FFXIV vs WoW: A Completely Different Experience 

There is a ton of stuff that didn't make it into the video. I like WoWs' approach to gearing, WoWs PVP, I think the work orders system is really cool, timewalking is an interesting concept, and the classes all feel unique. I plan on making a follow-up, so I hope you guys like the video.

In ffxiv, stacks used to be introduced in a certain major msq raid way deep into the story. It was a meme that the stack would hit a sprout and they would run to a corner and die. I’m glad they updated it to show up much earlier 😅😅

To be fair, there's a lot of content that involves world exploring outside the MSQ on FF14. Treasure maps, side quests, gathering, fishing, hunts, fates, blue mage, etx.

I play both for different reasons. I would absolutely kill for the wow transmog system in FF though. Just imagine the glamour potential if you had unlimited slots.

I tried playing WOW for the first time last year, as a new player I was struggling a bit but did enjoy the game, until...Until I queued up for a dungeon, said it was my first time got verbally abused, told to go kms and kicked out of the party. Few weeks ago I tried playing FF14, went into my first dungeon, told people I was new to the game(plus have the sprout icon), got encouraged and taught about the dungeon mechanics and later at the end my party members emote hugged me before leaving and left me recommendations. So yeah, FF14 is much better at least from personal experience.

I just couldn't get into any MMO including WoW and then I heard the hype of FF14 and hopped on it and cannot stop playing it! I'm currently in stormblood obsessed with the story and playing as black mage. Trying to work on playing as tank(dark knight) and healer(AST)

The transmog system is a good system for glam and I feel FF didn't expect people to go crazy for glam. I will say one thing about FF is that you can find hints to future game systems when they add something trivial. Most recent example is adventure plates in dungeons. A transmog system is getting closer to possible for FF. I say this because glamour plates can store outfits that you don't even own the physical pieces for, and also they've added a clothing preview system in the Inn rooms. Noticing stuff like this gets me excited because it's FF's way of actively testing systems for something bigger.

one of my most rewarding and favorite experiences from ffxiv was guiding 3 sprouts through the great gubal library tbh. it was just a normal roulette for me, but i stayed for almost an hour and gently explained all the mechanics and felt great afterwards. i love getting sprouts in roulettes.

Just finding your channel. Great edits. Great video!

In reference to your point about traversal: FFXIV also has slower travel methods - the porters of various kinds - that do try to show off the given zone; It has, however, been less prevelant lately, likely due to the dev team's commitment to not wasting the player's time.

Blizzard has, for whatever reason, decided that their game is going to be all about raiding, raiding, and more raiding. Even in Classic they've gone out of their way to facilitate raid logging as much as possible while completely neglecting the experience on the way to the endgame.

Well done Ian! Enjoyed this a lot!

I just recently returned to wow and have been trying to play chromie through all the expansions or at least the ones with "storylines" and you said it perfectly, "They have some of the best storytelling in all of rpgs and mmos, WHEN YOU CAN FIND IT". omg it's so hard to find the actual storyline quests with cutscenes and voice acting.

I tried Wow, and you are right, New players are not looked upon well. I had 8 people rage quit in a normal dungeon. One thing goes wrong, people have a tanty and leave. In FF14 the party dusts itself off and tries again.

I had the same experience with WoW. I was new and never played WoW and I told the party because i felt like it was the right thing to do and everyone just left and that happened twice. Then I didn't told my new party that I was new and wiped and everyone just quit and I quit the game.

As someone who played and raided in WoW for years my biggest upset when playing Final Fantasy 14 was when they practically gave me a mount. And then let me fly the damned thing later, practically free. I am just sitting there like "But wait, you are supposed to take all my money, make me grind some useless faction for weeks, you are doing this all wrong!"

