How does the main fence set up and how are you finding it now you have owed it for some time? Thanks for reviewing this tool.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello Mark. I am cursing the lack of a mitre slot and I think this is a major shortcoming as I've used the saw over the months and I've been mulling various workarounds. The main fence seems OK but you have to be careful the far end moves properly, especially when making small adjustments. As this is my first table saw, I have no comparisons for the fence.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello again Mark. Please have a look at our TKS80 crosscut sled video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QWJsq6bDaK8.html. Part two should be up within two weeks. Problem solved!
@oldcodger4672
@oldcodger4672 2 года назад
This is a very thorough video - watching a second time, as we have just moved to a retirement village, with a 3 car garage. Refreshing my memory on the many features of this saw. Now I have room for long awaited tools, including this saw, a jointer, a thicknesser and a linisher. BTW any progress on crosscut and other jigs? Hope the house extensions are progressing without too many surprises. Now you have had more time with the saw, anything new you have discovered that you can share?
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello OC, Good to hear from you. Nearly finished the building work, just a kitchen larder unit to finish and then onto the koi pond, as the weather improves (hopefully) Will be making a video about a full sheet crosscut jig, I have been using with my rail saw which has been very helpful with the larger pieces needed for cupboards. Only comment on the saw is when making small adjustments on the fence, I have got into the habbit of giving the far end of the fence a wee shoogle to make sure it settles in the right place when locked down, as I have found it can suffer from sticktion. Other than that still all good and I do have some ideas regarding saw sled but unfinished in my mind so unstarted with my hands. All the best AM.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello again OC. Please have a look at our TKS80 crosscut sled video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QWJsq6bDaK8.html. Part two should be up within two weeks. Problem solved!
@LZNico
@LZNico 2 года назад
Thank you for the video is very informative and well done, I wanted to ask you if you have an idea of the noise level of this saw? Thanks again
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello Nicolas. Thank you for your kind comment. As far as noise is concerned, it is difficult for me to be precise. It is a little less less noisy than my Bosch 12" sliding mitre saw but noisier than say a Domino machine. I usually wear foam ear plugs when using any of my machines and slip on full ear defenders if I'm doing routering. Does that help?
@snowboardenvy
@snowboardenvy 3 года назад
Well done a great vid 👍. 11:48 is it possible to add another extension table again to make the rip cut over 1.1metres? Thanks
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you for your encouragement. I am not sure, is my answer. I presume the outfeed table has the v groove all around ( I haven't opened mine as I doubt I will use it - open to offers!) and like the side table is supported with one of the sticks. I think you might be able to join two tables together but I reckon you would need something better than the stick for stability, although a pair of modest folding trestles would be easy to make and much safer than the sticks. One of the reasons I made my saw cart was to bring the height of the saw to just above my new bench ( in construction) to use that as the outfeed. It is 2.4m long so will handle up to pretty well anything although I can open my garage/workshop at both ends so can pass any length of timber.
@sawdustwoodchips
@sawdustwoodchips 2 года назад
Thanks for this honest review. I have been in the states for 20+ years where I had a 3HP PCS . I have now moved back to the UK and looking into getting this saw, but going from a 250KG PCS to the 65KG I am concerned at how 'wobbly' this saw is. did you experience much wobble? many thanks Michael
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello Michael. This is my first table saw on account of the Saw Stop feature and so have no real frame of reference. For what I was doing I found the supplied legs not particularly useful as positioning of the saw was like a wheelbarrow rather than a full trolley and there was some wobble and flex in the legs. For a peripatetic craftsman, perfect but not for me. With the heavy cart I made, it's very solid with a couple of castors locked. I only have 5x3.5m for my workshop and so need my saw and bench to be moveable to best suit the job in hand and so for me a permanent cabinet saw would not be the solution.
@PaulMarlmountWoodcrafts
@PaulMarlmountWoodcrafts Год назад
Hi, Really enjoyed your excellent presentation. I am thinking of investing in this saw. I create serving boards and keepsake boxes. Would you recommend. I have Bosch gts10 xc but it’s fences are not precise So I made a crosscut sled.
