FFXIV Gil Making Master Class - The Strategy That Got Me To Max Gil 

This is pretty much it in a nutshell. No silly gimmicks. No flavor-of-the-day/week/month/patch nonsense. Simple economics, and it works. Approaching my first 100,000,000 gil. Been building capital for months now, and there is no "get rich quick" scheme that doesn't come with a heavy potential downside. I dipped my hand into the resell market, and anything worth more than a few million gil will sit on the MB for weeks, even months at a time. It's much better to keep items up that have a high turnover rate. I will also point out that gathering in and of itself is very lucrative if you know what to gather. I've made tens of millions of gil just by gathering. It's a good money-making supplement to crafting, especially if your server's MB is overrun by botters who dominate all the easy-to-craft items.

Been playing since ARR and I never once bothered clicking on that upper right button. Good stuff man!!

I've seen so many trash guides out there about Gil making... This is the first and only guide I've ever seen that finally mentions the value of your own time! Good job! ♥

another trillionaire roegadyn bro. i think, im starting to see a pattern here. thanks for the video mate, really well done

Very helpful guide, i have hoarded mats and wasn't sure how to figure out what to craft, now I do. Thank you

One small thing thats always worked for me, housing items sell more the day or two after a housing round has ended, and all those people have new houses they want to decorate, and fast.

probably not as quick a guide for gil as this video but eureka is a potential gil maker the bunny fate in pyros runs every 10 mins (if someone isnt holding a bunny hostage) and you get minimum 10k gil for a bronze coffer, 25k for silver and 100k for gold. That might not sound like much at first but spend a few weeks doing that and it will add up quickly. Not to mention gold coffers have a chance to drop a mount that usually sells for 3-5mil on marketboard. Also, doing fates that have a chance to drop magicite items is good and in pagos, 2 fates (crab and cassie) have a chance to drop a ring/earring that sells for heaps on marketboard. I just had the blitzring drop from crab and sold it for 10mil on marketboard. Dont sleep on eureka!!

Thank you so much for your insight on checking supply first instead of other criteria!

Great vid! I play on dynamis and market is all over the place, but ive cornered the market on a nice piece of furniture that gets me 1-2 mil daily. It fits all the requirements you mentioned so definitely works!

For those of you not wanting to level all crafters, a good one or two to focus on is Weaver or Carpenter. Furniture sells quick, and usually in bulk (2-4 items at a time.) Weaver has the added benefit of diversifying into glam items too.

Never thought to use the marketboard that way, thanks!

Fashion Week also has heavy competition, so getting those treasure maps and hoarding the treasure-only materials that are used in fashion crafting can sell nicely as well.

This is wonderful and to the point, thank you!! :D

If you don't like buying just 10 more retainers, consider getting a second service account, with that for 11€ you have the opportunity to use them like a bank, get a few alt and bring them to lvl 25 if you do this for every alt you can get up to 160 retainers in one datacenter(2serviceaccounts x 2 per char x 40 slots per DC)

Thanks for the vid, it was fast and easy to understand as someone with negative knowledge of business or economics :) I can't keep more than 4 retainers comfortably, but I'd really be happy earning slowly as long as I have something to use my maxed classes on 😂

Can't quite afford 10 retainers atm but i have 5. A decent start. This was a very easy to understand video. It seems like an obvious message but i am someone who easily gets overwhelmed when i look at all my unused mats and the market board, not knowing what to sell. Not knowing where to start. So thanks for the information! Combined with my submarines, I'll hopefully make serious bank soon.

Something I would suggest that's pretty easy is to check in with vendors, things like the housing vendor or various beast tribes. There are a lot of items that people just don't realize they can go up to a vendor and buy, so you can easily flip them for a profit yourself. It likely won't be as much per shot as a crafted armor piece, but it's very easy to just buy iron ore from a limsa vendor, or buy various partitions from the housing vendor.