FF does utilize the outter space for specifically side quests and usually relic weapons. We do have the world bosses, as boss fates, but they are not the same for sure. Though I still feel better barely killing Odin a level 50 content due to the mandatory level sync, then 1 shotting the Sha of Anger for having a 1% chance to get the dragon in pandaria with my overgeared peers. Further, I would argue that WoW sometimes has better music. But the sheer amount of precision that ff devs mastered to sync the fights with the music is just crazy... e.g.: Bahamut in the coils, the choir repeats until you reach the level percentage needed for the next phase, where it makes it cool for the phase shift to start the singing. In UWU, when you kill garuda there is a few moment of silence, regardless of what time of the instance you are in, and there is the omnious music when ifrit spawns. I literally use my anti knockback ability when the music changes XD its so well synced.

coming from a ffxiv player i was keen to try out dragonflight but the needing addons to play part was an annoying barrier to entry so i didnt too lazy to figure that shit out just to play

I think FFXIV is probably the better game for new players and especially if you’re bringing in friends, the game is just so much more accessible. The learning curve for a new player starting WoW is absolutely daunting and they provide you no guidance for almost any of it.

I wanna try WoW so bad but idk where to start. And having to download addons is a bit of a turn off. Like which ones do I get? What’s better? Idk I just wanna play it.

What a bold title. WoW does a lot of things right, but I got burned out by it and don't trust them as a company anymore. I quit before SL for FFXIV and haven't looked back. Honestly I didn't think it would happen, but I really don't miss WoW. I wish all the best for Dragonflight, but Azeroth is just no longer my home nor is Blizz my company.

Man this video is amazing! I started playing WoW at Shadowlands 9.1 and it was chaotic understanding how the game worked, so I decided to try TBC Classic and it was a better experience being a new player overall, I leveled all the way up to 70, I understood my class and had fun, then 9.2 came in Shadowlands, Zereth Mortis and Sepulcher of the First Ones, I returned to retail and was able to clear the three raids, it felt good, now we are in Dragonflight and it's good but kinda feels the same all over again, just cleared Vault of the Incarnates (LFR and Normal) and what a headache raiding is sometimes, might try FF thanks a lot

I reacently started back in WOW because a long time friend was playing and was really enjoying it and asked me to come back...game is in a really good place as a whole. I get your point of the new player exp not being super structured, but it does really allow for people to play how they would like to and keep you off any strict story while leaving the stories available to let someone see them if they want. I have also not found most players in the leveling process to be rude or difficult(also struggling as to how you died in an early dungeon) if there is a tank and healer it takes real effort to get yourself killed. I know the playerbase in FF is much more helpful and inviting to new players and old as a rule from my own experience(I have dabbled in FF) but getting plugged in socially was a main part of FF and in WOW it never really was this is probably the single biggest fault of WOW as a whole that I could point out. There are tons that both games could learn from one another and I agree that FF is a more complete game right now from friends streaming it and talking to me about it and playing both. Saying FF is objectivly better looking is a subjective observation yes Blizz should rebuild the engine as they have done(see classic) but even without it being rebuilt they both run smoothly and the lag of zones I have seen in both it is disingenuous to say it is only WOW that this happens in. The need for addons is a bit sticky as a whole since I personally don't use them and am fine in almost any setting except the extremely competative raids I doubt FF is any different as sweaty players are going to want min/max out of the whole group. I apperciate your wrap up as you certainly gave reasonable credence to both games and I would agree it is feasting time for MMO players as a whole.

Amazing video!! Well said, I couldn’t say it any better myself!

Good to see someone actually highlighting positives of both games without pitting the players against one another.

One thing i like about BDO is fact there is no fast travel(technically is, but in offline mode). It gives world scale, if you cant instantly move from corner to corner. On other hand, its time consuming. Time that could be spend doing something else than ride the horse or sail the boat. Actual gameplay. World in XIV is small because of it, but you get where you want quickly without feeling like wasting time to get there. Its just different approach that better suits XIVs casual playstyle.

my issue with ff14 is how long it takes me to get to current content. Getting thru the base game is a drag coming from other MMOs that are inherently harder (at the start at least) I found myself not excited to get on and play which is unfortunate, I love the visuals of FF and armor/class design.