@am11744
@am11744 2 года назад
Love the cart Idea and you can't put a price on a digit 👍
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Thank you. The saw stop feature was pivotal in me having the saw and the cart has proved invaluable in my little shop.
@Jazzcat1980Rip
@Jazzcat1980Rip Год назад
I do have a question on operation. How efficient is the dust collection. Table saws generate a great deal of sawdust. cheers!
@jls1495
@jls1495 2 года назад
Really good review . Like you I am surprised festool did not include mitre slots …. You mentioned using the sliding table as a basis for sleds have you managed to make any sleds jigs for the saw that are successful, the lack of these slots is the one thing that makes me reluctant to purchase !.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Thank you JLS. I am actively working on a crosscut sled, at the moment but have a couple of design hurdles to overcome. I shall certainly feature a video ASAP if I can be happy it works safely and properly and could be useful to others. Stay tuned!
@jls1495
@jls1495 2 года назад
@@AMBuilds that’s great thanks as I have watched many videos trying to work out the best way to incorporate the use of sleds with this saw l the only way I could see was using the sliding table , so it will be great to see what you come up with . Once I know someone has been successful then I will purchase the saw . Thanks again for the great review and of course no sausages were harmed in the making of yours 😂
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello again JLS. Please have a look at our TKS80 crosscut sled video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QWJsq6bDaK8.html. Part two should be up within two weeks. Problem solved!
@davidvanos8297
@davidvanos8297 2 года назад
Thanks for the very thorough review of the saw. I'm also quite keen on my ten fingers, so the tks 80 seems like the most logic choice for a table saw. I'm only a bit afraid of the coarse adjustment of the blade height. It seems easy to raise and lower the blade in a single turn. However, I wonder if it restricts setting the height to a specific measurement? I'm thinking of half-lapped joinery for instance. Do you have any experience with that being an issue, or does if function as one would like for such detailed work? Thanks again.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds Год назад
Hello David. I do apologise for the lateness of my reply. The adjustment knob is quite large and with a smooth action and as such and I've been able to obtain satisfactory specific depths using a Trend router depth gauge.
@jmadawg
@jmadawg 2 года назад
How are you finding the rip fence? I've only just gotten mine, but the fence feels quite stiff. I'm finding some adjustment, it's a bit free-er now, but it still get stuck in the lightly groved table with the glued on bit of laminate that's at the base of the fence. Also find it sticking when transitioning between the extension table and the table saw base. Nowhere near as refined as I'd normally expect from Festool.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello Jason. Thank you for your question. The main thing I have found is watching that the far end of the fence moves to be square when making small adjustments at the near end. Mine is quite free on it's movement both within the primary table and the extra piece. I did play around with the extensions piece to get it nicely aligned and because it rests on my cart, it has stayed in place.
@paroshabdulla
@paroshabdulla 3 года назад
Very nice video. I have also bought the saw. What I am missing is a sled. Do you have plans to build one? It would be great to see.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you. Yes I do, although I am building a rather complex bench at present. After that I hope will be time for the sleds.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello again. Please have a look at our TKS80 crosscut sled video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QWJsq6bDaK8.html. Part two should be up within two weeks. Problem solved!
@derekcharles3515
@derekcharles3515 Год назад
I have the SawStop Jobsite Pro, but have been looking at the TKS 80. Is your saw table dead flat? Does it dip near the throat plate and if so, by how much? Thank you for a comprehensive review of your saw and cart. All good information.
@edvardwendelin275
@edvardwendelin275 Год назад
We have a TKS 80 and it's not dead flat sadly. We sent it for service, but they claim it is within their designed spec. It's a bit annoying to say the least.
@drs-Rigo-Reus
@drs-Rigo-Reus 3 года назад
What I also meant to ask, how is the dust collection? It has two intakes going into one hose. What do you think of it?