Can you make more gil with other means? Yes. Will the other means be riskier? Yes. Even if you use the other means, should you still do things like this? *Yes.* I RP as a noble and drop tens of millions into venues and the palms of people (either as surprise gifts or via crafting things on-the-fly) every week, and still horde more away, so I know what I'm talking about. These things he's teaching you will be reliable. You won't be rich overnight, but you also won't want for gil. Put 15 minutes a game session into what he's talking about and even if you don't cycle your sale price nearly as much as you should, you will slowly trickle your inventory out and do well.

Fantastic. This is true MB mastery. I will take this to heart. Bravo, Sir. Outside MB I would suggest that (until Moogletomestones destroy certain mounts) DD are still unchallenged gil-making champions. I've barely spent time in PotD compared to all the 'Necromancers' out there, but I still get a Night pegasus every other run or so. Sometimes two in one run, 28mil for 5hrs is (afaik) pretty goated.

To keep to the essential...This helped me. Thanks ❤

as a new player, would really appreciate on the DoH and DoL guides

Not only is this guide a great idea for making sustainable gil. You're indirectly offering an essential service, say you need an item and there is none on the board. You've just made someone's day providing it, it could have been the last piece they needed in a glam. Great video.

Came back after a year's hiatus and broker than a joke, so this is gonna help me a ton. +! sub, thank you for explaining stuff easily and cleanly!

this dude is the only guy ive ever seen with a max gilcap besides ashe10 with all renaiters capped also, congrats man, i love this game but im on and off to much to consider grinding money, not much time with a wifey and 2 kids anyways but im hyped for the new expansion, i started to play when endwalker launched so this will be my first real expansion that i get to enjoy day one without catching up

Okay, so put stuff for sale. Got it.

Wow I am either idiot or ur genius. I been playing since patch 2.5 and I NEVER once bother to press SORT button on marketboard. Just for that reason alone, i sub to ur channel. Thx for info!!!

Great video! I just wanted to add that market arbitrage can be really important in FFXIV. For example on my server Aether/Adamantoise, even high volume items like raid food can go for double the crossworld market rate. (Even in this raiding lull between patches, Baked Eggplant is up 20 percent over market) This creates an interesting condition where often the mats to make a crafted item are more expensive than the crafted item. You could definitely still make a lot of money doing what is described in the video, but just be careful that you don't end up losing on mats. Also if you're server is similarly inflated, a very easy way to make money is to buy on cheap servers and sell on your server. Very low time and effort investment and you can often make criminal amounts of gil on items that are dirt cheap elsewhere.

This is a really great vid, I'm not here as I need gil , I got to gil cap in 2014 I think and my playtimes about 2500 days, but my Fc are always asking me for ways to make gil and I share all good vids on discord to them. This is really clear and concise and all I hear lately is people making 80 Fcs to get subs that's not possible for everyone.

A fellow roegadyn thank you for this helpful video man!

this is so obvious advice but yet here I am, I appreciate it

I can't understate this enough but mid to low level stuff used for mass crafting is INCREDIBLY good to sell, velveteen, wool, ash wood all that stuff that's easy to mass gather and you always end up needing at unexpected times,I find selling two stacks of like 30 and five or six stacks at Max will keep a good flow going

Oh, yeah I really didn’t bother checking quantity on the market board. Genius.

Would you suggest an alt char to have access to a higher variety of retainer jobs? my main has 4 Botanist and 5 Miner, but I really struggle with mob loots. Is it worth it or should I rearrange my existing retainer jobs?

Nice guide you've got. Only my gathering and one of my crafting professions is maxed so I don't know how feasible this guide is for me personally. I mean, I'm never going to pay an extra $14 on top of my sub price for the max number of extra retainers. I have two extra retainers and that's about as far as I'm going to go with that. Still, I learned a few extra things that are helpful.

This is a great video! I'm interested to hear though your opinions on selling high value items, like treasure map mats or rare drops and mounts, should you happen to just get them. Should you craft rare mats, and is it worth it to keep a mount up worth millions if its not selling and if so should u undercut by a large amount. Thanks!

just clicked on this since I thought manchild gaming was funny name. Really glad I did though, great advice!