Awesome video dude, I hope you take off

Good take my man! 👌 def got a sub

I think a huge reason that the world of FFXIV is what it's because it's on console as well. It started out a little after YoshiP took over having to be on ps3 as well as pc. So alot of stuff with zones are probably relics of the ps3 support era concessions to make it work for ps3 players. Now a days it's still supported on Ps4 so it isn't even caught up to the latest consoles capability as well. It would be interesting to see if they could even get WoW on a console and if they do how they would handle the world. But I have to imagine a console version of WoW would have to make some concessions for the world to be handled by the consoles.

Amazing analysis! Very well done video. I play both at the moment, but I still prefer FF14 atm mostly because I'm mostly a solo player and WoW can be punishing for a solo player on it's current state while FF14 feels easier and relaxing to do any form of content.

I started WoW in 2007 like you... played all the way through to the end of BfA (which I actually enjoyed) but quit the game in January 2021. I've played FFXIV since around May of 2021 when I gave it a try - I've "quit" 3 times but I'm back playing now and absolutely loving it! Haven't played retail WoW in 2 years.

I was a WOW player since the very beginning, but then I quit before Death Wing expansion.... I went back to WOW like 2 months ago as a new player (My old account was lost), I tried the "Dungeon Finder" when I was like lv 15 or so, they match me with some lv 60 players (I don't understand why), we wipe at the first boss, I was a WLK, I have no idea what am I doing, I got killed by almost 1 hit or some mechanics and then I have to leave the party.... Why would I can join a party or a lv 60 dungeon (I don't know that dungeon, maybe new or remake, definitely not any dungeon I've been played before) when I was only lv 15? I still don't know how it works.....

One of the things that isn't mentioned in this video in relation to battles in XIV vs. battles in WoW and to use Hephaistos as the example since he's used in the video: The bird and serpent dragon mechanics have *sounds* that help enhance the play. You can *hear* the phoenix screech as it's summoned, giving you an increased warning time to move that you don't get from the visual alerts alone. You can *hear* the dragon roar, giving you reinforcement to your reaction time because you both see and hear the attack. And that has made the game extremely friendly towards people with limited visual ability (barring certain moments and EXes in current content). There was a presentation from Lunarcon last year talking about it and played sound files from various things and my brain was able to identify pretty much all of them immediately and since I was playing XIV at the time I was watching the video, I reacted in game like as if I was in the fights (it was a bit silly to be just chilling and then suddenly juke right to anyone who may have come across me). WoW.... it's been a while since I've played but I don't remember *any* sounds from it. The only thing I can clearly remember are DBM tells. "Run away little girl!" still sounds exactly like the DBM default voice in my head. The loud gongs of warnings of incoming abilities that aren't "run away little girl!" levels of dangerous but still need to be reacted to. And that was because I was forced into getting the add-on in order to continue playing the game past a certain point in the game's life cycle once they started factoring it into their game design. If they designed fights to be dealt with without add-ons, it'd be a massive boon to the game.

As for world traversal, I agree, but it’s a double edge sword either way you look at it. Wow is and feels massive, but it’s world travel is a major slog. Many players I see hate how long it takes to get somewhere. FFXIV while it’s very teleport heavy, it makes it feel smaller for sure, but then again it doesn’t take ages to get somewhere Pros and cons and I dunno which I’d prefer honestly.

Coming from someone who played wow for my whole life and just recently got into final fantasy 14, and is struggling between picking one. This video is AMAZING!!! So informative thank you

Which would you recommend to someone looking for a main MMO. Wow or FFXIV?

The real winner is definitely the player… Just look at Nophica😮‍💨 thanks for another great video!!