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Hello Hans. I have been happy with the dust extraction but my answer must be tempered by the fact this is my first table saw. I do from time to time measure particulates with a little laser monitor and find it barely changes if I am making full cuts on boards. If I am fine tuning and shaving edges down then I find a modest increase in small particulates and I then turn on my air filter (another video on the channel) I don't worry about a little bit of big sawdust particles accumulating on the table.
@Maxime-ho9iv
@Maxime-ho9iv 2 года назад
Nice and instructive video. How about the alignment? Is this table saw accurate? For 90° cuts and other angles? Aligned to the fence as to the miter gage? Also, how does it allow for adjustment to make it perfectly square if it’s not? Maybe the subject of another video?
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Hello Maxime. I am currently making a cross cut sled ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QWJsq6bDaK8.html and it does appear the blade is correctly parallel to at the edges of the table. However I do have one issue and I shall be making a short video about it shortly. One that should be easily fixed. I also then hope to get the completion of the sled video up on my channel.
@Maxime-ho9iv
@Maxime-ho9iv 2 года назад
​@@AMBuilds Yea I just watched it. This is such a shame that the tks 80 doesn't have T tracks.. I still think an in-depth review of the squareness and accuracy of the table would be a nice video on its own (reasoning: I don't even want to think about building a crosscut sled if I don't know the table is worth it). Some very important questions anyone willing to purchase this saw would like to have answers to: 0) How flat is the table overall? And how flat are the other attached components to the table? 1) Is the blade square to the table and to the insert? Is it adjustable? 2) Is the fence square to the table? is it adjustable? 3) If you setup an angle on the table, is it accurate? Can you fine tune it? 4) If you setup an angle on the miter gauge (did you purchase it?), is it accurate? This whole chapter is completely missing from the youtube woodosphere.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
@@Maxime-ho9iv I'm just a hobby woodworker, Maxime and this is my first table saw, on account of the Saw Stop feature and so I have no experience or basis of comparison. I tend to make videos about things I am doing for my own projects and about tools folks like me might be looking to buy. Our remuneration is only a few pounds per video, nowhere near covering even our software and AV spend, never mind the large number of hours writing and editing each video and therefore this sort of technical video would really need to be made by Festool or one of the really big channels who are making a living from You Tube. Sorry.
@Maxime-ho9iv
@Maxime-ho9iv 2 года назад
@@AMBuilds No need for comparison with other saw tables. We are talking about what any saw table should be, i.e. square and flat. It’s absolute, not relative. It’s either square/flat or it’s not. It needs to be delivered as such, or be able to be adjusted as such, precisely. If your saw table is not square (blade relative to the table, fence relative to table, etc.) every single thing you do will be off. Anyone looking for a table saw will look for this in a review, that’s where you start, before anything else.
@peter78
@peter78 3 года назад
Hello Sir! Love you supporting table. Can you share the sizes? (Im from the netherlands so millimeters would be great! Thank you very much
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Hello Peter. Have you viewed the Saw Cart Video? I recall some of the sizes are there. I just make up the design sizes as I go along, from an initial idea in my head and don't have plans as such but am happy to measure some specific dimensions if that would help you.
@peter78
@peter78 3 года назад
Thank you! Will look that video! :)
@drs-Rigo-Reus
@drs-Rigo-Reus 3 года назад
would you say the tsk is a very accurate saw or a generic building site saw? Would gladly like to know. Nothing much on accuracy of this saw on the net I’m afraid. Its this or a Mafell Erica 85ec. Using classic INCA machines from Switzerland now. `These are no longer in production, restoration is worthwhile since they are excellent and very accurate and perfect for a small shop.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Hello Bob. A difficult question for me to answer as this is my first table saw. I cut eight sets of drawer components on it yesterday in 12mm ply and when marking up the pile of pieces for Dominoing this morning, the consistency of the parts was very good and in almost all cases completely smooth to the touch and a maximum variability of I reckon 0.2mm. The blade cuts cleanly, is parallel to the long fence and there is plenty power, three things I have not seen when watching others using cheap contractors' saws. I'm not au fait with your alternative selection but for me, having the Saw Stop safety device comes before anything else.