I'm too lazy to craft and manage retainers a lot, so crafting on a patch day to make a quick 50-100mil is the most time efficient technique I found. Also for passive income not related to the market board submarine can be a good choice for a passive 12mil per month

Selling items that are turn-ins for GC or Crafter quests goes well. Lots of people are just playing catch-up with crafter leveling and already got the money to spend

that MB sort is great

Also a little tip: for the undercut bot users, i keep lowering prices for like 2 days but significantly with a good gap. Bot keep lowering as well. I buy their stock and sell again hihi :)

Yes, please create a crafting guide!!!!

Building up a stockpile sounds useful. I usually sell materials after I craft what I want. Maybe I should keep them instead? I have a few staples I have my retainers gather materials for but maybe I should try new things. Is it worth crafting ingots instead of buying them if I get ore from retainers? I usually just buy them to save on shards and time. Combat classes are great retainers when I need a skin for leather or something else. I have 3 miners, 2 botanists and 4 combat class retainers. Should I change a miner or combat class to fisher?

would love a guide on maxing out crafting / gathering!

Well, happy to know that what I already do is exactly what I should be doing! lol

Closest I've come to a method to earn a lot of gil in no time, is Leve quests. Not really a "hidden" method, but it'll get you started with an "okay" mil or so

While I don't go out of my way to make a whole lot of gil, if you enjoy gathering, it's very lucrative. And don't go for the super rare stuff either, because it doesn't sell often. The stuff with a really high turnover rate that is used in lots of endgame crafts is really the best imo. Personally I just send my retainers out for it. But sometimes I'll go farm some stacks if I'm in the mood.

One thing i want to add is you should try to be on the lookout for items required to turn for the crafters quest lines They're usually short on supplies and people will buy them to skip crafting it themselves and depending on the level of the quest these could go from 50 to 100k a pop

Keep in mind to give the proper gear to gathering retainers, if you're using them to gather for you. At 4:30 it shows the retainer bringing back 20 Palm Syrup, but with appropriate gear that will be 50, so effectively 2,5x more items for each trip. It's pretty easy nowadays to give them good enough gear as well, like with the 6.4 scrip gear. Breakpoint for the max amount of items should be around 3938 perception for EW items. It's definitely worth the extra investment, especially if you're sending them away to gather a lot.

you don't even have to undercut by one, there is a secondary sort that puts you at the top of the list if your entry is the most recent. Just matching the cheapest price is the best way to go.

Do you have any suggestions on what kinds of things would be better to sell where the game is now between major patches and keading up to the expansion?

If someone doesn't want to pay the $2 per additional retainer, they can spend a few hours to level up an alt to the point that they can use retainers. Items can be shared by having them all in a personal FC. I have 16 retainers at no additional cost. You can also create alts on other worlds so that you have retainers in those markets. Items (those that can be equipped) can be quickly "traded" to those characters by using a mannequin which will require having an FC plot. It's worth buying a small in the long run for the workshop. The best items to craft are the shark submarine parts. They always sell for at least twice the cost of purchasing the materials off the MB if not more. You can also setup the submarines in your own FC which will take a few months before they're ready to start making gil. A single FC will bring in roughly 14M gil from all subs combined per month. This is actually the best way to acquire gil and will require an alt account if you want to go above the account limit for how many FCs you can own on a world.

I wouldn't recommend a 1 gil undercut, but a steps of gil instead. Or to pricematch, because a re-list puts you back on the top as well. The only reason why I don't suggest an exact 1 is because a lot of people (me included) avoid 1-gil undercuts and the people currently doing that are growing. Sure it still works, but you also do somewhat limit yourself than if you undercut in 5-10 gil steps. Like I say, it's minor, but it can make a difference for how much people are willing to purchase something

Do you server-hop to buy mats or do you just buy everything off your server's market ?