I haven't played ffxiv but I'm going to now that it's on my main console, I have played just about every ff game going all the way back to the Super Nintendo and even played most of the spin offs like Tactics/Dissidia/Crisis Core, etc.. the problem is, I just genuinely prefer to game on a console-> controllers make me feel more engaged with my games-> not to mention it's more comfortable, I grew up on Nintendo so I like my controllers, its second nature for me and controllers are native to consoles so wonky controlls are never a problem (curse you steam controller configuration! 🤬), that being said, ffxiv just dropped on Xbox X and I'm pretty stoked to check it out. Thanks for the good video man!

Love the shirt during the intro!🤘 I also couldn't agree more about WoW's new player/leveling state right now. I actually think it feels worse as a veteran because you know about the content and can see how poorly it's being treated. The chrome time and new island experience makes the game feel very disconnected from itself.

When I played wow, I used to collect all the different 'teleport to this location' items I could find. I literally had a bag full of them so I could go anywhere in the world without having to fly more than a zone or two. So I definitely loved the teleport system in FF from a subjective standpoint. In regard to 'people holed up in cities' I don't fully agree with that sentiment - the devs spread out content throughout so many zones. Even the holiday events take turns from city to city. One of the things I liked more about FF than WoW was how I often ended up going back to old zones for MSQ, alt jobs, and so many other pieces of content. Gathering, Hunts, Tribal Quests. Or even just helping out a friend new to the game. I can't say I got that as much in WoW, especially without the ability to stay on one character and change to a class closer to the correct level (or syncing any Duty content). I specifically remember bemoaning how old WoW zones and old dungeons got neglected once they were no longer 'current' and people had no desire to do them. Now, there are definitely people who spend a lot of time in the cities but I don't think it's because they 'have no reason to leave'. Rather, these are the people who are looking to advertise their FC or services to other players. Performers, crafters. People looking to RP or show off their glam. They're mostly there because they want to be there. The ones who don't fall into those categories are likely people in the middle of leveling a job, doing quests or taking advantage of the sanctuary status of the city while taking a break. Don't get me wrong, I agree with most everything in this video, and especially with the idea that players benefit when both games do more to compete. I don't think FF is perfect by any stretch. I just happen to like the design around the ability to teleport at will without having to dedicate a full bag to it. And as a person who doesn't get into RP or non-party, non-guild interactions that much, I've been blown away by the in-city interactions in FF with performers and the RP community publicly represented by Limsa degenerates.

I couldn't hop on ff14 at the start so i was not going to kill myself with that stat grind, despite how beautiful the graphics and fluid battles are. Can't do it man

This finally helped me pick Guild Wars as my main MMO, thanks!

Love the quality of the video. One thing random I would say is that light in the back is distractingly bright.

You’re gonna go far. Sub’d

I really do wish FF had more of an open world. Hunts are fun but very time specific. You see basically no one doing anything in most zones apart from sometimes 1-2 people doing fates and gatherers getting nodes. This is moreso noticeable a few months after an expansion releases and i do wonder what new players think seeing most zones empty and everyone else just hanging in the 5 " main " cities. (Limsa, Uldah, Gridania, Radz, Sharl) maybe the gold saucer & housing. But i'm also not sure what they could do to change this, i know theres the Hunt Board which gives dailies and such but the rewards once you've got them are lackluster, and they are extremely easy to get just arent worth doing them for.

I have played both. FFXIV is my main game. I dabble in WoW. But 14 has spoiled me. I'm the main character in every way, its not IF i get gear but when, and yes i feel epic killing bosses. Good video.