@derekcharles3515
@derekcharles3515 Год назад
One more question for you...does your blade hold exact 90* to the table after tilting to 45* then returning it? I have the folding cart for my JSS Pro and whenever I take it out of storage on the cart, I have to reset the 90* to table adjustment. I know you never have to tilt your saw on its side, however I'm wondering if just tilting the blade will make the TKS 80 blade go out of adjustment?
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds Год назад
Hello Derek. I've had no issue with returning to 90 degrees but if I've been doing those cuts for a while sometimes I have to carefully suck out sawdust from nooks and crannies to be able to achieve the indicated and real 45 degree cut. I have both 90 and 45 mini "squares" and it does seem to be pretty good from my hobbyist eye.
@MH-qx2mj
@MH-qx2mj 3 года назад
Hi, great review. I have just had a new TKS80 delivered, its does not have the splinter guard anymore and i have a problem with the table not being flat, did you have any issues regarding this? the throat plate will not sit flush, no matter what i do.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Thank you MH. The splinter guard, I believe is no 186 in the parts list and part number 10272140. It was only £1.13 plus VAT in 2020. With the throat plate: Is it sitting up at the back - i.e furthest from the switch? That happened to me until I realised that you need to slide the back into place before dropping the front down and clicking it into place. If you review the video at 6.10 you will see the action I use. Trying simply to place it in place means the little mushrooms on the table do not end up in the slots in the throat plate. Is this the issue you have? Please let me know if I have helped you and if not please help me by giving some more details as to the issue you are having and I'll do my best to help you.
@MH-qx2mj
@MH-qx2mj 3 года назад
@@AMBuilds Thanks for the reply. Their is no splinter guard hole anymore the incert is now solid, you seem to remove the insert different to mine, it has an arrow and you pull it towards you. The problem i have with saw is that the table is not actually flat and it has a dip in the middle and i wondered if you had checked this? I have been in touch with Festool and it looks like it will be returned. 😩 Thanks Mark
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
@@MH-qx2mj Certainly not something I noticed when setting up my extension table and shop cart. I'm sorry not to have been helpful.
@MH-qx2mj
@MH-qx2mj 3 года назад
@@AMBuilds Not at all, i appreciate you taking the time to reply. I am sure i will get to the bottom of it. Regards Mark
@edvardwendelin275
@edvardwendelin275 Год назад
@@MH-qx2mj Did this ever get resolved for you? Our TKS 80 is also not flat. We sent it in for service, but Festool claim it is within their designed spec. The motor is clearly too heavy for the table.
@ChickenDinnerz
@ChickenDinnerz 3 года назад
How accurate do you find the long fence? Is there much deflection in it? I have a mafell Erika and although it's very accurate the fence adjustment is very poor.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
I am a table saw novice and the fence works well for me. As you tighten the knob, it finds a spot perpendicular to the front rail and the fence clamp locks it in place. If I am making small fence adjustments, I do give the far end a slight wiggle before locking the fence, to make sure that stiction doesn't stop the far end making a similar small movement. I do sometimes struggle keeping the work against the fence with long workpieces although the use of featherboards has helped and I am considering the Jessem Sotck Guides or alternative. I am sorry not to have more expertise to comment more authoritatively.
@ChickenDinnerz
@ChickenDinnerz 3 года назад
I appreciate the reply and your modesty. Thanks
@jrichardson6
@jrichardson6 3 года назад
I used to own the cs50 table saw by Festool and got rid of it because the fence was so rickety . I also bought the long fence that attaches at both ends of the table and that too was a poor design I was v disappointed as I love Festool products . I got rid of the saw . Also had the cms ge unit with Ts55r installed under it same rubbish fences so it also went. My main attraction to this tks version is the sawstop but I am put off by the fence which look exactly the same as the cs and cmsge versions . I have recently bought a dewalt flex volt as a temporary measure the fence on the dewalt is so much better and much easier to use. It has a rack and pinion system which I wish Festool would learn from. I am looking into getting the Mafell table saw but it too looks like it has a similar fence system to the Festool ..thanks for making the video very well done.