Dope vid

I have never been more intimidated than by a man who opens a ff14 gil making guide with "I have a 2 masters, one in business admin and one in healthcare admin" ;) Great video though!

Market flipping has become my thing lol. I tanked a dye listing yesterday lol

This is a good guide, unless you’re a newer player… wish there were more guides that focussed on those who don’t have everything maxed out.

man im trying so hard to level up all my gathering first to then be able to max out my crafters more comfortably but i have miner and botanist stuck at lv70 and i got no idea what to do now to keep up! fishing has the ocean trips but idk abt those two when leves aren't that much exp at a time. pain

There is ALWAYS money in housing items, it makes me a lot over time. Be it simple windows or items that need 1 special mat, it will sell. My first breakthrough item was the ureaus coat at 40k a sale. A lvl 1 dyable not restricted nice glam makes it available to everyone. With one material that was slightly harder to obtain made it easy to corner the market and easy to pull out if someone floods.

I can tell whether ones is a well educated or not from ones' tone of speaking. You have my respect sir.

The nice thing about undercutting bots is you can sometimes bait them into selling super low as long as you get the timing right, then you can grab the items yourself for almost nothing. Not worth it most of the time but very good on rare stuff.

Damn you, giving away my secrets like that. Also yes, I agree, there definitely are people using bots to undercut you. I've tested this a million times and it's just impossible for them to update the price so fast. Sad, but I'll take this over anti cheat and DRMs that will destroy the modding scene (even though I personally use 0 mods myself, I like the videos where they redo limit breaks and abilities with custom effects. Also bards macros)

I was wondering if there were bots in the marketboard . Now I know

Im just doing retainer ventures set the price mid and only lower them once my stores are full

I stopped after making 350 million gil. There wasn't much point to continue. I respect your dedication but it also puzzles me :D

also mods like public market board save you so much time looking for lower prices :3 if ur into mods that is. its doable with out it just takes more time to check servers for cheap prices

Paying real life money for more retainers to make more gil is like buying gil, lol. But the upside of that system is that because bots can't post "infinite items" it forces people to pick and choose what to sell. So for new players, there's almost always gaps in the market that need filling. Sometimes single patch day events can be good. I made about 300 million in the first week of the patch that introduced the Shirogane housing ward. New housing wards equal = furniture sales go up up up! I also had paid for 8 retainers during that month, and basically spend that first week at the market board updating prices, adding more items, and just watching things fly off the shelves. Meanwhile my friends were raiding and doing the MSQ, lol. But if you enjoy crafting -- you'll always come ahead. Which leads me to my final point about undercutting at a loss. People who craft for fun can always undercut at a loss, because they're not trying to min/max profit. They inherently enjoy the process, so if they make 3 billion last expansion, and come into the new one just making shit and dicking around. They can have really interesting affects on the market. Furthermore, yes, time in the market is everything. For the new people coming in and wondering how older players have gobs of gil? Remember, some people have been playing this game religiously for almost 10 years. Can you imagine how much gil someone who's played for 10 years would have? AND, it gets a lot easier to save money over time. A new player looks at the game and sees "100 pets, 1,000 outfits, hair unlocks, dyes, STUFF STUFF STUFF!" So to catch up, and buy all the cool glamours and fashion shit they want will cost a small fortune up front. But once you've more established and have what you want. IT's liks all of your profit goes straight into savings. When there's nothing left to buy, it all adds up! And when there's nothing left to buy -- undercutting is a fun way to burn money to piss off salty people who private message you and call you names, lol You gonna be rude to me for no reason? I hope you enjoy me crashing your market for 6 months for fun. They'll run out of money long, long before an ancient gil baron would.

One important factor, never ever take the current price of an item as its average. Always check the history because a lot of high priced low amount items have the price hiked up and it will crash back to normal price quite fast. This is especially important if you are flip selling.

for free retainers its still 2 max right?