For me it was warframe Started playing it in I think 2015? and it consumed my life, played it every chance I could when I wasn't doing school/college stuff But in the wake of the pandemic and having to focus more on college, as well as the devs over at DE making choices that I didn't really like, I played it less and less until I had gone over a month without playing it once, deciding that "yeah I think I'm out" Then a friend, one that had been playing warframe with me for years, showed me FFXIV, something he also swapped to and never looked back. I started on the old free trial to level 35 and I was in love within days, something about it just hooked me like nothing else had, plus female au ra was one of the incentives my friend gave me to play, love her so much Still playing it daily, don't plan to ever stop

Dude 😂 your delivery during your intro was great....love at first sight ,not with her, but with the game....lol. And the you took her raiding spot lol.😅

I believe the words to describe this video are: "True and Real". Honestly, it's rare I wholly agree with someone pitting WoW against XIV, but as someone who also plays both, for the same reasons, you hit the nail on the head. WoW needs to do better with new players. I remember starting an alt not to long ago, and just laughing to myself. Like I knew what to do because I've done it before, but someone fresh would be completely lost. One the other hand, I'd love for XIV to embrace their more raid focused players. It always feels like when they give us a new Ult or tier, it's like a step parent kind of just trying to appease the kid lol tl;dr: Based video. 10/10

Just so you know ffxiv does have 48 and 1 56 man raid so it does have large scale raids as well.

The #1 idea I believe most FF players want SE to copy off WoW is the collections tab and specifically the transmog appearance system. Not having to hold onto gear for glamour would be amazing and save so much inventory space for marketboard domination instead

I want to play both so badly but I'm afraid that I can't manage such thing within my schedule. But seeing how FF seems to have these "spaces" between patches and expansions, and seeing how other people can make it, I think it might be possible.

I just have one question: If WoW makes so much better use of its world, why is the shroud always populated while Kalimdor zones are always completely empty? I've heard this argument before and it just doesn't compute for me. I would /who in WoW while leveling and I would literally be the only person in the zone. I've never commented in Shout and not had a half dozen people answer in FF14.

In that intro you just sounded like Jack Black trynna hype up his fellow absolute legends. In other words... it was perfect.

The call-out on Koikatsu Party LMAO

I've just started playing wow cause I kinda got burnt out with ffxiv and it's questing, I feel like every time I play ffxiv im just watching endless cutscenes, some are good, most I don't care about, not shitting on the game, but right now wow is a breath of fresh air with it's questing and how I actually get to go and play rather than just talk to the same NPC's over and over with a random dungeon thrown in there

I wanna watch but also don’t wanna ruin the game for myself …. The struggle 😅

When the intro makes you grab a sword.

Is it worth playing on ps5? Or is keyboard and mouse only worth it?

with Dragonflight, I think both games can comfortably be played side by side since FF has a lot of downtime between patches (which I think is a good thing)

What I hated about WoW is how they made all of their previous content pretty much irrelevant. When I still played Wow, you can literally level yourself to the entry point of the current expansion through Dungeon Finder without even leaving the capitol city. I haven't played since BofA and haven't picked the game up since. I've played a lot of MMOs, including Guild Wars, Blade & Soul, BDO and FFXIV. The only game that managed to keep my attention was FFXIV, and I haven't found an MMO with a better story than this. I'd also say that FFXIV has a much better community than WoW. I'd also argue that the quality of the of the WoW community is so many leagues below FFXIV's that they're sub-morlock level.

criterion dungeons?

I'm beginning to see a pattern with some people in regards to the FF14 vs WoW arguement... and that somehow Koikatsu Party ALWAYS gets mentioned XD

I definitely appreciate this vid. I will say this though, the overall storytelling in WoW is not good. Its actually very poor. What was good was the setting they built up ages ago, and occasional world/zone storytelling that builds upon it in a productive way throughout each expac. But the actually story of WoW is kinda lazy a best, and repulsive at worst. Especially since Blizz decided to relapse into Good Race / Evil Race tropes since Cata. Which they have, and its very problematic on certain levels that they did. With the Alliance being written as increasingly pure, and the Horde increasingly a motiveless plot device. And I say this as a person who mains Horde, but had Loremastered twice up through 9.1. Once on each faction. Because I did TRY. But ... honestly. Trying to be a Horde main AND story/world invested became so difficult I became jaded. Nearly 10 years of being told you're the villain of your own story, and should be ashamed, by the very writers who made you villain will do that.