@ChickenDinnerz
@ChickenDinnerz 3 года назад
@@jrichardson6 yeah I've used the DeWalt and the fence on that is unbeatable. In fact the new hikoki has the same fence and is cheaper. Much better than my 2k mafell fence
@ChickenDinnerz
@ChickenDinnerz 3 года назад
@@jrichardson6 the best thing about the mafell is the pull function. Almost don't need a mitre saw because of it. The motor is great and it's all very accurate when set up. But the fence adjustment is really poor. There's just one knob that you tighten so if you need to just take a tiny amount off its really hard to make the adjustment because the fence is pivoting off just one point. It's also pretty rubbish for jigs because there's no mitre slots. I'm considering selling mine now and just getting the hikoki table saw tbh
@oldcodger4672
@oldcodger4672 2 года назад
If you had the extra space, would you consider a Sawstop Saw e.g. Cabinet so you could make your own jigs. The cost of both is similar. Having the ability to make and use jigs adds versatility, plus an extra layer of safety. Maybe the Sawstop’s dust collection is not as good? Any comments appreciated. Thanks
@johannes.f.r.
@johannes.f.r. 2 года назад
Sawstops are not available in Europe. Of you want the Sawstop functionality you have to buy this Festool (or a huge panel saw with similar technology). But yes, on a base permanently in a shop a cabinet saw probably makes a bit more sense. You lose a little bit of storage, but heavy saws just run so smoothly.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Johannes has beaten me to it OC and is correct. I did look at importing a Saw Stop from Australia whilst awaiting the extended delay for the Festool but the administrative hurdles were not inconsiderable. I'm still unsure as to why Festool didn't include a mitre slot in their saw apart from their desire to be different. I like "different" as a philosophy but only when different means better or at least equivalent. Different is undoubtedly less in this case and although I do have some ideas for jigs, the time pressure of completing other tasks is stopping me finding the time to play with my ideas. Although I have no frame of reference, apart from occasional use of a basic contractor's saw, the Festool does feel very smooth in use.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 3 года назад
Festool TKS 80 Shop Cart Build: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5sKLZc4Meqs.html
@jrichardson6
@jrichardson6 2 года назад
The fence on this saw is just junk. It’s the same as the old cms and precisio why such a good company as festool can’t design a decent fence is beyond me. Something along the line of the dewalt rack and pinion would be a start. The table extensions are a pia to take off and remove. I notice the mafell table saws also have poor fence designs. I can’t understand how such expensive table saws have junk fences.
@AMBuilds
@AMBuilds 2 года назад
Thank you Jrichardson6. I've no frame of reference to compare and comment on fences but I do take the side table off occasionally, on my cart and find that fairly easy to remove and drop back into place. It is a saw designed for the peripatetic worker and I've morphed it into a pseudo cabinet saw and it mostly works for me, now I've got used to it's peculiarities and most importantly still have all my digits!
@jrichardson6
@jrichardson6 2 года назад
I like your self made cart very inventive. Have you tried the extension wings for the kapex… what a pfaff putting those on and off lol surely festool could design a quick latch on affair instead of expecting the likes of us to fiddle around underneath the table trying to get a metal tab to engage with a metal surface that is ambiguous in its execution 😹
@dberry99
@dberry99 Год назад
Festool had literally 250 years of tablesaw history to draw from and THAT is what they came up with?
@michaelmancini5773
@michaelmancini5773 Год назад
I'm a professional cabinetmaker, and I will tell you there is no excuse for the blade guard lifting off center on 45 degree rips, just as there no excuse for the Festool Kapex mitre saw not able to cut oversized crown mould on the flat at 33 & 31 degree mitre and compound angles, For $1500.00. Festool products are absurdly priced and not worth the money
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