Made it to 200+ mil just farming the hell out of cookies during ShB and doing gathering off-marketboard for my crafter friends, especially tomestones. Biggest way I've ever made gil though? Gposes, say what you will but the social gil-making scene is just another level entirely so if you have the skills, it may be worth looking into in the down time.

Not me smiling cause of the Name Egg Chen. Time to go take down Lo pan

That Chapelle cameo about took me out 😂

Dont you need a lot of pre-existing gil to max your crafters and gatherers

Hey i know u. I see u in famfrit during my crackhead moments in limsa

I've been making bank farming night club glam contests. Since ive started doing it ive made away least 60 mil or so from it. Learned to do macro transforms and stuff to stand out, and it's more fun then slaving on mb. I dont really craft or gather have 2 retainers sitting at 65 mil atm. The method in this video will work, but posting more real money for retainers sucked so I accepted being less rich

Teach a man to Fish and he will eat for a lifetime.

Step one...buy Gil. Step 2. Pray. Rinse repeat

uhm just like having different kinds of seafood not just tilapia in the meat market all the time. For example people still leave this small gap : every sells at stacks of 11 33 99 or high numbers totaling to five or six digit buys… for example allagan leather 3000 each but everyone is selling in 99 … i just want like six pieces …so thts when u tank

And here I was stuck selling coke, cobalt ore and darksteel like a backstreet drug dealer... time to go for those armor pieces

One thing I'd add : Learn to use Teamcraft, it's essential.

That Dave Chappelle edit was personal :(

Me stockpiling expensive dyes for when two dye channels comes out in 7.0. Dye demand spike incoming

That's a lot of work. Just pop level 80 Zonures and solo the overworld stuff with Blue. The glam materials sell for a lot and you can make millions in a few hours. Alternatively, you can farm easy trials for materials. Tsukuyomi material sells for 400k and can be killed by two people. A shell FC owner can make passive 500k/day on average just from collecting voyage results. There are a lot more other ways of making huge amounts of gil without checking the market very often. TBH Gil does not have a lot of use in the game so it's better to make it passively and just buy whatever you need whenever you need it.

I know this dude - he has an army of 48 alt chars x 9 retainers. Dude is mentally insane. Just with levequest he makes 3m each day - 3 chars per day with max allowances. Plus all the loot from all those retainers.

'I have a double masters' Yeah lovely mate, who doesn't these days... 'I have max gil' Holy shit this guys a pro!!! 😲

So where do I put the credit card

r u the same guy in crystalline conflict ranked pvp a few days ago

Great vid! Tho I firmly believe anyone undercutting by 1 gil should be jailed for 24hrs

One problem: depends on your server

I have ruined the Thanalan Soil market on Jenova and it has left me destitute. Remember to diversify if you are undercutting kiddos!

Alternate title: "An MBA Shows You How to Destabilize the Allagan SSD Market."

Can we stop the "opportunity cost" with housing irl though? Please and thank you lol Driving up markets, by limiting supply to force inflation, should be illegal imo. Better regulation, thanks. We can have this in a proper mixed economy ♡ ok, I'm off my soapbox now lol

just sent this to my husband, wish me luck

That's not max retainers 😜 You can have a tenth retainer if you pay for the companion app (that also adds a second chocobo saddlebag)

i play on dynamis.... most items sell once maybe twice a month in the 0 quantity category :(

1) find a small fc with a house 2) ask if they have subs 3) if no offer to join 4) ask to have access to the subs 5) spend about 2 months leveling and crafting subs 6) make about 1 mil gil profit/week from salvage.

come on man dont spill the beans xD I did this for years but now with 400 mill I dont see the point even after maxing my crafting gear with materia it never goes down too much and there arent that many things to burn gil outside of a house and after a year of failing the lottery makes me not have any reason to use it god I hate that I cant have a house even after so long

Buying gold is better than buying retainers ❤

You can make 500k an hour in eureka box farms without market

Damn max gil rip me