PC master race has slipped lately

man, this video was PERFECT

Still hoping for a WoW crossover event in FFXIV. I’ve never played WoW so I don’t have an attachment to it, but sill think it be really cool to see since a lot of XIV took inspiration from WoW, thus brining things full circle.

Damn bro, that title is clickbaity as heck, but I liked the video, well done.

FFXIV is crazy good!

Im new to wow, and i really love it, but doing dungeons is such a burden, i cant go up m+10 because no one accepts randoms, im forced to wait for my guild mates, and the stress is real in the process of dungeon, overlaping mechanics when I cant see shit unlesd addon tells me to push the button and move, idk its very weird but i love the game.

The only thing holding me back from switching to ffxiv is the lack of a mythic+ style game mode. id love to raid and stuff, but keeping a schedule with a guild and using voice chat prohibits me from raiding successfully

I tried to return to wow for Shadowlands expansion, and was instantly turned off by the game the moment I tried running dungeons and the toxic behavior in there. FFXIV is my forever home these days. Like you said, I value my time.

I played wow years ago on original BC as a rogue and no one wanted me on their raid team as rogues were a "Bad raid class" at that time, then some years later I played FF14 in 2014 and saw I could be anything, anytime. Cut to the present and I hold the rank of 4th highest achievement score on my server. (I never looked back and the blizzard crisis has just deepened my resolve on that choice).

funnily enough as a mythic raider in WoW i never leave the cities at all none of my fellow raiders do either we just get teleported there been this way since MoP for my guild

I thought "this is a great video, I should subscribe!" but then I realized "oh...I am already subscribed.."

I do agree with some things in the video but you really lost me at the raid discussion. Judging from the footage you did only normal vault. While I do appreciate the cinematic feel of FF14's fights, there is something to be said when you do the higher difficulties in WoW that the lower difficulties sorely miss. I'm currently going for cutting edge this tier and there are some very enjoyable fights this tier when you look at it from that scope of difficulty. Kurog is specifically one of those fights and I'd like to also take this moment to point out that kurog as well as a few fights in recent tiers do have semblances of ff14 design with how they play out and what they want you to do. Painsmith from last expansion is a good example of this if you want to look back an expansion. Concerning difficulty again, normal is extremely accessible which I think is overall a good thing with what a lot of the player base has been wanting after what shadowlands did with pushing raid difficulty. Heroic wise the final boss is actually one of the harder ahead of the curve bosses in awhile(especially first tier) and I think thats a good thing for those that raid at that level to accomplish. I'd also like to say that mechanics have been streamlined to an extent in WoW and they generally use similar graphics at this point. Swirls are even used differently based on how you want to use said swirl. I think this largely goes unnoticed as the majority does not play stockui however. That being said this raid is extremely accessible and the fights themselves are generally quite apparent on what you need to do and if there is a question WoW uses a dungeon journal system while ff14 does not as ff14 favors its puzzles. Very hard to accurately compare the two with which one does it better... because even ff14 when its teaching you its markers makes the mistake of still not updating their HW markers when those have little to no use once you reach the modern game(unless you do something like synced coils). The same could be said with WoW with its older dungeons mechanics not using updated markers as well. Overall I prefer WoW for forever grind content and I treat FF14 as my downtime mmo. Its not that I necessarily enjoy WoW more(I do gameplay wise tbh but thats a small part of the game in some cases) but that repeatable content in WoW is just far more enjoyable. When EW released there was immense downtime if you were a WoW player if you didn't like SL so I experienced an expansion launch with EW(I started a little after SHB started). While the story was great, the music is always bangin, the mid content depending on your own preference was very lacking in some ways. I can only repeat an extreme so many times. Finally the first raid tier came out and while that was enjoyable there are some issues with how FF14 treats its gearing with how the base part of the game is designed. A huge complaint in the more grindy part of the ff14 community is that tomestone caps and raid lockouts do not really favor letting you gear multiple jobs despite you being able to change your job at will as a selling point. Obviously there is crafted gear you can pentameld and just go into a raid that way but still you are limited by raid lockouts. This effectively forces you to make alt characters if you want to experiment with other roles. Its essentially the same as WoW at that point but WoW forces you to make a new character instead of you having one ff14 character that cant do content on multiple roles if you want to chase bis in a timely manner. My overall suggestion for this is role lockouts or role tomestones to allow for more experimentation with the game. I'd also argue it would increase player retention and pf population. I also was almost never excited about receiving loot in ff14. I think the most excited I got was replacing my weapons during the tier but everything else felt like a glorified stat stick. Largely this is because ff14 gearing is not as expansive in comparison to what WoW offers now especially with the new crafted system and sparks operating as bad luck protection. I say this even ignoring things like trinkets or tier sets and what not that add another carrot on the stick and also give you a huge dopamine rush when you acquire your better trinkets. Anyway, if I went deeper into the discussion this comment would be even longer and I don't necessarily want to burden you with that. Overall for ME I prefer the gameplay and repeatable content in WoW over ff14, but ff14 has a certain magic going for it that I deeply appreciate and will always be aware of after having tried it out. If anything I'm happy I have two mmo's to play now, the biggest issue for me is when patch cycles drop around the same time because CE takes priority for me in WoW, but it'd be really nice to pf the new raid tier as early as possible before pf quality drops off a cliff after the first month of the tier being out(snakes 1 lol). For future videos exploring this topic I highly recommend checking out what some end game focused ff14 players are worried about in coming patches/expansions. Oddly enough it mirrors a lot of the same worries that have happened during WoWs evolution over the last 18 years. Primarily id def look into the gearing issues I brought up earlier, the 2 min meta, networking issues and squares ignoring of said issues(alexander lol), healer simplification, and class homogenization. Theres a lot to be "worried" about tbh but I know for me at least I'll probably still enjoy the story so thats something lol. A big thing I noticed when I came over to ff14 after bfa leaving a bad taste in my mouth and shadowlands beta making me worried is that initial impressions of ff14 can be quite good(after ARR) but as you delve deeper and deeper into the game some of its issues start to really appear depending on how deep into the game you get. That can honestly be said for any video game tbh but its interesting as I've watched my views change over the last 3 years of me playing it and I still don't truly feel that I've digested my full feelings on the game to leave a critical review.

What with you until you said wow has one do the best stories ? I’m sorry I played about 4 mmos and a lot of rpgs IT DOES NOT HAVE A GREAT story the story is MEH actually .. and let’s be REAL honest only thing WOW has on FF14 nowadays is PVP and that’s it folks lol

Since when does wow not use party finder? You also need to physically enter every dungeon entrance the first time

I completely agree that the early leveling experience in wow is quite frankly bad, I hope we see a more vanilla esc leveling revamp honestly while not being necessarily a super long journey but enough to make it memorable and insentivises players to form a group or party like in vanilla and honestly my favorite part of vanilla Another thing I would love to see maybe during a world revamp is for them to weave the world and stories old and new together to make the world and past expansions seem more...I don't know, together like one big cohesive experience

simple put i think ffxiv is more new player and casual freindly while wow isnt .however adding m+ to ffxiv will only breed toxicity(most toxic sistem ever made) and will harm the overall community over time i think ffxiv has enough hardcore content .

Looked I've played wow for 7 years and ff xiv for 2 now and I think I speak for most of the ff community when I say there is no us vs them. We want both games to do great and be successful 🙂

You forgot how wow is handing out flying and allied races now in wow but to get flying in ff14 you had to look for the aether currents in each map to be able to flying that area

15:36 OMG player housing is the most savage thing content in FF14 !!

yes, WoW has a much much bigger world, since they also have (almost) no loading screens in between. But honestly, every time i play WoW the world is just....empty. There is absolutely nothing, so I wonder what to "explore" here. The terrain is most of the time also just super linear and empty, it's mostly just trees and a big, empty mountain background. They should add WAY more stuff, then yes, it might feel lively at some point. At this time the flying and getting to places just feels like a waste of play time to me But i do wish FF14 would update their glamour system, they don't have to copy WoW's thing but at least in some sort make it a catalogue of obtained glamour pieces.

I dont know, I'd say FFXIV deserves the win. Better story, better game design and better community. Plus the ability to take breaks is huge both for adult life and playing other games.

to me FF wins but I really miss transmog system from WoW. I've just been burned to many times with WoW after BFA Shadowlands seemed pretty good then it went down the shitter so I'm waiting to see if they really learn or fall on their faces again. Great video and I'm happy your enjoying dragonflight and I'm hoping WoW dose improve.

You know, as a long time WoW player, who stopped during Shadowlands, I would suggest not having something like Mythic Plus in 14. I've hated what this game mode has done to dungeon designs and the community in general.

Been playing 14 since 2013 and with it being my 10th year into the game, I still have no regrets. I'm glad new people are getting into 14 at all times

I like wow in class design, mythic plus dungeon, and raiding.. love boss design. And I try ff14.. i got sleepy after play couple hours.. :( But i dont like both subscription service, lol. That make me anxiety because it feel must play the game, since Subscription is expensive in my currency :(

It's not a proper alliance raid without someone in a frog suit.

Picked up WoW very recently while my friend's group waits on FF14 to release more story and content. I play Scholar in FF14 so i went in deciding to grab Druid till i could go Preservation Evoker. The new player stuff is lacking and the story is a mess. But it wasn't too hard for me to pick up on everything in the game. Then my friend asked me if i wanted to go for KSM for Dragonflight season 1. Only just finished leveling my evoker to 70 at that point when they decided to throw me into the fire that is M+. I have not savage raided on FF14 (Not for lack of trying mind. Just lacking enough static members willing to do so) So mythic+'s 5 man dungeons were thankfully something i could actually gather a group for and go into. That was probably the most stressful 2 week (we had 4 weeks total to do it but...) healer trial by fire i have ever experienced in an MMO. and has gotten me excited for Season 2. Doesn't help that Dragonflight is thematically a huge interest to me. and can't wait to continue the Dracthyr storyline. FF14 will still be my favorite MMO. But having friends to enjoy WoW with me. makes it a good time as well. I have officially become a fan of WoW as well as 14 and both fill that need the other doesn't. Esuna is also alot less punishing of a cleanse than Naturalize if you hit the wrong target. FF14 is just like "Oppsies. wrong target ahh well one sec let me fix that". WoW is "OH s*** wrong target. lets hope that debuff i failed to hit isn't going to be fatal in the next 8 seconds."

Asmongold in the video 😮, waiting for the impending bald one’s reaction.

FFXIV went from MMORPG to RPGMMO. WoW went from MMORPG to ESRPG. I think that Blizzard trying to push players to the endgame too fast just so that they can compete in eSports gutted the game. I mean, they do try to make a story, but the vast majority of WoW's players have a "GOGOGOGOGO" mentality and skip the story as fast as possible just to be max level and Mythic+ / Raid / PvP, instead of just enjoying the game world.

been playing 14 for 5 months now once i reaches end of heavensward they convinced me to get endwalker

Wait the war was still going on?

i agree with mostly everything but i think ur smoking crack if u think wows animations are that bad compared to ff14

A bold title, I respect that, and some of your points are very good! I just wish the FFXIV community appreciated the games world building and lore as much as WoW's community does for their MMO. haha

My first MMO was Everquest. Yes, I feel old -_-

It's kinda funny because of the use of cactbot in FFXIV similar to weak auras and dbm